date:20080506

Can anyone re-post the address of where to get the nebulizer which was $54 
(Smitty?) please as I saved it to a folder, but cannot find it now (!)  
typical!  It is for CS and I think you only had to put in an ounce or so.  Many 
thanks in advance.  Dee  


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Re: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Field Therapy Devices

No, but it looks interesting Marshall.  Unfortunately, the cost is
prohibitive!  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 05/05/2008 16:00:44
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Field Therapy Devices

Has anyone looked at, or used one of these. On another list someone was
saying that this device really works.

http://www.integratedhealth.com/healing-tools/index.html

Marshall

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Re: CSGiving shots to humans

You can prove this, how?  It maybe that the shots *didn't* have anything to
do with it, but it would be difficult to *prove* that they didn't.  After
reading much information on some of the deadly effects vaccines can and
*have* had, I would keep an open mind on that one. Dee 

---Original Message---

From: faith gagne
Date: 05/05/2008 17:39:55
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSGiving shots to humans

Wrong.

- Original Message -
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: faith gagne jitte...@gis.net
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: CSGiving shots to humans

 Probably not the tetanus, quite possibly the shots though. If not the
 tetanus shots than most likely one of the other you've incurred over your
 life.

Re: CSHigh Blood Pressure, High, Low, and Normal

2008-05-06 Thread kmilkowski

Thanks Wayne, this is great!

 Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote: 
 Evening Smitty,
 
   At 08:01 PM 5/5/2008, you wrote:
 
 Wayne. . . . I have read something about high blood pressure
 readings. The docs lowered the *normal* numbers and
 as a result, the medicos are selling more HBP meds.
 Have you heard about this ?
 
Not sure the DOC's did it.  The AMA, the Drug companies, and the Medical 
 Profession wanted
 everyone to be sick or have some ailment.
 
Yes, been hearing about it for some time.
 
 More on your question later, but first I need to beat around the bush and 
 state some ideas and
 opinions.
 
 First, ...  High, Low, and Normal are bordering on Fuzzy Logic and 
 cannot be defined.
 ( by ordinary means and methods )
 
 Blood pressure is a symptom and NOT A Disease.  It never has been.
 It is addressed and treated which is often a very bad thing.
 
 The blood pressure often goes up for a very good reason and can save ones 
 life.
 
 If a bear is chasing you, it better go up, .. and as high as 
 possible.  Also your emergency energy system needs to kick in, if it is 
 possible for this to happen.
 
 Over the years, my blood pressure would go up when I needed to eat.
 Supplying energy to the brain is near Number ONE priority, the heart is 
 second.
 Whether the brain or heart gets priority is a complex subject.  The heart 
 may be first.
 
 If the brain runs our of energy, you can pass out, hit a bridge, a tree, a 
 telephone pole or another vehicle.  Thus and therefore, the blood pressure 
 going up, is often a life saving maneuver.
 ( or if the electrolytes are way our of balance, or non existent )
 
 The body is very intelligent, Often I refer to  The body control system 
 simply because I think,
 Control Systems.  It is also intercellular communications, call it what 
 you wish.
 
 I fully realize that some conditions in the body can keep the blood 
 pressure above normal, virtually all the time.   Addressing the true 
 ailment and cause would be much better than simply lowering the blood 
 pressure.
 
 Vitamins, Minerals, Electrolytes, and energy levels all play an important 
 part.
 And of course, a diabetic has a multitude of problems that I will not address.
 
 If the blood glucose is too high, the brain will not use it, so one will 
 feel lightheaded just like they do if the glucose is low.
 
 Again, many of my ideas are from observation, not from some bogus lies I read.
 Remember, I am a human being also.  My blood pressure has been high, and it 
 has been low.
 
 I never get a headache from blood pressure.  Remember Salt is very 
 important, as are all
 electrolytes.
 
 It can be made go up and can be made go down by nutrients and food.
 Often in the morning, my reading will be 117 over 72 with a heart rate in 
 the 50's.
 
 I rather it be 130 to 135 over 80 to 85.  Even 90 is ok and 140 is ok.
 
 Due to ones physical condition, circulatory condition and maybe  serious 
 ailments, the blood pressure must be a bit higher for them to feel good and 
 function.
 
 Too High and Too Low must be determined by the individual, NO stupid doctor 
 knows what is best for you or for me.  I know what is right for me, and can 
 usually put it exactly there.
 
 I am positive that it is a Bald Faced Lie that high blood pressure causes 
 stroke.
 
 No fool engineer would design a piping system that could not stand more 
 pressure than the pump can provide.
 
 The blood vessels are 10 times as strong as any pressure the heart can 
 deliver.
 That is,  good blood vessels, not bad or damaged one.  Healthy people, not 
 sick people
 
 Weak blood vessels causes strokes.  The genius body control system does not 
 consider the weakness of your blood vessels when it make the decision to 
 increase the blood pressure.
 
 Energy for the heart is of utmost importance, just like for the brain.
 The heart muscle uses energy at two times the rate of any other cells.
 
 If the energy is low, very low, for an extended time, one can have a heart 
 attack and even have permanent damage to the heart, and they can DIE, just 
 because of a lack of energy.
 Inadequate electrolytes caused many heart abnormalities.  Get them right 
 and keep them right.
 
 The brain and the heart are much alike in energy requirements.  It must be 
 there or the person is at risk for many things, accidents, and you name it.
 
 I have great sympathy for Diabetics.  Most fight a constant battle, 24 
 hours per day, even when sleeping.
 
 Most of what I say does not apply to them.  They are in a world of their 
 own, and must do their own study to arrive at what is best.
 
 One great writer, Karl Loren states.   The diet recommended by the American 
 Diabetes Association causes Diabetes.  Also he says the same thing about 
 the American Heart Association.
 
 
 Here is a block relative to the standards.
 
   Read it and Weep
 
 Hypertension has been variously defined as a systolic pressure higher than:

CSPacemaker

A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my computer.  I don't 
know how long I was there.  When I woke up I was very nauseated and sick.  I 
laid down for awhile but could not recover from the nausea and sickness. 
Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to the hospital.  This is not an 
isolated incident.  A few months ago I went into the bathroom to brush my 
teeth and woke up on the bathroom floor.  I just go 'boom' with no warning. 
I am not always nauseated but when I am nauseated it seems that I am unable 
to recover from the nausea without some type of medication.


While in the hospital I wore a telemetry unit and a holter monitor and it 
was discovered that my heart rate dropped to 30 one night .  It also dropped 
to 50 quite often.  I am also experiencing a few missed heart beats and this 
is why my cardiologist thinks I might need a pacemaker.  I had open heart 
surgery 11 years ago for a single by-pass and an aortic valve replacement 
(the same surgery Arnold Swarzenager (sp?) had voluntarily to improve the 
quality of his life).  I am waiting to see a specialist sometime within the 
next few weeks about a pacemaker possibly.


Anyone else wear a pacemaker?  Thanks.  Faith G.



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CSPacemaker, The Heart or NOT ?

2008-05-06 Thread Wayne Fugitt


Morning Faith,

 At 08:21 AM 5/6/2008, you wrote:

I read all your message, more than once.  Glad to have the insight but 
sorry you have the problems described.


I won't address all the points and issues.  Too many and some are 
irrelevant anyway.


But what I will tell you is, Etched in Stone   no two ways about it.

You best try to understand them because I doubt that any of your genius 
doctors know the facts or else the AMA Law prohibits them from telling you.


First, ... why blame the heart ?

The heart is like an engine, with no fuel, no coil, no wiring, no 
intelligence to do anything.


It is Worthless alone, and it will stop working, ... 
period,  without a few essentials.


The heart can be damaged beyond repair,  blockage, filled with scar tissue, 
deformed valves,

weak, very weak,  even blockage to the heart can produce problems,  but
if any or all this is the case,  How can the pacemaker make it perform like 
a perfect heart ?


No way under the sun.

I have had a number of friends that had similar problems.  One, ... his 
heart would slow down to the 40's at night.  His arms would hurt, and he 
would have a seizure virtually every night.


And the Witches Brew solved his problem in less than 24 hours and he has 
been seizure free

for a year and half or more.

Except in one or two instances whereas he worked too hard, long hours, did 
not eat enough,

and did not take the witches brew.

I have said all this before, but I guess I have to say it again.
It applies to the young, the old, the weak, the strong, mountain climbers, 
marathon runners,

bicycle racers,   and older weak people,  and no matter if your name is
Rambo, Arnold, or Milo of Cortan, .. better do some things right or 
one can become
a statistic, in short order.  Even with a strong and healthy heart, the 
essentials are required.


One friend had irregular heart beat so bad at times he could not talk.  He 
went to some genius doctor that did 18,000 dollars worth of test and told 
him,...


There is nothing wrong with your heart.  Further the doctor stated that 
many people have these and it does not hurt very much.   Was the doctor a 
Fool or Not ?

Not worth one good bullet in my book.

Of course the lungs and the circulatory system would deprive the heart of 
the essentials it needs to work.  But like the brain, this is a 24 hour a 
day job. 1440 minutes every day and 86,400 seconds.


Did you treat the heart right ?  Did you give it what it needs to function ?

Older people have to eat more often.  They have to eat different food than 
a healthy 20 or 30 year old person.  It must be virtually pre digested ( 
for some ).   If your HCL is low, or any digestive problem exists,


Guess What ?   The heart may be the first to suffer and tell you about it.

I remember a few of your freaky and  mentally controlled eating 
habits.  Some did not seem the best for your heart.


Remember only a minute or two of short supply to the heart can be 
disastrous.  Some people hit their head when they pass our, and DIE as the 
result.


If you were really an expert at managing your mail, you could search 10, 
20, or 50,000 messages and find out all you need to know.


Or. If you want to trust your doctor,  many die in the operating room.

I had a good friend that was my favorite nurse.  She was a mainstream 
believer and the doctor told her she needed heart surgery.  6 hours later, 
the report stated she was doing fine.

She died within 24 hours.

Fact is, without the stupid surgery, she would be alive today. Her son, a 
nurse even stated the same thing.


 A few months ago I went into the bathroom to brush my teeth and woke up 
on the bathroom  floor.  I just go 'boom' with no warning. I am not 
always nauseated but when I am nauseated it  seems that I am unable to 
recover from the nausea without some type of medication.


Your problems may be many, instead of few.

While in the hospital I wore a telemetry unit and a holter monitor and it 
was discovered that my heart rate dropped to 30 one night .  It also 
dropped to 50 quite often.


  Likely some drugs, or  energy, minerals, electrolytes being low or non 
existent  contribute to the problem.  This can happen even if you do not 
have many other body chemistry or organ problems.

Or if you have no other problems.

 I am also experiencing a few missed heart beats and this is why my 
cardiologist thinks I might need a pacemaker.


  It could help, but no matter, everything I tell you is of utmost 
important, pace maker of not.


 I had open heart surgery 11 years ago for a single by-pass and an aortic 
valve replacement (the same surgery Arnold Swarzenager (sp?) had 
voluntarily to improve the quality of his life).  I am waiting to see a 
specialist sometime within the next few weeks about a pacemaker possibly.

  Which type of valve did you have ?  The plastic or the organic material ?


Anyone else wear a pacemaker?  Thanks.  Faith

Re: CSPacemaker


Hi Faith,

Sorry to hear about your trouble. My grandmother also experienced 
similar passing out, and it was determined after quite some time and 
tests that she needed alot of extra salt.  She ended up taking salt 
pills.   This might be an easy thing to do on your own, to take a gram 
of salt and see if that brings up your blood pressure.  If you have an 
at home blood pressure monitor you can check it yourself. They are not 
too expensive, around 30 dollars or so.


It would be a shame to have heart surgery if it could be corrected by 
electrolytes.  I also know other people who use salt in this way.


I am wondering if they checked your sodium and potassium levels?  This 
is a pretty common thing to check here.


Kathryn

On May 6, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Faith Gagne wrote:

A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my computer.  I 
don't know how long I was there.  When I woke up I was very nauseated 
and sick.  I laid down for awhile but could not recover from the 
nausea and sickness. Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to 
the hospital.  This is not an isolated incident.  A few months ago I 
went into the bathroom to brush my teeth and woke up on the bathroom 
floor.  I just go 'boom' with no warning. I am not always nauseated 
but when I am nauseated it seems that I am unable to recover from the 
nausea without some type of medication.


While in the hospital I wore a telemetry unit and a holter monitor and 
it was discovered that my heart rate dropped to 30 one night .  It 
also dropped to 50 quite often.  I am also experiencing a few missed 
heart beats and this is why my cardiologist thinks I might need a 
pacemaker.  I had open heart surgery 11 years ago for a single by-pass 
and an aortic valve replacement (the same surgery Arnold Swarzenager 
(sp?) had voluntarily to improve the quality of his life).  I am 
waiting to see a specialist sometime within the next few weeks about a 
pacemaker possibly.


Anyone else wear a pacemaker?  Thanks.  Faith G.



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Re: CSPacemaker

I'm sorry to hear this Faith, and hope you find out what is causing it soon.
 Just a thought, do you take magnesium because this is supposed to be good
for the heart.. I had a similar thing to this years ago, but I had taken an
anti-biotic and forgot that you are not supposed to take other medication
with it.  I too fainted and had nausea; also having to have medication to
stop it.  Hope you find an answer soon.  Dee 
---Original Message---

From: Faith Gagne
Date: 06/05/2008 14:22:12
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPacemaker

  A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my computer.  I don't
know how long I was there.  When I woke up I was very nauseated and sick.  I
laid down for awhile but could not recover from the nausea and sickness.
Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to the hospital.

Re: CSPacemaker

2008-05-06 Thread B Magnatta

I can second the magnesium.  My daughter Faith also with a heart condition ,
but from birth, had 2 clinically fatal heart attacks, ... They were really
MSG reactions , but many times if one goes to the hospital with some kind of
heart rhythm problem, they give magnesium to stabilize.  Maybe calcium is
part of the problem too as they are balanced.  It would be a good idea to
check out the MSG reactions to see if that fits your diet, and what symptoms
you're having... Just google, or ask jeeves, theres more than you can read
in a day ., lol
 
Sincerely Barb M. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Dee
Date: 5/6/2008 2:30:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker
 
I'm sorry to hear this Faith, and hope you find out what is causing it soon.
 Just a thought, do you take magnesium because this is supposed to be good
for the heart.. I had a similar thing to this years ago, but I had taken an
anti-biotic and forgot that you are not supposed to take other medication
with it.  I too fainted and had nausea; also having to have medication to
stop it.  Hope you find an answer soon.  Dee 
---Original Message---
 
From: Faith Gagne
Date: 06/05/2008 14:22:12
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPacemaker
 
  A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my computer.  I don't
know how long I was there.  When I woke up I was very nauseated and sick.  I
laid down for awhile but could not recover from the nausea and sickness.
Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to the hospital.

CSwitches brew


Hi Wayne,

your brew sounds interesting. Can you say what all might go into it?

kathryn


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Re: CSPacemaker

Hi Kathryn.  thanks very much.  I will put it on my list of things that must 
be done.  Faith G.

- Original Message - 
From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

Hi Faith,

Sorry to hear about your trouble. My grandmother also experienced similar 
passing out, and it was determined after quite some time and tests that 
she needed alot of extra salt.  She ended up taking salt pills.   This 
might be an easy thing to do on your own, to take a gram of salt and see 
if that brings up your blood pressure.  If you have an at home blood 
pressure monitor you can check it yourself. They are not too expensive, 
around 30 dollars or so.

It would be a shame to have heart surgery if it could be corrected by 
electrolytes.  I also know other people who use salt in this way.

I am wondering if they checked your sodium and potassium levels?  This is 
a pretty common thing to check here.

Kathryn

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Re: CSPacemaker

Thanks Dee.  Yes, I do take magnesium.  Maybe I don't take enough.  How much do 
you take?  Thanks.  Faith G.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:29 PM
  Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I'm sorry to hear this Faith, and hope you find out what is causing it 
soon.  Just a thought, do you take magnesium because this is supposed to be 
good for the heart.. I had a similar thing to this years ago, but I had taken 
an anti-biotic and forgot that you are not supposed to take other medication 
with it.  I too fainted and had nausea; also having to have medication to stop 
it.  Hope you find an answer soon.  Dee 
---Original Message---

From: Faith Gagne
Date: 06/05/2008 14:22:12
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPacemaker

  A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my computer.  I 
don't
know how long I was there.  When I woke up I was very nauseated and 
sick.  I
laid down for awhile but could not recover from the nausea and sickness.
Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to the hospital.

Re: CSPacemaker

I do not use MSG ever.  thanks.  Faith G.

  - Original Message - 
  From: B Magnatta 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:16 PM
  Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I can second the magnesium.  My daughter Faith also with a heart 
condition , but from birth, had 2 clinically fatal heart attacks, ... They were 
really MSG reactions , but many times if one goes to the hospital with some 
kind of heart rhythm problem, they give magnesium to stabilize.  Maybe calcium 
is part of the problem too as they are balanced.  It would be a good idea to 
check out the MSG reactions to see if that fits your diet, and what symptoms 
you're having... Just google, or ask jeeves, theres more than you can read in a 
day ., lol

Sincerely Barb M. 

---Original Message---

From: Dee
Date: 5/6/2008 2:30:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I'm sorry to hear this Faith, and hope you find out what is causing it 
soon.  Just a thought, do you take magnesium because this is supposed to be 
good for the heart.. I had a similar thing to this years ago, but I had taken 
an anti-biotic and forgot that you are not supposed to take other medication 
with it.  I too fainted and had nausea; also having to have medication to stop 
it.  Hope you find an answer soon.  Dee 
---Original Message---

From: Faith Gagne
Date: 06/05/2008 14:22:12
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPacemaker

  A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my computer.  I 
don't
know how long I was there.  When I woke up I was very nauseated and 
sick.  I
laid down for awhile but could not recover from the nausea and sickness.
Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to the hospital.

Re: CSPacemaker, The Heart or NOT ?

2008-05-06 Thread mborgert

What is the "witches brew"???
Mary
-- Original message from Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com: -- Morning Faith, At 08:21 AM 5/6/2008, you wrote:I read all your message, more than once. Glad to have the insight but sorry you have the problems described.I won't address all the points and issues. Too many and some are irrelevant anyway.But what I will tell you is, "Etched in Stone" no two ways about it.You best try to understand them because I doubt that any of your genius doctors know the facts or else the AMA Law prohibits them from telling you.First, ... why blame the heart ?The heart is like an engine, with no fuel, no coil, no wiring, no intelligence to do anything.It is Worthless alone, and it will stop working, ... period, without a few essentials.The heart can be
damaged beyond repair, blockage, filled with scar tissue, deformed valves,weak, very weak, even blockage to the heart can produce problems, butif any or all this is the case, How can the pacemaker make it perform like a perfect heart ?No way under the sun.I have had a number of friends that had similar problems. One, ... his heart would slow down to the 40's at night. His arms would hurt, and he would have a seizure virtually every night.And the "Witches Brew" solved his problem in less than 24 hours and he has been seizure freefor a year and half or more.Except in one or two instances whereas he worked too hard, long hours, did not eat enough,and did not take the witches brew.I have said all this before, but I guess I have to say it again.It applies to the young, the old, the weak, the strong, mountain climbers, marathon runners,bicycle racers, and older weak
people, and no matter if your name isRambo, Arnold, or Milo of Cortan, .. better do some things right or one can become a statistic, in short order. Even with a strong and healthy heart, the essentials are required. One friend had irregular heart beat so bad at times he could not talk. He went to some genius doctor that did 18,000 dollars worth of test and told him,..."There is nothing wrong with your heart". Further the doctor stated that many people have these and it does not hurt very much. Was the doctor a Fool or Not ?Not worth one good bullet in my book.Of course the lungs and the circulatory system would deprive the heart of the essentials it needs to work. But like the brain, this is a 24 hour a day job. 1440 minutes every day and 86,400 seconds.Did you treat the heart right ? Did you give it what it needs to function ?Older people have to eat more often. T
hey have to eat different food than a healthy 20 or 30 year old person. It must be virtually pre digested ( for some ). If your HCL is low, or any digestive problem exists,Guess What ? The heart may be the first to suffer and tell you about it.I remember a few of your freaky and mentally controlled eating habits. Some did not seem the best for your heart.Remember only a minute or two of short supply to the heart can be disastrous. Some people hit their head when they pass our, and DIE as the result.If you were really an expert at managing your mail, you could search 10, 20, or 50,000 messages and find out all you need to know.Or. If you want to trust your doctor, many die in the operating room.I had a good friend that was my favorite nurse. She was a mainstream believer and the doctor told her she needed heart surgery. 6 hours later, the report stated she was do
ing fine.She died within 24 hours.Fact is, without the stupid surgery, she would be alive today. Her son, a nurse even stated the same thing. A few months ago I went into the bathroom to brush my teeth and woke up on the bathroom floor. I just go 'boom' with no warning. I am not always nauseated but when I am nauseated it seems that I am unable to recover from the nausea without some type of medication. Your problems may be many, instead of few.
While in the hospital I wore a telemetry unit and a holter monitor and it was discovered that my heart rate dropped to 30 one night . It also dropped to 50 quite often. Likely some drugs, or energy, minerals, electrolytes being low or non existent contribute to the problem. This can happen even if you do not have many other body chemistry or organ problems.Or if you have no other problems.
I am also experiencing a few missed heart beats and this is why my cardiologist thinks I might need a pacemaker. It could help, but no matter, everything I tell you is of utmost important, pace maker of not.
I had open heart surgery 11 years ago for a single by-pass and an aortic valve replacement (the same surgery Arnold Swarzenager (sp?) had voluntarily to improve the quality of his life). I am waiting to see a specialist sometime within the next few weeks about a pacemaker possibly. Which type of valve did you have ? The plastic or the organic material ?
Anyone else wear a pacemaker? Thanks. Faith G.No one I know at the present. Years ago I knew a few

Re: CSPacemaker

2008-05-06 Thread B Magnatta

I'm glad to hear it!.. I hope that you are able to avoid MSG in all its
sneeky hidden forms... 

Sincerely Barb M. 

---Original Message---

From: Faith Gagne
Date: 5/6/2008 4:09:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I do not use MSG ever.  thanks.  Faith G.

- Original Message - 
From: B Magnatta 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I can second the magnesium.  My daughter Faith also with a heart condition ,
but from birth, had 2 clinically fatal heart attacks, ... They were really
MSG reactions , but many times if one goes to the hospital with some kind of
heart rhythm problem, they give magnesium to stabilize.  Maybe calcium is
part of the problem too as they are balanced.  It would be a good idea to
check out the MSG reactions to see if that fits your diet, and what symptoms
you're having... Just google, or ask jeeves, theres more than you can read
in a day ., lol

Sincerely Barb M. 

---Original Message---

From: Dee
Date: 5/6/2008 2:30:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I'm sorry to hear this Faith, and hope you find out what is causing it soon.
 Just a thought, do you take magnesium because this is supposed to be good
for the heart.. I had a similar thing to this years ago, but I had taken an
anti-biotic and forgot that you are not supposed to take other medication
with it.  I too fainted and had nausea; also having to have medication to
stop it.  Hope you find an answer soon.  Dee 
---Original Message---

From: Faith Gagne
Date: 06/05/2008 14:22:12
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPacemaker

  A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my computer.  I don't
know how long I was there.  When I woke up I was very nauseated and sick.  I
laid down for awhile but could not recover from the nausea and sickness.
Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to the hospital.

Re: CSPacemaker-MSGaspertame

some people are also reactive to aspertame, aka nutrasweet. they are 
chemically similar.



On May 6, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Faith Gagne wrote:


I do not use MSG ever.  thanks.  Faith G.
 

- Original Message -
From:  B Magnatta
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I can second the magnesium.  My daughter Faith also with a heart 
condition , but from birth, had 2 clinically fatal heart attacks, ... 
They were really MSG reactions , but many times if one goes to the 
hospital with some kind of heart rhythm problem, they give magnesium 
to stabilize.  Maybe calcium is part of the problem too as they are 
balanced.  It would be a good idea to check out the MSG reactions to 
see if that fits your diet, and what symptoms you're having... Just 
google, or ask jeeves, theres more than you can read in a day ., lol

 
Sincerely Barb M. 


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Re: CSNebulizer

 nebulizer which was $54 (Smitty?)

I did a search  only found this =

(nebulizer info)
http://tinyurl.com/24goln

smitty


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Re: CSNebulizer

2008-05-06 Thread Kirsteen Wright

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Can anyone re-post the address of where to get the nebulizer which was $54
 (Smitty?) please as I saved it to a folder, but cannot find it now (!)
  typical!  It is for CS and I think you only had to put in an ounce or so.
  Many thanks in advance.  Dee

I ordered one from USA and was really fed up when it didn't come and they
finally answered my emails and said they'd refunded my card as tey didn't
ship to UK. Wy give postage costs to UK if you don't ship there. then I
tried Ebay and found this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Portable-Ultrasonic-Nebulizer-AND-Rechargeable-Battery_W0QQitemZ280221862786QQihZ018QQcategoryZ45207QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Sorry it's a long link - don't know how to do tiny. but if you go to Ebay
and search Poly Green ultrasonic nebulizer you should find it. I've found it
really great and the company were really helpful.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSPacemaker

I eat very little prepared foods.  I make everything fresh from scratch.  I may 
buy a few things from Trader Joes but I read labels carefully and I have never 
seen msg listed on any of the few things I buy.  Thanks.  Faith G.

  - Original Message - 
  From: B Magnatta 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:08 PM
  Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I'm glad to hear it!.. I hope that you are able to avoid MSG in all its 
sneeky hidden forms... 

Sincerely Barb M. 

---Original Message---

From: Faith Gagne
Date: 5/6/2008 4:09:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I do not use MSG ever.  thanks.  Faith G.

- Original Message - 
From: B Magnatta 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

  I can second the magnesium.  My daughter Faith also with a heart 
condition , but from birth, had 2 clinically fatal heart attacks, ... They were 
really MSG reactions , but many times if one goes to the hospital with some 
kind of heart rhythm problem, they give magnesium to stabilize.  Maybe calcium 
is part of the problem too as they are balanced.  It would be a good idea to 
check out the MSG reactions to see if that fits your diet, and what symptoms 
you're having... Just google, or ask jeeves, theres more than you can read in a 
day ., lol

  Sincerely Barb M. 

  ---Original Message---

  From: Dee
  Date: 5/6/2008 2:30:35 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

  I'm sorry to hear this Faith, and hope you find out what is 
causing it soon.  Just a thought, do you take magnesium because this is 
supposed to be good for the heart.. I had a similar thing to this years ago, 
but I had taken an anti-biotic and forgot that you are not supposed to take 
other medication with it.  I too fainted and had nausea; also having to have 
medication to stop it.  Hope you find an answer soon.  Dee 
  ---Original Message---

  From: Faith Gagne
  Date: 06/05/2008 14:22:12
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSPacemaker

A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my 
computer.  I don't
  know how long I was there.  When I woke up I was very nauseated 
and sick.  I
  laid down for awhile but could not recover from the nausea and 
sickness.
  Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to the hospital.

CSCS: Blood pressure

2008-05-06 Thread Harold MacDonald

I have had high blood pressure for years;according to the Medical peoples' 
figures.I'm now 84 years old and feel fine. Last time I checked,at a drug 
store machine,it was 176/84.I agree with Wayne,you own body should be the 
one to determine what is right for you.I have had a BP cuff for 30+ years 
now and rarely use it.I can feel when my BP is up too high and use bio-feed 
back to lower it.
I also agree with Wayne re Cholesterol; which is a very vital necessity and 
Statin drugs to lower it are an abomination.

More serious side effects of it are coming to light now too.
Cholesterol is one of the highest volume parts of the brain according to the 
latest info I have read.

Quite obvious,it's in the interest of the drug Co,' s  to keep people sick.
JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!
Call me cynical too!
Harold 




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Re: CSPacemaker-MSGaspertame

I avoid false sweeteners like the plague.  If I use anything it wouldl be 
the best honey I can find (in very small amounts in my tea or whatever), a 
bit of organic sugar here an dthere and small amonts of molasses, especially 
to make my wonderful hermit cookies.   This group is SO helpful  Thanks. 
Faith G.



- Original Message - 
From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker-MSGaspertame


some people are also reactive to aspertame, aka nutrasweet. they are
chemically similar.


On May 6, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Faith Gagne wrote:


I do not use MSG ever. thanks. Faith G.


- Original Message -
From:  B Magnatta
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I can second the magnesium. My daughter Faith also with a heart condition 
, but from birth, had 2 clinically fatal heart attacks, ... They were 
really MSG reactions , but many times if one goes to the hospital with 
some kind of heart rhythm problem, they give magnesium to stabilize. 
Maybe calcium is part of the problem too as they are balanced. It would 
be a good idea to check out the MSG reactions to see if that fits your 
diet, and what symptoms you're having... Just google, or ask jeeves, 
theres more than you can read in a day ., lol


Sincerely Barb M.


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Re: CSNebulizer

Didn't Ode say (or someone) that CS sort of cooks on (my words) to the 
nebulizer instead of getting into the vapor?  something like that.  Maybe it 
was not Ode.  I don't want to put words in his mouth, but someone made an 
obervation like this and I remember it.  Faith G.



- Original Message - 
From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSNebulizer



nebulizer which was $54 (Smitty?)


I did a search  only found this =

(nebulizer info)
http://tinyurl.com/24goln

smitty


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Re: CSNebulizer

 Sorry it's a long link - don't know how to do tiny.
 Cheers
 Kirsteen



Hi  Kirsteen:
Here's a link to Tiny URL . I use it all the time when
coming across a long link =
tinyurl.com

Put it in your favorites, so you can access it quickly.

Smitty


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Re: CSPacemaker

2008-05-06 Thread B Magnatta

It sounds like you get very little MSG.  You would be shocked to see what it
is labled as, and here is a link for a clue:

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html

It only has to be labled MSG is its something like 99 percent pure, if its
less than that they can disguise the MSG ingredient by calling it something
else 

MSG occurs naturally in slow cooked foods as well because the slow cooking
process releases glutamic acid from the proteins.  In fact most of the
damage from stroke happens because of the freed glutamic acid from the
tissues in the brain!  MSG is also a calcium channel opener, and magnesium
counteracts it, and so does taurine, and vitamin c and others... 

MSG occurs naturally in fermented foods as well.

Its truly a nightmare .  Maybe the list can also prove to you that you have
avoided the MSG bullet! I hope you are one. 

Sincerely Barb M. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Faith Gagne
Date: 5/6/2008 6:02:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker
 
I eat very little prepared foods.  I make everything fresh from scratch.  I
may buy a few things from Trader Joes but I read labels carefully and I have
never seen msg listed on any of the few things I buy.  Thanks.  Faith G.
 
- Original Message - 
From: B Magnatta 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker


I'm glad to hear it!.. I hope that you are able to avoid MSG in all its
sneeky hidden forms... 
 
Sincerely Barb M. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Faith Gagne
Date: 5/6/2008 4:09:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker
 
I do not use MSG ever.  thanks.  Faith G.
 
- Original Message - 
From: B Magnatta 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker


I can second the magnesium.  My daughter Faith also with a heart condition ,
but from birth, had 2 clinically fatal heart attacks, ... They were really
MSG reactions , but many times if one goes to the hospital with some kind of
heart rhythm problem, they give magnesium to stabilize.  Maybe calcium is
part of the problem too as they are balanced.  It would be a good idea to
check out the MSG reactions to see if that fits your diet, and what symptoms
you're having... Just google, or ask jeeves, theres more than you can read
in a day ., lol
 
Sincerely Barb M. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Dee
Date: 5/6/2008 2:30:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker
 
I'm sorry to hear this Faith, and hope you find out what is causing it soon.
 Just a thought, do you take magnesium because this is supposed to be good
for the heart.. I had a similar thing to this years ago, but I had taken an
anti-biotic and forgot that you are not supposed to take other medication
with it.  I too fainted and had nausea; also having to have medication to
stop it.  Hope you find an answer soon.  Dee 
---Original Message---
 
From: Faith Gagne
Date: 06/05/2008 14:22:12
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPacemaker
 
  A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my computer.  I don't
know how long I was there.  When I woke up I was very nauseated and sick.  I
laid down for awhile but could not recover from the nausea and sickness.
Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to the hospital.

Re: CSNebulizer

2008-05-06 Thread Kirsteen Wright

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi  Kirsteen:
 Here's a link to Tiny URL . I use it all the time when
 coming across a long link =
 tinyurl.com

Thanks, in that case it's *http://tinyurl.com/6d3r4r*
Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSPacemaker

PS:  The cardiologist told me to stay away from salt becasue it constricts 
blood vessels, so I almost never use it.  I do not salt my food and rarely 
use it in cooking.  I've gotten used to it.  i bought a little sea salt but 
do not use it very much.  But come to think of it, I've had my electrolytes 
checked and they were fine.



- Original Message - 
From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker


Hi Kathryn.  thanks very much.  I will put it on my list of things that 
must be done.  Faith G.



- Original Message - 
From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker



Hi Faith,

Sorry to hear about your trouble. My grandmother also experienced similar 
passing out, and it was determined after quite some time and tests that 
she needed alot of extra salt.  She ended up taking salt pills.   This 
might be an easy thing to do on your own, to take a gram of salt and see 
if that brings up your blood pressure.  If you have an at home blood 
pressure monitor you can check it yourself. They are not too expensive, 
around 30 dollars or so.


It would be a shame to have heart surgery if it could be corrected by 
electrolytes.  I also know other people who use salt in this way.


I am wondering if they checked your sodium and potassium levels?  This is 
a pretty common thing to check here.


Kathryn



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Re: CSHigh Blood Pressure, High, Low, and Normal

Thanks, Wayne . . . you nailed it. . . .
I've been drinking 2 teaspoons cayenne in a half glass of water
3x a day. This is what Dr. Christopher lowered his BP with.
Also fruits,veggies, seafood  hardly any meat.
Don't smoke. . .come from a long line of German farmers.
I'm 76. . . just joined the Y,  2 weeks ago  exercising 3X/week.

Smitty


On 5/5/08, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote:
 Evening Smitty,

   At 08:01 PM 5/5/2008, you wrote:


  Wayne. . . . I have read something about high blood pressure
  readings. The docs lowered the *normal* numbers and
  as a result, the medicos are selling more HBP meds.
  Have you heard about this ?
 

   Not sure the DOC's did it.  The AMA, the Drug companies, and the Medical
 Profession wanted
  everyone to be sick or have some ailment.

   Yes, been hearing about it for some time.

  More on your question later, but first I need to beat around the bush and
 state some ideas and
  opinions.

  First, ...  High, Low, and Normal are bordering on Fuzzy Logic and
 cannot be defined.
  ( by ordinary means and methods )

  Blood pressure is a symptom and NOT A Disease.  It never has been.
  It is addressed and treated which is often a very bad thing.

  The blood pressure often goes up for a very good reason and can save ones
 life.

  If a bear is chasing you, it better go up, .. and as high as possible.
 Also your emergency energy system needs to kick in, if it is possible for
 this to happen.

  Over the years, my blood pressure would go up when I needed to eat.
  Supplying energy to the brain is near Number ONE priority, the heart is
 second.
  Whether the brain or heart gets priority is a complex subject.  The heart
 may be first.

  If the brain runs our of energy, you can pass out, hit a bridge, a tree, a
 telephone pole or another vehicle.  Thus and therefore, the blood pressure
 going up, is often a life saving maneuver.
  ( or if the electrolytes are way our of balance, or non existent )

  The body is very intelligent, Often I refer to  The body control system
 simply because I think,
  Control Systems.  It is also intercellular communications, call it what
 you wish.

  I fully realize that some conditions in the body can keep the blood
 pressure above normal, virtually all the time.   Addressing the true ailment
 and cause would be much better than simply lowering the blood pressure.

  Vitamins, Minerals, Electrolytes, and energy levels all play an important
 part.
  And of course, a diabetic has a multitude of problems that I will not
 address.

  If the blood glucose is too high, the brain will not use it, so one will
 feel lightheaded just like they do if the glucose is low.

  Again, many of my ideas are from observation, not from some bogus lies I
 read.
  Remember, I am a human being also.  My blood pressure has been high, and it
 has been low.

  I never get a headache from blood pressure.  Remember Salt is very
 important, as are all
  electrolytes.

  It can be made go up and can be made go down by nutrients and food.
  Often in the morning, my reading will be 117 over 72 with a heart rate in
 the 50's.

  I rather it be 130 to 135 over 80 to 85.  Even 90 is ok and 140 is ok.

  Due to ones physical condition, circulatory condition and maybe  serious
 ailments, the blood pressure must be a bit higher for them to feel good and
 function.

  Too High and Too Low must be determined by the individual, NO stupid doctor
 knows what is best for you or for me.  I know what is right for me, and can
 usually put it exactly there.

  I am positive that it is a Bald Faced Lie that high blood pressure causes
 stroke.

  No fool engineer would design a piping system that could not stand more
 pressure than the pump can provide.

  The blood vessels are 10 times as strong as any pressure the heart can
 deliver.
  That is,  good blood vessels, not bad or damaged one.  Healthy people, not
 sick people

  Weak blood vessels causes strokes.  The genius body control system does not
 consider the weakness of your blood vessels when it make the decision to
 increase the blood pressure.

  Energy for the heart is of utmost importance, just like for the brain.
  The heart muscle uses energy at two times the rate of any other cells.

  If the energy is low, very low, for an extended time, one can have a heart
 attack and even have permanent damage to the heart, and they can DIE, just
 because of a lack of energy.
  Inadequate electrolytes caused many heart abnormalities.  Get them right
 and keep them right.

  The brain and the heart are much alike in energy requirements.  It must be
 there or the person is at risk for many things, accidents, and you name it.

  I have great sympathy for Diabetics.  Most fight a constant battle, 24
 hours per day, even when sleeping.

  Most of what I say does not apply to them.  They are in a world of their
 own, and must do their own study to arrive at what is best.

  One great writer, Karl Loren states.   The diet

CSInterview with wholistic pharmacist Suzy Cohen


http://know-the-cause.com/Shows/TodaysShowNowStreaming/tabid/113/Default.aspx


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Re: CScataracts tooth and gum tincture

2008-05-06 Thread Sandee George

Hi There Paula - I have personally used the following for my cataracts:
coconut water (very young)
flaxseed oil
chrysanthemum - which I get from a DOM and mix it myself with  
distilled water @ a dilution of 10%
MSM - again I make my own dilution at 10%
Colloidal Silver - 5 ppm
and other things which I am not prepared to suggest to anyone cause
they are certainly not tried and proven !

Take your pick - I rotate them all so it is hard for me to say which one
works the best but I can tell you that I can see to drive at night now
without any halos - that is as good as I can give you - 
Cheers
Sandee

Peace is easy . . . It is a mind set
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RE: CSNebulizer -- CS cooking on

2008-05-06 Thread Judy K

Nebulizers use cold moisture, not hot vapor, so I believe the CS stays in
the droplets.
Judy Down Maine

-Original Message-
From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizer

Didn't Ode say (or someone) that CS sort of cooks on (my words) to the
nebulizer instead of getting into the vapor?  something like that.  Maybe it
was not Ode.  I don't want to put words in his mouth, but someone made an
obervation like this and I remember it.  Faith G.

- Original Message -
From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSNebulizer

 nebulizer which was $54 (Smitty?)

 I did a search  only found this =

 (nebulizer info)
 http://tinyurl.com/24goln

 smitty

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Re: CSNebulizer -- CS cooking on

Thanks.  Faith G.

- Original Message - 
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: CSNebulizer -- CS cooking on

Nebulizers use cold moisture, not hot vapor, so I believe the CS stays 
in

the droplets.
Judy Down Maine

-Original Message-
From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNebulizer

Didn't Ode say (or someone) that CS sort of cooks on (my words) to the
nebulizer instead of getting into the vapor?  something like that.  Maybe 
it

was not Ode.  I don't want to put words in his mouth, but someone made an
obervation like this and I remember it.  Faith G.

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Re: CScataracts tooth and gum tincture


Hi Sandee:  Thanks for sharing.  What is DOM?  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: CScataracts tooth and gum tincture



Hi There Paula - I have personally used the following for my cataracts:
coconut water (very young)
flaxseed oil
chrysanthemum - which I get from a DOM and mix it myself with  
distilled water @ a dilution of 10%

MSM - again I make my own dilution at 10%
Colloidal Silver - 5 ppm
and other things which I am not prepared to suggest to anyone cause
they are certainly not tried and proven !

Take your pick - I rotate them all so it is hard for me to say which one
works the best but I can tell you that I can see to drive at night now
without any halos - that is as good as I can give you - 
Cheers

Sandee



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CSCs containing nickel???



Hi all,
The statement below I came across another forum. I would like to
respond to let this lady know there is no nickel in it. I would
like some input with possible reference to refute her statement. 
Thanks.

Nickel is present in colloidal silver and many people have nickel
allergies and don't realize it. I went into shock after drinking a very
small amount.

I urge you to do a skin-prick test after every batch for each person
who will consume the tonic.





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Re: CSPacemaker

Ah. yes, sometimes they say that. It can cause problems in some. My 
neighbor used to get a very red and swollen face when she would eat too 
much salt. She also ate msg daily in small amounts, so I guess it could 
have been that too.


I was very dizzy and tired last week at my parents house, the alt is 
5,000 ft, and I am not used to it, so my normally low blood pressure 
was a problem. I finally remembered it could be that, and I loaded a 
lot of salt on something and ate it. Next meal I did the same thing, 
and it really helped.


It would be nice if that was what was wrong, since it is easy to 
correct. if you eat little extra salt, it may be that you have reduced 
it too much. Especially if you eat no processed or prepared foods, like 
me. if I want salt, I have to add it on purpose, because I eat no junk 
food or processed food, no chemicals, additives or preservatives. I 
looked at the list for MSG on the website posted, and it is 
interesting. However I don't eat food like that very often.


I hope you figure it out and feel better.

Kathryn


On May 6, 2008, at 5:31 PM, Faith Gagne wrote:

PS:  The cardiologist told me to stay away from salt becasue it 
constricts blood vessels, so I almost never use it.  I do not salt my 
food and rarely use it in cooking.  I've gotten used to it.  i bought 
a little sea salt but do not use it very much.  But come to think of 
it, I've had my electrolytes checked and they were fine.



- Original Message - From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net



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Re: CSCs containing nickel???


Well,

Of course, if the silver is not pure enough it is possible to have 
traces of other metals in it, including nickel. Also, if there is any 
stainless steel in the apparatus it is possible to have nickel as a 
contaminant.


If it is four nines silver (99.99%) , and you have a squeeky clean set 
up and know the components, that risk can be minimised if someone is 
severly allergic. It can be done, just a tiny bit more trouble.  It 
should not be necessary for nearly everyone else.


I like her idea of the skin prick test for a severly allergic person. I 
am allergic to nickel as well, but have never had any problems with my 
solutions, and I use 3 nines silver (99.9%).


Just my thought, anyone else?

Kathryn

On May 6, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Hanneke wrote:


 Hi all,

 The statement below I came across another forum.  I would like to 
respond to let this lady know there is no nickel in it.  I would like 
some input with possible reference to refute her statement. Thanks.


Nickel is present in colloidal silver and many people have nickel 
allergies and don't realize it. I went into shock after drinking a 
very small amount.  I urge you to do a skin-prick test after every 
batch for each person who will consume the tonic.


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Re: CSPacemaker

2008-05-06 Thread Dianne France

Faith

I don't have any advise or knowledge about what you are facing here but wish 
you the absolute best.  Have been reading some of the recommendations and 
saving many to file.  

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Faith Gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

  I eat very little prepared foods.  I make everything fresh from scratch.  I 
may buy a few things from Trader Joes but I read labels carefully and I have 
never seen msg listed on any of the few things I buy.  Thanks.  Faith G.

- Original Message - 
From: B Magnattamailto:mom.magna...@gmail.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

  I'm glad to hear it!.. I hope that you are able to avoid MSG in all 
its sneeky hidden forms... 

  Sincerely Barb M. 

  ---Original Message---

  From: Faith Gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net
  Date: 5/6/2008 4:09:18 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

  I do not use MSG ever.  thanks.  Faith G.

  - Original Message - 
  From: B Magnattamailto:mom.magna...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:16 PM
  Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I can second the magnesium.  My daughter Faith also with a 
heart condition , but from birth, had 2 clinically fatal heart attacks, ... 
They were really MSG reactions , but many times if one goes to the hospital 
with some kind of heart rhythm problem, they give magnesium to stabilize.  
Maybe calcium is part of the problem too as they are balanced.  It would be a 
good idea to check out the MSG reactions to see if that fits your diet, and 
what symptoms you're having... Just google, or ask jeeves, theres more than you 
can read in a day ., lol

Sincerely Barb M. 

---Original Message---

From: Deemailto:d...@deetroy.org
Date: 5/6/2008 2:30:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I'm sorry to hear this Faith, and hope you find out what is 
causing it soon.  Just a thought, do you take magnesium because this is 
supposed to be good for the heart.. I had a similar thing to this years ago, 
but I had taken an anti-biotic and forgot that you are not supposed to take 
other medication with it.  I too fainted and had nausea; also having to have 
medication to stop it.  Hope you find an answer soon.  Dee 
---Original Message---

From: Faith Gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net
Date: 06/05/2008 14:22:12
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPacemaker

  A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my 
computer.  I don't
know how long I was there.  When I woke up I was very nauseated 
and sick.  I
laid down for awhile but could not recover from the nausea and 
sickness.
Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to the hospital.

Re: CSPacemaker




http://www.naturodoc.com/library/nutrition/MSG.htm
Glad you don't really eat a lot of processed foods. Natural MSG is
not so much the problem either , it is the MSG they add to just about
everything without labeling it using other words. This website
gives a list of alternatives they use to hide MSG they add.
I hope your cholesterol levels are not too low either Faith. I am
seriously bringing that up. Too low cholesterol is not good.
H.
At 07:31 AM 7/05/2008, you wrote:

I eat very little prepared
foods. I make everything fresh from scratch. I may buy a few
things from Trader Joes but I read labels carefully and I have never seen
msg listed on any of the few things I buy. Thanks. Faith
G.



- Original Message - 

From: B Magnatta


To:
silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:08 PM

Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I'm glad to hear it!.. I hope that you are able to avoid MSG in all
its sneeky hidden forms... 



Sincerely Barb M. 



---Original Message---



From: Faith Gagne

Date: 5/6/2008 4:09:18 PM

To:
silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CSPacemaker



I do not use MSG ever.
thanks. Faith G.



- Original Message - 

From: B Magnatta


To:
silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:16 PM

Subject: Re: CSPacemaker

I can second the magnesium. My daughter Faith also with a heart
condition , but from birth, had 2 clinically fatal heart attacks, ...
They were really MSG reactions , but many times if one goes to the
hospital with some kind of heart rhythm problem, they give magnesium to
stabilize. Maybe calcium is part of the problem too as they are
balanced. It would be a good idea to check out the MSG reactions to
see if that fits your diet, and what symptoms you're having... Just
google, or ask jeeves, theres more than you can read in a day ., lol



Sincerely Barb M. 



---Original Message---



From: Dee

Date: 5/6/2008 2:30:35 PM

To:
silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CSPacemaker



I'm sorry to hear this Faith, and hope you find out what is causing
it soon. Just a thought, do you take magnesium because this is
supposed to be good for the heart.. I had a similar thing to this years
ago, but I had taken an anti-biotic and forgot that you are not supposed
to take other medication with it. I too fainted and had nausea;
also having to have medication to stop it. Hope you find an answer
soon. Dee 

---Original Message---



From: Faith Gagne

Date: 06/05/2008 14:22:12

To:
silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: CSPacemaker



 A couple of weeks ago I passed out while in front of my
computer. I don't

know how long I was there. When I woke up I was very nauseated
and sick. I

laid down for awhile but could not recover from the nausea and
sickness.

Finally had to call the rescue and be taken to the hospital.






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CSCS: cooking in nebulizer

2008-05-06 Thread Harold MacDonald

I have been using a nebulizer for a number of years now and the only thing 
I've seen is,if it sits for a long time without being used and the CS mix 
evaporates,it leaves an efflorescent residue on the neb.transducer.This is 
easily brushed off.Since I got it,I have never had to go to the Dr again for 
ABX for Bronchial Pneumonia; which was a regular occurence every fall for a 
lot of years.This was a weakness of mine,I think.

As a child I nearly died of Pulmonary Pneumonia.
Harold 




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CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.

2008-05-06 Thread david



For various reasons I've bought and compared a few nebulizers lately.

The Transneb is a hand held unit. Its the most portable and quietest  
of the ones I tested.  But its got some very small parts that I think  
could be easily lost or broken. Its definitely not something that can  
easily be used by someone with poor dexterity.  I wouldn't buy this  
unless you REALLY needed a compact,very portable unit

http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm

Omron has a unit similar to the above that I didn't buy but i think  
it would have similar characteristics.

http://www.qualitymedicalsupplies.com/page/QMS/PROD/RE-NB/73-NEC30

The Compair NEC-28 is solid and a bargain price. Its a little noisy  
and pretty big (about half a shoe box) but its a good unit for  
someone who doesn't need portability. Its easy to use and the bits  
and pieces that have to be cleaned and assembled are relatively  
durable and sturdy.

http://www.portablenebs.com/omroncompair.htm
http://www.quickmedical.com/omron/respiratory/ 
nec28_compair_compressor.html


The Omrom NE-C30 is the one I would buy if I HAD to buy a nebulizer  
to deliver prescription medicines. Although it looks very similar to  
the NEC-28 above, its actually quite a lot smaller and a little  
quieter. Its simple to use. Basically it appears to be an advanced  
and shrunken version of the NEC-28. The basic unit is pretty fair  
value. It also has assorted optional extra features such a battery  
pack but they are expensive.
http://www.quickmedical.com/omron/respiratory/nec30-compair-elite- 
portable-compressor-nebulizer.html


All of the units above are available with a mouthpiece and masks.  
Obviously there are dozens of other brands and models of medical  
nebulisers available that may be better or worse than the ones I tested.



BUT BY FAR THE MOST CONVENIENT 'NEBULIZER OF ALL for colloidal silver  
delivery is still the MEDISANA Ultrasonic Humidifier.


http://www.medisanausa.com/products/humidifier.aspx
Strictly speaking its not a nebulizer at all but it serves the same  
purpose beautifully. The best thing about it is that you can just  
leave it set up permanently on a shelf and turn it on and off as  
needed. Unlike a proper nebuliser, it doesn't have to be dismantled  
and cleaned after each use.


All you do is switch it on, put your face near the spout and inhale  
the mist for a minute or two.  With this machine its very easy to  
have numerous inhalation sessions throughout the day because there is  
no set-up time. You just have a puff each time you walk past it. You  
can even leave it going for hours to totally humidify a room with CS.  
Its almost totally silent and runs for about 8 hours on a fill. You  
could CS therapy while you sleep!  (Note that this is cold ultrasonic  
humidifier. It's not a steam vaporizer.)


Its about the size of a teapot and looks pretty cool so it doesn't  
look like some 'embarrassing' medical gadget. Most kids would be  
perfectly happy to use this. Its much nicer than having a mask  
strapped to your face.


I can't stress enough how much easier the Medisana is to use than any  
nebulizer. Because its so nice and easy to use, and can be  
permanently set up, you'll find that it will be used much more often  
than something that needs to be unpacked and assembled.  And the more  
often its used the more likely it is to work!


I believe the Medisana is pretty widely available in the US. Check  
out Amazon, and maybe Walmart.  I've had mine here in Australia for a  
couple of years and its proven to be as reliable as it is handy. But  
its not currently available over here. I had to get mine sent from  
the States and I power it with my own 12vDC transformer.


I hope this is useful info for you.

Regards
David

(And thanks to Ode Coyote for his help on this project).



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Re: CScataracts tooth and gum tincture

2008-05-06 Thread bbanever


Hi Faith,

I think she means Doctor of Oriental Medicine.  Chrysanthemum isa 
commonly used herb in Chinese Medicine.


   Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: CScataracts tooth and gum tincture



Hi Sandee:  Thanks for sharing.  What is DOM?  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: CScataracts tooth and gum tincture



Hi There Paula - I have personally used the following for my cataracts:
coconut water (very young)
flaxseed oil
chrysanthemum - which I get from a DOM and mix it myself with 
distilled water @ a dilution of 10%

MSM - again I make my own dilution at 10%
Colloidal Silver - 5 ppm
and other things which I am not prepared to suggest to anyone cause
they are certainly not tried and proven !

Take your pick - I rotate them all so it is hard for me to say which one
works the best but I can tell you that I can see to drive at night now
without any halos - that is as good as I can give you - Cheers
Sandee



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CSCs containing nickel???

2008-05-06 Thread david





Theres no nickel in pure silver electrodes so there shouldn't be any  
in the CS.


'Nickel Silver' is used in 'imitation silver' jewellery. It's also  
known as 'german silver'.  Its apparently banned for making jewellery  
in the EC due to the allergy/toxicity problem. Some sterling silver  
may also contain zinc.


Many people by silver wire from 'Jewellers suppliers'. They are  
probably not getting pure silver.  There are many grades of silver  
wires available that offer various properties that suit jewellers.   
These 'silver' wires all contain various other metals and should not  
be used to make CS.


David










From: Hanneke bloss...@aapt.net.au
Date: 7 May 2008 11:25:57 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCs  containing nickel???


Hi all,

The statement below I came across another forum.  I would like to  
respond to let this lady know there is no nickel in it.  I would  
like some input with possible reference to refute her statement.  
Thanks.


Nickel is present in colloidal silver and many people have nickel  
allergies and don't realize it. I went into shock after drinking a  
very small amount.
I urge you to do a skin-prick test after every batch for each  
person who will consume the tonic.
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Re: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.

2008-05-06 Thread nessie


da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:


BUT BY FAR THE MOST CONVENIENT 'NEBULIZER OF ALL for colloidal silver 
delivery is still the MEDISANA Ultrasonic Humidifier.




All you do is switch it on, put your face near the spout and inhale 
the mist for a minute or two.  With this machine its very easy to have 
numerous inhalation sessions throughout the day because there is no 
set-up time. You just have a puff each time you walk past it. You can 
even _leave it going for hours to totally_ _humidify a room with CS_. 
Its almost totally silent and runs for about 8 hours on a fill. You 
could CS therapy while you sleep!  (Note that this is cold ultrasonic 
humidifier. It's not a steam vaporizer.)

***
  Does anyone think the room contents  furniture etc..might turn 
Grey color if you do the whole room..?

  nessie..






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Re: CSCs containing nickel???

  If it is four nines silver (99.99%) ,
  Kathryn

I believe it should be .  ?

Smitty


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Re: CSCs containing nickel???

2008-05-06 Thread Jerome Karl


99.99% is .
Jerry

=
Smitty wrote:

 If it is four nines silver (99.99%) ,
 Kathryn



I believe it should be .  ?

Smitty


  



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Re: CSPacemaker

2008-05-06 Thread Gayla Roberts

Almost all people who have heart attacks are low on magnesium. 
Calcium and magnesium work together. Cal/mag/vitamin D are a good combo.
Magnesium also has a lot to do with muscle strength. It is also tied very 
strongly to women's urinary urgency as the ads so delicately put it. The very 
first time I took a separate dose of magnesium, 1 MDR, I slept all night 
without having to get up to go to the bathroom. Incredible! I was pleasantly 
surprised.
Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, California
aera...@gmail.com

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