To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?
Those are the two women I was referencing, thanks, I'd forgotten Duella's name.
Could only remember her being called Dee. I used to listen to Moore's BSG
podcast. It was really good: every week
where people of color,
non-Christians, gays, etc., are demanding more of a voice.
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG
, 2010 11:07 PM
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I was thinking the same thing a bit ago, Tracey, while making myself a
milk shake (hey, it's my alcohol! Sugar free, of course!) I kept wondering
how BSG/Caprica can be so
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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I like said, he reads like one of those racists who see
problem to
believing that he does
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I think
08, 2010 4:16 AM
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I think the with the writers strike happening around that time frame they
decided to progress things a bit. But you are correct, they could have
showed their relationship
I feel the same way towards all of those end of the world enthusiasts:
yes, the world is being destroyed--*THEIR* world!
:)
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The storylines were shot before they got to that point in time is what
. Indians, Asians, and Latinos, seem to get better treatment
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One thing that is overlooked with the show was the additional footage that was
made
it.
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One thing that is overlooked with the show
these factoids seem to more likely support it.
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One thing
Something odd strikes me about the BSG/Caprica worlds: no black men in
significant positions. I missed the last couple years of BSG, but I remember
noting the curious lack of black men in anything but background roles. I think
there was one reporter on that ship were political events were held,
One of the 12 was black. He was an important character in the first 2
seasons, and the Plan. There was also a minor character that had been
captured and escaped, but that didn't go anywhere. There were also several
that were pilots on the transports.
Also there were a couple on the other
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One of the 12 was black. He was an important character in the first 2 seasons,
and the Plan
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 12:01 PM
Ah, but that's my point
to Scarlet
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 7
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One of the 12 was black. He was an important character in the first 2
seasons, and the Plan. There was also a minor character that had been
captured
: Sunday, February 07, 2010 10:02 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?
Ah, but that's my point: none of them had pivotal roles or were memorable. You
had to refresh my memory that one of the 12 was black, and I do remember
singing to Scarlet
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday
Adrianne, I write Afrocentric from my protagonists' standpoint, but my
supporting characters are of all races, drawing from my own past. In defense of
Caucasian writers, they may not be able to bridge that divide for the same
reason. There simply may be no one of color in their circle for them
, 2010 5:06 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?
I was on a panel at a scifi/fantasy con called Women in Science Fiction
and as a panelist, this is pretty much what I concluded/begged/declared.
Women and minorities both draw
I think Caucasian writers never think of people of color unless they
socialize with them. How else do we end up with tv shows like Seinfeld and
Friends? NYC is extremely diverse and yet you have two examples of a show
where even the extras are 98% white.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Martin
Frankly, that both scares and appalls me. The way I see it, if I can write
about men I can write about other people, too. Heck, I can write about the
Victorian period. I have no experience with the Victorian period, right?
Just do the appropriate research.
In one of my manuscripts I have no
Actually I'd chalk it up to fear. Fear of doing something
un-PC/racist/inaccurate in the process and get slammed for it. And it's
really a shame. Unfortunately race is such a loaded issue people would
rather avoid it than tackle it head on.
As far as what I'm working on at present, here's a good
I think that its not that they are afraid of getting heat from doing
something wrong but it just never dawn on them to write anything other than
what they already know. Basically, a white male writes about white males, a
white woman writes about white women. There are exceptions (Tarantino, Law
] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?
I think that its not that they are afraid of getting heat from doing something
wrong but it just never dawn on them to write anything other than what they
already know. Basically, a white male writes about white males, a white woman
writes about white women
I think I'm slightly braver than most writers, and certainly seeking to
broaden my palette. I actually do write about men and those all over the
GLBT spectrum. I just take it from the standpoint that they're people like
any other person and don't write about stereotypes.
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?
There probably should have been a major black male, but the series was
obviously skewed more towards the power of women. There were several women of
color in major roles.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Keith Johnson
, 2010 6:34:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?
The one was little more than an extra. Unlike every other cylon, he had no
storylines devoted to his character and in at least two episodes that he
appeared in, he did not even
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The one was little more than an extra. Unlike every other cylon, he had no
storylines devoted to his character and in at least two episodes that he
appeared
, 2010 8:06:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?
I was on a panel at a scifi/fantasy con called Women in Science Fiction and
as a panelist, this is pretty much what I concluded/begged/declared.
Women and minorities both draw
, 2010 8:15:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Caprica/BSG -- Where the Brothers At?
I lot of writers used to be on the list way back when. Many of them do not
related to TV and even film and told me they felt out of sorts. So I started a
literature groups
more of
a voice.
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I think that its
, comfortable America he
grew up in, and that terrifies him.
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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the other group, the other
group is essentially dead.
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I know Moore set trends with Sisco on DS9 with regards to Blacks men having
power on TV, but I’ve begun to think that was a fluke resulting from him
inheriting Sisco. I think he has some issues
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I lot of writers used to be on the list way back when. Many of them do not
related to TV and even film and told me they felt out of sorts. So I
does
with Blacks, in my view.
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Of Keith Johnson
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I was thinking the same
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Sent: Monday, February 8, 2010 2:06:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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just had this argument with friends about the tea p0arty movement .W hen see
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WARNING SPOILERS BELOW
I remember two black women. Duella and the religious woman. The religious woman
was killed off before anything could
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