Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-10 Thread Ode Coyote
A wick type swamp vaporizer will not work. It functions by evaporation similar to a steam maker. If there is a little rotor that throws water into the air..it'll work. Most ionic CS will 'probably' make it through the filter on an ultrasonic, but it's really easy to remove and not needed when

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-09 Thread Ode Coyote
Walmart has an ultrasonic humidifier that will do the nebulizing job for $34. Relion brand. [Make sure it says ultrasonic] Reloin has different types too. Remove filter, dump in home made very cheap CS and sit over the outlet and breath deep. It's also the best humidifier I ever saw or used.

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-09 Thread Grace1way
I bought a cool-mist vaporizer at Big Lots for $7.99, intending to use it to breathe CS mist. I figured that as long as the unit did not heat the CS, making steam and separating the H2O from the Ag, that this would work. Is that correct? Why remove filter, if using ionic silver? Is it

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-09 Thread Duncan Crow
You think N-A-C (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) would be useful? NAC would be useful as a glutathione precursor, but there are a couple of strong reasons that it's used in emergency situations and not as a daily supplement. First, although NAC does increase cysteine delivery to the cells it's treated

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-09 Thread Duncan Crow
I bought a cool-mist vaporizer at Big Lots for $7.99, intending to use it to breathe CS mist. I figured that as long as the unit did not heat the CS, making steam and separating the H2O from the Ag, that this would work. Is that correct? Why remove filter, if using ionic silver? Is it

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-08 Thread Duncan Crow
italic[How is that different from the stainless steel plates in other ionizers? I never detected any heat in one of those either. How does an Aranizer compare to any other good air ionizer in both ozone and NOx levels? An Aranizer is an ozone generator, right? ...Not an air ionizer.

CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-08 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
There are alot of lawsuits out there pending regarding various ozone air purification devices, and I've reviewed reports from devestated parents who have used such devices, whose children have apparently experienced permanent lung damage from the use of such machines. While I cannot vouch for the

CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-08 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi Ken, My sister has a Pug who was overdosed on steroids (not the vet's fault), and has ruined his immune system. He now has aspergillis in his lungs and after 5 shots of an antibiotic of the last resort, was no better. I offered to let her use my Multi Tech XJ-3000C, air purification system

CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-08 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
Hi Jean, I hear you, and I know there are people who have apparently been really helped by devices like these. But I honestly do not know what the cause is for my little girl's asthma problem at this time. For the past few months she has taken albuterol only infrequently, but in the past couple

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-08 Thread Nenah Sylver
, August 08, 2005 2:53 PM Subject: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS Hi Jean, I hear you, and I know there are people who have apparently been really helped by devices like these. But I honestly do not know what the cause is for my little girl's asthma problem at this time. For the past few

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-08 Thread Duncan Crow
My little girl has for the past 36 hours of so been coughing and wheezing and short of breath, and the albuterol we are currently giving her (temporarily until I get a nebulizer and some CS) is barely working. I beginning to wonder if the ionizers are at fault. -Ken Ken, before you blame

CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-08 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
Hi Duncan, You think N-A-C (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) would be useful? I heard that is a cystine containing compound, and at one time, it was purported to be helpful to those with emphysema, but then that was retracted because they couldn't agree on whether it really reduced mucous or not. I guess I

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-07 Thread Ode Coyote
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:_i0P3n_gYgMJ:www.hcl-intl.cc/products/bulletins/17227.pdf+Aranizer+ozone+levelhl=en Ozone is destroyed when it contacts mucus membranes. [OK, so maybe ozone doesn't harm lung 'tissue' because it never reaches it. But it is destroyed by oxidizing the

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-07 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Musical drills -- an innovation of symphonic proportions! The Chicago Industrial Orchestra will be interested! On Sunday, Aug 7, 2005, at 08:38 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote: My drills don't corrode inside, but the chords do fall apart. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-06 Thread Ode Coyote
Ozone will break down virtually any organic molecule and living cell. [Makes a really good water sterilizer] If the concentration isn't too high and cells can replicate faster than they are destroyed, if ozone kills off weak cells faster and at lower concentrations than strong cells, perhaps

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-06 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - From: Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 11:46 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS Sharon... Do you think that your Ozone machine would work in my basement? My house is 100 years old

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-06 Thread Connie Howard
Thanks... I'lll try your idea. connie On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 23:08:48 -0400 starshar stars...@comcast.net writes: From: Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com Sharon... Do you think that your Ozone machine would work in my basement? My house is 100 years old and has gone through a lot of

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-06 Thread Connie Howard
:46 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS Sharon... Do you think that your Ozone machine would work in my basement? My house is 100 years old and has gone through a lot of moisture being dumped under the house; that couple with Racoons, cats, skunks, etc the smell

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-06 Thread Jason
Hi all: To help throw some balance on the issue, I'd like to make a few comments, and provide a few links. There are those who experience permanent lung damage from ambient ozone. I believe that a sensitivity to pure, low concentration ozone is likely pretty rare, but it does exist. I

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-05 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: CSasthma and CS, again Thanks everyone for the ideas. I'm especially interest in the salt lamps, too. I'm using 3 ionizers in the house

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-05 Thread Jason
Hi Nenah: I'll second that... A Big second. Ozone, however, must be used with understanding, especially if being used as an air purifier. I say this not because ozone, in itself, is dangerous. There is no evidence to suggest this. The problem is that ozone is such a powerful oxidizing

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-05 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
Hi Nenah, Re the below...I noticed you never responded to Garnet on this one. Although, I'm willing to hear you out. http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m75477.html Do you have an online material like what is found in your book? The air cleaner units I have are seen here:

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-05 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS Hi Nenah, Re the below...I noticed you never responded to Garnet on this one. Although, I'm willing

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-05 Thread starshar
From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net Ken, you don't *need* to be a rocket scientist. If you want, you can call the Aranizer company and ask them for a reprint of an article that explains how so many conflicting opinions came to be. In my sauna therapy book, I quote that article and bring

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-05 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I believe that one need not be rich or expensively educated to discover important things. If you spend some time studying those things that interest you, you may have a breakthrough. Note that the creator of the periodic table of the elements, for example, was just a high school chemistry

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-05 Thread starshar
From: Connie Howard craehow...@juno.com Sharon... Do you think that your Ozone machine would work in my basement? My house is 100 years old and has gone through a lot of moisture being dumped under the house; that couple with Racoons, cats, skunks, etc the smell coming from the basement is

Re: CSasthma and CS, again/OZONE IONS

2005-08-05 Thread Connie Howard
Sharon... Do you think that your Ozone machine would work in my basement? My house is 100 years old and has gone through a lot of moisture being dumped under the house; that couple with Racoons, cats, skunks, etc the smell coming from the basement is not very good. My house is 850 sq ft with a