sage
-b. You should always run make to build sage unless you are prepared
for
exactly the kind of breakage that you got.
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:20:42 PM UTC-4, kcrisman wrote:
apparently the new branch was based off 6.1.1, not 6.2.beta4? But how
do
I control
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:03:42 PM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote:
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:01:41 AM UTC-4, kcrisman wrote:
1) sage -dev create-ticket
2) sage -dev checkout ticket abc
3) Futz around with code
4) sage -dev commit
5) Oops, I realize I'm still based on the previous
I'm getting more used to sage -dev and/or git. But weird things can
happen. Tonight, on Mac OS X 10.7:
0) I was already at the 6.2.beta4 develop branch.
1) Checked out a ticket and sage -b and sage -docbuild reference html
(presumably branch changed to ticket/9321 since that is there)
2) Used
Not directly about math, but definitely relevant to the open source
community... and several Sage fans have been commenting on this...
Where did you see the comments? They are not on the link you provided.
On social media.
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it's actually fine? (I do assume it's not easy on the Chrome OS.)
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I have at least twice had completely innocent people inadvertently
wipe my developer mode'd laptops... My chromebooks are now all just
stock, and I use Sage this way:
http://symmetricblog.wordpress.com/2013/11/26/chromebook/
Yeah, I really liked Bret's post there too!
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Not directly about math, but definitely relevant to the open source
community... and several Sage fans have been commenting on this...
http://reproducibility.cs.arizona.edu/
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On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 10:08:51 PM UTC-4, kcrisman wrote:
Not directly about math, but definitely relevant to the open source
community... and several Sage fans have been commenting on this...
http://reproducibility.cs.arizona.edu/
The technical report's long appendix of anecdotes
Thanks. This is a woefully old document that used to be very useful... and
still some parts are, though others are very behind the times.
On Monday, March 17, 2014 4:34:03 PM UTC-4, David Petretta wrote:
I forget tho tell that it's in the Sage Constructions documentation
The easiest way to
On Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:53:53 PM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote:
We restored the prereq tests, so that is probably the change. You can set
SAGE_PORT=yes and see how far you get...
Right, Anne set it to True, not yes. But shouldn't anything nonempty
work? So probably she needs to move
configure: error: found Fink in /sw/bin/fink. Either:
(1) rename /opt/local and /sw, or
(2) change PATH and DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH
(Once Sage is built, you can restore them.)
If you would like to try to build Sage anyway (to help porting),
export the variable 'SAGE_PORT' to something
On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:35:47 PM UTC-4, john_perry_usm wrote:
On the other hand, a student could combine the two ideas, or work on the
interactive plots within the cloud, so as to prepare for a future move to a
personal version. (Hint to students who read this.)
This seems like a
Preliminary points:
1) It's unreasonable to always ask reviewers to implement their ideas. For
instance, sometimes they may find a problem but not be sufficiently expert
to implement it; that doesn't mean there isn't a problem. Of course, then
other reviewers may decide the critique is too
This may not be news to some of you, but is encouraging:
http://www.openscience.org/blog/?p=707
If anyone here knows any computational biologists (I know some of you
do/are), http://www.open-bio.org/wiki/BOSC_2014 is their conference in
connection with a big bioinformatics conference in
On Friday, March 7, 2014 11:04:29 PM UTC-5, Inderpreet Singh wrote:
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 9:15 AM, john_perry_usm
john@usm.edujavascript:
wrote:
If the 2d notebook is on its way out, we should probably remove that, so
that students don't waste their time with proposals that
Two comments on this reply to the post:
Respect that. Don't attempt to short-cut the review process with polls.
That is true in general, but sometimes there have been cases where it
really was more realistic to go to sage-devel. That is particularly true
with spkg upgrades at times, or the
update the wiki page with the most idiomatic
translation there.
In fact, maybe any native speakers could update that page - I can't imagine
source code is Catalan for source code :) Volker, Quellcode or something
for German?
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On Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:11:10 AM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:33:22 AM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
The problem is that Sage cannot know in advance that you will *not* move
the Sage tree.
Neither does any other software. If you move an installed program
that
might not be optimal for other reasons but at any rate it is a user
request, FWIW.
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[2] http://legacy.earlham.edu/~peters/knotlink.htm#software
*June 2, 2004*. Unfortunately I no longer have time to update *Knots on
the Web*. I know it conntains many dead links and omits many good, new
sites.
And my understanding is that the Knot
Atlas
On Friday, February 21, 2014 3:45:45 AM UTC-5, Ralf Stephan wrote:
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 7:18:55 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote:
And this is a good time to remind people not to *close* posts, but flag
them, so they can be deleted, if they are truly spam. I haven't tried to
actually
On Friday, February 21, 2014 7:52:45 AM UTC-5, Niles Johnson wrote:
hmmm; we need a bigger hammer here. There was no more spam coming in when
I left the office last night, but now at least the first 7 pages are full
of spam from several different users. I can't delete that many by hand.
On Friday, February 21, 2014 9:11:33 AM UTC-5, Niles Johnson wrote:
Now that I've spent a little time thinking about this, here are some
comments:
* I misread our version of askbot -- it's over 2 years old
True.
* recent versions of askbot (6 months ago or so) can put a captcha on
On Friday, February 21, 2014 9:40:56 AM UTC-5, kcrisman wrote:
On Friday, February 21, 2014 9:11:33 AM UTC-5, Niles Johnson wrote:
Now that I've spent a little time thinking about this, here are some
comments:
* I misread our version of askbot -- it's over 2 years old
True
Looks like William just redirected ask.sagemath to his own homepage for
now. I had almost finished deleting all the spam, too ;-) Good thing I
was giving an exam!
On Friday, February 21, 2014 9:50:18 AM UTC-5, kcrisman wrote:
On Friday, February 21, 2014 9:40:56 AM UTC-5, kcrisman wrote
I thought of one more issue here. Has the new branch of sagenb where the
report a bug link goes to ask.sagemath instead of the Google doc gone
live yet? That would be unfortunate at this time.
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On Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:14:45 PM UTC-5, Niles Johnson wrote:
Blocking and deleting posts helped a lot. But now this particular spammer
seems to be waiting a little while and then creating a new user to add more
spam (I've blocked and deleted the same spam from 4 or 5 separate
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:48:53 AM UTC-5, William wrote:
Hi,
I found that I'm an admin (which makes sense) -- I've changed kcrisman
and niles to be admins. You can make other people admins as you see
fit under Moderation -- Change status to:.
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On Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:37:00 AM UTC-5, Niles Johnson wrote:
I was just going to ask the same question. Karl and I can edit posts to
remove the spam, but we can't actually delete posts or ban users.
Currently the front page of ask.sagemath is almost completely full of
spam,
See my answer to your ask.sagemath question for a workaround,
and http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/10750
On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:10:03 AM UTC-5, Julius wrote:
Hi, I've posted this question in ask.sagemath but maybe this is a better
place. Sorry if this is an already known problem, but
Does anyone have know who is working on improving the numerical methods in
Sage? I am beginning my graduate program in numerical analysis and would
like to use Sage for my work and research.
Can you be more specific? There has been a lot of work getting Sage to use
mpmath for evaluating
And welcome to Sage!
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:09:23 PM UTC-5, kcrisman wrote:
Does anyone have know who is working on improving the numerical methods in
Sage? I am beginning my graduate program in numerical analysis and would
like to use Sage for my work and research.
Can you
Dear Amit,
Your email was received, but unfortunately there are not tons of people
creating accounts and it has not been responded to yet. Unfortunately, I
can't do it now either :-( but I hope someone will soon and do have time to
send a quick bump about it!
Best,
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On Wednesday
On page 15 of Math Horizons (now available online to all MAA members, I
believe), the command to find the inverse of a matrix modulo n using three
popular computer algebra systems is given. Sage is one of them. Just
thought some of you might enjoy that.
Another note: apparently this is for
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:09:13 PM UTC-5, William wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:05 PM, kcrisman kcri...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On page 15 of Math Horizons (now available online to all MAA members, I
believe), the command to find the inverse of a matrix modulo n using
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:31:27 PM UTC-5, rjf wrote:
OK, it makes sense to me that you might resent not being able to freely
execute software you write if that software depends, in some essential way,
on some other software that you do not have full / free access to.
No, I am not
Great point! I've added this to the ticket.
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:39:42 PM UTC-5, William wrote:
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:01 PM, kcrisman kcri...@gmail.com javascript:
wrote:
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:42:31 PM UTC-5, alexeft...@gmail.comwrote:
I have been
On Sunday, February 9, 2014 1:37:27 PM UTC-5, rjf wrote:
On Friday, February 7, 2014 9:17:23 PM UTC-8, kcrisman wrote:
So, in the Sage/GAP/etc. urban legend, some pathetic PhD student proves a
theorem, and then upon graduating can't afford the software it's
implemented in.
Doesn't
Thanks all! I figured it was somewhere in GAP's stuff. Turned out I never
had time for this example (very different crowd, wasn't as relevant) but I
appreciate it for the future.
No worries, Volker - I definitely rarely focus on free beer ;-)
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I have been working on a way to view sage x3d files interactively through
the sage notebook. If anyone is interested, I got it working (although you
have to refresh the page to see the display, I am pretty sure
be
grateful.
Thanks,
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Yep.I think in library code we should just do it though -- use
print as a function.
When we do eventually switch to Python 3, I want to modify the preparse to
allow
use of print as statement still, since for interactive use it is very
natural (and not allowing
it will
I think it would be very useful to have very explicit instructions for
how to create and stay on develop from upstream *using the sage -dev
scripts*. I'll eventually figure it out but it's nice to have it within
Sage, again. Unified context.
This is actually almost something we
From http://ask.sagemath.org/question/3475/sage-course-in-colombia :
++
I am interested in finding a person who can teach a course of sage in
Colombia (Bogotá).
++
It seems like sage-devel and sage-edu are more appropriate than a QA page
for this, so please respond here.
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I don't even get an error message, it just never loads. However, Google
does have a cache of it from a week or two ago.
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Oh, and it's not clear to me
from http://sagemath.org/doc/developer/walk_through.html#reviewing what
to do when I'm *done* reviewing! I guess one checks out master but
that is just something I sort of got through osmosis and I don't know if
it's right, nor the sage -dev syntax
Unfortunately, the simple syntax didn't work. Maybe I have to do
something else so it knows what develop is? But that isn't in the
doc.
1. What command are you running?
Volker's last thing makes a lot more sense. What I want to do is to get
back to the master or develop
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:14:23 AM UTC-5, Sami Losoi wrote:
Here is a code which works directly in Python and fires up a new window,
but not in Sage Notebook:
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
import scipy.io
data = scipy.io.loadmat('arrytmia_data_bad.mat')
x = data['data']
On Friday, January 24, 2014 8:22:04 AM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 3:50:37 PM UTC, kcrisman wrote:
The highlighting/coloration on the patches on Trac was also easier to
read, but I don't know if that is as easily fixable.
I kind of prefer the new highlighting
$ export MAKE=make -j3
$ make
lots of new messages early on, including downloads of mpir - I was not
expecting to need to be on the internet to build Sage, just to download the
source
The Sage repository should not contain binary files nor non-sage specific
source code, so
On Friday, January 24, 2014 8:48:32 AM UTC-5, kcrisman wrote:
On Friday, January 24, 2014 8:22:04 AM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 3:50:37 PM UTC, kcrisman wrote:
The highlighting/coloration on the patches on Trac was also easier to
read, but I don't know
The Sage repository should not contain binary files nor non-sage specific
source code, so
naturally cloning the sage repository would not include compressed
tarballs of upstream
code. There are two ways to get a copy of sage with these files (so you
can do an offline
build): either
On Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:42:19 AM UTC-5, Pedro Cruz wrote:
Good morning,
in the context of Sage and Sphinx documentation system (or other doc
system) is there any direct way to do something like the TikZ community is
doing ( http://www.texample.net/tikz/examples/ ) ?
We are
sage: exit
Exiting Sage (CPU time 0m0.46s, Wall time 1m38.05s).
$ ./sage -dev checkout --ticket 15693
Trac username: kcrisman
# Your trac username has been written to a configuration file for future
# sessions. To reset your username, use dev.trac.reset_username().
On ticket #15693 with associated
The people who break the licensing code might also insert malware, so you
might not want to run it on an internet-connected computer. And you might
want to be secretive about your little criminal activity.
Good point, though if I recall correctly from my college days most people
who
Well, I guess the situation with respect to software piracy in China (and
presumably elsewhere) is well-known. I especially find the quote about
Magma v2.20 interesting.
Russia used to be quite similar in this respect - largely due to abundance
of pirated wares things like Linux etc
to proprietary software because it doesn't
function in a proprietary way there; it makes some practical arguments for
open source rather less compelling. Are there any researchers thinking of
planning a Sage Days in the PRC? That would be really ground-breaking.
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If China has such huge resource then surely someone there could run a
Sage notebook server. Are they somehow asking for someone outside
China to provide one which can be used from China? Surely any open
Sage server could be used from there?
I think that the point is that sometime
presentations and side-by-side help?
Supposedly that was to happen *before* 6.0 ;-) Maybe I'll get a tutorial
in Baltimore!
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- is this still a problem?
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On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:24:19 PM UTC-5, William wrote:
Hi,
There is going to be Sage / SageMathCloud booth at the Joint
Mathematics Meetings in Baltimore next week. Like last year, I'm
planning to be there *most* of the time, rather than wandering around
to lots of talks.
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 9:41:42 AM UTC-5, P Purkayastha wrote:
On 01/04/2014 10:20 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote:
The docstring will read :
- ``type`` -- When set to Pappian, the method only returns Pappian
projective planes. No other value is available.
From what I
Amazingly, this was merged!
https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/commit/a3abbb458e7142f76c8d465bba7e85c0bcb4de15
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:55:06 AM UTC-4, kcrisman wrote:
I've submitted a pull request.
https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/2468
If anyone cares about
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 7:38:22 AM UTC-5, Maarten Derickx wrote:
It is now at: http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/coding_basics.html
The name of the url changed, but if you look at the index
http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/index.html you can still easily
find it.
Not
It is cool, that's for sure! My daughter enjoyed zooming in and out of
these just now.
On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:13:36 AM UTC-5, P Purkayastha wrote:
This blog article might be of interest:
http://jakevdp.github.io/blog/2013/12/19/a-d3-viewer-for-matplotlib/
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Minh originated, though it's been long enough that I'm not sure).
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On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:37:23 PM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
No, I haven't. I also think that track ticket triage is somewhat
orthogonal to release management, many projects don't link those. If a
ticket is duplicate, say, then just close it as duplicate. Its not closed
in any
On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:43:09 PM UTC-5, P Purkayastha wrote:
On 12/10/2013 02:15 AM, Harald Schilly wrote:
additional idea: we should change the URL to an indirect one. Then we
can change this more easily! e.g. http://sagemath.org/report-issue;
which is a 301 redirect to ask or
On Monday, December 9, 2013 11:10:05 AM UTC-5, Nathann Cohen wrote:
In order to use sage-support you have to get a google account (which
is already a major pain for some people, e.g., high school students
with no cell phone), sign up for a mailing list, wait for approval,
etc., then
That doesn't take care of all the ones still out there. We'd almost need
a Sage Days just to record all of them, try them out, contact back if they
are still valid...
PS looks like ppurka put in a lot of work just now on some - did he also
put stuff on the bug report doc? At one point
I'm not a pickling or memory leak expert, but some of you are. Earn some
Stackoverflow rep.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20294628/using-pythons-pickle-in-sage-results-in-high-memory-usage
Possible answer:
Just for the record, this wasn't my question :) but hopefully the
I'm not a pickling or memory leak expert, but some of you are. Earn some
Stackoverflow rep.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20294628/using-pythons-pickle-in-sage-results-in-high-memory-usage
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So... http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageServer
and http://wiki.sagemath.org/DanDrake/JustEnoughSageServer didn't help?
Note that there are warnings not to attempt this if you don't know
something about network security (which I don't, so I don't try to set up a
server). But this should be
On the subject of the time taken to compile R: R itself compiles
in
parallel relatively
fast.
Really? I find that, when building sufficiently in parallel, R is
actually the *second slowest* package of all packages to compile,
after
ATLAS.
statistics... or
data-analysis and installs all of them.
That is a very good idea, though I guess one could also use the sage
-ipython line to install them via pip or something, right?
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On Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:28:46 PM UTC-5, Dr David Kirkby wrote:
This is interesting, thought it is not clear to me just how far it will
go.
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:08:44 PM UTC-5, François wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:54:10 Jason Grout wrote:
On 11/21/13 9:35 AM, kcrisman wrote:
I love that the Sage cell supports it (there was a fascinating blog
post
about embedding R a year or so ago), ... it would be very
I tried searching the source for instances of rpy---which would indicate
we were using R through the rpy or rpy2 python module, and none of these
references are actually using R.:
As I've pointed out on other occasions, we never used R via rpy in the
first place. However, it would be
Obviously, R is heavily used in zillions of places with more money than a
lot of Sage folks are at. But just one data point for comparison with the
notion of Sage training events.
http://www.eventbrite.com/e/rstudio-public-workshop-boston-area-tickets-8156976737
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On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:07:32 PM UTC-5, jason wrote:
On 11/20/13 12:48 PM, kcrisman wrote:
Obviously, R is heavily used in zillions of places with more money than
a lot of Sage folks are at. But just one data point for comparison with
the notion of Sage training events
the regress ends. I'd
investigate more but I have to go teach :) but I figure you'll be able to
track it down pretty quickly.
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On Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:18:43 AM UTC-5, Ursin Solèr wrote:
Hello all!
I was just wondering whether it could be a good idea to include ggplot
[1] with SAGE. What do you think about that? Was it already discussed
once?
[1] https://github.com/yhat/ggplot/
* pip installable
On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 12:56:07 PM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
Sounds like you want this:
sage: Z5xZ5 = AdditiveAbelianGroup([5, 5])
sage: x = Z5xZ5([1,3])
sage: x
(3, 1)
sage: x + x
(1, 2)
sage: 5*x
(0, 0)
sage: 5*x == 0
True
Related:
I like this discussion, hopefully we'll find a good result. What if
multiple people are contributing to a ticket - how might that play in for
the various options?
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On Monday, October 21, 2013 12:54:45 AM UTC-4, Iftikhar Burhanuddin wrote:
Hi folks,
I thought the following might interest some of you.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/problem-generator/
Right now, the Generator covers six subjects: arithmetic, number theory,
algebra, calculus, linear
Please see
http://ask.sagemath.org/question/3110/osx-108-installation-failure
Using the binaries. Tried both 10.6 and 10.8 osx app versions. System
running 10.8.5. Sage does not appear to load. The following appears at the
end of the log:
File
Prof. Odlyzko, is there any copyright status we could put on your zeta
function database to keep it a legitimate part of Sage? It is obviously
extremely useful to have as (an optional) part of this open source software.
Andrew replied but isn't on sage-devel so it probably was not
required to do
the same thing. That said, standardizing for Sage itself would be
convenient!
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the same status as the huge database
http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/databases/sage/databases/stein_watkins.html
? Presumably some random (for certain values of random) person affiliated
with Sage should know the copyright status of this one... just sayin'.
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I would rather wish to discuss in detail problems and solutions for the
files panel at SMC and work this out from a general UX perspective.
Guiding users to accomplish all common basic tasks with ease is certainly
possible. This also involves gathering a lot of feedback and
,
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there is a healthy discussion going on here, btw!
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On Monday, October 14, 2013 10:51:25 AM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote:
On Monday, October 14, 2013 3:38:57 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote:
And of course it would be nearly impossible to switch licenses to AGPL
at this point
Not true - GPLv3 and AGPLv3 are compatible. We could release an
AGPL3
http://voice.instructure.com/blog/bid/148942/Our-Open-Source-Strategy
Interesting points, and of course the question of whether it stays open
remains...
It's AGPL, according to
If you haven't been following the LMS scene for a while, a new AGPL
competitor is on the
On Friday, October 11, 2013 3:00:05 AM UTC-4, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
Should we mention in the Sage manual (for example, here:
http://www.sagemath.org/doc/installation/quick-guide.html) that it is
entirely possible to run Sage without actually installation, using
SageMathCloud?
Do we
If you haven't been following the LMS scene for a while, a new AGPL
competitor is on the scene - with over 200 employees.
http://voice.instructure.com/blog/bid/148942/Our-Open-Source-Strategy
Interesting points, and of course the question of whether it stays open
remains...
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If you haven't been following the LMS scene for a while, a new AGPL
competitor is on the scene - with over 200 employees.
http://voice.instructure.com/blog/bid/148942/Our-Open-Source-Strategy
Interesting points, and of course the question of whether it stays open
remains...
Though even
I've submitted a pull request.
https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/2468
If anyone cares about this, note that apparently MPL's list is the list of
colors from W3C. Sounds like they might still be okay with it - or would
we want to hack our copy of mpl? I'm agnostic about
Can someone with an older version of Xcode remind me of what gcc
--version returns?
$ gcc --version
i686-apple-darwin11-llvm-gcc-4.2 (GCC) 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build
5658) (LLVM build 2336.11.00)
But this is on OS 10.7.
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