[sage-devel] Re: Nonabelian group of order 12

2009-10-16 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Rob Beezer goo...@beezer.cotse.net wrote: In introductory group theory, I like to be sure to expose the students to every group of order 15 or less.  As permutation groups, most of these are easily available in Sage via cyclic permutation groups, perhaps

[sage-devel] Re: Trademarking SageMath

2009-10-16 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:47 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, ... The word SageMath does not have any entries at all in the trademark database. The point of this email is to discuss:   (1) Should we trademark SageMath (pretty obvious yes)? +1   (2) Should we also

[sage-devel] Re: Patches for differential equations

2009-10-15 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:12 AM, ma...@mendelu.cz ma...@mendelu.cz wrote: Hello all This is for developers interested in Calculus. Since the patch for #385 is available and seems to work for me, I finished my work on #6479 You have to use 2 patches from #6479 and one patch from #385

[sage-devel] Re: Patches for differential equations

2009-10-13 Thread David Joyner
I will try to look at it in the next week or so. Hopefully by this weekend. Thanks for working on it! On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:12 AM, ma...@mendelu.cz ma...@mendelu.cz wrote: Hello all This is for developers interested in Calculus. Since the patch for #385 is available and seems to

[sage-devel] Re: implicit_diff

2009-10-06 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, john_perry_usm john.pe...@usm.edu wrote: Hi, From what I can tell, Sage lacks an explicit function to compute implicit derivatives, akin say to Maple's implicit_diff command. See this (really) old thread:    

[sage-devel] Re: A bug in code.minimum_distance()

2009-10-05 Thread David Joyner
Robert Miller might be thinking about this but heard of no progress recently. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Kwankyu ekwan...@gmail.com wrote: If David Joyner looks at this, I want to ask what is the quick way in Sage to get code.information_set()? Kwankyu

[sage-devel] Re: Spies Sage Development Prize

2009-10-05 Thread David Joyner
Congratulations Mike! Well-deserved and thanks for the great work. On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've written the official citation for Mike Hansen who won the 2009 Spies Sage Development prize. The 2009 Spies Sage Development Prize ($500) is

[sage-devel] Re: AbelianGroup's subgroups

2009-10-03 Thread David Joyner
The abelian group class needs to be rewritten. The basic idea was to try to use GAP as much as possible and use Python/Sage to parse input and output. For various technical reasons, that did not work as nicely as hoped. The correct solution, may be to rewrite it from scratch completely separate

[sage-devel] Re: silly license question

2009-10-01 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:53 PM, David Harvey dmhar...@cims.nyu.edu wrote: I am confused. I want to release bernmm 1.1 under the (modified) BSD license. It depends on NTL, which is GPL-licensed. Can I do this? Or am I forced to release bernmm under GPL? The modified BSD is probably okay, but

[sage-devel] Re: sagemath.org + google translate + localization

2009-09-30 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: hi, i don't want to add this feature to the sagemath website without a warning. with google translate it would be possible to display a translate-bar on top of the page if the browser language (you can set it,

[sage-devel] Re: standalone sage notebook

2009-09-29 Thread David Joyner
Here is a bug, which is reproducible on my machine. Machine: intell macbook, 10.6 Browser: Camino Operation: Go to the below URL, click browser published worksheets (without logging in), click the bottom one by wstein (a random...). Bug: Camino crashes. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:01 AM,

[sage-devel] Re: Need reviewer for a SERIOUSLY messed up package!!

2009-09-29 Thread David Joyner
Thanks for working on this. What more needs to be tested? The install went fine on an intel macbook running 10.6. Maybe Robert Bradshaw should comment on it, since he wrote rubik.py? On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I found the rubiks package

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.2.alpha4 doctest failures on OS X 10.6

2009-09-28 Thread David Joyner
I found Sage 4.1.2.a4 to compile fine on an intel macbok running 10.6. he folowing doctests failed: The following tests failed: sage -t devel/sage/sage/calculus/calculus.py sage -t devel/sage/sage/calculus/tests.py sage -t devel/sage/sage/calculus/wester.py

[sage-devel] Re: minor typo in Constructions documentation

2009-09-22 Thread David Joyner
Many thanks for this. There is nothing I can do about this in the near future, for various reasons, so if someone else wants to create a ticket for this, that won't bother me:-) If not, I'll eventually get around to it though. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Mariah mariah.le...@gmail.com

[sage-devel] Re: SHA-3 Competition and Sage

2009-09-16 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: Hi there, I am not sure how many readers of [sage-devel] are aware of the fact that currently there is an internal competition going on to find the next secure hash function.  

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.2.alpha1 released

2009-09-15 Thread David Joyner
Sorry for the late report but sage finally compiles and runs on ubuntu karmic. sage -testall passes except for sage -t devel/sage/sage/server/simple/twist.py However, re-runnig this test, I got an All tests passed!, so it looks like there are no problems now with ubuntu 9.10. On Mon, Sep 7,

[sage-devel] Re: learn money from home

2009-09-15 Thread David Joyner
It's been noticed and the 2 recent spammers banned. It seems some spammers are able to beat the system, or else google's filters are not working properly. Sorry for the spam and inconvenience. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: Just in case

[sage-devel] Re: experience with lulu

2009-09-14 Thread David Joyner
I don't know about lulu but I do have experience with createspace.com (which is similar I think but the only vanity press amazon accepts). Let me know if you want more details. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: Hi, I am curious about anyone's experience

[sage-devel] Re: experience with lulu

2009-09-14 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:51 PM, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about lulu but I do have experience with createspace.com (which is similar I think but the only vanity press amazon accepts). Let me

[sage-devel] Re: Unknown address

2009-09-13 Thread David Joyner
I don't know how this was caused nor if there is anything the admins can do about it. Were the bounced emails coming from a particular email address of yours? On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote: Hi! The posts that I recently did on sage-devel resulted

[sage-devel] Re: sage-devel posting problems

2009-09-13 Thread David Joyner
This is weird. I don't know the explanation. Hopefully, a fix will happen soon. Others are having this problem too. On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Peter peterjer...@acm.org wrote: Hi, I was recently forced to change email addresses when, without warning, my ISP disabled the domain I had

[sage-devel] Re: Standard Sage Components (was Re: Solaris - what do we expect?)

2009-09-13 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:29 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm pretty much by default against adding any new standard packages to Sage anytime soon.I can't think of anything even on the horizon. Maybe some sort of linear programming code is being proposed. Can

[sage-devel] Re: Standard Sage Components (was Re: Solaris - what do we expect?)

2009-09-13 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 5:50 PM, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: ... I had forgotten about them -- thanks for pointing them out. Fortunately, those are both mainstream widely mature packages -- note that both

[sage-devel] Re: The Digital Signature Algorithm in Maxima and Sage

2009-09-08 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Minh Nguyennguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Anyone for Sage and the Digital Signature Algorithm? Here's a post on it at This seems like a good idea to me. http://amca01.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/the-digital-signature-algorithm-in-maxima-and-sage/ --

[sage-devel] Re: reddit

2009-09-07 Thread David Joyner
Cool. I'm not familiar with reddit but the posters don't seem to be aware that Sage includes some Rubik's cube solvers. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:54 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, It's a little late, but a few days ago there was a discussion on reddit about math software

[sage-devel] Re: Stallings book to use sage

2009-09-06 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Balbir Singhbsinghar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Everyone, This should probably go to a sage-promotion list, but developers are usually keen to know as well. I just saw the following text at http://www.williamstallings.com/Future.html. It will be good to see a

[sage-devel] Re: How do I apply a patch or clean up a repository?

2009-09-01 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Stan Schymanskischym...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, ... I tried different ways of applying a patch with the only success that I probably made a bit of a mess in my repository. Is there a way to revert it back to a clean 4.1.1 install? I'm not sure what you

[sage-devel] Re: How do I apply a patch or clean up a repository?

2009-09-01 Thread David Joyner
? Maybe I should recompile from scratch (?). Or just do sage -ba as suggested in the error message? Sorry about the mess. Yes, I would create a new version by compiling from source. It seems like your upgrade got corrupted somehow maybe? Cheers, Stan David Joyner wrote: On Tue, Sep 1

Re: [codenode-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-31 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:19 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: ... Hello, Does anybody know of an *open source* (so could be included in Sage) AJAX spreadsheet implementation?   I.e., something kind of like Google docs spreadsheet or http://www.editgrid.com/, but open source.   That

[sage-devel] Re: Applying a patch to a clone

2009-08-26 Thread David Joyner
The way I do this (which may not be the best way) is 1. cd to the SAGE_ROOT directory 2. ./sage -b main(this assures you are starting from the main branch and not cloning form a clone) 3. ./sage -clone ABCDx (where ABCD is the trac number you are applying the patch from and x=a for the first

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-25 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Grant proposal season is upon us, and things are in the works. Imagine somebody said to you: Please send me a list of items you would like us to fund.  What I need is just a sentence or two (at most a paragraph)

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 build halt

2009-08-23 Thread David Joyner
Sage is now building from source on 64bit ubuntu karmic, under the latest (alpha 4?) release! On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:12 PM, J Elaychmicrosc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 beta with amd64 x2 and the gcc version 4.4.1 (Ubuntu 4.4.1-1ubuntu1).  The build just stops at base3, for

[sage-devel] Re: formal power series package

2009-08-21 Thread David Joyner
Did you create a ticket and a patch for it on trac? If so, what is the trac number? On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Henryk Trappmannbo198...@googlemail.com wrote: My last post on this topic is now nearly 5 months time ago:

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to print extra information in the banner.

2009-08-21 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: When Sage starts, it gives you the version and license, but not much else. -- | Sage Version 4.1.1, Release Date: 2009-08-14

[sage-devel] Re: formal power series package

2009-08-21 Thread David Joyner
. The Developers guide has useful information on creating patches http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/index.html On 21 Aug., 13:14, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: Did you create a ticket and a patch for it on trac? If so, what is the trac number

[sage-devel] Re: bibtex function

2009-08-20 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:17 PM, j...@aims.ac.za wrote: Hi Here http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1348 I suggested a bibtex() function. bibtex(sage) bibtex(scipy) etc. I am not able to implement it due to time and skill. Whatever happened to that? There is this comment in

[sage-devel] Re: Chris Godsil @ Sage seminar: slides

2009-08-19 Thread David Joyner
Can these be posted to the wiki somewhere? On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Robert Millerrlmills...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, For those of you not in Seattle today / not at Chris's talk at the Sage seminar, here is a copy of his slides. -- Forwarded message -- From:

[sage-devel] Re: Chris Godsil @ Sage seminar: slides

2009-08-19 Thread David Joyner
Thanks Minh! On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Minh Nguyennguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: Can these be posted to the wiki somewhere? See this talks wiki page http://wiki.sagemath.org/Talks -- Regards Minh

[sage-devel] Re: referee requests

2009-08-16 Thread David Joyner
: #6668, #6531 David Joyner: #6685, #6679, #6680, #6572 I already volunteered for http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6447 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6648 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6750 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6654 http://trac.sagemath.org

[sage-devel] Re: referee requests

2009-08-16 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Robert Millerrlmills...@gmail.com wrote: David, On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 8:06 AM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: Are these in addition? I'm not an expert in graph theory anyway, which most of the ones you listed are about. I can take #6679, #6680

[sage-devel] Re: referee requests

2009-08-16 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:06 AM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Alex Ghitzaaghi...@gmail.com wrote: ... David Joyner: #6685, #6679, #6680, #6572 I already volunteered for http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6447 I'm doing http

[sage-devel] Re: patch reviews

2009-08-15 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:58 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sage-devel, Sage-4.1.1 was just released, so now is a perfect time to review a few patches.  Spend a few minutes soon, skim through    http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/14 and review 1 ticket. I gave

[sage-devel] Re: Updated ECL package

2009-08-13 Thread David Joyner
This one installed just fine one an intel macbook running 10.4.11! I will now test the new maxima spkg you created. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Juanjo, the main ECL developer has made new source release in the last 24 hours. I've created

[sage-devel] Re: Interactive pdf?

2009-08-13 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Simon Kingsimon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote: Hi Sage-Devels, apparently my new boss is very good in TeX: He showed me a draft (or better: proof of concept) of a book in pdf format, and when you click the examples, a gap session pops up and lets you compute

[sage-devel] Re: cvxopt is now under GPLv3+

2009-08-13 Thread David Joyner
This is my understanding: the (old) version of cvxopt which we use in Sage is GPLv2+. The current version is 1.1.1, which is GPLV3+. Is that incorrect? On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Minh Nguyennguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, We're currently shipping cvxopt 0.9 which is licensed

[sage-devel] Re: cvxopt is now under GPLv3+

2009-08-13 Thread David Joyner
You're right. I think sage-2.7.2 had a cvxopt-0.8.2.spkg which might have been GPLv2+, but I can't find it using google. It has been removed from the cvxopt website. I wonder if we should just upgrade to 1.1.1 and change the part in SAGE_ROOT/COPYING.txt which says Every component of Sage

[sage-devel] Re: cvxopt is now under GPLv3+

2009-08-13 Thread David Joyner
Of course, you should ask William before doing anything. Also, I'm not sure how cvxopt interacts with Sage. If only via pexpect, I think you can distribute such GPLv2 and GPLv3 software together but I'd have to check the FSF FAQ again to be sure. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:50 PM, David

[sage-devel] proposal to make PIL standard

2009-08-13 Thread David Joyner
Hi: I'd like to suggest that PIL be made standard. This requires a vote. Though PIL is written in Python, the trac ticket http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6741 adds some functions which make the interface even easier to use in many cases. Thanks, David Joyner

[sage-devel] Re: cvxopt is now under GPLv3+

2009-08-13 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:41 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Minh Nguyennguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... Regarding cvxopt, we should definitely upgrade the spkg.  It's just a I agree. standard Python library, by the way (not pexpect).  

[sage-devel] Re: Test failures with sage-4.1.1.rc0 with Maxima 5.19.0

2009-08-12 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripolljuanjose.garciarip...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripolljuanjose.garciarip...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: maxima

[sage-devel] Re: Test failures with sage-4.1.1.rc0 with Maxima 5.19.0

2009-08-11 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: ... It would be good if some people could try http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Solaris-fixes/ecl-9.8.1/ecl-9.8.1.spkg and

[sage-devel] Re: Review for enhancement adding displayhook to Sage

2009-08-11 Thread David Joyner
There are a huge number of errors in sage -testall when applied to 4.1.1.rc2 on an intel macbook 10.4.11. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:46 PM, William Cauchoiswcauch...@gmail.com wrote: I recently attached a patch to #1918 adding a displayhook to Sage that should make some output from the Sage

[sage-devel] Re: Review for enhancement adding displayhook to Sage

2009-08-11 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:43 PM, William Cauchoiswcauch...@gmail.com wrote: I can't believe I forgot to run -testall! The displayhook was using the wrong output stream in doctesting mode. I've managed to fix this issue  in my branch. However, I realize now that since the displayhook changes

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc2 released

2009-08-09 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:33 AM, gswgeorgswe...@googlemail.com wrote: On 8 Aug., 23:21, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: I had a build failure on my intel macbook running OS 10.4.11. The install log is at sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/patches/install.log I'm not sure how important

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-08-09 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: ... This is a more complicated package than PIL, but I think one should work with it (which I plan to do) before proposing what Sage should include. I see, thanks. Post here how it goes. I have looked at both VIPS

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Notebook Threat Model - draft

2009-08-09 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Yoav Anery...@gingerlime.com wrote: This is a follow-up on my previous post on http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/msg/1f851e27f5500712 - which (for obvious reasons) generated overwhelming response :) I have now completed the first 'official' draft of

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 build halt

2009-08-06 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:34 PM, J Elaychmicrosc...@gmail.com wrote: I went into spkg/build and tried different flags.  Surprisingly with MAKE=make it systematically died at the same place, base3.c, but with MAKE=make -j2 it continued on until it reached init.c, and stopped there.  Ubuntu is

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 build halt

2009-08-06 Thread David Joyner
I tried export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 export CXX=/usr/bin/cpp-3.4 then removing the links gcc, cpp and relinking with sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc sudo ln -s /usr/bin/cpp-3.4 /usr/bin/cpp The build failed at matplotlib. One error was that c++ was not installed on the system. On

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1.1.rc1 build halt

2009-08-06 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:32 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/6 David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com I tried export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 export CXX=/usr/bin/cpp-3.4 then removing the links gcc, cpp and relinking with sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc sudo ln -s /usr

[sage-devel] Re: pictures in the reference manual?

2009-08-05 Thread David Joyner
+1 I like this idea. I wonder if another possibility is to simply have a local link which notebook users could click on? I also wonder what would happen on command line if you typed plot?, where the docstring for plot had a picture? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:29 PM, John H

[sage-devel] Re: What do we do about the Maxima / ecl / Solaris issues?

2009-08-03 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I need some guidance on what do about some issues we have. I'll summarise, since not everyone is going to be aware of them. 1) Sage will not build on Solaris SPARC due to issues in the latest official ecl. (It is

[sage-devel] Re: reviews for Sage 4.1.1.rc1

2009-08-02 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Minh Nguyennguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, The Sage 4.1.1 release cycle is now in 4.1.1.rc1, which hasn't been released yet. As this release candidate is for stabilizing Sage and fixing bugs, I thought I should outline below a number of bug fixes

[sage-devel] Re: GLPK - Vote for possible inclusion in Sage

2009-08-01 Thread David Joyner
I think Nathann Cohen has done a very valuable service with the GLPK and COIN-OR-related packages. That said, I have a point of order question. Is is true or false that the process for a package to become standard we (1) use trac to do nomination, testing, and acceptance as an optional package,

[sage-devel] evil spkgs?

2009-08-01 Thread David Joyner
this no change rule. However, I think they are stronger, since I think suggestion #1 also affects how clones can be corrupted by an spkg. - David Joyner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group

[sage-devel] Re: Frequency of package updates?

2009-08-01 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Simon Kingsimon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote: Dear Sage developers, I asked the following question in a mail to William Stein and David Joyner, but William suggested the discussion should be in public. Yesterday my cohomology package became an optional spkg

[sage-devel] Re: what can we do with a database of primitive roots?

2009-07-31 Thread David Joyner
If you just recorded the smallest primitive roots I'll bet the database would get a lot smaller:-) Do you need all the prim roots in the CrypTool tutorial for a particular purpose, eg discrete logs? I'd guess a database of the smallest prim roots mod p for all primes out to a million (for

[sage-devel] Re: possible bug in permutation/quotient group?

2009-07-31 Thread David Joyner
Maybe I don't understand your question. It seems you are claiming that if G is a permutation group and H is a normal subgroup then the quotient G/H embeds into G. Are you sure that is true? On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Robert Schwarzm...@rschwarz.net wrote: Hi all, I was just playing

[sage-devel] Re: Sage sandpiles package, 4ti2, glpk packages

2009-07-31 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Marshall Hamptonhampto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for pointing that out.  I am somewhat disturbed by the positive review for that becoming a standard package, which seems inconsistent I don't know where you got that. I was the reviewer and I clearly said

[sage-devel] Re: Sage sandpiles package, 4ti2 and glpk spkgs

2009-07-31 Thread David Joyner
://www.d.umn.edu/~mham... in case anyone wants to take a look and fix or improve them. -Marshall On Jul 27, 4:30 pm, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble with 4ti installation. Maybe I'm just too impatient. Do you have an spkg for it? On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:02

[sage-devel] Re: Sage sandpiles package, 4ti2 and glpk spkgs

2009-07-31 Thread David Joyner
and replaced by yours. (2) the old glpk should be replaced by N Cohen's. Thanks for trying it out! Marshall On Jul 31, 7:06 pm, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for trying this Marshall. Unfortunately, your spkg, and the older experimental spkg, for 4ti2, both fail to install

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, ... -- As some of you may have noticed, Sage recently had a similar situation, in that in late May Michael Abshoff went AWOL -- he posted one message in May that he was taking a break for a month, and has not

[sage-devel] Re: Developing new classes

2009-07-30 Thread David Joyner
That would be very useful. You might want to look at sage/algebras/group_algebra.py. For example, type GroupAlgebra? If I were you, I'd try to get in touch with Mike Hansen to see if he has any suggestions on what you want to implement. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM,

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-07-30 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Minh Nguyennguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:44 AM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Several comments: I think Minh is doing a great job! It is fascinating to me that when a structure (like the Sage organization)

[sage-devel] Re: Circuits

2009-07-26 Thread David Joyner
This seems interesting. I teach circuits and networks every semester as an application of ODEs/systems of ODEs. The EMF is not necessarily constant and occasionally we might have a variable term (eg, a variable capacitor). Questions: 1. Does his program allow non-constant terms and symbolic

[sage-devel] Re: Preparse is the problem? Sage not compute FFT

2009-07-25 Thread David Joyner
This work in pure python. The problem in sage is with the line s = sin(2*pi*50*t)+sin(2*pi*70*t+pi/4) However, I don't know how to get Sage to evaluate the sin of a numpy.ndarray. For example, sage: sample_rate=1000.00 sage: import numpy sage:

[sage-devel] Re: New Riemann mapping package/patch

2009-07-24 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Minh Nguyennguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ethan, On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Ethan Van Andelevlu...@gmail.com wrote: under GPLv2+ or a compatible license. So if I understand you correctly, your whole project is less than 1000 lines of code and

[sage-devel] Re: Sage sandpiles package

2009-07-20 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 3:33 PM, davidpdav...@reed.edu wrote: I have been working on a Sage package for doing computations involving the Abelian Sandpile Model.  In addition, this summer I am the mentor for a Google Summer of Code project which is a java application for visualizing and

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and JSXGraph

2009-07-20 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Rob Beezergoo...@beezer.cotse.net wrote: William Stein wrote: Probably  I've cc'd this respond to the sage-devel mailing list to see what the many other sage developers think: I spent a few minutes looking at this.  Most of the examples look like many Sage

[sage-devel] Re: MIP, Coin-Or and GLPK. How to compile it ?

2009-07-18 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Nathann Cohennathann.co...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody !!! I finally wrote the two versions of the LP solver for SAGE, the first using COIN-OR and the second GLPK. It is a very early version of the solver, with few if any control of errors (

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-17 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Martin Albrechtm...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: On Thursday 16 July 2009, David Joyner wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Kiran Kedlayaksk...@gmail.com wrote: One pet complaint that you might bring up with the Singular team: I Speaking of pet

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-17 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:13 AM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Martin Albrechtm...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: On Thursday 16 July 2009, David Joyner wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Kiran Kedlayaksk...@gmail.com wrote: One pet complaint

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for inclusion of Frobby spkg

2009-07-16 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Bjarke Hammersholt Rounebjarke.ro...@gmail.com wrote: Frobby is currently an optional component of Sage, which performs computations related to monomial ideals. In particular, it can compute  * Multigraded Hilbert series  * Alexander dual of monomial ideals

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread David Joyner
Looks great as usual. I noticed a mis-spelling on page 46 (search for April in your latex file and you'll find it). On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Martin Albrechtm...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: Hi there, next week I'll visit the Singular group in Kaiserslautern. As a part of my visit

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-15 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:09 PM, J Elaychmicrosc...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, but I'm especially impressed by how well PIL stands up to VIPS.  It looks like vips was primarily designed to have a small memory imprint, especially for image files that are larger than physical memory.  PIL

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-15 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Kiran Kedlayaksk...@gmail.com wrote: One pet complaint that you might bring up with the Singular team: I Speaking of pet complaints, can you ask if they will at some point fix the bugs in the Riemann-Roch computations in the Brill-Noether routines? To be

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-13 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:30 PM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: ... So what are the arguments against PIL and for VIPS? Here are two reasons (Why use VIPS?)

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-12 Thread David Joyner
against this. Thanks in advance for any feedback. - David Joyner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options

[sage-devel] Re: implement knapsack problems solvers in Cython or Python?

2009-07-06 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Minh Nguyennguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Knapsack problems and their algorithmic solutions have many applications in industry, with operation research and cryptography to name two. As many, if not all, of the operation research software of COIN-OR

[sage-devel] Re: mixing package install with non-package installs

2009-07-06 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: ... On the other hand, the fact that the new format would deviate from the sage format would be a clear drawback. Maybe, we should have this discussion rather on the sage email list... Let's discuss this on the

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-06 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 7:05 PM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: ... 4. Should I interface also with pyglet classes? (Pyglet is included with    sympy, hence with sage, and does some very very basic image    

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.1.rc0 released

2009-07-05 Thread David Joyner
On an amd64 ubuntu 9.04 machine, install built fine and all tests passed. On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Robert Millerrlmills...@gmail.com wrote: Source tarball, sage.math binary, and upgrade URL are, respectively: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.rc0.tar

[sage-devel] PIL interface questions

2009-07-05 Thread David Joyner
.) Again, I don't know how this would be done... Thanks in advance for any feedback. - David Joyner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.1.alpha3

2009-07-03 Thread David Joyner
I got the same as Marshall (same machine+OS) but with one addition: The following tests failed: sage -t devel/sage/doc/en/a_tour_of_sage/index.rst sage -t devel/sage/doc/fr/tutorial/programming.rst sage -t devel/sage/sage/misc/darwin_utilities.pyx sage -t

[sage-devel] Re: Tutorial topics for SciPy'09 Conference

2009-07-01 Thread David Joyner
Note that there was already a Python+Sage talk at a recent SIAM conference http://fdoperez.blogspot.com/2008/07/python-tools-for-science-go-to-siam.html http://www.ams.org/ams/siam-2008.html#python which was apparently very popular. It may be that those who attended the SIAM conference and who

[sage-devel] Re: firefox 3.5 and jsmath

2009-07-01 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Jason Groutjason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Firefox 3.5 is now officially released.  Unfortunately, jsmath is broken in it (under ubuntu 9.04).  The fonts are messed up, so commas are replaced with semicolons, greek letters are accented roman letters, etc.  

[sage-devel] Re: firefox 3.5 and jsmath

2009-07-01 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Jason Groutjason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: David Joyner wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Jason Groutjason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Firefox 3.5 is now officially released.  Unfortunately, jsmath is broken in it (under ubuntu 9.04).  The fonts

[sage-devel] Re: Linear Programming and MIP... Let's start something huge !

2009-06-29 Thread David Joyner
Thanks for working on this! I agree with the points in your email. LP solvers are an important topic where I teach so I am happy to help. I think some of my colleagues would be very interested in trying out whatever is developed. I'm not an operations research person myself but would be

[sage-devel] Re: 3D using processing.js

2009-06-29 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:09 PM, William Cauchoiswcauch...@gmail.com wrote: At the behest of William I took a stab at implementing this very type of renderer in Sage. My work, [with patch], is available at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6447 for anyone who might be interested.

[sage-devel] Re: Naming Conventions for Dirac Delta, Heaviside Theta and Unit Step

2009-06-28 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Golam Mortuza Hossaingmhoss...@gmail.com wrote: Hi ... A patch is posted as a part of an old ticket http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/2452 Reviews are welcome. Thanks, I'll look at it. I just posted a comment there. Cheers, Golam

[sage-devel] Re: sage days 16 pictures

2009-06-27 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The Sage Days 16 pictures I took are here: http://wstein.org/pics/new/20090627-barcelona_sage_days16/ I loved the shot of the unix fire extinguisher! Also, video is posted for all the talks that were videod at

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