Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread Astromancer
I can't stand small screens either...My ex has a 20 screen in her apartment and it is absolutely maddening to watch the tiny TV... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't like small TVs or screens. My living room TV is 32 and i can't wait to upgrade to a 42 or 50 plasma so i can watch it

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread Martin
That's how I first came to see it, pal. I was dating a lady who was half-Italian. She did the translations. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it online, but it was in Italian... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History I've actually had success in the past. The pain from my illness drove me back to the night. Once that went away and I started working again, late night phone meetings with people I am doing business with overseas drove me back

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread Astromancer
Wonderful plot device...stretched the show out nicely...this is what you do when you run out of words! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you mean, why did he start babbling Error, error! Must analyze error! Faulty! Faulty! Must sterilize imperfection! ? You're right, they had time to put some

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread Astromancer
When I drove my cab, I used to keep a 5 TV in the truck for catching Star Trek during dinner break...Nowadays I go to Best Buy and drool over the LG 62-inchers Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm often alone in my weirdness, and I don't think this will be an exception. I've never

RE: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread Reece Jennings
/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:31 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History I get mine from both

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
: Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History I get mine from both parents. On your schedule and being retired, I would be up too. Just thought of another reasons. Toddlers and pre-schoolers climbing into bed with you at the wee hours in the morning to chat tickle poke and prod

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread Martin
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:31 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History I get mine from both parents. On your schedule

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History I get mine from both parents. On your schedule and being retired, I would be up too. Just thought of another reasons. Toddlers and pre-schoolers climbing into bed with you at the wee hours in the morning

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread Martin
Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:31 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History I get mine from both parents. On your schedule and being retired, I would be up too. Just thought of another reasons. Toddlers

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote:

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Astromancer
I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Astromancer
Sorry, folks...the ABSOLUTE worst save in Sci Fi history was in the spaghetti sci-fi flick 'Star Crash'...Christopher Plummer was the Emperor of the Universe...a bounty Hunter has found his kidnapped son and he arrives on the planet...The bouty hunter and son tell him Sire, we only have 2

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
That is bad! You paid to see it in the theater? I do not remember it. When did it come out? Astromancer wrote: Sorry, folks...the ABSOLUTE worst save in Sci Fi history was in the spaghetti sci-fi flick 'Star Crash'...Christopher Plummer was the Emperor of the Universe...a bounty Hunter

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
What happened to your shoulder? Astromancer wrote: I will too, provided I don't need surgery on my shoulder... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Astromancer
I will too, provided I don't need surgery on my shoulder... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Martin
(remembers, falls out of chair laughing) Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either the late seventies or the early eighties...You would remember it if you saw it, especially Plummer's Jack Armstrong long, wavy blonde hair! It was a riot! Tracey de Morsella

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Astromancer
I fell on it, probably tore my rotator cuff...have to have if done before construction season...So you're going back into modeling? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to your shoulder? Astromancer wrote: I will too, provided I don't

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Martin
I'm often alone in my weirdness, and I don't think this will be an exception. I've never liked big TVs. I had a 30 once, and hated the thing. I kept in in my bedroom initially, and moved it into my storage room a month later. Since, I've owned nothing bigger than a 19 screen. Right now, I have

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread KeithBJohnson
how is this possible??? I've never even *heard* of this film, let alone seen it! That *never* happens. Sounds like a classically bad flick. Gotta find it! -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, folks...the ABSOLUTE worst save in Sci Fi history

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread KeithBJohnson
i doubt it, unless i can get about fifty people in my house everytime i see a movie! :) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole

RE: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Reece Jennings
for: Worse Saves In SciFi History Tracey, know this. No matter how tough those times may get, we're here for you. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: I do not know. I do not think that tops the list

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Martin
Tracey, know this. No matter how tough those times may get, we're here for you. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know. I do not think that tops the list - except for the prophet's rescue. I would like to see the

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread KeithBJohnson
LOL!! -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Martin
Thanks for the prompt, folks. Worse sci-fi save ever- Data in The Best of Both Worlds Part 2, when he puts the Borg to sleep. Don't scream too loudly, Keith... Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! Those dumb machines... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread KeithBJohnson
you mean, why did he start babbling Error, error! Must analyze error! Faulty! Faulty! Must sterilize imperfection! ? You're right, they had time to put some anti-grav thingies on him, run through the corridors, and get him on the transporter pad. The funniest thing? Kirk *delays* transport

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread KeithBJohnson
the mother of a friend of mine kept bees twenty years ago because she was developing arthritis. The bee stings definitely improved her condition greatly. Though, is there a way to get the benefit from the venom without getting stung? -- Original message -- From: Tracey

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I actually like small tvs myself. I do not prefer them, but I shocked my husband when we first started living together. if we both wanted to watch tv and view different programs, I would offer to go watch the small TV in the bedroom. I like the coziness.So you are not totally alone in

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
they got it on Netflix. David Hasselhoff is in it too. Totally missed this one [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how is this possible??? I've never even *heard* of this film, let alone seen it! That *never* happens. Sounds like a classically bad flick. Gotta find it! -- Original

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Never!!!if you have pain, try looking into bee sting therapy. I know it sound nuts, but I heard about it on NPR. It is a growing practice here in the states and apparently very popular in Asia Astromancer wrote: I fell on it, probably tore my rotator cuff...have to have if done before

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Martin
Yes, you do. The finer treats are often found at the bottom of the cupboard. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how is this possible??? I've never even *heard* of this film, let alone seen it! That *never* happens. Sounds like a classically bad flick. Gotta find it! -- Original message

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread KeithBJohnson
i don't like small TVs or screens. My living room TV is 32 and i can't wait to upgrade to a 42 or 50 plasma so i can watch it from the den as well. (that'll proabably be next Christmas, though). I really like to see detail on the screen, so small screens bug me. i like to be immersed in the

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Martin
Don't really know. Just always have. And I should clarify- the storage room I speak of was actually the master bedroom of my apartment. I don't like big rooms, either, and didn't even use the room when I had the apartment, save for book and comic storage. I could've gone in and watched it (the

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History Tracey, know this. No matter how tough those times may get, we're here for you. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: I do not know. I do

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread KeithBJohnson
Hasselhoff too?! Oh that's just perfect! Now, tell me it's got Jimmy JJ Walker, the guy who played Mr. Drummond on Different Strokes, and a few other Love Boat rejects, and we're in business! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I can related there with the small room thing too. I used to have this big one room loft that doubled as a photography studio I shared with a business partner and I kept setting up these small living area nooks instead of using the whole space. I hated the high ceilings (weird huh). If I

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I get the quality time with the pre-schooler motive. This morning, after getting me up at an ungodly hour, mine just climbed on to the couch I was napping on, got under the covers with me, said Maggie is cool - That is Maggie and the Ferocious Beast for the pre-school TV uninitiated. After I

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Yeah. Bee venom comes as a prescription, used off label. Meaning it is FDA approved for desensitizing patients from bee-sting allergies, but some doctors are beginning to prescribe it for alleviating pain, inflammation and other ailments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the mother of a friend of

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Well there is know duplicating the 50 people yelling at the screen experience that you crave I know there is know getting you out of the theatre. Regarding the Big Room/ Small Room conflict. Chris and I have the reverse. He loves big open room and I like lots of small cozy rooms. If we had

RE: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Reece Jennings
/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:36 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History I've actually had success

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-27 Thread Astromancer
I found it online, but it was in Italian... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they got it on Netflix. David Hasselhoff is in it too. Totally missed this one [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how is this possible??? I've never even *heard* of this film, let

[scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did that with M5 (How will you atone for the sin of murder...This computer must die...), Nomad (Nomad, you've made three errors, you are flawed.

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
That outsmarting the computer theme seems to appear every season on the Original Star Trek and Next Generation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread Bosco Bosco
Here is my nomination for the worst bad plot blockbuster of all time: Revenge of The Sith: Anakin haunted by visions of the death of his beloved Padme embraces the Dark Side in order to save her from what he sees as an inescapable fate and when she questions his judgement, he attempts to kill

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
yes indeed. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] That outsmarting the computer theme seems to appear every season on the Original Star Trek and Next Generation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
Bad moment, but it's not technically a save. For a bad straight out save from Star Wars, how about Luke getting his a kicked by the cackling Emperor, whining Father! Help me please!. I always thought the conversion of Vader from this super bad buy who'd spent decades murdering his own former

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
Well, there's the time when two thousand Dominion ships were coming through the wormhole and the Prophets simply got rid of them. That might be the scene, since it was such a neat fix, but that's not the end of the War, technically. At the true end, Section 31 had of course infected the

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I do not know. I do not think that tops the list - except for the prophet's rescue. I would like to see the whole series again. it comes on t 11:00 am sporadically and at 2:00 am, however, I am trying out an experiment with trying to go to bed at normal hours.Tough times ahead [EMAIL

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
that 2 am slot sucks. I could tape it, but the commercial interrruptions kill me, and Spike seems to be airing shows that have snippets cut here and there for timing. (it's worse for the OS series rerun, where I can easily detect the cuts). what are the tough times ahead? --

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
Both Conan movie finales. In the first Conan flick (which I love) i thought Conan overcoming Thulsa Doom's mental control to chop off his head was anticlimactic. He wobbled for a bit, then starts swinging the sword. Always feel let down by that one. And in Conan the Destroyer, the fight with

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread Daryle
I had actually forgotten about the vanishing Dominion ships...yes, YES...that WAS even hokier than the Romulans coming on board with a Klingon Alliance. And the FoundersĀ¹ virus. For as much as I loved DS9, IĀ¹ve never seen an American show turn so miserably British so fast. On 12/26/07 4:55 PM,

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread Bosco Bosco
I can't recommend the DVR enough for catching TV without commercials at convenient times. I have been anti-television for a long long time until my girlfriend got a DVR with her cable package. Now I am gonna get it for my own home LOST begins in January and I am on FIRE Bosco --- Tracey de

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread Justin Mohareb
Babylon 5: Into the Fire. Get the hell out of our Galaxy! Okay, sure, that's lame. JJ Mohareb On Dec 26, 2007 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread Astromancer
Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know,

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread Astromancer
Ha! Those dumb machines... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That outsmarting the computer theme seems to appear every season on the Original Star Trek and Next Generation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a

Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-26 Thread Astromancer
I've always wondered...Why didn't NOMAD blow up the moment he had discovered his error? oh yeah, it was in the script... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming