Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
How far are you from Rock Springs in Sweetwater county Wyoming? I bet they have good spring water there. Marshall sol wrote: Southwest wyoming, high altitude desert. The only water sources right here are Bitter Creek (poisonous with alkali) and the Green River. The city takes water out of

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-18 Thread sol
Rock Springs is the big city to the east 15 miles. All Rock Springs municipal water comes from the Green River, same as Green River city water does. I called the historical museum, and Rock Springs did get its name from a spring. In stage coach days the stage used to stop there. The

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
Maybe your area is simply too dry. But since I have spent quite a bit of time in the woods and forest in the past, I have found that at least in Tennessee finding springs is easy. Either walk the river, or on the road dive, until you cross a year round creek. Then walk up the creek, and

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-18 Thread sol
There are no woods or forest here, no naturally growing trees at all except right along beside the river. It really is a desert. sol Marshall Dudley wrote: Maybe your area is simply too dry. But since I have spent quite a bit of time in the woods and forest in the past, I have found that at

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread Ode Coyote
## Anything over the vaporization point will get rid of something at least as well as *at* that point. Since water cools itself as it boils *by* releasing vapors, it won't go much over it's boiling temperature at a given atmospheric pressure. I would *think* that most distilled water is

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread sol
Marshall Dudley wrote: I think it is an excellent idea. However since it has not been determined whether the contamination is of lower or higher boiling point than water, the last should not be distilled either, the contamination may be coming over in the last 10% instead of the first 10%.

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread sol
Marshall Dudley wrote: Can you try some other sources of water, rainwater or from a spring maybe. No springs or well water sources available here. Would have been interesting. Maybe if we ever get enough rain, but that won't likely be until April at least. If we get another good snowfall what

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread mborgert
Anyone try prill beads, we use it and it does take out most toxins Mary -- Original message from sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com: -- Marshall Dudley wrote: I think it is an excellent idea. However since it has not been determined whether the contamination is of

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote: Marshall Dudley wrote: I think it is an excellent idea. However since it has not been determined whether the contamination is of lower or higher boiling point than water, the last should not be distilled either, the contamination may be coming over in the last 10% instead of the

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote: Marshall Dudley wrote: Can you try some other sources of water, rainwater or from a spring maybe. No springs or well water sources available here. Would have been interesting. Maybe if we ever get enough rain, but that won't likely be until April at least. If we get another good

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread dingyung49
I have prill beads but hardly use it.    how do you know it takes out toxins? my blood test lead level very high! --- On Tue, 2/17/09, mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net wrote: From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net Subject: Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread sol
Southwest wyoming, high altitude desert. The only water sources right here are Bitter Creek (poisonous with alkali) and the Green River. The city takes water out of the river considerably upstream from the confluence of the Bitter Creek into the river though. I could be wrong about no springs,

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: At 12:00 AM 2/14/2009 +0005, you wrote: Can you pre-boil your feed water for a while before putting it in the distiller, so as to drive off any volatiles with lower boiling points? ## Sounds like a plan to me! Or is there a way to vent the vapor for a while before you

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote: Clayton Family wrote: I had one thought, which concerns the distiller- if the distiller is old, maybe something inside it has corroded, or possibly is has gotten gunked up with minerals. I suppose you have considered this already, which is why I didn't mention it before. It IS old

RE: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-16 Thread Norton, Steve
of carbon), alumina (aluminum oxide) and a fluoride ion exchange resin. - Steve N -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling? Don't know about acid rain

RE: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-16 Thread Norton, Steve
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSfluoride removed by distilling? From: http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistryhowtoguide/a/removefluoride.htm How to Remove Fluoride from Drinking Water Ways to Remove Fluoride from Water * Reverse Osmosis Filtration This is used to purify

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Norton, Steve wrote: From: http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistryhowtoguide/a/removefluoride.htm How to Remove Fluoride from Drinking Water Ways to Remove Fluoride from Water * Reverse Osmosis Filtration This is used to purify several types of bottled water (not all), so some bottled

RE: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-16 Thread Norton, Steve
I meant to comment on this: Adding activated charcoal during the boiling is a cheap way of removing fluoride and other unwanted compounds. Ted http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/water.html Just add activated charcoal to your distiller when distilling water. - Steve N -- The Silver List

RE: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-16 Thread Norton, Steve
The correct link below s/b http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/distilled_water_questions.html -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSfluoride removed by distilling? I

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-14 Thread Ode Coyote
At 12:00 AM 2/14/2009 +0005, you wrote: Something has changed in the water here in the last couple years. I'll repeat that it used to be that several months of the year I could put filtered cold tap water into the still and get out DW of about .2uS. The remaining months of the year it took

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-14 Thread Clayton Family
I had one thought, which concerns the distiller- if the distiller is old, maybe something inside it has corroded, or possibly is has gotten gunked up with minerals. I suppose you have considered this already, which is why I didn't mention it before. I agree with the idea of preboiling- before

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-14 Thread sol
M. G. Devour wrote: I imagine you've been over this all before with Ken, sol, but a few questions: Can you pre-boil your feed water for a while before putting it in the distiller, so as to drive off any volatiles with lower boiling points? Hi MIke, Never tried that. Perhaps mistakenly, I

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-14 Thread sol
Ode Coyote wrote: ## Might be an acid rain difference between summer and winter? Coal plants in the hood? Vegetation in the river difference, maybe. Cold water can dissolve more gases into itself [oddly enough] Intuitive disconnect. Don't know about acid rain, but the weather patterns here

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-14 Thread sol
Clayton Family wrote: I had one thought, which concerns the distiller- if the distiller is old, maybe something inside it has corroded, or possibly is has gotten gunked up with minerals. I suppose you have considered this already, which is why I didn't mention it before. It IS old but

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-13 Thread M. G. Devour
Something has changed in the water here in the last couple years. I'll repeat that it used to be that several months of the year I could put filtered cold tap water into the still and get out DW of about .2uS. The remaining months of the year it took putting the water through the still twice

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-13 Thread sol
I must not have been clear again. I do NOT think I have fluoride in my finished distilled water, I considered briefly it as a remote possibility IF the statement that distilling does not remove fluoride was true. Your info and the info from others ruled out the idea that distilling does not

RE: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-12 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
I HAVE ALWAYS SAID MY water comes out better when I do not fill my distiller full. I always fill 1/2 to 3/4 or 2 to 3 quarts on a 1 gallon distiller. I have seen on newer models they have like a baffle plate standing off from The vapor hole in the condenser head looks like the baffle was to stop

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-12 Thread Sharlene Miyamura
Hi Frank, Fluorine gas, as in fluorocarbons (regarding the newer refrigerants) are supposed to have a low boiling point, why would this be? Is it because it is combined with the carbon or ethane? Can this type of gas also be soluble in water? Also where do one get glass beads? Thank you,

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-12 Thread sol
Water boils here at around 195-198 F degrees (going from memory, it might be less, I haven't checked it for years and years) not the sea level 212 F. That is 90-92 C if the online converter is accurate (joke). So I don't think the still is overheating, and the drip from the condenser is very

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-12 Thread frankcuns-r...@comcast.net
Sol What makes you believe you have fluoride in your distilled water? Frank sol wrote: Water boils here at around 195-198 F degrees (going from memory, it might be less, I haven't checked it for years and years) not the sea level 212 F. That is 90-92 C if the online converter is accurate

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-11 Thread frankcuns-r...@comcast.net
Hi There is a difference between fluorine and fluoride. Fluorine is a free gas and has a boiling point of about -180C but a tiny amount dissolves in water at room temperature and it is boiled off by distillation. Fluoride is an anion usually bound to a mineral such as sodium or calcium, etc by

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-11 Thread frankcuns-r...@comcast.net
A word of advice when distilling. The amount of heat one needs to apply is that just necessary to produce vapors. In other words, once you start distilling use the least amount of heat possible. You want to avoid over-boiling. It is also advisable to add glass beads to the water to be

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to find the temperature at which fluoride volatizes. I've just been told that distilling does not remove fluoride, but never heard that before. Supposedly reverse osmosis is the only process that does remove fluoride from water. First you have to identify which

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-11 Thread sol
What does open distillation mean? I was told that fluoride (such as is added to municipal water in the U.S. will not distill out by an email correspondent. I have asked for her source for the statement, but haven't heard back yet. thanks, sol frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote: Hi There is a

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-11 Thread sol
frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote: A word of advice when distilling. The amount of heat one needs to apply is that just necessary to produce vapors. In other words, once you start distilling use the least amount of heat possible. You want to avoid over-boiling. It is also advisable to add glass

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-11 Thread frankcuns-r...@comcast.net
Sol, At 6300 ft =2100 meters! Without looking at your distiller I can't tell you. Distillers are made to generate enough BTU to gently boil the amount of water in the still at standard conditions of temperature and pressure. The pressure at 2100 meters is much lower than that at sea level and

Re: CSfluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-11 Thread frankcuns-r...@comcast.net
Sol If what they told you is that fluoride will not distill out they have have meant that you will not find fluoride in the distillate which is whet should be. Regards Frank sol wrote: What does open distillation mean? I was told that fluoride (such as is added to municipal water in the U.S.