At 2:25 PM +0930 8/2/04, Nick Lothian wrote:
>What features make Ada safer than Java/C#? (I only have limited experience
>with Ada but from memory there was nothing that jumps out at me as something
>that Java lacks)
Quoting from Tucker Taft in
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=FD85Lq.Hyp.0.-s%4
> >Java/C#: Reasonably safe (both provide protection against
> buffer overflows,
> >are type safe and provide built-in security mechanisms)
> >FORTRAN/COBOL: Don't know - my impression is that COBOL is
> fairly safe
> >Scripting Languages: Depends on the language. Lack of type
> safety can be a
At 1:03 PM +0930 8/1/04, Nick Lothian wrote:
>> >IMHO, though, any such effort is pointless. The reality is
>> that we're going
>> >to be stuck with C/C++, Java, C#, FORTRAN, COBOL, and various
>> >interpreted/scripting languages for a very long time.
>What are peoples opinions of the language
Jeremy Epstein wrote:
Kevin Wall pointed to http://www2.latech.edu/~acm/HelloWorld.shtml as a good
source point; several of the languages I programmed in aren't listed (e.g.,
PL/360, which in many respects was to the IBM 360 as C was to the PDP/11).
Throughout the 1970s (and maybe even 1980s) a res
(e.g. nonconformant) input.
Mark Rockman
MDRSESCO LLC
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Concur this is a 'rabbit trail' not worth pursuing.
For those who assisted with the list, thank you.
Otherwise, I suggest we return to our regularly scheduled program at this
time.
Mike Hines
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At 1:22 AM -0700 7/21/04, Crispin Cowan wrote:
I don't understand the purpose of this list. If it is to list all
programming languages, that is hopeless, as there are thousands of
programming languages. If it is to list all programming languages
with security ambitions, then I'm confused, as cle
Michael S Hines wrote:
I've been compiling a list of programming languages.. Some of which were
developed to 'solve' the insecure programming problem. I don't think we've
made it yet.
If you want a list of all programming languages (or at least around 2500 of
them), try this page:
http://people
I don't understand the purpose of this list. If it is to list all
programming languages, that is hopeless, as there are thousands of
programming languages. If it is to list all programming languages with
security ambitions, then I'm confused, as clearly not all of the
languages listed were inte
> At 8:17 AM -0500 7/20/04, Michael S Hines wrote:
> >I've been compiling a list of programming languages.. Some of which were
> >developed to 'solve' the insecure programming problem. I don't think we've
> >made it yet.
> >My list -- (feel free to add to it).
And then there are languages such
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> "Michael S Hines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I've been compiling a list o
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> of secure
> coding
der Mouse wrote...
[Michael Hines wrote]
>> I've been compiling a list of programming languages.. [...]
>> My list -- (feel free to add to it).
>
> 42. BCPL
> 43. sh
[snip]
> 50. Machine code
>
> I'd also point out that if it's languages you're trying to list,
> JavaScript arguably should not ha
> I'd also point out that if it's languages you're trying to list,
> JavaScript arguably should not have a separate entry from Java
Yes it should - they are substantially different languages, even if we look
at them only syntactically. You could argue that Javascript should be listed
as ECMAScri
> I've been compiling a list of programming languages.. [...]
> My list -- (feel free to add to it).
42. BCPL
43. sh
43. awk
44. FORTRAN
45. TeX
46. Metafont
47. PostScript
48. MUF
49. BLISS
50. Machine code
I'd also point out that if it's languages you're trying to list,
JavaScript arguably sho
At 8:17 AM -0500 7/20/04, Michael S Hines wrote:
>I've been compiling a list of programming languages.. Some of which were
>developed to 'solve' the insecure programming problem. I don't think we've
>made it yet.
>
>Perhaps it's a personnel problem, not a technology problem?
>
>My list -- (feel
"Michael S Hines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been compiling a list of programming languages..
You missed FORTRAN, ICON, REXX, SNOBOL, and the assorted OS-based shell
scripting languages (bash/csh/ksh/etc., VMS DCL, DOS .bat, etc.). I've
heard of JOVIAL, which I *think* is a programming
I've been compiling a list of programming languages.. Some of which were
developed to 'solve' the insecure programming problem. I don't think we've
made it yet.
Perhaps it's a personnel problem, not a technology problem?
My list -- (feel free to add to it).
1. Assembler
2. C/C++
3. Pascal
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