Re: [SC-L] More on Cyber War

2010-06-18 Thread Dave Aronson
Don't forget about the millionaire cyber-terrorist, osama:/bin/login. ;-) -- Dave Aronson - Have Pun, Will Babble | Work: davearonson.com | /\ ASCII -+ Play: davearonson.net | \/ Ribbon "Specialization is for insects." | Li

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: You need an SSG

2009-12-22 Thread Dave Aronson
n) and maybe "does it do the right job" (validation), but should also ask (for security) "does it Do The Right Thing (whatever that may be) in the face of all forseeable types of attacks", and (for quality) "diDTRT(wtmb)itfoafto *errors*" (including those forced by an att

[SC-L] new job!

2009-10-17 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
probably a week or two. I will no longer be in a position related to security, but will still participate here, and in the broader secure coding community, as time allows -- and keep trying to spread the gospel. ;-) Thanks for all your help, Dave -- Dave Aronson - Have Pun, Will Bab

Re: [SC-L] Genotypes and Phenotypes (Gunnar Peterson)

2009-10-17 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
just fine under Linux (even without SE) or even Windows. -Dave -- Dave Aronson - Have Pun, Will Babble | Work: davearonson.com | /\ ASCII -+ Play: davearonson.net | \/ Ribbon "Specialization is for insects." | Life: dare2xl.com |

Re: [SC-L] Genotypes and Phenotypes (Gunnar Peterson)

2009-10-14 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
ext* time? Again, N times out of N+1, for almost as large values of N, no. -Dave -- Dave Aronson, software engineer or trainer for hire. Looking for job (or contract) in Washington DC area. See http://davearonson.com/ for resume & other info. ___ Secure

Re: [SC-L] Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?

2009-08-21 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
ng is a bit out of style... by 70 years or so) -Dave -- Dave Aronson, software engineer or trainer for hire. Looking for job (or contract) in Washington DC area. See http://davearonson.com/ for resume & other info. ___ Secure Coding mailing l

Re: [SC-L] What is the size of this list?

2009-08-19 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
true of any email list. I run a few where the same couple dozen or so names keep popping up in the From lines... out of thousands of members. -Dave -- Dave Aronson, software engineer or trainer for hire. Looking for job (or contract) in Washington DC area. See http://davearonson.c

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Java Code Snippets

2009-05-08 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
done in language X or Y. Usually, it's about what's *easier* to do in X or Y. Sometimes the security tradeoff is worth taking the hard way, but sometimes the choice is to the point of being at all practical or not. -Dave, making good progress on the job hunt, thanks in part to people here -

[SC-L] Certified Application Security Specialists

2009-04-01 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
Y'all- I think I've finally found the right certification for me! Check out the Institute for Certified Application Security Specialists, at http://www.asscert.com/ today! -Dave -- Dave Aronson: Have Pun, Will Babble | Work: davearonson.com

Re: [SC-L] more relevant certifications

2009-03-20 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
is will at least point me down some path. > Karen Mercedes Goertzel, CISSP ,,,and contributor and Coordinating Editor of the above report. :-) Thanks, Dave -- Dave Aronson: Have Pun, Will Babble | Work: davearonson.com | /\ ASCII | Play: davearonson.net |

[SC-L] more relevant certifications

2009-03-20 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
the teachers would say Thanks, Dave -- Dave Aronson: Have Pun, Will Babble | Work: davearonson.com | /\ ASCII | Play: davearonson.net | \/ Ribbon "Specialization is for insects."| Life: dare2xl.com | /\ Campaign -Robert A. Heinlein

Re: [SC-L] Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs

2009-03-19 Thread SC-L Reader Dave Aronson
oday in which I mention "PMPs, CISSPs, MCSEs, MDs, JDs, DDSes, and other assorted CAS -- that's Certified Alphabet Soup". -Dave -- Dave Aronson: Have Pun, Will Babble | Work: davearonson.com | /\ ASCII | Play: davearonson.net | \/ Ribbon "Speci

Re: [SC-L] InformIT: budgeting for software security

2008-04-12 Thread Dave Aronson
Jim Manico wrote: > Datacenters -> suck up 3% of word power Oh, that must explain why, as we become more and more dependent on companies with data centers, we find ourselves less and less able to actually communicate clearly with each other ;-) -Dave -- Dave Aronson "Specia

Re: [SC-L] Perspectives on Code Scanning

2007-06-07 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
rest > of folks here to get vendors to ignore developer specific licensing and > instead focus on enterprise concerns? Unfortunately, that often means that ANY license at all for it will be horrendously expensive, so that small shops are totally cut out. -Dave -- Dave Aronson "Speci

Re: [SC-L] FW: What's the next tech problem to be solved in softwaresecurity?

2007-06-07 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
quot;separate". They can "play nicely together" if they adhere to relevant standards for interoperability. Witness how you can develop a lot of software without leaving Emacs, or Eclipse. However, I don't think that's all that relevant to software security in particular

Re: [SC-L] Best practices for encrypting client-side data

2007-05-09 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
your protection, under the above scheme. Also, just how secure do you need it to be? Don't waste a thousand-dollar lock on a fifty-dollar bicycle. Is this data actually a tempting target for attackers who are clueful and resourceful (in both the senses of "clever" and

Re: [SC-L] How big is the market?

2007-04-24 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
- Java Developers Journal > - Insurance & Technology > - DMReview > - Intelligent Enterprise > - CIO > - Insurance Networking News I'd also suggest Software Development, and maybe Information Security. -Dave -- Dave Aronson "Specialization is for insects." -H

Re: [SC-L] What defines an InfoSec Professional?

2007-03-09 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > certifications such as CISSP whereby the exams that > prove you are a security professional talk all about > physical security and network security but really don't > address software development in any meaningful way. Perhaps what is needed is a separate certification

Re: [SC-L] Good Magazines and Books

2007-01-30 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
has BEEN REMOVED, so as to at least dampen the combinatorial explosion of replies to replies to replies ad infinitum. -Dave -- Dave Aronson "Specialization is for insects." -Heinlein Work: http://www.davearonson.com/ Play: http://www.davearonson.net/

Re: [SC-L] Compilers

2006-12-27 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
grammers (even so-called software engineers), let alone people in any position of authority to set such policies. :-( -Dave -- Dave Aronson "Specialization is for insects." -Heinlein Work: http://www.davearonson.com/ Play: http://www.davearonson.net/ ___

Re: [SC-L] On exploits, hubris, and software security

2006-11-03 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
ialites" and other such much more important news. Without this little bit of trivia, the sheeple will just ass-u-me that the demo-giver was, as the PTBs will insinuate, a malefactor in league with $ENEMY[$YEAR], and deserves to be shipped off to the Git-lag. -Dave -- Dave Aronson "Sp

Re: [SC-L] Coding with errors in mind - a solution?

2006-08-30 Thread Dave Aronson
ut more than security). Well, *most* people anyway. The avionics, medical, and suchlike fields are quite another story. > Bill Anderson Is this perchance the Bill Anderson who was my "great grandboss" until he left BAE for Cryptek? -- Dave Aronson http://www.davearonson.com/

Re: [SC-L] Dark Reading - Application and Perimeter Security - Hacking the Vista Kernel - Security News Analysis

2006-07-25 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
Pete Shanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm just wondering how flawed the implementation of the windows > paging model is that it would allow for this kind of breach. The > standard model I'm familiar with would simply flush the page from > memory, and would not keep a copy in the ex

[SC-L] bumper sticker slogan for secure software

2006-07-18 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
Paolo Perego [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "Software is like Titanic, pleople claim it was unsinkable. Securing is > providing it power steering" But power steering wouldn't have saved it. By the time the iceberg was spotted, there was not enough time to turn that large a boat. Perhaps

Re: [SC-L] (no subject)

2006-07-17 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
Jeremy Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "Software Security Keeps the Bad Guys Out" That's certainly one important aspect, but this slogan doesn't address issues such as staying up, producing correct output, etc. It also can blur the already much too fuzzy (in the public mind) line

Re: [SC-L] (no subject)

2006-07-17 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
Gary McGraw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I wrote a book with viega a few years ago called "building secure > software"... Yes, John gave us all copies. Didn't bother to get it autographed though. :-) > it was not about that company (at all). It certainly was not about the horribly br

[SC-L] bumper sticker slogan for secure software

2006-07-17 Thread SC-L Subscriber Dave Aronson
mikeiscool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The point remains though: trimming this down into a friendly little > phrase is, IMCO, useless. One of the common problems in trying to persuade the masses of ANYTHING, be it the importance of secure software, the factual or moral correctness of y

Re: [SC-L] "Bumper sticker" definition of secure software

2006-07-16 Thread Dave Aronson
Goertzel Karen wrote: > Secure software is software that remains dependable despite efforts > to compromise its dependability. If you really want to compress that to bumper-sticker size, how about "Secure Software: Does what it's meant to. Period." This encompasses both "can't be forced NOT

Re: [SC-L] Spot the bug

2005-07-21 Thread Dave Aronson
Christopher Canova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems to me that they may be shifting from a > Deploy-first-ask-questions-later tactic to a > Code-it-right-before-its-out-the-door. They always did "code it right before it's out the door". It's just a question of where you put the comma.

Re: [SC-L] Spot the bug

2005-07-21 Thread Dave Aronson
ljknews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The overarching bug seems to be the assertion that there is only one > bug, since those offering comments found two right off. What did you expect from MS? > The less excusable of the two bugs appears at first glance to be an > out of bounds reference to

Re: [SC-L] Credentials for Application use

2005-05-13 Thread Dave Aronson
"Gizmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the efficacy of the encryption is of some question. > Basically, it keeps honest people honest. Sounds a little better than I thought, but I'd still be worried about the owner name leaking into less honest hands. > 1) The app is architected around the Bt

Re: [SC-L] Credentials for Application use

2005-05-12 Thread Dave Aronson
"Gizmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a similar situation in one of my applications. The > customer wishes to secure the database. Since we use a Btrieve > database, the only way to do > this is be setting an owner name on the DB, and then > encrypting using the owner name as the pass

Re: [SC-L] Why Software Will Continue to Be Vulnerable

2005-05-01 Thread Dave Aronson
Crispin Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ISPs could also position a non-restricted account as an "expert" > account and charge extra for it. That already happens in many cases, except they call it a "business class" account. The only one I've heard called some kind of "expert" account is t

Re: [SC-L] Re: Application Insecurity --- Who is at Fault?

2005-04-11 Thread Dave Aronson
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OT re Cliff Stoll (was Re: [SC-L] Top security papers)

2004-08-11 Thread Dave Aronson
Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > _Cuckoo's_Egg_, Clifford Stall. > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671726889/102-7543362- >2026532?v=glance > > [Ed. That's Cliff Stoll, not Stall. Great book, though -- IMHO! > KRvW] For more on what Cliff's been up to lately, see: ht

Re: [SC-L] Programming languages -- the "third rail" of secure coding

2004-07-20 Thread Dave Aronson
"Michael S Hines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been compiling a list of programming languages.. You missed FORTRAN, ICON, REXX, SNOBOL, and the assorted OS-based shell scripting languages (bash/csh/ksh/etc., VMS DCL, DOS .bat, etc.). I've heard of JOVIAL, which I *think* is a programming

Re: [SC-L] Missing the point?

2004-04-20 Thread Dave Aronson
On Tue April 20 2004 12:34, Michael A. Davis wrote: > It is not the source code that is the > problem -- it is the developer. The proof of the developer's grokking of secure coding, is in the code. -- Dave Aronson, Senior Software Engineer, Secure Software Inc. Email me at: work

Re: [SC-L] User Education Tool?

2004-03-05 Thread Dave Aronson
On Thu March 4 2004 17:45, Andreas Saurwein wrote: > At 4/3/2004 18:16 Thursday, Dave Aronson wrote: > > Either way (especially if the manual forwarding is done with the > > help of pulling up the contact list), you can bet some jackass > > will attach a malicious payloa

Re: [SC-L] User Education Tool?

2004-03-04 Thread Dave Aronson
ling his attention to how incredibly stupid he has just been, and you've got something. B-) -- Dave Aronson, Senior Software Engineer, Secure Software Inc. Email me at: work (D0T) 2004 (@T) dja (D0T) mailme (D0T) org (Opinions above NOT those of securesw.com unless so stated!) WE'RE HIRING developers, auditors, and VP of Prof. Services.

Humor: Re: [SC-L] Any software security news from the RSA conference?

2004-02-27 Thread Dave Aronson
On Thu February 26 2004 19:32, Mark Curphey quoted: > According to Gordon, if developers could reduce the error and > vulnerability rate by a factor of 10, it would "probably eliminate > something like 90 percent of the current security threats and > vulnerabilities. This factoid brought to y

Administrivia: Registration require sites (was Re: [SC-L] Secured Coding)

2004-02-13 Thread Dave Aronson
ease at least warn us about the registration requirement. It would certainly be appreciated. KRvW] -- Dave Aronson, Senior Software Engineer, Secure Software Inc. Email me at: work (D0T) 2004 (@T) dja (D0T) mailme (D0T) org (Opinions above NOT those of securesw.com unless so stated!) WE'RE HIRING developers, auditors, and VP of Prof. Services.