Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-03-07 Thread Dave Long
Which is why I am fascinated by the notion of somebody attempting to reproduce them on a single instrument, like a trumpet. When one takes away the sampled beat and the sampled riff, there's no *there* there. That's exactly my point. In between work, gigging, and other commitments,

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-03-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Dave Long [07/03/08 18:09 +0100]: (suresh, my mail to you bounced, but shiv and udhay should have copies of the mp3s) one of bluewin's mailservers got filtered at work because of an outbreak of spam (from virus infected users whose PCs got their outlook hijacked by a virus and used to spam

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-03-06 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Dave Long wrote, [on 3/4/2008 3:58 PM]: (it'll be at least several months before recording with a new instrument. However, if you'd like MP3s of some of our current songs, I'm a little short of server access, but happy to send them along by other means. Just remember that, unlike Maiden,

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-03-06 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Udhay Shankar N [07/03/08 11:00 +0530]: Which is why I am fascinated by the notion of somebody attempting to reproduce them on a single instrument, like a trumpet. When one takes away the sampled beat and the sampled riff, there's no *there* there. What you want to do is take Alanis

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-03-02 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
/me has been digitising his dhrupad collection. i learnt from the dagars for some years in delhi. dunno about bangalore, but in bombay there are students of zia mohiuddin dagar (not just rudra veena, also singing). On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 00:55 +0530, va wrote: Absolutely, their aalaps are more

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-28 Thread Dave Long
I think I should start again. Yeah. I've started again, and recommend it highly. Having sorely needed a distraction last fall, I joined a local band. (we leave tomorrow for Belgium) A couple of weeks ago they asked if I could play trumpet next season, and I replied, in principle, yes,

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-28 Thread Divya Sampath
--- Abhishek Hazra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (eg...Mishram is so called because mishram is mixture...it is a mixture of 4 and 3!.. and I am unable to find out why Sankeernam, the word for 9, is so called...) interesting. Sankeernam meaning narrow,

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Vid...I wish you could come and learn Carnatic music from me. I have not had a SINGLE student like you yet. They assimilate the info I give them, but they don't ask questions on their own...if I don't know the

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:28 PM, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] My classes ended after I used a diwali firecracker to play a few notes on the mridangam Were you subjected to a sermon on being a shame on the family? My sister's impeccable track record at Bharatantyam didn't help at

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: I was forcibly enrolled in Mridangam classes at age 7. I had to beat out the same 4 notes for ever - I lost my patience after the first few classes and asked the teacher when I was going to get a hand at trying other things. I was

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:28 PM, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] My classes ended after I used a diwali firecracker to play a few notes on the mridangam Were you subjected to a sermon on being a

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread divya manian
I had ok-ok teachers of Carnatic music and, as you all mention, was forced to learn singing and dancing for a while. I then started learning to play the Veena, but stopped it in time for my X standard preparation. My interest in carnatic music deepened only after coming to Singapore and being

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:54 PM, divya manian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard people are nowadays learning carnatic music online through teachers who are teaching them through the voice chat, sitting in Chennai and students who reside in the US. karNa paramparA (auditory tradition) in

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread Charles Haynes
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:54 PM, divya manian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard people are nowadays learning carnatic music online through teachers who are teaching them through the voice chat, sitting in Chennai

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread va
On 2/27/08, divya manian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had ok-ok teachers of Carnatic music and, as you all mention, was forced to learn singing and dancing for a while. I then started learning to play the Veena, but stopped it in time for my X standard I started after class X and stopped Veena

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread Anil Kumar
Oh no. Please keep it going. It is turning out like a - Indian music of Dummies. I've never been to a music class; I listen to music and it is good to know the stuff being written here. Though, it would be nice to change the subject line to an appropriate one to the discussion. Before that

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
Ok, now that everyone's confessing their music-learning crimes, let me state mine. It has a happy beginning. We've always had singers in the family. My grandmother sang, dad played the flute and his brother the flute and the violin. Cousins sang. So I wasn't pushed into learning carnatic music as

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-28 10:48:00 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, now that everyone's confessing their music-learning crimes, let me state mine. It has a happy beginning. Heh, me too. I went to the Calcutta School of Music for several months one summer to learn the (western classical) violin from an

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread Anil Kumar
] To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:00:50 +0530 Subject: Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut At 2008-02-28 10:48:00 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, now that everyone's confessing their music-learning crimes, let me state mine

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-26 Thread Deepa Mohan
When I learn carnatic music, I ask the meaning of the song in the language (usually telugu, tamil, kannada, malyalam, sanskrit which i am curious about) taught or why a particular raga is constructed in that way, how and why its similar or not, comparison with Hindustani music, and a zillion other

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-26 Thread Abhishek Hazra
(eg...Mishram is so called because mishram is mixture...it is a mixture of 4 and 3!.. and I am unable to find out why Sankeernam, the word for 9, is so called...) interesting. Sankeernam meaning narrow, or constricted? in Tamil what is the name for words like this which are Sanskrit derived

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-26 Thread va
On 2/26/08, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vid...I wish you could come and learn Carnatic music from me. I have ... would love to :) not had a SINGLE student like you yet. They assimilate the info I give them, but they don't ask questions on their own...if I don't know the hehe,

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-26 Thread Venkat Mangudi
va wrote: On 2/26/08, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vid...I wish you could come and learn Carnatic music from me. I have ... would love to :) hehe, ...one of my students was the opposite, started coming in Any of you near Marathahalli or nearby? My six year old daughter loves music

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Very similar daughter. Who is 3. And in Adyar, Madras. As silklist seems to be a hidden treasure trove of better than average music teachers.. Any of you near Marathahalli or nearby? My six year old daughter loves music and instinctively hums along even if she does not know the song. And

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-26 Thread Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very similar daughter. Who is 3. And in Adyar, Madras. As silklist seems to be a hidden treasure trove of better than average music teachers.. And slicha more knowledgeable listeners as well. C --

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-26 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very similar daughter. Who is 3. And in Adyar, Madras. As silklist seems to be a hidden treasure trove of better than average music teachers.. ...or so we say, ourselves! :) I am in south Bangalore...and I

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-26 Thread Deepa Mohan
Most times though I see some parents push their kids into 10 different classes without seeing if he/she has any interest/aptitude so the child is confused and pressured. true,true,true,true! Deepa. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:54 PM, va [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/26/08, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
baby-high pitch will settle down a little. Do let the child listen to a lot of music, of all kinds. My daughter ultimately has no interest in Carnatic music, but plays the guitar and sang in the choir in Bangalore and at both the colleges she attended. She likes MS subbulakshmi (and used to

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-26 Thread va
On 2/26/08, Venkat Mangudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any of you near Marathahalli or nearby? My six year old daughter loves I agree with Deepa, give her a year or two :) Besides MS, do listen to other singers like DKP, Santhanam, NCVasanthakokilam, KBS [1] there are a lot more though. It

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-25 Thread va
On Feb 16, 2008 3:48 PM, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, looks like Vijay TV has finally scraped up the guts to go beyond Tamil (or Hindi) serials/movies with their retrograde, biased and suppressive attitude towards women all in the name of preserving culture

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
always always annoyed every teacher i've known till date. Not that this research interests me but its just sheer curiosity; which i satisfy via the Internet. Maybe folks are not interested, dont care about the meaning or construction but I find the attitude toward teaching/learning more

[silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-16 Thread suresh
This IHT.com article has been sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, looks like Vijay TV has finally scraped up the guts to go beyond megaserials. And boy, do they go beyond. Any silklisters know this Rose formerly known as Ramesh Venkatesan? LSU grad, worked in a call center etc etc.

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Deepa Mohan [16/02/08 21:18 +0530]: I don't know her; but I found this article very interesting. However, as a dyed-in-the-wool Tambram (Tamizh Brahmin) Mami, I find this strange phenomenon that I call pseudo-honesty amongst many members My wife's reaction was an ayyayo. Kind of like oh no for

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-16 Thread divya manian
On 2/17/08, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife's reaction was an ayyayo. Kind of like oh no for the non tamil speakers out here. And my inlaws were like well, should make a change from all the soap operas. After they said ayyayo as well.

Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
divya manian [17/02/08 08:31 +0800]: The only issue I have with her is she has too much oil based make up on her face. That makeup laid on with a trowel, flamboyantly curled fake wig / plait etc are kind of deliberate is what I think. Look, I'm being feminine. I'm actually using MAKEUP.