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From: Geoff Winkless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: Hi ho
So how does Chris White explain the disaster that was PS1 Speedball?
:)
Geoff
learning curve :)
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Sent: 06 January 2003 23:03
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Hi ho
Original Message -
From: Geoff Winkless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: Hi ho
So how
Chris White wrote:
I must have missed this, and I left 6months from end, just a
mixture of things really lol
Id put it down to experience as well
*chuckles*
Actually it wasn't all that bad, I was just disappointed that the
gameplay didn't seem as good as the amiga version :(
What do I
there's no
need to point it out :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Geoff Winkless
Sent: 07 January 2003 09:52
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: Hi ho
Chris White wrote:
I must have missed this, and I left 6months from
[ about me writing: ]
Actually it wasn't all that bad, I was just disappointed that
the gameplay didn't seem as good as the amiga version :(
Chris White wrote:
Well game play should be identical , as it's the Amiga AI
under the skin, converted from 68000 to C
Ahh. I thought I might not
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To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: OffTopic: PS1 Speedball (was Re Hi ho)
[ about me writing: ]
Actually it wasn't all that bad, I was just disappointed that
the gameplay didn't seem as good as the amiga version :(
Chris White wrote:
Well game play should be identical , as it's the Amiga
Cookie wrote:
However. Let's be clear here; there are those who had the
good fortune to grow up doing SAM stuff (or any earlier
machine), and those who didn't. The ones who did? Well, they
make games like Quantum Redshift, where everything runs at
60fps, and there's nary any slowdown or
Title: RE: Hi ho
So how does Chris White explain the disaster that was PS1 Speedball?
Zing! Hahaha!
Graham
Hi hoFrom: Graham Goring
Blimey, I was looking around for old Sam Coupé sites and I suddenly
remembered the mailing list. So I just thought I'd drop in and see how/what
everyone was doing? Obviously me and James Curry are still in contact but
I've not heard hide nor hair from most ex Spam Soufflé
Colin Piggot [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled:
I'd rather concentrate on the game design part of it myself, for me
that's the interesting bit about making games. :)
Well, that has to be the main part but on the other hand, saving
a few t-states isn't important when you have some 2GHz +
RE: Hi hoPart of the problem with SAM games programming was it had about 1/4
the power it really needed to do the system justice -- unless you wanted to
use Mode 2. Unfortunately, by that time, everyone wanted to have a
Spectrum/AtariST crossover (the Atari was yet another machine which didn't
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From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: Hi ho
I mean if you look at most of the SAM Coupé's software it was generally not
that great with only a few standout games that showed signs
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From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: Hi ho
I mean if you look at most of the SAM Coupé's software it was generally not
that great with only a few standout games that showed signs
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 18:43:35 -0800, Simon Cooke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I were a lad... it were all different. All green fields! And we only
programmed using 0's - we couldn't afford 1's.
Many true things said in jest. :-)
There are (were) some brands of eprom/prom/rom where you did
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From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: Hi ho
f-k-nose [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled:
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From: Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Sunday
Welcome back!
Colin has launched a new paper Sam Coupe magazine, you could check that out,
as well as several interesting new hardware bits...
Have you looked at his site yet?
Frans
Graham Goring wrote:
Hi ho
Blimey, I was looking around for old Sam Coup sites
and I
Title: RE: Hi ho
I've not, but I did hear that Colin was still producing hardware for the SAM. Are there many active users still? The only time I look at SAM stuff is via emulation. I'm thinking of compiling a disc of all the best e-tunes in one lump...
What's his website addy then?
Graham
Title: RE: Hi ho
His
site can be found at
http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
If you
have an actual Sam its worth digging it out and supporting it
:)
Adrian
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Graham
GoringSent: 03 January 2003 16
Title: RE: Hi ho
Ta'. I think my actual SAM is in Stratford Upon Avon at the moment (I'm in Manchester) and I'm not even sure if it works any more. Certainly the disc drive made odd whining sounds last time I tried using it...
I'm surprised that Colin's working on a FPS game for the SAM
Ta'. I think my actual SAM is in Stratford Upon Avon at the moment
(I'm in Manchester) and I'm not even sure if it works any more. Certainly
the disc drive made odd whining sounds last time I tried using it...
Well disk drives can be easily replaced
I'm surprised that Colin's working on
And remember, not every one is doing stuff for Sam for a financial gain.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Colin Piggot
Sent: 03 January 2003 16:50
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Hi ho
Ta'. I think my actual SAM is in Stratford Upon
Title: RE: Hi ho
Well disk drives can be easily replaced
I'll stick with my PC for now I think... Far more fun writing games on the PC than the SAM (I don't have to worry about optimising ;) ).
Oh don't sound so pessemistic :)
There is still life in the Sam world! In fact, over
Title: RE: Hi ho
And remember, not every one is doing stuff for Sam for a financial gain.
Well, I never did anything for FRED for money, it was all for the love of the machine on the SAM. Same thing with PC games, I only write 'em for fun and to remake Speccy classics.
Graham
I'll stick with my PC for now I think... Far more fun writing games on the
PC than the SAM (I don't have to worry about optimising ;) ).
Optimisation is the fun part! Getting down to the nitty gritty in assembler is a
great way to spend the night ;)
Colin
Quazar : Hardware, Software,
Title: RE: Hi ho
Optimisation is the fun part! Getting down to the nitty gritty in assembler
is a
great way to spend the night ;)
I'd rather concentrate on the game design part of it myself, for me that's the interesting bit about making games. :)
Graham
Title: RE: Hi ho
Dont
have to worry about optimising... Now where is the fun in not optimising, the
best bit of programming is watching little coloured timer bars flicker on the
screen, and counting t states :D
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Title: RE: Hi ho
Thats
the problem with PC games these days though- most dont have any design :)
when you dont have the power you have to have better design to
compensate.
*Start
Flame War*
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Graham
Title: RE: Hi ho
But
lets not get into the PC game war on the sam mailing list :D -
I
stillspend a good few hours playing stratosphere, bugs me that i cant get
very far, it just keeps calling me back, to try and get a little further
:D
A.
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I'd rather concentrate on the game design part of it myself, for me that's
the interesting bit about making games. :)
Well, that has to be the main part but on the other hand, saving a few
t-states isn't important when you have some 2GHz + monster to work with!
Colin
Quazar :
Right, you're clearly ALL mad. ;)
Ah, is it really that obvious? :)
Colin
Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam
Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
Issue Three of Sam Revival Magazine Out Now !
RE: Hi hoDont have to worry about optimising... Now where is the fun in not
optimising, the best bit of programming is watching little coloured timer
bars flicker on the screen, and counting t states :D
Ah yes... changing the palette to see how many lines the routines use very
Title: RE: Hi ho
thank
you, ill take that as a compliment :D
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Graham
GoringSent: 03 January 2003 17:05To:
'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'Subject: RE: Hi ho
Right, you're clearly
ALL mad
Yer, i miss that when im working on other platforms. So few machines you
can still do that on :D
A.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Colin Piggot
Sent: 03 January 2003 17:09
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Hi ho
RE: Hi hoDont have
Title: RE: Hi ho
When you don't have the power, you
have to limit your options and while that sometimes leads to better design, it
mostly leads to arse games. J
I mean if you look at most of the SAM Coupé's software it was generally not that great with
only a few standout games
However I'd argue that the problem with most PC games these days is
that they're either all me too products or they're infuriatingly
over-designed to the point that unless you're familiar with the genre,
they're impenetrable. These days games are generally far better put
together and designed
Title: RE: Hi ho
Well, that's the thing innit? Pentium processors are bastard-fast so it's the last thing you think of. Obviously coding on the SAM is far more of an artform than anything I do on the PC because every T-state (or multiple of 4, anyway :) ) counts.
The only assembler I did
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