On 8/8/07, Ted Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We've discussed stuff like this before on sage-devel, and the
decision was made to not put any automatic call home features
in SAGE. For example, SAGE won't automatically check for
updates, report usage patterns, etc., without the user
William wrote:
We've discussed stuff like this before on sage-devel, and the
decision was made to not put any automatic call home features
in SAGE. For example, SAGE won't automatically check for
updates, report usage patterns, etc., without the user explicitly
doing something to opt in.
I am not a SAGE developer, and I'll probably say things that most of
you know already, but I thought about this so I might as well email
the list.
Here is how to go about and possibly improve rankings on Google (*):
Step 1: Everyone on this list could make sure to add a link to
sagemath.org on
I agree with most of what Paul said, except that the thread on karakas
has a page rank of 2, so I am not sure what the ROI would be on that
one.
For comparison, SAGE's homepage has a page rank of 6. My homepage,
which can easily be located, has a page rank of 5. Slashdot's homepage
has a page
Hi,
I just want to post to say thanks for all the excellent feedback
on the question I asked earlier. I think it is all very valuable,
even if some options aren't possible at present.
Regarding a native Windows port, such a thing would be wonderful to
have, but unfortunately it is *totally
Regarding Internet Explorer, the fact is it would
be 1-2 day's of work to make the SAGE notebook reasonably
usable from IE 7. Shift-enter would be replaced by
a submit button and some of the CSS would have to be
reworked, but otherwise most things would work. It hasn't
happened yet,
On 8/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regarding Internet Explorer, the fact is it would
be 1-2 day's of work to make the SAGE notebook reasonably
usable from IE 7. Shift-enter would be replaced by
a submit button and some of the CSS would have to be
reworked, but
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, William Stein wrote:
On 8/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regarding Internet Explorer, the fact is it would
be 1-2 day's of work to make the SAGE notebook reasonably
usable from IE 7. Shift-enter would be replaced by
a submit button and some of the
I'm here just to say that for non-US users, the name of the program is
not the simplest to found on the web. SAGE is a name with many
different meanings and I'd suggest a more peculiar name that could
let the program to be found instantly on the web.
And I agree that a web site with many
kaimmello wrote:
I'm here just to say that for non-US users, the name of the program is
not the simplest to found on the web. SAGE is a name with many
different meanings and I'd suggest a more peculiar name that could
let the program to be found instantly on the web.
I very much agree with
Now that the SAGE acronym has been dropped, I would recommend changing
the name to sagemath. This name matches the sagemath.org website, it
helps explain what sage is, and search engines will not return
unrelated sites if this name is used.
We bring this up every few months, and I maintain
This is kinda off the wall:
Mathematica, Maple, and Matlab don't have a lot of competition for
their keywords on Google, Yahoo, or MSN.
By offering a **very low bid** on each of the names, you could
probably put a message about the SAGE open source project on each of
their names. In addition,
Actually, to clarify and back up from the previous statement:
I don't know what the level of competition is for those keywords. I
thought it was low because Google didn't show a lot of ads, but that
could be an artifact of automated programs that only show ads that are
clicked on most frequently
On Wednesday 08 August 2007, William Stein wrote:
Hi Sage-Devel,
The SAGE downloads during the last week are as follows:
Linux Binary
42
OS X Binary
42
Source
91
VMware (= Windows)
57
Total .. 232
The number of new downloads of SAGE per week have
- right now, there is a huge hype surrounding AJAX, Web 2.0, user created
content and such. SAGE fits in there because of the SAGE notebook which is a
good example of AJAX actually being useful. Use the hype, let the AJAX crazy
dotcom world know about it: techcrunch.com, mashable.com,
On Wednesday 08 August 2007, Tim Lahey wrote:
On 8/8/07, Martin Albrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2.) undergrads taking calculus classes or people who use a CAS from time
to time only. If SAGE is to reach the 10.000 user mark it is probably
this group which makes up the big numbers. Many
On Aug 8, 3:59 am, Tim Lahey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I presented software I wrote to
symbolically derive
mass and stiffness matrices from first principles for finite element
analysis at
Maple's user conference in 2005.
That's cool. I wrote similar stuff in Mathematica when I had to take
William wrote:
Does anybody
have any good ideas about how to increase the number of people
downloading SAGE? My hope is that this question will spark a relaxed
but enthusiastic and positive open-ended brainstorming thread in which
a lot of crazy ideas appear.
I'm laying a lot of groundwork
On 8/8/07, Chris Chiasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's cool. I wrote similar stuff in Mathematica when I had to take
finite element classes. I bet yours is a lot more sophisticated than
mine. Is your work on the web?
No, it isn't on the web at the moment, mainly because some of the code
I
On Tuesday 07 August 2007 18:22, William Stein wrote:
The number of new downloads of SAGE per week have been roughly
constant during the last 2-3 months. The growth of SAGE is definitely
not what I hoped for during my talk at SAGE Days 4.Does anybody
have any good ideas about how to
On 8/8/07, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regarding Internet Explorer, the fact is it would
be 1-2 day's of work to make the SAGE notebook reasonably
usable from IE 7. Shift-enter would be replaced by
a submit button and
Anyone who is an academic using SAGE should try to give a little talk
on it to your department (unneccessary at UW of course). I did this
and I generated a fair amount of interest from our grad students. The
faculty weren't overwhelmed, they all wanted particular things that
sage currently
I've never used colinux, but why is vmware a preferable choice than colinux?
I would think that it would be much easier to get something that felt like a
native windows application with colinux. I also think that it makes more
sense in the long term (that is, virtualization is the wave of
On Aug 7, 2007, at 11:17 PM, William Stein wrote:
The suggestion to make a serious major push for good 3d graphics, is
clearly difficult but totally doable. I think this would be the best
investment of time at present for the greatest return.
The lack of good integrated interactive 3d
On 8/8/07, Joel B. Mohler wrote:
I've never used colinux, but why is vmware a preferable choice than colinux?
I would think that it would be much easier to get something that felt like a
native windows application with colinux.
I think both vmware and colinux do very clumsy things to the
On Aug 8, 12:03 pm, Ted Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It might even be possible to actually use Google analytics to track
global Sage notebook usage.
If this is implemented, could this please be restricted to
sagemath.org?
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On 8/8/07, Chris Chiasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 8, 12:03 pm, Ted Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It might even be possible to actually use Google analytics to track
global Sage notebook usage.
If this is implemented, could this please be restricted to
sagemath.org?
Yes, it
On 8/7/07, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The number of new downloads of SAGE per week have been roughly
constant during the last 2-3 months. The growth of SAGE is definitely
not what I hoped for during my talk at SAGE Days 4.Does anybody
have any good ideas about how to
A few thoughts:
* The public sage notebook really needs to be available by default on
port 443. This brings up a lot of issues that have
Being optimistic, I would hope things would pick up in the fall
compared to the summer (in fact, I think it's lucky to not have a
drop--assuming we're starting to aim for the non-research crowd too).
I don't have any specific ideas (yet), but I think the back to
school timeline is
As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows
version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard
packages - would likely be a big factor in attracting more users. In
my experience with Axiom, potential Windows users out number Linux
users by a large number
From: Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows
version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard
packages - would likely be a big factor in attracting more users.
Being a Windows user, I can't agree less. Also, the
Pick an organization or department that uses Mathematica or Maple or
MATLAB. Find out what they use it for. Put the same capabilities into
SAGE. Give SAGE to them, possibly with a turnkey demonstration.
Rinse and repeat??
On Aug 7, 5:22 pm, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Sage-Devel,
On 8/7/07, Alec Mihailovs wrote:
From: Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows
version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard
packages - would likely be a big factor in attracting more users.
Being a Windows
From: Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Being a Windows user, I can't agree less.
??? In my reading of English this sounds like you strongly disagree. :-(
Yes, my English is not that great. Certainly I meant strongly agree :-)
I am not sure if this is necessary but apparently Python can be built
On Aug 8, 4:25 am, Alec Mihailovs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Being a Windows user, I can't agree less.
??? In my reading of English this sounds like you strongly disagree. :-(
Yes, my English is not that great. Certainly I meant strongly agree :-)
I
From: mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The compartmentilazation of SAGE has been suggested many times before,
but as William has stated many times: This makes testing and debugging
infinitely more diffcult. It is also extreme likely that if you use
even minor different versions of certain
On Aug 8, 5:31 am, Alec Mihailovs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The compartmentilazation of SAGE has been suggested many times before,
but as William has stated many times: This makes testing and debugging
infinitely more diffcult. It is also extreme likely
On 5/3/07, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I gave a talk to my department about SAGE on April 19th. I know at
least a few people downloaded it here after that.
Thanks!
I had some explicit interest from our statistics folks on getting R
incorporated. I tried to install R and rpy on my
On May 2, 6:36 am, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By the way, here are some download stats for SAGE fromwww.sagemath.org(the
master site). These measure only the *unique* IP addresses that actually
downloaded the indicated item in the given period (see below).
Summary: The total
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