Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 07:45:52PM -0800, J. Andrew Rogers wrote: Nokia E61: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_E61 Apropos mobiles, I've terminated my phone service contract with Vodafone because of German (EU, actually) data retention (starting 20080101), and am switching to anonymous

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Apropos mobiles, I've terminated my phone service contract with Vodafone because of German (EU, actually) data retention (starting 20080101), and am switching to anonymous prepaid. Won't help you. Kooky decisions like the Holger Voss case banning logging for other than billing purposes are on

Re: [silk] Thumb drive bricked - any way out?

2007-11-22 Thread shiv sastry
On Thursday 22 Nov 2007 2:18 pm, Venkat Mangudi wrote: This happened to me once. It bricked a couple of thumb drives and additionally an USB mouse. Later, I found that the USB interface was wired badly. You might want to not put anything in that drive anymore. After many years I find myself

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 02:09:31PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Won't help you. Kooky decisions like the Holger Voss case banning logging They may log whatever they want, they still don't know who owns the phone. And it just may happen that all they log is a VPN tunnel. Hence the need

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
They may log whatever they want, they still don't know who owns the phone. And it just may happen that all they So you get asked to show ID when buying prepaid phones. If you aren't already. srs

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Charles Haynes
On Nov 22, 2007 3:17 PM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 02:09:31PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Won't help you. Kooky decisions like the Holger Voss case banning logging They may log whatever they want, they still don't know who owns the phone. And it

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 03:21:59PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: So you get asked to show ID when buying prepaid phones. If you aren't Not all prepaid contracts require that. It may be a temporary loophole, and one I'll certainly will exploit. Apart from that with a mobile flat rate I

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Charles Haynes
On Nov 22, 2007 3:39 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the sake of comparison: I've bought SIM cards in Malaysia, China, Thailand and Singapore and would rate them in that order for ease of activation, ranging from instant to half an hour in queue. All but Malaysia required

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 03:34:44PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: I have this tinfoil hat somewhere around .. I will be glad to ship it to you any time you like You must be reading some different news than I'm reading. Two is coincidence, three is enemy action. Seven, uh, I guess it's

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
You must be reading some different news than I'm reading. Two is coincidence, three is enemy action. Seven, uh, I guess it's time to learn sniper shooting. Just approaching it from a different angle. And having worked in cooperation with / alongside law enforcement in various job related

[silk] silly citizenship tests

2007-11-22 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
i'm not sure what is sillier: the dutch testing potential immigrants' reactions to images of topless women sunbathing and gay men kissing [1], or the americans asking a world-famous (english) columnist to spell i want to be a good american in order to get US citizenship [2]. -rishab Roger Cohen

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 04:01:24PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Just approaching it from a different angle. And having worked in cooperation with / alongside law enforcement in various job related situations I live in one of the safest places on this planet. There's absolutely no

Re: [silk] silly citizenship tests

2007-11-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: i'm not sure what is sillier: the dutch testing potential immigrants' reactions to images of topless women sunbathing and gay men kissing [1], or the americans asking a world-famous (english) columnist to spell i want to be a good american in order to get US

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Eugen Leitl wrote: I live in one of the safest places on this planet. There's absolutely no reason to go police state (unless our rulers are preparing Oh you do, with various eastern European scam artists and gangsters using those phones to run scams, buy and sell cars on escrow etc. Among

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 04:37:01PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Oh you do, with various eastern European scam artists and gangsters using When I ran a Tor exit node, I was cited to local police station three times, in order to testify on the case to the BKA. All of these citations but

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread ashok _
On Nov 22, 2007 1:09 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the sake of comparison: I've bought SIM cards in Malaysia, China, Thailand and Singapore and would rate them in that order for ease of activation, ranging from instant to half an hour in queue. All but Malaysia required

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread ashok _
On Nov 22, 2007 12:47 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: I must also get reasonably wealthy soon, it increasingly looks as if Germany (EU?) is not the right place to retire, or even to live long-term. Any suggestions? So far Switzerland and some parts of Scandinavia look reasonable. Apart from that,

Re: [silk] silly citizenship tests

2007-11-22 Thread Badri Natarajan
Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: i'm not sure what is sillier: the dutch testing potential immigrants' reactions to images of topless women sunbathing and gay men kissing [1], or the americans asking a world-famous (english) columnist to spell i want to be a good american in order to get US

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Aditya Chadha
On Nov 22, 2007 3:28 AM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope OpenMoko second hardware edition will be here soon. I no longer trust mobiles devices with proprietary firmware. PS. The FIC 1973 GTA02 also has closed source/binary GSM firmware, and they're having a lot of trouble getting

Re: [silk] Gmail on the E61 (was New iphone ad)

2007-11-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 12:09:50PM -0500, Aditya Chadha wrote: PS. The FIC 1973 GTA02 also has closed source/binary GSM firmware, and Yes, but that's not much of a problem in practice. GSM encryption is effectively worthless (IMPI catchers, ahem), you probably can't reflash GSM module over

Re: [silk] To FOU or not to FOU

2007-11-22 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Udhay Shankar N wrote: [ on 11:39 AM 11/19/2007 ] So, I think it should be all right to go with twin-sharing, yes? Show of hands of who's staying overnight? OK, couple more admin points: Fireflies is expecting 10-15 people to show up around 11:30 AM on 1st December; and ~10 people to stay

Re: [silk] To FOU or not to FOU

2007-11-22 Thread Biju Chacko
On Nov 23, 2007 10:41 AM, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 23, 2007 9:39 AM, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 23, 2007 10:29 AM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things to bring: * Your beverage[s] of choice - enough for yourself, and some to share.

Re: [silk] To FOU or not to FOU

2007-11-22 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Nov 23, 2007 9:39 AM, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 23, 2007 10:29 AM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things to bring: * Your beverage[s] of choice - enough for yourself, and some to share. My poison of choice is cholestrol, preferably in the shape of meat.

Re: [silk] To FOU or not to FOU

2007-11-22 Thread shiv sastry
On Friday 23 Nov 2007 10:41 am, Deepa Mohan wrote: BijuFireflies is some kind of ashram as far as I was able to gather last time...so you would probably want o find out what stuff they might object to...'' IIRC you people had Chicken a la car tire last time right? And some fireworks to

Re: [silk] To FOU or not to FOU

2007-11-22 Thread Valsa Williams
I plan to join you as well will arrive with Danese on Dec 1st . On Nov 23, 2007 11:10 AM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biju Chacko wrote: [ on 10:39 AM 11/23/2007 ] My poison of choice is cholestrol, preferably in the shape of meat. What's the policy on bringing, say, shikampuri

Re: [silk] To FOU or not to FOU

2007-11-22 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Biju Chacko wrote: [ on 10:39 AM 11/23/2007 ] My poison of choice is cholestrol, preferably in the shape of meat. What's the policy on bringing, say, shikampuri kebabs? I undertake to clean up after myself and not leave any non-veg garbage for the staff of the veg venue to deal with. From my

Re: [silk] To FOU or not to FOU

2007-11-22 Thread Biju Chacko
On Nov 23, 2007 10:29 AM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things to bring: * Your beverage[s] of choice - enough for yourself, and some to share. My poison of choice is cholestrol, preferably in the shape of meat. What's the policy on bringing, say, shikampuri kebabs? I undertake to