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Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:15 AM
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Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
The trick to extreme dilution is to do it in multiple steps, not all at
once.
For instance, put a 1/8 teaspoon into 8 oz of water, then use an eye dropper
to
put
, 2005 8:19 AM
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Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Silver has a mw of 108
Silver carbonate is Ag2CO3 mw 276.
Baking Soda is NaHCO3 mw 84.
Since ppm is measured as weight vs weight, then the amount of silver vs the
amount of baking soda will be 2*108/84 of the baking soda
: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Hello:
Is there anything to be really concerned about in adding Sodium Bicarb to
Distilled water in small amounts, say to increase PPM to 5 before
starting the electrolytic process for CS? I had been using 25% CS ( 1000
ml Starter plus 3000 ml Distilled) from
: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Hello:
Is there anything to be really concerned about in adding Sodium Bicarb
to
Distilled water in small amounts, say to increase PPM to 5 before
starting the electrolytic process for CS? I had been using 25% CS (
1000
ml Starter plus 3000 ml Distilled
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Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Hello:
Is there anything to be really concerned about in adding Sodium Bicarb to
Distilled water in small amounts, say to increase PPM to 5 before
starting the electrolytic process for CS? I had been using 25
At 11:40 AM 9/29/2005 -0400, you wrote:
Ode Coyote wrote:
Personally, I don't see a thing wrong with flexible plastic pipes.
They don't tend to break, crack or permanently swell when frozen, erode
with acidic water, clog with calcium, clank with pressure surges. It costs
a pile less to buy and
That's only if you have a septic tank. Most times, if you have a well, it's
because you live too far out to get city sewage.
Hard to say what CS would do to the sewage treatment plant, but not 'your'
problem, right?
A while back I ran across an EPA hazardous waste warning for silver
products.
Hello:
Would the small amount of Silver Carbonate formed in this process be
disadventageous in any way?
Ian
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From: Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Hello
26, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Hello:
Is there anything to be really concerned about in adding Sodium Bicarb to
Distilled water in small amounts, say to increase PPM to 5 before
starting the electrolytic process for CS? I had been using 25% CS ( 1000
ml Starter
Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Hello:
Would the small amount of Silver Carbonate formed in this process be
disadventageous in any way?
Ian
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From: Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject
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Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Hello:
Would the small amount of Silver Carbonate formed in this process be
disadventageous in any way?
Ian
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From: Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Jim, I'll do it for you if you tell me first, what, in heavens name posesses
anyone to figure that out? for?
Thnks
Frank
Chemist
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From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net
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Sent: Friday
Jim Is TDS Total Dissolved Solids?
Frank
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From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
I am using CS Pro's 170 V pulsed DC unit. The instructions for adjusting
Yes, TDS = Total Dissolved Solids. I am using a Sprite 6000, accurate to
about a tenth.
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From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL [mailto:f...@atlanticbb.net]
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Jim Is TDS Total
and distinct procedures?
I am confused.
Thx FCR
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From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
I am using CS Pro's 170 V pulsed DC unit. The instructions for adjusting
this process, I think. If not, I will send you
a sample, if you will analyze it.
-Original Message-
From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL [mailto:f...@atlanticbb.net]
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:11 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Jim, I understand that you may
Personally, I don't see a thing wrong with flexible plastic pipes.
They don't tend to break, crack or permanently swell when frozen, erode with acidic water, clog with calcium, clank with pressure surges. It costs a pile less to buy and install and formulations been changed since the near
Well, in this case there aren't any chloride ions, but point taken. [and
thanks]
At under 'X' concentration of all dissolved componants, there won't be any
precipitate or suspension, but solubility limits for the silver carbonates
are affected by the normal dissolved products of making CS without
Whatever is needed to allow it to contact the surface of the metal long
enough to plate out the silver. Easiest way would probably be to cap
one end, and pour it in and fill it up, let it stand a few minutes then
pour it back out.
Marshall
mborg...@att.net wrote:
Thank You for your reply.
Ode Coyote wrote:
Does silver acetate 'have' a solubility limit?
Anything that is not a liquid will have a solubility limit. At 10.2 grams per
liter, silver acetate is very soluble.
I derived the vinegar experiment from the field of making silver glazes for
pottery.
..sort of a back door
Ode Coyote wrote:
Personally, I don't see a thing wrong with flexible plastic pipes.
They don't tend to break, crack or permanently swell when frozen, erode with
acidic water, clog with calcium, clank with pressure surges. It costs a pile
less to buy and install and formulations been
It would probably be useless to plate the inside of copper water pipes
with silver.
Most water has a lot of minerals in it and it will drop out and cover
the insides of the pipes.
Of course, if your water is acidic, I don't believe this would happen;
you would be in trouble.
Why do you say
I will take advice
Thanks
Mary
-- Original message from Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com:
--
It would probably be useless to plate the inside of copper water pipes
with silver.
Most water has a lot of minerals in it and it will drop out and cover
the
Hi Marshall,
On 29 Sep 2005 at 11:40, Marshall Dudley wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Ode Coyote wrote:
Personally, I don't see a thing wrong with flexible plastic pipes.
They don't tend to break, crack or permanently swell when frozen,
erode with acidic water
If so, something else made it precipitate or it was something other than
silver carbonate.
Do dissolved silver oxides and hydroxides 'displace' the solubility of
silver carbonate?
Ode
At 01:34 PM 9/27/2005 -0400, you wrote:
FYI, silver carbonate has a solubility in cold water of 32 ppm.
Ode,
I have a question, I am replacing my water pipes can one obtain silver lined
pipes or is this necessary
Thanks
Mary
-- Original message from Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net:
--
If so, something else made it precipitate or it was something other than
silver
Ode Coyote wrote:
If so, something else made it precipitate or it was something other than
silver carbonate.
Do dissolved silver oxides and hydroxides 'displace' the solubility of
silver carbonate?
Yes, solubility depends on the chloride ion concentration, and as this
concentration
One could use copper pipes, and put them into silver nitrate for a while
to silver plate them. Cool idea actually.
Marshall
mborg...@att.net wrote:
Ode,
I have a question, I am replacing my water pipes can one obtain silver
lined pipes or is this necessary
Thanks
Mary
Thanks for the reply, question by coating with silver nitrate would silver
nitrate leach into the water or does it make some kind of transformation to
solid silver??
Also how does one obtain this much silver nitrate and isn't this dangerous
stuff???
Thanks again
Mary
-- Original
In the past, internally tinned copper tubing was available. I don't know
about now.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSodium Bicarb for starter
Silver nitrate is very soluble in water. Upon contact with copper, the
copper will replace the silver in the compound, putting a pure silver
coating on the copper, and producing copper nitrate in the solution,
which is also very soluble.
Flushing the pipes for 10 seconds would remove all traces
Thank You for your reply.
Does one pour this silver nitrate into a copper tube? or let it soak??
thanks
mary
-- Original message from Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com:
--
Silver nitrate is very soluble in water. Upon contact with copper, the copper
will replace
One day I dipped the tip of a toothpick into baking soda and mixed it into
the distilled water.
Everything when fine, nice clear CS at 20 PPM..OK cool.
But then a few hours later it all went dense milky white.
After a few hours exposure to light, stuff started settling out and going
darkish
FYI, silver carbonate has a solubility in cold water of 32 ppm. Acros Chemical
lists silver carbonate as light sensitive.
Marshall
Ode Coyote wrote:
One day I dipped the tip of a toothpick into baking soda and mixed it into
the distilled water.
Everything when fine, nice clear CS at 20
Hello:
Is there anything to be really concerned about in adding Sodium Bicarb to
Distilled water in small amounts, say to increase PPM to 5 before starting
the electrolytic process for CS? I had been using 25% CS ( 1000 ml Starter
plus 3000 ml Distilled) from the previous batches but have
Ian Roe wrote:
Hello:
Is there anything to be really concerned about in adding Sodium Bicarb to
Distilled water in small amounts, say to increase PPM to 5 before starting
the electrolytic process for CS?
If you do then you will be making silver carbonate. Little if any colloidal
silver
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