Re: CSabout niacin

2010-02-08 Thread Annie B Smythe
Thank you Dan:) That certainly helps clear up the confusion. I got sidetracked by some reading on selenium and magnesium, and totally forgot about that question. Sigh, I'm a magpie. Just dangle something interesting in front of me and I'm distracted. It's a sparkly. :) Annie Control

Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
This sounds like a very industrious, busy person! The reason I am overweight is because I can't be bothered to eat well, and just grab a piece of plastic bread and stick some jam on it! I HATE cooking more than anything else, even more than housework! dee On 7 Feb 2010, at 21:31, Tad

Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread Ode Coyote
That's where the mad phantom dump truck driver haunts the landscape, isn't it ?...The high plateaunothing there but fairly small windswept piles of barren dirt and a few faded mobile homes clustered around an oil rig every 90 or so miles and a string of gnarly trees marching along a

Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

2010-02-08 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
If this is the case and is true, why is it that *our* silver works perfectly well then? My dog has just been cured of sickness and inertia with a day of ionic silver, when other dogs which exhibited similar symptoms have had to be hospitalised on drips. You cannot fool animals! Also, our

Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread John E. Stevens
Dee: you sound like a rebellious woman. Hmmnnn. You sound like you're in a dangerous health situation with your eating habits. At this later stage in life (68 yrs), there is NOTHING more important than what you eat and the water you drink that you put in your body. Cooking is one of the most

Re: CSRE: silver help with lymes type?

2010-02-08 Thread John E. Stevens
There is a book written by an MD (I can't recall his name, damn) who cured his Lyme with colloidal silver water. John On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:14 PM, poast po...@prodigy.net wrote: Hello Greg, You may find this article informative...

CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread John E. Stevens
-- Forwarded message -- From: Steve Barwick stevebarw...@sbcglobal.net Date: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:15 AM Subject: request your help To: Steve Barwick stevebarw...@sbcglobal.net I just started a new Facebook group called the Colloidal Silver Secrets Group. The idea of the

Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I know John, but unfortunately I just hate cooking! I try not to eat too much that is bad i.e. sugar and do eat veggies if I'm doing them for others, but just cannot be bothered for myself. I am 66 and actually have been healthy all my life - at least, I haven't had anything that made me ill

Re: CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Isn't this the fellow that was running the scare thing about Europe banning silver making products? dee On 8 Feb 2010, at 13:24, John E. Stevens wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Steve Barwick stevebarw...@sbcglobal.net Date: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:15 AM Subject:

RE: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread Lisa
Hi Sol, Actually that'd be great too - I've got a bread machine and haven't used it in awhile as I've never been quite satisfied with the results. A tried and true recipe sounds awesome. Thanks :-) Lisa _ From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Sunday, February

Re: CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread John E. Stevens
It isn't a scare technique. The EU will dispose of CSW in evolutionary steps over a period of time - not in a one-time shot deal. Like the way King Pharma came into credibility discrediting homepathic doctors in the early 19th century. It's progressive evolution - please keep an eye on it. I

Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread Kathy Tankersley
Just some input about bread machines, I bought one several years ago, and it always made the crust on the bread too hard, probably the machine got too hot, so now I use it on the dough cycle only, then take it out of the machine and make my own loaf. You can use several different recipes this

Re: CSFDA approval [Trigger word, beware of rant]

2010-02-08 Thread Ode Coyote
Who made who what king? The problem is that people believe that doctors are gods with all the answers and if they get one wrong, because no two people are the same. they can sue them. That puts otherwise caring individuals [doctors] inside a box of rules from which they cannot wander

Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

2010-02-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
The photographic process which causes argyria is normally associated with silver halides, such as silver chloride and bromide. So one might assume that silver citrate, which is more stable than silver chloride might not be a problem. Unfortunately experience with Silver Oz which is silver

Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

2010-02-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Richard Goodwin wrote: I keep hearing that: once silver ions hit the salty stomach or blood, they become silver chloride... But, something was already x-chloride in both stomach and blood -- sodium chloride? So what does silver do? Push the sodium aside and take over the chloride ions?

Re: CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Who do you mean? And how do you know they aren't? dee On 8 Feb 2010, at 15:02, John E. Stevens wrote: It isn't a scare technique. The EU will dispose of CSW in evolutionary steps over a period of time - not in a one-time shot deal. Like the way King Pharma came into credibility

Re: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #161

2010-02-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Greg Ball wrote: I'm dealing with late stage lyme disease and babesia. I have a silvergen and have used silver for 20 years for infections like bladder or lung infections. I've been hearing about silver for lyme, but it's the doctor who developed the ACS brand of silver who's saying it can kill

Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

2010-02-08 Thread Ode Coyote
If silver-tet works it's because it emits or exposes silver ions on a molecular level. Filters stay sterile because the ion exchange resins emit [exchange] ions and/or make ions on the surface of the resin that contact the water. [in which a bio film would grow] If they emit enough ions,

Re: CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread M. G. Devour
Thanks for forwarding that report/request, John. A tactical suggestion from me: If anyone chooses to participate, please do so. Telling our personal stories about silver use in a sympathetic public forum is a good way to balance some of the bias that's out there. While doing so, please don't

CS[List Owner] Archive update...

2010-02-08 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi folks, Just want to let you know I'm still working on the archive. It has not been and will not be forgotten! grin Gary Hawkins provided me with an archive of Silver List and Rife List posts for the time before I joined the group, in early April '97. Unfortunately, they're in a text format

Re: CSFDA approval

2010-02-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
I agree. Many times I have put down something I was looking at maybe purchasing when I saw those words Approved by te FDA. That is one big red flag for me, and I am not taking anything that says that on it, and hope to keep it that way. Marshall John E. Stevens wrote: Dick: I think you're

Re: CSHeres how to get FDA approval.

2010-02-08 Thread Ode Coyote
At 11:18 AM 2/8/2010 +1030, you wrote: Collecting a million anecdotes will not do it. The only way the FDA will approve CS is if clinical human trials are conducted. And as I've said here before the only body in the US with the money and the duty to conduct a trial is the National Centre for

CSfruit and veg in Belize

2010-02-08 Thread ATOMICSILVER
Hi Ode, Greetings from Belize ! It was actually the English - when Belize was British Honduras - who banned anyone growing fresh vegetables so they could sell the Belizeans lots of canned vegetables from Europe .!! Consequently several generations never learned to grow anything for

Re: CSlab results

2010-02-08 Thread Ode Coyote
At 05:03 PM 2/7/2010 -0800, you wrote: Hello Ode, A few thoughts... Most people don't adhere to laboratory procedures. When baking a cake, a precisely measured cake tastes just as good as one that has been thrown together. However, in chemistry things are different. One of the biggest

Re: CSFDA approval [Trigger word, beware of rant]

2010-02-08 Thread Annie B Smythe
I dunno Ode, I don't think most doctors are the good guys. MOST of them don't even question the garbage they're taught in medical school. They don't look for underlying cause of disease, or learn anything new, or look at the newest research. They'll tell you it's all in your head when they

Re: CSHeres how to get FDA approval.

2010-02-08 Thread poast
Hello David, It may be that some of the testing has already been done and what is needed is a liturature search to bring the various bits and pieces together. For example, I ran across this study... http://www.hempusa.org/ABL/Human_Studies/ASAP%2093%20Patient%20Independent%20Human%20Study.pdf

Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

2010-02-08 Thread poast
Hello Dee, Actually, my comment was meant to be a bit of a tongue in cheek sarcastic comment. It very well could be that the silver that we make shares many chacteristics with the other stuff. It may be that home made EIS is actually more effective than the other stuff, but I have not been able

CSSilver for lyme babesia

2010-02-08 Thread Greg Ball
Thanks Tom, The article was interesting and I think it's possible it could help, even if it's not a complete cure. That brings me back to my original question. What's the best and most effective form of silver for me? Should I use my silvergen, or ACS, Mesosilver, Sovereign Silver

Re: CSFDA approval [Trigger word, beware of rant]

2010-02-08 Thread John E. Stevens
Very good points, ladies. The med schools have been skewed since the early 1900's when JD Rockefeller owned most of King Pharma. He, and Abraham Fletchner pushed a law through Congress around 1910 that made using foods and nutrients as medicines illegal. Then with his multi-million dollar

Re: CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread John E. Stevens
Do you ever get any read-outs or newsletters from any CSW machine makers that overall help the CSW movement? I've never seen another one on this list. John On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote: Who do you mean? And how do you know they aren't? dee On 8

Re: CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Doesn't mean to say they *aren't* doing anything though. And if they aren't, then that is up to them I feel.dee On 8 Feb 2010, at 19:43, John E. Stevens wrote: Do you ever get any read-outs or newsletters from any CSW machine makers that overall help the CSW movement? I've never seen

CSargryia and iron

2010-02-08 Thread sol
I just read on an iron disorders site that one symptom of iron overload is skin discoloration. Usually bronze or tan but also ashen grey. No photos, but this leads me to wonder how many folks with argryia have been tested for iron overload? sol

Re: CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread John E. Stevens
Defense... defense... Bah... humbug... John On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Doesn't mean to say they *aren't* doing anything though. And if they aren't, then that is up to them I feel.dee On 8 Feb 2010, at 19:43, John E. Stevens wrote: Do

Re: CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread John E. Stevens
Understandable, Mike. Although I do think folks who are making money from CSW and from CSW machines should take a stand and support the movement to understanding the power of CSW. I think Steve is doing an admirable job of it. Thanks. John On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:36 AM, M. G. Devour

Re: CS[List Owner] Archive update...

2010-02-08 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Mike.  Can't help you with that, but wanted to thank you for the time spent and effort you're making to get this done for us. Mary Ann From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com   Unfortunately, they're in a text format rather than a proper mailbox file, and

Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread sol
At 04:52 PM 2/7/2010, you wrote: Looked up the town of Eden in SW Wyoming. The satelite view shows plenty of agriculture, but obviously irrigated. If you can find water, you should be able to grow stuff during the summer. Temperature looks no worse than Minnesota... Perhaps an economic

Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread sol
At 04:39 AM 2/8/2010, you wrote: This sounds like a very industrious, busy person! The reason I am overweight is because I can't be bothered to eat well, and just grab a piece of plastic bread and stick some jam on it! I HATE cooking more than anything else, even more than housework! dee

Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread sol
At 04:47 AM 2/8/2010, you wrote: That's where the mad phantom dump truck driver haunts the landscape, isn't it ?...The high plateaunothing there but fairly small windswept piles of barren dirt and a few faded mobile homes clustered around an oil rig every 90 or so miles and a string

Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread Pat
I love baking. Needless to say, I hardly bake anymore since it's all sweet treats or breads that I can't have in the house. If I have anything like that around, I will not eat fruit or yogurt for snacks, but will go for the sweets or buttered rolls every time. I love burgers and fries and

Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-08 Thread Pat
The people out west are great! We wondered if the people we like best went west long ago since most people we talked to agreed that New Englanders weren't very friendly. Other than that, I just remember when we delivered in Rock Springs and then I-80 was closed due to snow and in Rawlins

RE: CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread Neville Munn
[...let them make up their own minds.] -Music to my ears Boss, music to my ears g. Genuine, meaningful and thoughtful considerations when 'fat' is trimmed from all the public domain material to get to the 'meat' for the non scientific individual to take on board with some points EIS

CSFwd: request your help

2010-02-08 Thread Alchemysa
The problem is that Barwick/Jones newsletters and readouts are scaremongering, misleading bull. Furthermore he writes in that miracle cure/snake oil style that will bring the FDA down on the whole CS business. How does that help' the movement'? David From: John E. Stevens

CSUh Oh, Heads up!

2010-02-08 Thread Annie B Smythe
In this article the someone is starting to pick at the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act again. What gets me is that no one died even over that extended period of time, but they want to control all supplements. The drug companies produce drugs that kill thousands and no one blinks

CSSilver type for lyme babesia

2010-02-08 Thread Greg Ball
Hi all, I'm still hoping for an answer to my original question. What's the best and most effective form of silver for me (lymes disease and babesia)? Should I use my silvergen, or ACS, Mesosilver, Sovereign Silver I'd really appreciate an answer if anyone has one, or if not, where can I

Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

2010-02-08 Thread poast
Hello Ode, They make a big deal about the oxide on the outside of their silver particles. Then they mention that they are adding H2O2. Does the H2O2 play a part in the oxidation? The ships I have been on use chlorine and carry bottled water for drinking... I am still doing research on the

Re: CSSilver for lyme babesia

2010-02-08 Thread poast
Hello Greg, The main difference between the silver used in that article and the silver produced in the SilverGen is that they are adding a small amount of hydrogen peroxide to theirs. I don't know enough about this to give you any direction on how much to use, so you will have to ask someone