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2006-07-13 Thread sol
Marshall Dudley wrote: How does one measure their iron? Do you have to go to the doctor to get it done? Marshall, Where I live there are two health fairs a year, and you can have them do a ferritin test (forget if that is what they call it) as well as other blood tests, simple breathing

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2006-07-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Marshall writes: How does one measure their iron? Do you have to go to the doctor to get it done? You or your doctor have to ask the blood lab to measure your ferritin levels. It's an available test, but not usually part of the routine blood test package. Ferritin is a large, cage-like

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2006-07-12 Thread Marshall Dudley
How does one measure their iron? Do you have to go to the doctor to get it done? Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: Marshal, Thanks for the link. Confirms there's not a really good iron chelator known yet. Carol Ann, Totally independent of hemochromatosis, I've read that most males and post

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2006-07-11 Thread M. G. Devour
Marshal, Thanks for the link. Confirms there's not a really good iron chelator known yet. Carol Ann, Totally independent of hemochromatosis, I've read that most males and post menopausal women will tend to accumulate unhealthly levels of iron in their tissues because of the indiscriminate

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2006-07-10 Thread Ode Coyote
I think maybe the use of ritual symbolism is a step in dissolving a traditional *activity* similar to, The You are what you eat, so eat tiger hearts idea. Often an enemies heart or liver would be eaten to absorb the enemies fierceness...a high compliment and show of respect. It has been

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2006-07-10 Thread Carol Ann
Ode, True, That the RED CROSS may have been expecting greater causalities or seriously injured survivors is being linked directly to the govts direct role as a 9/11 participant. As to a War...justified or not, Americans certainly got one, didn't they :) As to begging for blood for

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2006-07-10 Thread Marshall Dudley
Article on iron chelation: http://sickle.bwh.harvard.edu/chelators.html Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: And on that (sour) note, let's not discuss the esoterica of the origins of the Red Cross or other items *NOT RELEVANT* to the health-related discussions at hand. Whether the blood I donate

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2006-07-10 Thread Carol Ann
Mike, Most men and women who donate blood for the reasons you mention do not have : Haemochromatosis, also spelled hemochromatosis, is a hereditary disease characterized by improper processing by the body of dietary iron which causes iron to accumulate in a number of body tissues, eventually

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2006-07-10 Thread Mark S. Siepak
The Red Cross via Mrs Bush was telling people to donate vast amounts of blood, would it be badly needed. What was said was that it could be frozen. Immediately called a doctor friend to verify that some new blood process was not on the market. Actually, I believe the plasma (serum, or liquid

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2006-07-10 Thread Carol Ann
What stunned me was that mrs. bush said repeatedly, the blood could be frozen for up to 10 years. At first, I thought what I heard was wrong, or that it was a mistake, until it was repeated several times. Here is some little publicized info as to what happened with the sea of blood collected

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2006-07-08 Thread M. G. Devour
And on that (sour) note, let's not discuss the esoterica of the origins of the Red Cross or other items *NOT RELEVANT* to the health-related discussions at hand. Whether the blood I donate this week ends up in the belly of a blood drinking cultist somewhere, or, more likely, the veins of a

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2006-07-08 Thread Ode Coyote
At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote: The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood drinkers. Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?] Therefore, the Red Cross are, today, organized vampires fattening people up, no one ever gets a transfusion and a blood bank is

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2006-07-08 Thread Jim Holmes
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote: The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood drinkers. Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?] Therefore, the Red Cross are, today

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2006-07-08 Thread Carol Ann
: Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind At 04:19 PM 7/7/2006 -0600, you wrote: The Red Cross was created by the very dynasties said to be ritual blood drinkers. Would that be Christians? [Rosycrutions?] Therefore

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2006-07-07 Thread debbiegerard99
Isn't giving blood supposed to be really good for you too?...debbie -- Original message -- From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Thanks, very interesting. I've been told if I donate blood to the red cross they will type my blood. I just think it might come in handy to

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2006-07-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
Probably depends on you. If you have that problem where you accumulate iron in your blood, it could be life saving. If you are badly anemic it could be deadly. Marshall debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Isn't giving blood supposed to be really good for you too?...debbie

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2006-07-07 Thread sol
So far as I know it is, particularly for men and post-menopausal women in the U.S. at least, as it reduces the level of iron in the blood, which most americans have too much of apparently. sol debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Isn't giving blood supposed to be really good for you

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2006-07-07 Thread Jim Holmes
: Friday, July 07, 2006 12:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood typing, was Re: CSThis man's best freind Isn't giving blood supposed to be really good for you too?...debbie -- Original message -- From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Thanks, very

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2006-07-07 Thread Teri Johnston
Mark. It is much easier to get admitted into medical school than veterinary school. The amount you listed in your first post, was it for several months of care with the tranfusions? If so it was a very good deal. I've had to pay that much for just a c-section on my dog in the recent past.

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2006-07-06 Thread Mark S. Siepak
When my elderly cat needed blood, what they said was that animal hospitals that need blood will have a universal donor animal available, usually one of the vet's or one of the tech's. Perhaps the problems mentioned were because of a lack of preparation/concern on the part of the vet: Whatever,

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2006-07-06 Thread Mark S. Siepak
BTW, that vet was not 'low tech', as you sneered. ALL transfusions are done that way, donor higher, recipient lower. The only reason blood is given from bags hung up is that the blood has been stored from donors who are not able to give transfusions in person. Could you imagine heart surgery,

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2006-07-06 Thread sol
I tried to find out my blood type a while back and was astounded to find that it is not routinely done anymore. I have had several major and minor surgeries at the local hospital over the years, and they never typed my blood and do not have it in my records. None of the local health fairs that

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2006-07-06 Thread Mark S. Siepak
If you have had major surgery that would require more than a couple of units (pints) of serum (which I don't think needs to be typed), your type is done then, but not recorded permanently. A lot of the 'public' are in condition white, ie, unaware of what is going on or important in the world, and

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2006-07-06 Thread sol
Thanks, very interesting. I've been told if I donate blood to the red cross they will type my blood. I just think it might come in handy to know someday. My husband knows his because (as you say) it is on his dog tags from his military service. sol Mark S. Siepak wrote: If you have had

Re: CSThis man's best freind - why low red blood cells? Lyme/Salt

2006-07-05 Thread Rowena
I hope you both have good salt in your water - sea salt or Himalayan or other non-refined, mineral-rich salt - as per the Lyme Salt/C treatment? (Lymephotos.com). Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at:

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2006-07-05 Thread bbanever
vaccination. - Original Message - From: Teri Johnston t...@welshspringers.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 7:20 AM Subject: Re: CSThis man's best freind Yes dogs do have blood typing as humans do. But that said in an emergency you can give blood to a dog without

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2006-07-05 Thread Marshall Dudley
That is correct. Our dog received one transfusion one time without typing. I think he charged us $25 or something like that for the transfusion, I know it wan't much. That vet kept a dog blood bank at the clinic, it was a large dog. He would put the large dog up high, the one to be transfused to

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2006-07-04 Thread Rowena
I just googled it and found the following... http://www.sniksnak.com/doghealth/anemia.html debbie Okay, so some of those things we can't treat anyway, though there's no history of trauma severing blood vessels. Sample items: Parasites - fleas, ticks, hookworms. Tumors. Diseases,

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2006-07-04 Thread toreadpeoplehealthinfo
oh dave, i'm so sorry to read about your little dog... don't give up on him, please ! not before you've found out what the real problem is. i'm a member of a lot of animal health groups and will be happy to help you get advice from all of them, once you find out what the underlying problem

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2006-07-04 Thread bbanever
...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: CSThis man's best freind I just got back from the Vet. They told me my dog's red blood count is so poor he should be comatose.( he nearly is)and they want to give him a blood transfusion, then fluid therapy

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2006-07-04 Thread Teri Johnston
Yes dogs do have blood typing as humans do. But that said in an emergency you can give blood to a dog without typing just once. But if you do it twice you dog may die from a condition called DIC. Had your dog received any vaccinations prior to becoming ill? Teri Johnston Retired Veterinary

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2006-07-04 Thread Wendy
I had one more thought that might offer you some free advice. Try www.abchomeopathy.com Go to the forum. Although mostly for people, it is possible someone will read your dogs case and advise. I have had excellent luck on a # of occasion of getting free advice that worked very well. I have

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2006-07-04 Thread ddarrin
thank you Teri He hasn't had shots for 10 years I gave him desicated liver and it had a remarkable effect. He now gets up and walks outside and looks alert but is still very slow. Dave Teri Johnston wrote: Yes dogs do have blood typing as humans do. But that said in an emergency you can give

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2006-07-04 Thread ddarrin
toreadpeoplehealthi...@gmail.com wrote: oh dave, i'm so sorry to read about your little dog... don't give up on him, please ! not before you've found out what the real problem is. i'm a member of a lot of animal health groups and will be happy to help you get advice from all of them, once

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2006-07-03 Thread ddarrin
I just got back from the Vet. They told me my dog's red blood count is so poor he should be comatose.( he nearly is)and they want to give him a blood transfusion, then fluid therapy with ringers lactate and prednisone for a number of months to the tune of $1,136.95 I love him very much but

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2006-07-03 Thread debbiegerard99
Do you belong to a group on Yahoo that have people that have experience with dog illnessesI wish you well for your dogdebbie -- Original message -- From: ddarrin ddar...@centurytel.net I just got back from the Vet. They told me my dog's red blood count is so

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2006-07-03 Thread ddarrin
Thank you Debbie No I don't have anything to do with yahoo --Only the silver list. debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: Do you belong to a group on Yahoo that have people that have experience with dog illnessesI wish you well for your dogdebbie -- Original message

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2006-07-03 Thread debbiegerard99
You might want to consider just this one time if you are hesitant about joining any groups...I have gotten on to some great groups and really get some awesome info and meet some really neat peopledebbie -- Original message -- From: ddarrin ddar...@centurytel.net

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2006-07-03 Thread Rowena
It occurs to me that whatever DNA, parasites, etc are in that dog are likely to get passed to your dog and add to his load. (Worms and germs fresh as can be). That alone, apart from blood typing, would be a huge burden. If they would give him a mineral boost intravenously, maybe. But no

Re: CSThis man's best freind - why low red blood cells?

2006-07-03 Thread debbiegerard99
I just googled it and found the following... http://www.sniksnak.com/doghealth/anemia.html debbie -- Original message -- From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au It occurs to me that whatever DNA, parasites, etc are in that dog are likely to get passed to your dog and add