RE: [scifinoir2] Enterprise episode Terra Prime
Title: Message Right, he appeared in the OS episode "The Savage Curtain", where beings on a planet of lava recreate figures from history that represent good and evil. They then make the two sides fight. The aliens had no real concept of good and evil, and wanted to know which was stronger and how they differed. On the "good" team were Kirk, Spock, Surak (the father of Vulcan Logic), and Abraham Lincoln! The "evil" gang included father of the Klingon Empire Kahless, Genghis Khan, some creepy-looking alien lady who had experimented on her people, and Colonel Green, who had led agenocidal campaign on Earth. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AstromancerSent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 01:44To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Enterprise" episode "Terra Prime" Um...Who Is Colonel Green? OhFrom TOS?Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somewhere, on some rogue website, I recall spotting a blurb spoiler about "Enterprise" and the final eps that suggested that Weller would be playing Colonel Green. I was all ready for that, figuring how great Green's xenophobic actions would play out against Starfleet's attempts to establish the Federation. One more letdown in a long string of letdowns...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I wish I could say I liked the second episode better, but nope. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it just didn't move me. It seemed at once rushed, unengaging, and dull. Somehow Peter Weller's villainous xenophobe failed to resonate, coming off more as an irritant bigot than a threat to galactic peace. Certainly he didn't paint the portrait of a man who'dhoped to be mentioned in the same breath as the infamous Colonel Green. The whole plot device with him taking over the Mars Virtiron Array as a terroristic threat wasn't very exciting either. The sub-standard plot and action made me realize that the focus was shifted to the wrong thing. Here we had an upcoming major peace conference, Terra Prime's threatening to destroy Starfleet Command, yet there was very little coverage of things on Earth, on the reactions of the delegates, media coverage of the impending disaster. Rather than time spent on the posturing Weller and his bald, black racist flunkies, or on sub-standard FX, I'd like to have seen more focus on Earth itself. It would have been nice to see the delegates as they wrestled with the significance of the still-healthy racist element on Earth. I still have issues with the Black racist sidekicks used as an ironic commentary. The one thing that did resonate was the storyline around Elizabeth, Trip and T'Pol's baby. To see him crying at the end, T'Pol's look and anguish, and their holding hands--well, that was powerful. The comment that the delegates wanted to attend her ceremony was a nice touch too. Overall I'd just rate it as an average show that again reminded me of a season one episode. "Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Do you Yahoo!?Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. Do you Yahoo!?Make Yahoo! your home page Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Baywatch Nights RE: [scifinoir2] Enterprise episode Demons--minor spoilers
Title: Message I know its crazy, after they switched from crime to paranormal I liked Baywatch Nights and started to watch it every week.. Tracey -Original Message- Hey, you didn't comment on "Baywatch Nights". Ever seen it? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:45To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] "Enterprise" episode "Demons"--minor spoilers I'll figure out a due penance for my sin later. The only reason I thought of it was because I was looking forward in time (so to speak), peeking at the upcoming eps of DS9. "Trials and Tribble-ations" is due to air next week, and I couldn't help but think about those two bone-dry wits from temporal Investigations who had to debrief Sisko. But think of it this way. If it ever does come to pass, I've got the proof right here that'll get me a chunk of the franchise...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nooo! Why'd you have to say it out loud? Now someone's gonna start developing it. I envision a bunch of young hard bodies--blonde women with fake boobs, dudes with surgically-carved abs and impossibly white teeth--jumping through time trying to right the wrongs created by Kirk and other offenders. Sooner or later they'll have to create a nemesis for the team, and then the show will degenerate into a catch-him-if-you-can scenario. I imagine something on the level of "Baywatch Nights". -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 19:50To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] "Enterprise" episode "Demons"--minor spoilers I had the most horrible thought the other night, after reading some of my backlog of e-mails, in particular the one about Shatner pitching the Starfleet Academy concept to Paramount. An idea that BB would DROOL over. Are you ready? Starfleet Temporal Investigations (shoot me NOW, for even MENTIONING it).Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wasn't bad, just weak, more like a Season one ep. Please--no more time travel :( -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 14:51To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] "Enterprise" episode "Demons"--minor spoilers I'm still lagging in reading that thread, so pardon my inexactitude. As for the show, it wasn't bad. Didn't give me the "wow" that most of Coto's other stories have this season, but I enjoyed it. I'm almost afraid to see how the matter of how the baby is Trip's and T'Pol's. (BB, the Return of the Convoluted, UnnecessaryTime Travel Story?) As for the bright idea of sending a Vulcan undercover into a racist underground netowrk- HUNH?Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I guess you could say it's progress that they put Travis witha white woman in fairly intimate situations too (real kissing, not the quick peck usually shown with Black men and white women). But I'm not as impressed with interracial couples as I am with good Black couples. That was indeed the focus of that thread you mentioned, where there was discussion about things such as why Will Smith lets the studios pair him with Latinas instead of fighting for a Black-on-Black love story. We need to get our own couples to be seen in a more positive light before we branch out to the others. By the way, did you see the show? Thoughts? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 08:47To:
RE: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deaths
It was "El Cid".Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed! Remember the movie where he died before a great battle, but had his body propped up on his horse, so his corpse could inspire and lead his men into battle? Was that "El Cid"? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AstromancerSent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 01:46To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deaths YeahCharlton's great 'DeMille-esque' death scenes...serious ham sanwichesKeith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jackson doesn't die nearly as much as the great Charleston Heston, who has more melodramatic death scenes than anybody I know of. Remember "Beneath the Planet of the Apes"? Death. "The Omega Man"? Died, and not just died, but if you saw that movie, he died in a fountain, his blood pooled at his feet, arms and legs outstretched, in nothing so much as a Crucifix-like figure. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly WrightSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:27To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deathsDoesn't it seem like Samuel L. Jackson is always dying in his movies?As we prepare for his final lightsaber battle in ''Star Wars: EpisodeIII,'' we review his best cinematic swan songs.http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1060425_1_0_,00.html1) Star Wars: Episode III (2005)THE STIFF Mace Windu, Jedi knightCAUSE OF DEATH We're going to go out on a limb here and guess thatit's death by lightsaber.2) Goodfellas (1990)THE STIFF Stacks Edwards, thief and Mob associateCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot3) Jungle Fever (1991)THE STIFF Gator Purify, homeless crackheadCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot4) Jurassic Park (1993)THE STIFF Ray Arnold, a technician at the dinosaur preserveCAUSE OF DEATH Velociraptor5) Hard Eight (1996)THE STIFF Jimmy, a Reno casino security guardCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot6) 187 (1997)THE STIFF Trevor Garfield, high school science teacherCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot7) Jackie Brown (1997)THE STIFF Ordell Robbie, arms dealerCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot8) Deep Blue Sea (1999)THE STIFF Russell Franklin, tycoon and adventurerCAUSE OF DEATH: Shark attack9) Basic (2003)THE STIFF Sgt. Nathan West, Army Ranger drill sergeantCAUSE OF DEATH Gunshot, grenade, stabbing depending on whom youbelieve. As viewers learn in one of the plot's twists-upon-twists,there's a reason all these death scenes appear a little far-fetchedand over-the-top.10) Kill Bill Vol. 2 (2004)THE STIFF Rufus, a musicianCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot__The Black Prince. The Black Church. A State of Mind.http://www.theworldebon.com Yahoo! Mail MobileTake Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. "Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
No, but I'll start. You may find it hard to believe, but most of these things come right off the top of my head.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You need to keep a list of cool one-liners and tag lines. That "Pretty boys" thing is great. Be perfect in a review, or as a title for a review. do you keep a list of neat sayings like that?
-Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:52To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Yep, none other than Rex "You Take My Breath Away" Smith (even after twenty-plus years, that song's worth a laugh). I won't try to defend Viper. I just liked it. As for "Stingray", the closest to an ending I remember was an ep in which his past came back to almost bite him on the can. He almost had to give up his "favor-for-a-favor" gig, if not for one of his favors being a Government big-wig who stepped in long enough to let him slip away. Therewere two more eps before the show ended, if I remember right. Oh, and "Riptide"! Two pretty boys who would've been LOST without a geek. The way the world REALLY works.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Street Hawk's star was former pop idol and broadway star ("Pirates of Penzance") Rex Smith, wasn't it? I never got Viper. Seemed kinda low-rent to me. Stingray was definitely cool. I remember one show when the star was arrested and printed. His prints were sent off for matching and he kept telling the arresting officer "You're wasting your time". The officer felt he had the guy, until the results came back: a fax showing a young Black man! Never did figure out his story, and how did the show end?
Gotta tell you, that was another Stephen J. Cannell show, and he had a long run of good ones, from 21 Jump Street to Riptide to Hunter to (yes, even) A-Team.
-Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 19:47To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Anything BUT. Street Hawk didn't do much for me, but Stingray was even cooler to me than The Equalizer, which I loved. Possibly the idea that Stingray might have some obscure government connection held some interest for a budding conspiracy theorist. Viper, I hadevery epon video, got rid of them only because I began to convert my video collection to DVD and ran into a little thing called unemployment a few weeks in.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now what do you have against the story of a man and his car? At least they got rid of KITT's voice and the cheesy '80s music done by anyone but the original artists (didn't they? I never watched the Knight Rider redux series). As for men and their vehicles, did you like Street Hawk, Stingray, or Viper?
-Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 15:02To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
That it was. I came to like "Vanishing Son" more than any of the sci-fi shows. "TekWar" had me for all of a month, and let's not discuss "Knight Rider" in ANY incarnation. "The story of a car and his man."Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I watched Time Trax maybe twice, but never got into it, and I think it was gone before I got around to trying.Was it part of theso-called "Action Pack" that came out a few years ago? Remember that? It was a block of shows that would air together, including "Vanishing Son" (the martial arts themed show starring Russell Wong), "Knight Rider: 2000", "Hercules", "TekWar", "Xena", and maybe a few others. It was shows that I think were from Universal. At any rate, the Action Pack music would play and they'd show scenes from all the above shows. Usually it'd air on Saturdays and Sundays, and there'd be 2 -3 hours of series in the group. Even after the other shows were all cancelled, Hercules and Xena would still often be introduced as part of the Action Pack. I used to love that gimmick even if all the shows weren't that great. It was just the ability to watch a block of scifi on Saturday
afternoons that I loved...
-Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 11:09To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
"Hard Time on Planet Earth". How CAN anyone forget that? What did you think about "Time Trax", if I haven't asked before? I liked "Space:1999" as well, but the budding scientist in me couldn't quite get around the idea of the Moon being blown out of Earth orbit because of excess nuclear waste (a gift of the anti-nuke lobby, I'll assume). "Wolf", I don't remember at all. Early to mid-90s, I was chin deep in work. Had a brand-new TV, and I think I turned it on four times in six years.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RE: [scifinoir2] Enterprise episode Demons--minor spoilers
Only a few times, when it aired late in the evening. I tended to avoid it, because of the "Baywatch" part of the title (I think I'm the only personI know who wasn't ga-ga for that show). I did watch that reunion movie they did a while back, and knew enough of the backstory to laugh right off the bat when I realized that the woman Mitch was marrying was a dead ringer for the woman he was seeing during the series who died.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny! I need to set my VCR to record TNG/DS9 during the day. The rare times I get to work from home have been awesome. If only the people at work knew I was sitting in my easy chair watching Trek while resetting their passwords! "Triails and Tribble-ations" is one of the best Trek shows ever--of any series. Can't wait for that one. Hey, you didn't comment on "Baywatch Nights". Ever seen it? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:45To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] "Enterprise" episode "Demons"--minor spoilers I'll figure out a due penance for my sin later. The only reason I thought of it was because I was looking forward in time (so to speak), peeking at the upcoming eps of DS9. "Trials and Tribble-ations" is due to air next week, and I couldn't help but think about those two bone-dry wits from temporal Investigations who had to debrief Sisko. But think of it this way. If it ever does come to pass, I've got the proof right here that'll get me a chunk of the franchise...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nooo! Why'd you have to say it out loud? Now someone's gonna start developing it. I envision a bunch of young hard bodies--blonde women with fake boobs, dudes with surgically-carved abs and impossibly white teeth--jumping through time trying to right the wrongs created by Kirk and other offenders. Sooner or later they'll have to create a nemesis for the team, and then the show will degenerate into a catch-him-if-you-can scenario. I imagine something on the level of "Baywatch Nights". -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 19:50To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] "Enterprise" episode "Demons"--minor spoilers I had the most horrible thought the other night, after reading some of my backlog of e-mails, in particular the one about Shatner pitching the Starfleet Academy concept to Paramount. An idea that BB would DROOL over. Are you ready? Starfleet Temporal Investigations (shoot me NOW, for even MENTIONING it).Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wasn't bad, just weak, more like a Season one ep. Please--no more time travel :( -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 14:51To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] "Enterprise" episode "Demons"--minor spoilers I'm still lagging in reading that thread, so pardon my inexactitude. As for the show, it wasn't bad. Didn't give me the "wow" that most of Coto's other stories have this season, but I enjoyed it. I'm almost afraid to see how the matter of how the baby is Trip's and T'Pol's. (BB, the Return of the Convoluted, UnnecessaryTime Travel Story?) As for the bright idea of sending a Vulcan undercover into a racist underground netowrk- HUNH?Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I guess you could say it's progress that they put Travis witha white woman in fairly intimate situations too (real kissing, not the quick peck usually shown with Black men and white women). But I'm not as impressed with interracial couples as I am with good Black couples. That was indeed the focus of that thread you mentioned, where there was discussion about things such as why Will Smith lets the studios pair him with Latinas instead of fighting for a Black-on-Black love story. We need to get our own couples to be seen in a more positive light before we branch out to the others. By the way, did you see the show? Thoughts? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 08:47To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Enterprise" episode "Demons"--minor spoilers The one thing that struck me about this ep hearkens back to a thread we had running a bit back, about Blacks, Whites and love, how Black chars were rarely paired with Black love interests. I know, this is an offshoot of Roddenberry's vision, in which the world knows no color, but COME ON!Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor spoilers... What did y'all think about tonight's show? I wasn't too impressed. For some reason the pacing seemed rushed, as if the script had been thrown together. I mean, in about five minutes they go from the discovery of Tripp and T'Pol's baby to
RE: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deaths
Remember, Chuck WAS Moses...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jackson doesn't die nearly as much as the great Charleston Heston, who has more melodramatic death scenes than anybody I know of. Remember "Beneath the Planet of the Apes"? Death. "The Omega Man"? Died, and not just died, but if you saw that movie, he died in a fountain, his blood pooled at his feet, arms and legs outstretched, in nothing so much as a Crucifix-like figure. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly WrightSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:27To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deathsDoesn't it seem like Samuel L. Jackson is always dying in his movies?As we prepare for his final lightsaber battle in ''Star Wars: EpisodeIII,'' we review his best cinematic swan songs.http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1060425_1_0_,00.html1) Star Wars: Episode III (2005)THE STIFF Mace Windu, Jedi knightCAUSE OF DEATH We're going to go out on a limb here and guess thatit's death by lightsaber.2) Goodfellas (1990)THE STIFF Stacks Edwards, thief and Mob associateCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot3) Jungle Fever (1991)THE STIFF Gator Purify, homeless crackheadCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot4) Jurassic Park (1993)THE STIFF Ray Arnold, a technician at the dinosaur preserveCAUSE OF DEATH Velociraptor5) Hard Eight (1996)THE STIFF Jimmy, a Reno casino security guardCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot6) 187 (1997)THE STIFF Trevor Garfield, high school science teacherCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot7) Jackie Brown (1997)THE STIFF Ordell Robbie, arms dealerCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot8) Deep Blue Sea (1999)THE STIFF Russell Franklin, tycoon and adventurerCAUSE OF DEATH: Shark attack9) Basic (2003)THE STIFF Sgt. Nathan West, Army Ranger drill sergeantCAUSE OF DEATH Gunshot, grenade, stabbing depending on whom youbelieve. As viewers learn in one of the plot's twists-upon-twists,there's a reason all these death scenes appear a little far-fetchedand over-the-top.10) Kill Bill Vol. 2 (2004)THE STIFF Rufus, a musicianCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot__The Black Prince. The Black Church. A State of Mind.http://www.theworldebon.com"Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] NYTimes.com: Rebuffing Bush, 132 Mayors Embrace Kyoto Rules
Glad no end to read this. Somebody out there is willing to stand up and be visibly opposed to this- PERSON, to challenge his biased viewpoint.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a start! Some folks are waking up! NATIONAL | May 14, 2005 Rebuffing Bush, 132 Mayors Embrace Kyoto Rules By ELI SANDERS Greg Nickels of Seattle and 131 other likeminded mayors have joined a bipartisan coalition to fight global warming on the local level. 1. Guest Columnist: Start a War, No Money Down! 2. College Libraries Set Aside Books in a Digital Age 3. Rebuffing Bush, 132 Mayors Embrace Kyoto Rules 4. Op-Ed Columnist: Where Have You Gone, Joe DiMaggio? 5. Editorial: Separation of Church and Air Force » Go to Complete List Advertisement /- E-mail Sponsored by Fox Searchlight Pictures \WILL FERRELL stars in MELINDA MELINDA - IN THEATERS NOW MELINDA AND MELINDA combines romantic comedy and drama in a way that WOODY ALLEN, unique among filmmakers, likes to contrast. Set in beautiful Manhattan, the film chronicles a pair of crises that give great reign to the funny and serious talents of Chiwetel Ejiofor, Will Ferrell, Jonny Lee Miller, Radha Mitchell, Amanda Peet, Chloë Sevigny and Wallace Shawn. Watch the trailer now at: http://www.foxsearchlight.com/melindaandmelinda/index_nyt.html Do you love NY? Get the insiders guide to where to stay, what to do and where to eat. Go to www.nytimes.com/travel for your NYC Guide now. Click here. Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company | Privacy Policy "Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] NYTimes.com: Attention: Deficit Disorder
Doubtful.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sensible and practical - willany movers and shakers heed these words? OPINION | May 13, 2005 Op-Ed Contributor: Attention: Deficit Disorder By ROBERT E. RUBIN How to return the United States to fiscal sanity and economic health. 1. Guest Columnist: Start a War, No Money Down! 2. College Libraries Set Aside Books in a Digital Age 3. Rebuffing Bush, 132 Mayors Embrace Kyoto Rules 4. Op-Ed Columnist: Where Have You Gone, Joe DiMaggio? 5. Op-Ed Columnist: Always Low Wages. Always. » Go to Complete List Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company | Privacy Policy "Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [scifinoir2] Enterprise finale was horrible! (Spoilers)
Speak for yourself, Tracey."Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe he is a egomaniac talentless writer wannabe hack who is afraid to let those with talent write the scripts. I'm not bitter Tracey -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Keith JohnsonSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:16 AMTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] Enterprise finale was horrible! (Spoilers) Sure, thanks. Give me today to clean it up a bit. My posts here tend to be a bit stream-of-consciousness. It definitely had the weak feeling of BB stuff from the first season. That's why I'm stunned they ran with it. What did he do, give up? Run out of steam? It deserved better than some half-ass script fetched from a drawer whose tone completely jarred with the recent excellence. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 08:47To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] Enterprise finale was horrible! (Spoilers) Can we post this review on the new site? It is right on point. But you should not be surprised. The actress that plays T'Pol said she hated it and Berman said he wrote it a few years ago.It was very Bermanesque. How they can keep him in charge of the franchise is beyond me. Tracey -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Keith JohnsonSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 1:32 AMTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Enterprise finale was horrible! (Spoilers) First an intro statement, then onto specific impresions. No spoilers yet... I expected to come to the end of the Star Trek universe on TV with sadness and grief. For three decades I've watched everything Trek. I have the movies on DVD, several novels (including of the animated series), Tech Manuals and Klingon language labs on CD. I've never gone a year since the '70s without enjoying some Trek, whether reruns or first runs of the four latest series. I have seen every movie on opening weekend, and have supported all of them--even dreck like "The Final Frontier"--in light of the greater need to keep The Franchise running. Even when I left for a while when Voyager failed to hold my attention, I came back, like a son too long gone from his family. And now, even now, I have supported this last show, "Enterprise", when millions of fans have abandoned it in disgust and disappointment. But, fool that I am, I stayed the course. I am in all ways and definitions of the word, a "Trekkie" (*NEVER* a trying-to-appeal-to-the-mainstream "Trekker"!) It's good to say that after three-and-a-half years of mostly sub-par episodes, my patience and loyalty were rewarded with very good episodes in this last season. All that is, except for tonight... Now the spoilers and the rant... WTF? I really, really, *REALLY* thought I was looking at a joke show tonight. Whose freakin' idea was it to use Riker and Troi in this final show? They wasted time that would have been better spent on plot development. What was the logic in Riker having to participate in a holo recreation of Enterprise's last mission. What, he had to go back two hundred years to get inspiration for how to tell some deep, dark secret to Picard? i thought everything to be known about the Pegasus Incident had been revealed back on the TNG? Even if not,again Isay, why did he have to relive Enterprise history in order to 'fess up? That was so weak it was laughable. I kept expecting a more compelling justification for Riker and Troi to be there, but nope.No offense against the actors, but the show was so weak I actually had time to notice that Marina Sirtis' British accent was way more pronounced than it was on TNG. I guess she hasn't had much experience hiding it in recent years. Examining Riker, note he's still a first officer on Enterprise, and, from the way he and Troi acted, they're not married yet. As the movies clearly established Riker and Troi are married and Will has his own command. That means they went back in time (in terms of TNG) to craft this tale?? Again, why? Why bring up a relatively obscure time like the Pegasus incident as a way to say farewell to Enterprise? I like Frakes and Sirtis, but there appearance added nothing here. Crap!Q would have been more welcome. Now, on to Archer and company. Speaking of weak, how lame was it to bring backShran for this contrived rescue mission?He justhappens to show up while Archer's on the way to Earth, and needs help with a certain-death rescue of his daughter? If I weren't so dismayed at the horrible writing I'd have been laughing my ass off at the ludicrous plot. Further, it seems to me a bunch of folks were sitting around one day and said, "Hey, let's kill someone. let's throw a dart to see who dies. It's Trip!" What was up with that suicide? Ten years of defeating
Re: [scifinoir2] Jet Li Unleashed
More subtle, and more selective. The right people can be moved aside, the innocents spared...Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blow it up? My goodness, such violence...Poison is more...subtle...[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always thought Jet Li could do more than 'fight' (even his last american movie show that side of him). Just take a look at his past films. And even the ads for unleashed show the 'finding family' and 'reclaming humanity' aspect of this film. Now after reading this will make me see Unleashed even more.Maybe someone needs to (figurly) just go blow hollyweird up.-GTW Yahoo! MailStay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour "Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] [OT] Dave Chappelle: The Interview
It's a fairly slow science week-end. :-) - http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1061415,00.html#chapelletimereport.html Web Exclusive | Arts - TV On the Beach With Dave Chappelle In South Africa, TIME's Simon Robinson talks with the comic about his sudden disappearance from Chappelle's Show Posted Sunday, May. 15, 2005 In this week's TIME, Christopher John Farley reveals why Dave Chappelle decided to leave his hit show and what he's been up to since he disappeared to South Africa two weeks ago. Last Friday night, TIME Johannesburg bureau chief Simon Robinson met with the comic at uShaka Marine World on the beach in the South African port of Durban. In a ninety minute conversation, Chappelle was eager to set the record straight on why he suddenly left the U.S. and what he's doing in South Africa. Here's Robinson's account: Dave Chappelle shows up to our interview in a red t-shirt, blue jeans and shiny white sneakers. He lopes around in his usual style, pacing a lot, but does not seem like a man struggling to speak or to order his thoughts at all. He's lucid and thoughtful and a couple of times asks me to give him some time to think about answers. He concedes that he is dealing with a lot of issues and mentions that he had consulted a psychiatrist about a week ago for a forty minute session. He is also quite fastidious about keeping his new sneakers clean and stops at least twice to wipe smudges off their toes. The first thing Chappelle wants is to dispel rumors - that he's got a drug problem, that he's checked into a mental institution in Durban - that have been flying around the U.S. for the past week. He says he is staying with a friend, Salim Domar, and not in a mental institution, as has been widely reported in America. Chappelle says he is in South Africa to find a quiet place for a while. Let me tell you the things I can do here which I can't at home: think, eat, sleep, laugh. I'm an introspective dude. I enjoy my own thoughts sometimes. And I've been doing a lot of thinking here. The picture he paints-and it seems a fairly honest and frank assessment - is of someone struggling to come to terms with a new position and power who's still figuring out how to come to grips with how people around him are reacting to the $50 million deal he signed last year with Comedy Central. Without naming specific characters, he seems to blame both some of his inner circle (not his family) and himself for the stresses created by last year's deal. There were things that overwhelmed me, he says. But not in the way that people are saying. I haven't spent any of the money. All that stuff about partying and taking crack is not true. Why do I live on a farm in Ohio? To support my partying lifestyle? The problems, he says, started with his inner circle.If you don't have the right people around you and you're moving at a million miles an hour you can lose yourself, he says. Everyone around me says, 'You're a genius!'; 'You're great!'; 'That's your voice!' But I'm not sure that they're right. And he stresses that Comedy Central was not part of the problem and put no more than normal television restrictions on what he could do. You got to be careful of the company you keep, Chappelle says. It's hard to know how much to say. One of the things that happens when people make the leap from a certain amount of money to tens of millions of dollars is that the people around you dramatically change. During my ascent, I've seen other people go through that wall to become really big. They always said that fame didn't change them but that it changes the people around them. You always hear that but you never really understand it. But now that I'm there that makes a lot of sense and I'm learning what that means. You have to have people around you that you can trust and aren't just out for a meal ticket. The breakdown in trust within his inner circle seems to have led him to question the material they were producing. He seems obsessed with making sure the material is good and honest and something that he will be proud. I want to make sure I'm dancing and not shuffling, he says. What ever decisions I make right now I'm going to have live with. Your soul is priceless. The first two seasons of his show had a real spirit to them, he says. I want to make sure whatever I do has spirit. But Chappelle also says that he must share the blame for the stalled third season. I'm admittedly a human being, he says. I'm a difficult kind of dude. His earlier walkout during shooting had a little psychological element to it. I have trust issues, things like that. I saw some stuff in myself that I just didn't dig. It's like when I brought a girl home to my mom and it looked as if my mom really didn't like this girl. And she told me, 'I like her just fine. I just don't like you around her.' That's how I feel in this situation. There were some things about myself that I didn't like. People got to take inventory
Re: [scifinoir2] [OT] Dave Chappelle: The Interview
It sounds to me like he reconized that the sudden fame was about to overtake him and pulled the 'ejection' chute. Despite the havoc it'll probally do to his career I think he was right in doing it. -GTW Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] REMINDER: AfroGeeks
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RE: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deaths
Title: Message that's the one. I used to think Heston had a Messiah complex -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 11:06To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deaths It was "El Cid".Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed! Remember the movie where he died before a great battle, but had his body propped up on his horse, so his corpse could inspire and lead his men into battle? Was that "El Cid"? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AstromancerSent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 01:46To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deaths YeahCharlton's great 'DeMille-esque' death scenes...serious ham sanwichesKeith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jackson doesn't die nearly as much as the great Charleston Heston, who has more melodramatic death scenes than anybody I know of. Remember "Beneath the Planet of the Apes"? Death. "The Omega Man"? Died, and not just died, but if you saw that movie, he died in a fountain, his blood pooled at his feet, arms and legs outstretched, in nothing so much as a Crucifix-like figure. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly WrightSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:27To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deathsDoesn't it seem like Samuel L. Jackson is always dying in his movies?As we prepare for his final lightsaber battle in ''Star Wars: EpisodeIII,'' we review his best cinematic swan songs.http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1060425_1_0_,00.html1) Star Wars: Episode III (2005)THE STIFF Mace Windu, Jedi knightCAUSE OF DEATH We're going to go out on a limb here and guess thatit's death by lightsaber.2) Goodfellas (1990)THE STIFF Stacks Edwards, thief and Mob associateCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot3) Jungle Fever (1991)THE STIFF Gator Purify, homeless crackheadCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot4) Jurassic Park (1993)THE STIFF Ray Arnold, a technician at the dinosaur preserveCAUSE OF DEATH Velociraptor5) Hard Eight (1996)THE STIFF Jimmy, a Reno casino security guardCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot6) 187 (1997)THE STIFF Trevor Garfield, high school science teacherCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot7) Jackie Brown (1997)THE STIFF Ordell Robbie, arms dealerCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot8) Deep Blue Sea (1999)THE STIFF Russell Franklin, tycoon and adventurerCAUSE OF DEATH: Shark attack9) Basic (2003)THE STIFF Sgt. Nathan West, Army Ranger drill sergeantCAUSE OF DEATH Gunshot, grenade, stabbing depending on whom youbelieve. As viewers learn in one of the plot's twists-upon-twists,there's a reason all these death scenes appear a little far-fetchedand over-the-top.10) Kill Bill Vol. 2 (2004)THE STIFF Rufus, a musicianCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot__The Black Prince. The Black Church. A State of Mind.http://www.theworldebon.com Yahoo! Mail MobileTake Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. "Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Yahoo! Mail MobileTake Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Title: Message
I
believe it. It's a gift.
-Original Message-From:
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Martin PrattSent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 11:13To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on
TV
No, but I'll start. You may find it hard to believe, but most of these
things come right off the top of my head.Keith Johnson
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You need to keep a list of cool one-liners and tag lines. That
"Pretty boys" thing is great. Be perfect in a review, or as a title for a
review. do you keep a list of neat sayings like that?
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005
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[scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Yep, none other than Rex "You Take My Breath Away" Smith (even after
twenty-plus years, that song's worth a laugh). I won't try to defend
Viper. I just liked it. As for "Stingray", the closest to an ending I
remember was an ep in which his past came back to almost bite him on the
can. He almost had to give up his "favor-for-a-favor" gig, if not for one
of his favors being a Government big-wig who stepped in long enough to let
him slip away. Therewere two more eps before the show ended, if I
remember right. Oh, and "Riptide"! Two pretty boys who would've been LOST
without a geek. The way the world REALLY works.Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Street Hawk's star was former pop idol and broadway star
("Pirates of Penzance") Rex Smith, wasn't it? I never got Viper. Seemed
kinda low-rent to me. Stingray was definitely cool. I remember one show
when the star was arrested and printed. His prints were sent off for
matching and he kept telling the arresting officer "You're wasting your
time". The officer felt he had the guy, until the results came back: a
fax showing a young Black man! Never did figure out his story, and
how did the show end?
Gotta tell you, that was another Stephen J. Cannell show, and he
had a long run of good ones, from 21 Jump Street to Riptide to Hunter to
(yes, even) A-Team.
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Thursday, May 12, 2005
19:47To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Anything BUT. Street Hawk didn't do much for me, but Stingray was
even cooler to me than The Equalizer, which I loved. Possibly the idea
that Stingray might have some obscure government connection held some
interest for a budding conspiracy theorist. Viper, I hadevery
epon video, got rid of them only because I began to convert my
video collection to DVD and ran into a little thing called
unemployment a few weeks in.Keith Johnson
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Now what do you have against the story of a man and his car?
At least they got rid of KITT's voice and the cheesy '80s music done
by anyone but the original artists (didn't they? I never watched the
Knight Rider redux series). As for men and their vehicles, did you
like Street Hawk, Stingray, or Viper?
-Original
Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
PrattSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 15:02To:
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Scifi on TV
That it was. I came to like "Vanishing Son" more than any of
the sci-fi shows. "TekWar" had me for all of a month, and let's
not discuss "Knight Rider" in ANY incarnation. "The story of a car
and his man."Keith Johnson
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I watched Time Trax maybe twice, but never
got into it, and I think it was gone before I got around to
trying.Was it part of theso-called "Action Pack"
that came out a few years ago? Remember that? It was a
block of shows that would air together, including "Vanishing
Son" (the martial arts themed show starring Russell Wong),
"Knight Rider: 2000", "Hercules", "TekWar", "Xena", and maybe a
few others. It was shows that I think were from Universal. At
any rate, the Action Pack music would play and they'd show
RE: [scifinoir2] REMINDER: AfroGeeks
Are you a panelist or speaker this year? Tracey -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Art McGee Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 4:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] REMINDER: AfroGeeks AfroGeeks 2005: Global Blackness and the Digital Public Sphere May 19-21, 2005 The Center for Black Studies University of California, Santa Barbara http://www.afrogeeks.com -end- Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 5/13/2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes
Hi SciFiNoir Family: I am compiling quotes for a quote generator that we are installing on the planned portal. Could you guys submit some of your favorites? They can be from any type of speculative fiction genre or media type. Post them to the list or send to the email listed below. Thanks Tracey de Morsella Phone: 215-849-0946 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] View The What Happened to ScifiNoir at Yahoogroups FAQ, at: http://www.visitfloripa.com/scifinoir/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes
From 28 Days Later: This is a shit idea. You know why? Because it's really obviously a shit idea! - Jim on driving the cab the dark tunnel. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslandrith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multiracial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ Hi SciFiNoir Family: I am compiling quotes for a quote generator that we are installing on the planned portal. Could you guys submit some of your favorites? They can be from any type of speculative fiction genre or media type. Post them to the list or send to the email listed below. Thanks Tracey de Morsella Phone: 215-849-0946 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] View The What Happened to ScifiNoir at Yahoogroups FAQ, at: http://www.visitfloripa.com/scifinoir/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes
At the end of War of the Worlsds--The Martians had been destroyed by the smallest creatures that God in his wisdom had chosen to place upon the earth. Forgot the specific quote but there was that feel... The final words in Forbidden Planet--We are afterall, not God. There must be something in 2001, space oddysey Will look around. -C --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella \(formerly Tracey L. Minor\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that religion/spirituality is a strong theme in SciFi. So much so that I decided include a religious section on the site. However, since I am focusing on speculative fiction quotes, I will likely only use some of the ones that are at least from novels or plays. However, the Incredible Shrinking Man quote is right on time. I'm kind of trying to have all or most of the site content be based on the speculative fiction theme. If you have any religious quotes coming from any the specFic genres, i will be extremely interested in using them. Tracey -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 7:36 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes Hi Tracey: Here are my favorite quotes. As you can see most of them are religious... I've always liked the numinous. Guess that's why I got into spec-fic...where spirituality and creativity and wonder meet. -C Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] PS: Quotes can come from your own work/SciFiNoir Needs Your...
Gosh this feels so weird, but here goes. Some of my favorite passages from my own published works. And the last two from my novels in progress. I also did some quotes from some poems of mine that were based on fairy tales. Don't know how fairy tales fit into the specfic theme. -C Tell us, Sir Knight, they asked, why you brought this heathen woman to us. We see by your clothing that you have come from fighting in Palestine. We know you are as holy a man as any of us. Therefore tell us, is this woman a slave of yours, a prize earned in your many battles? Or is she some princess? For dark though she be, she is beautiful to look upon. Was she given to you as booty by some great king? - Carole McDonnell, "Black is the color of my true love's hair" Published in Fantastic Visions III Edited by William Horner "For we are Gods children and this woman is a dark heathen, without knowledge of God and with no power to understand spiritual matters were they explained to her, for far be those heathenish people from salvation or even good sense. It is obvious to me that no true friendship can ever grow between such a great lord and such a woman." Carole McDonnell, "Black is the color of my true love's hair"Published in Fantastic Visions III Edited by William Horner The woman from beyond the Two Hills continued, Already the children of our village no longer dance to the light at our festivals. They insist on Sound-dances, preferring music to light. They hide their natures, clans, and status. They do not wear their clan colors. Some of our marriageable young girls refuse to wear the courtship tassels. They refuse to give the world knowledge of themselves. Its a perverse game they play. Yesterday, at the beginning of the Mother-Infant Festival, some children insisted on mouth-singing, even though their parents could not understand a word they said. And when they talk, they hide their conversations, imitating the mouth-speakers' mouth-to-ears talk, what the Earthers call this she finger-spelled in English-- whispers. - Carole McDonnell "Lingua Franca" Published in So Long Been Dreaming: Post-Colonialism in Science Fiction. Edited by Nalo Hopkinson I do not like the name: Snow White.No one could be that pure.But, accepting it, let us move on. -- Carole McDonnell "Snow White" Published by Hudson River Arts Review. Its small the pea. Some little comment. -- Carole McDonnell "The Princess and the Pea" Published by The Hudson River Arts Review. My mother built ivory towers too.They loomed high, without windows or walls or laddersand she put me and herself inside.-- Carole McDonnell "Rapunzel" Published by the Hudson River Arts Review. There are some women who truly feel themselves to be ideal.There are some women who cannot see their own fraud.There are some women who have crooked measuring sticks.This poem is not for them.We know all too well that we are not perpetual joys.We know the day will come when Prince Charmingwill see us covered with ashessitting beside the cinders. -- Carole McDonnell "Cinderella" Hudson River Arts Review. I dont think I can adequately describe the feeling of intimacy and personal attachment that this person seemed to feel for me. -- Carole McDonnell "That Smile" Then Along Came an Angel. Published by Pleasant Word Books. Edited by Julie Bonn Heath. We dont see a lot of mixed couples around here, and were not like some of the other states in the Confederate United Republic. Its not like theyre gonna get killed or lynched or nothing. But its tough just the same. And although its weird enough that theyre an interracial couple, it seems to me that theyre arguing about something bigger than merely coming into this cafe. I dont know any Blacks. You got to go to Laramie, or Cheyenne to see them. But I watch Cosby when its on. The Confederacy aint as bad as the folks in Columbia might think. Sure everyones segregated, but its all equal and the Platte County school district is pretty good about African-American History Month. -- Carole McDonnell "Homecoming at the Borderlands Cafe" Jigsaw Nation. (Wildside Books) Edited by Ekaterina Sedia. And you are not weak or lacking in morals?I am not. I have told you that I am a reinforced wall. No door of mine is opened to you. Only my husband can enter me. -- Carole McDonnell "The Wind Follower" (specfic historical novel.) Gray Wolf stooped by the waters edge washing Davids blood from his knife. He gazed up with surprised eyes at his friend, Maelstrom. This killing does not satisfy. I thought it would. But revenge does not heal.Maelstrom nodded then turned toward the horizon. The humans have always known this. But come now. The deed is done. Return your ladys body to the convent. Perhaps the Silent One will there heal your heart.David Haskins service to his lord had ended. Which of us knows our great and supreme purpose? Who knows even the smaller purposes he serves? His body, thrown
RE: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deaths
...So was Cicely Tyson...Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember, Chuck WAS Moses...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jackson doesn't die nearly as much as the great Charleston Heston, who has more melodramatic death scenes than anybody I know of. Remember "Beneath the Planet of the Apes"? Death. "The Omega Man"? Died, and not just died, but if you saw that movie, he died in a fountain, his blood pooled at his feet, arms and legs outstretched, in nothing so much as a Crucifix-like figure. -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly WrightSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:27To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: [scifinoir2] Samuel L. Jackson's greatest deathsDoesn't it seem like Samuel L. Jackson is always dying in his movies?As we prepare for his final lightsaber battle in ''Star Wars: EpisodeIII,'' we review his best cinematic swan songs.http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1060425_1_0_,00.html1) Star Wars: Episode III (2005)THE STIFF Mace Windu, Jedi knightCAUSE OF DEATH We're going to go out on a limb here and guess thatit's death by lightsaber.2) Goodfellas (1990)THE STIFF Stacks Edwards, thief and Mob associateCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot3) Jungle Fever (1991)THE STIFF Gator Purify, homeless crackheadCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot4) Jurassic Park (1993)THE STIFF Ray Arnold, a technician at the dinosaur preserveCAUSE OF DEATH Velociraptor5) Hard Eight (1996)THE STIFF Jimmy, a Reno casino security guardCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot6) 187 (1997)THE STIFF Trevor Garfield, high school science teacherCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot7) Jackie Brown (1997)THE STIFF Ordell Robbie, arms dealerCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot8) Deep Blue Sea (1999)THE STIFF Russell Franklin, tycoon and adventurerCAUSE OF DEATH: Shark attack9) Basic (2003)THE STIFF Sgt. Nathan West, Army Ranger drill sergeantCAUSE OF DEATH Gunshot, grenade, stabbing depending on whom youbelieve. As viewers learn in one of the plot's twists-upon-twists,there's a reason all these death scenes appear a little far-fetchedand over-the-top.10) Kill Bill Vol. 2 (2004)THE STIFF Rufus, a musicianCAUSE OF DEATH: Gunshot__The Black Prince. The Black Church. A State of Mind.http://www.theworldebon.com"Excuse me while I whip this out."Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[scifinoir2] Re: SciFiNoir Needs Your Favorite Quotes
(It's the first line that I usually use.) The best thing for being sad is to learn something. That is the only thing that never fails. You may grow old and trembling in your anatomies, you may lie awake at night listening to the disorder in your veins, you may miss your only love, you may see the world about you devastated by evil lunatics, or know your honour trampled in the sewers of baser minds. There is only one thing for it then - to learn. Learn why the world wags and what wags it. That is the only thing the mind can never exhaust, never alienate, never be tortured by, never fear or distrust and never dream of regretting. Look at what a lot of things there are to learn ... astronomy in a lifetime, natural history in three, literature in six. And then, after you have exhausted a million lifetimes in biology and medicine and theo-criticism and geography and history and economics - why, then you can start to make a cartwheel out of the appropriate wood, or spend fifty years learning to begin to learn to beat your adversary and fencing. After that you can start on mathematics, until it is time to learn to plow. - T.H. White (Merlin in The Sword in the Stone) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi SciFiNoir Family: I am compiling quotes for a quote generator that we are installing on the planned portal. Could you guys submit some of your favorites? They can be from any type of speculative fiction genre or media type. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
