CSIs the ascorbic acid alkalinizing?

2005-10-25 Thread cmccauley

Hi.  I was wondering if ascorbic acid powder works like lemon juice does
for alkalinizing your system?   I have some aa powder (1000 mg. per 1/4
tsp.) and when I add it to my drinking water it has the same tartness as
when I add the fresh lemon juice to the water.  Will it do the same thing
as the lemon juice?  Will the bicarb of soda diminish this?

Also, how long before/after drinking the aa powder can I drink my CS/EIS
cut with the Gatorade so there is no interference?

Thanks,
Christine Mc.


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Re: CSionic-colloidal

2005-10-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
Terry Chamberlin wrote:

 Frank Key said:
 Regarding Terry Chamberlin's comments on ions:
 To put all the definitions into practical perspective
 requires only that one understand the following
 sentence.

 The difference between silver ions and silver
 particles boils down to the fact that silver ions
 combine with chloride ions to form silver chloride and
 silver particles do not.

 All that you are saying is that charged silver
 particles smaller than a certain size (what you are
 designating *ionic*) interact with chloride in a
 certain way, and charged or non-charged particles
 bigger than a certain size (what you are calling
 *colloidal*) do not.

It does almost appear that way, except a two atom ion/particle does seems
to exist.  As an ion it can be silver oxide Ag2O, and as a particle it can
be Ag2.  They are both 2 atoms, but the particle one will not react with
AgCl, but the ionic one will. Just what the difference is in these two is
difficult to say, except one is reactive and the other is not.

Marshall



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Re: CSsilver ions vs. particles

2005-10-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
Duncan Crow wrote:

  The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to the
  fact that silver ions combine with chloride ions to form silver chloride and
  silver particles do not.

 I'd like to point out that silver is superficially attacked by
 hydrochloric acid. If isilver particles don't produce silver
 chloride, what does it produce (in the stomach or in a test tube)
 when exposed to the HCl in there?

Are you sure?  When I was initially trying to digest colloidal silver for 
analysis
I tried HCl and did not find any effect on the colloidal part.  This would be 
easy
enough to try again, a little HCl and CS and see if the tyndall disappears..

Marshall



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Re: CSMycoplasma Questions

2005-10-25 Thread mborgert
You are right on.  
Most of my life I have worked with exotic animals including all parrots, we 
always kept all birds away from the public for not only can the birds give the 
flu to humans but also humans can also give the flu, colds etc. to birds.  I 
remember our vet continually making us protecting the birds (parakeets 
included) from humans and visa versa.  I really do not know if the humans gave 
the flu to the birds or visa versa for all of the exotic and non exotic birds 
were grown locally and none were ever imported.  we sold hundreds of birds 
monthly and I monitored each and every bird for 3 months.
We had one case of the flu(bird)(parakeet) the customers MD said.  I had my vet 
check this out and it  seems that the child had the flu when they purchased the 
parakeet my vet assumed that the child gave the flu to the bird.
The bird flu is nothing new!! I personally checked out all breeding facilities 
as you know all birds have leg bands thus insuring we knew from where the birds 
came.  In each facility I checked to see if the breeders had ever come down 
with the flu, checked with their vets, none had, all facilities were very clean 
and neet.
I always wondered if the world health organ. ever checked out the possibility 
that the humans gave the flu to the(local) birds in the case of the wild birds 
I am assuming that they probably have always had this strain, otherwise where 
did the wild birds obtain this type of flu??? 
In the past I have raised every exotic primate including 2 gorillas, in each 
case all primates must be protected FROM HUMANS not visa versa.
Also we sold thousands of tropical fish per week in the case of salt water 
tropicals humans can get many kinds of fungas and when dealing with coral this 
raises many more problems.  When dealing with salt water and corals one must 
wear long gloves for if one has an opened wound the fungas can enter.  We never 
had this problem for we always protected ourselves.  To me this is more 
prevelant than the bird flu.
so the question one asks is what came first did the human have the flu and gave 
it to the (local bird population) or visa versa.  
I have never delt with wild birds for we always considered that they have MANY 
DISEASES that can pass to humans including the bird flu.
-- Original message from Jonathan B. Britten 
jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp: -- 


 Some years ago I was treated in hospital for this; there was an 
 epidemic. Tens of thousands were infected. Fortunately most cases 
 were mono-lobar, i.e., involving one lung only, else the fatality rate 
 would likely have been much higher. 
 
 
 It is a very serious condition. It does respond to antibiotics, 
 usually, but takes a long time to clear up completely. 
 
 
 Interestingly, one doctor who checked my lungs asked about contact 
 with birds such as parrots. This was many years ago, before all the 
 bird-flu talk; birds have been a well-known vector for quite a long 
 time. 
 
 
 Knowing what I know now, I would attempt the alternative protocols 
 discussed on this list, but would not forego the standard treatment if 
 it is working. 
 
 
 Mycoplasmas are nasty; get good medical supervision, I would say. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Monday, Oct 24, 2005, at 22:41 Asia/Tokyo, Al Riley wrote: 
 
 
 ArialHello fellow 
 SilverListers! 
 
 
 ArialA dear friend of mine has 
 developed Mycoplasma Pneumonia. He believes he caught it from his 
 son, a recently returned soldier who was stationed in Iraq. The son 
 has had a hacking cough since his return about a month ago, and now, 
 after a couple weeks,my friend has been diagnosed with this Mycoplasma 
 infection. Do any of the distinguished member of this group have any 
 suggestions on how to treat this condition. Does Colloidal Silver 
 help? Would a Terminator2 Zapper help? I remember some discussions 
 on this list, but I can’t recall the conclusions. Thank you for your 
 help!! 
 
 
 ArialAl Riley 
 
 
 

Re: CSIs the ascorbic acid alkalinizing?

2005-10-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
cmccau...@kayescholer.com wrote:

 Hi.  I was wondering if ascorbic acid powder works like lemon juice does
 for alkalinizing your system?   I have some aa powder (1000 mg. per 1/4
 tsp.) and when I add it to my drinking water it has the same tartness as
 when I add the fresh lemon juice to the water.  Will it do the same thing
 as the lemon juice?  Will the bicarb of soda diminish this?

 Also, how long before/after drinking the aa powder can I drink my CS/EIS
 cut with the Gatorade so there is no interference?

Organic acids usually contain no light metals. I believe that light metals
are what tend to do the alkalinizing.  However sodium or potassium ascorbate
should both be alkalinizing.  Bicarb of soda should also be alkalinizing.

Marshall



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Re: CSMycoplasma Questions - further suggestions

2005-10-25 Thread Rowena

   My son had mycoplasma pneumonia a few months ago.  He was treated at the 
time with zithromax and seemed to recover completely.  My concern is the 
possibility of lasting effects.  Are you all aware of any further natural 
treatment that I need to employ to be sure he has no lasting effects?

I would look at coconut oil as well as the CS, and homeopathic remedies 
chosen by electrodermal screening, to make sure the exact frequencies of the 
pathogens are selected, along with any others that may be lurking.  This 
would be very specific.  Where I go: http://www.taracentre.com.au/ - there 
would be info and links to other practitioners there.  Propolis might be 
another way to go.
Good wishes to him
Rowena


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CSRe: RE: Re: Re: Bird flu concerns

2005-10-25 Thread Duncan Crow
On 25 Oct 2005 at 10:50, cesiumther...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Catherine Coy wrote: 
 Duncan wrote:  I think the reason Transfer Factor doesn't
 always work fast or on the primary tumor was explained OK on
 another group.  White blood cells, and all the body's cells,
 are charged the same as the cancer tumor. The larger the
 mass, the more charge. This results in ionic repulsion which
 is about the same as magnetic repulsion if the poles are
 both north or both south.
 
 Good lord.
 
 Look, I agree that not enough is known about the electrical
 properties, if any, of the human body,

A fairly complete explanation, brilliant in my view, is Dr. Steve 
Haltiwanger's The Electrical Properties of Cancer Cells. We may not 
know enough but this is about as good as it gets. If you have 
reasonable comprehension of moderately technical documents, you 
really should learn from this one:
http://RoyalRife.com/haltiwanger.html

  but what you're
 attempting to describe is already known--that is, surgery is
 used in Cancer, Inc.'s arsenal to reduce tumor load so that
 any type of cancer cell destruction results in less for the
 medicine (in the case of Cancer, Inc., toxic chemicals) to
 overcome. 

You have described the orthodox approach. However, the primary tumour 
expresses a potent inhibitor of secondary tumours, so when you remove 
the primary tumour, this inhibition is removed and the secondaries 
(if any) pop up like mushrooms. 

 There's lots of evidence that cancer is a response
 to damage-DNA damage, to be specific.  

I wouldn't be too hasty in naming broken DNA as the cause of cancer. 
Cesium therapy is known to both kill cancer cells AND revert cancer 
cells to normal function. This indicates broken DNA, if it exists, 
can be repaired.

This was pointed out by the study in which researchers replaced the 
contents of a mouse ovum with broken-DNA cancer, the product was 
normal healthy baby mice, and not cancer mice.  So much for the 
broken DNA theory.

There's also evidence that indicates DNA damage is NOT a requirement 
for the cells to fail to mature and differentiate, resulting in 
cancer. I refer you again to Dr. Haltiwanger's document above that 
explains the molecular changes that will reliably result in cancer. 
He does mention cesium/high pH therapy and Otto Warburg's work. It's 
a fascinating document.

How about Dr. Rober O. Becker's experiment that put kidney cancer 
cells from a frog into a salamander's leg? The cells became frog 
muscle cells in the salamander. So much for not being able to 
redifferentiate cancer cells. Actually spontaneous remissions 
probably redifferntiate many more cells than they kill.

 It's more than just
 biology that affects how fast a wound heals. The way a wound
 heals will depend on many factors, both intrinsic and
 extrinsic. Lifestyle and people's attitudes are also key
 factors determining how fast a wound heals. For example, a
 body that is dealing with poor nutritional intake,
 infection, drug or alcohol issues, or poor inner hygiene
 will have its healing process compromised. Anything that
 helps your general health is going to help healing and
 reduce scarring.  So if you think of cancer as a wound,
 you're trying to debride the necrosis through surgery;
 otherwise, the body has too much to overcome to create
 healthy tissue. 

I have to disagree with surgery for reasons already mentioned. I 
don't think of cancer as a wound. In my view, the primary should only 
be removed if it's the only tumour; otherwise it should probably best 
be left alone. The contributory reasons for cancer and slow healing 
you mentioned I agree with; these are usually addressed as part of a 
program.

 What I'm describing is the trophoblastic
 theory of cancer.  In any event, a multi-level marketing
 product with no clinical conclusions and, from what I can
 so, scant observational evidence, isn't going to get the job
 done. John Beard's Trophoblastic Theory of Cancer, Parts 1
 and 2 http://www.cancerdecisions.com/062602_page.html
 http://www.cancerdecisions.com/070202_page.html
 http://www.whale.to/v/duffy2.html If, however, you can
 provide REAL clinical studies or credible testimonials, I'm
 ready to change my mind.

Thanks for the links Catherine; I'm sure you'll enjoy the Haltiwange 
article. I have two of Dr. Moss' cancer books, and I use a metabolic 
enzymes blend in my practice. At least it makes more sense than 
surgery.

I know the cesium police will get me for this further off-topic 
comment, but one of my clients who had a neck lump growing for six 
years finally had a biopsy and it was malignant. He used electrical 
power much like home-brewed GEIPE therapy because the tumour was easy 
to reach with the therapy. I haven't checked with him for awhile but 
at last contact it had shrunk from egg yolk size to pea size or 
smaller. He could still find it by feeling around but the point is 
that all he used was a little electricity. It cost him all of about 
$5 Canadian 

CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread Betsy Coffey
Someone posted a question about the difference between
the effectiveness of lemon and vitmain C. I would
assume that there is something else beneficial besides
the c content of juicing the lemon. Didnt someone say
that part of the benefit is in the actual lemon peel
itself?Natural(food) forms of vitamins are always best
but I have had good success with taking vitamin c
tablets for many years. The problems with attempting
to get adequate vitamins from just food sources, is
that our food is not the same quality that it was
years ago.
I was wondering of someone could offer an explanation
for this-When I take silver with gaterade, I get a
migrane head ache. Has anyone ever heard of this?




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Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread Dave

It might have to do with the sugar you are dumping down.
I have a friend that had the same problem I told him to try
green tea instead and it took care of the problem. Wall mart has AriZona 
brand
green tea in gallon containers for $2.85 (Cheaper than water)and it is 
sweetened with splenda.

Dave



Betsy Coffey wrote:


Someone posted a question about the difference between
the effectiveness of lemon and vitmain C. I would
assume that there is something else beneficial besides
the c content of juicing the lemon. Didnt someone say
that part of the benefit is in the actual lemon peel
itself?Natural(food) forms of vitamins are always best
but I have had good success with taking vitamin c
tablets for many years. The problems with attempting
to get adequate vitamins from just food sources, is
that our food is not the same quality that it was
years ago.
I was wondering of someone could offer an explanation
for this-When I take silver with gaterade, I get a
migrane head ache. Has anyone ever heard of this?




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Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread PanAmPete
 
 
I am curious if there possibly is something else that you ate or  drank 
subsequently
after taking the cs/Gator Aide?!  I too am a migraine  sufferer, but I have 
had no ill
effects when taking the CS/gatorade on a dailybasis.  Pete




Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread V
Hi Dave,

Yeah right drink splenda to get healthy. no way hose A  LOL

http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm

you colud drink some DDT to kill germs also 





Take care,
 V


 It might have to do with the sugar you are dumping down.
 I have a friend that had the same problem I told him to try
 green tea instead and it took care of the problem. Wall mart has AriZona 
 brand
 green tea in gallon containers for $2.85 (Cheaper than water)and it is 
 sweetened with splenda.
 Dave



 Betsy Coffey wrote:

Someone posted a question about the difference between
the effectiveness of lemon and vitmain C. I would
assume that there is something else beneficial besides
the c content of juicing the lemon. Didnt someone say
that part of the benefit is in the actual lemon peel
itself?Natural(food) forms of vitamins are always best
but I have had good success with taking vitamin c
tablets for many years. The problems with attempting
to get adequate vitamins from just food sources, is
that our food is not the same quality that it was
years ago.
I was wondering of someone could offer an explanation
for this-When I take silver with gaterade, I get a
migrane head ache. Has anyone ever heard of this?


   
   
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Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread V


Can You Handle The Truth About Splenda?
So if you are among those who continue to use Splenda because you think it is a 
safe alternative to sugar or other artificial sweeteners, then I am about to 
give you a rude awakening. This artificial sweetener is not natural at all. 
Although they start with a sugar molecule they add chlorine molecules do it. 
This is a similar chemical in many respects to pesticides like DDT, and no one 
can even guess the long term consequences of ingesting this substance over many 
years. 




http://www.mercola.com/2005/feb/2/splenda_marketing.htm



Take care,
 V


 It might have to do with the sugar you are dumping down.
 I have a friend that had the same problem I told him to try
 green tea instead and it took care of the problem. Wall mart has AriZona 
 brand
 green tea in gallon containers for $2.85 (Cheaper than water)and it is 
 sweetened with splenda.
 Dave



 Betsy Coffey wrote:

Someone posted a question about the difference between
the effectiveness of lemon and vitmain C. I would
assume that there is something else beneficial besides
the c content of juicing the lemon. Didnt someone say
that part of the benefit is in the actual lemon peel
itself?Natural(food) forms of vitamins are always best
but I have had good success with taking vitamin c
tablets for many years. The problems with attempting
to get adequate vitamins from just food sources, is
that our food is not the same quality that it was
years ago.
I was wondering of someone could offer an explanation
for this-When I take silver with gaterade, I get a
migrane head ache. Has anyone ever heard of this?


   
   
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RE: CSionic-colloidal

2005-10-25 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
 
Terry Chamberlin wrote:

All that you are saying is that charged silver particles smaller than a
certain size (what you are designating *ionic*) interact with chloride in a
certain way, and charged or non-charged particles bigger than a certain size
(what you are calling
*colloidal*) do not.

That is not a true statement. Ionic silver consists of individual ions not
silver particles smaller than a certain size. 

Chamberlin's statement fail to make a distinction between ionic charge and
particle charge. 

Ionic charge is defined as
A positive or negative electric charge possessed by an ion as a result of
the gain or loss of one or more orbital electrons . Silver ions always
possess a positive ionic charge due the loss of a single electron. Ionic
charge is responsible for the  electrostatic repulsion that causes ions to
remain dispersed in a liquid.

Particle charge is defined as:
A charge imparted to the particle due to adsorption of ions from the
surrounding solution . The charge is produced at the slipping plane
surrounding the particle and is called the zeta potential . Particle
behavior in an electric field is determined by its zeta potential. 

'interact with chloride' is not the same as 'forms a chemical bond'. 

Silver particles do not form chemical bonds with chloride ions, ONLY silver
ions form chemical bonds with chloride ions(AgCl).

 The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to
the fact that silver ions combine with chloride ions to form silver chloride
and silver particles do not.

Also see the Summary of Properties: 
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Tables/Summary_of_Properties.PDF

What is written by Terry Chamberlin attempts to blur the distinction between
ions and particles. This practice is described on the webpage dealing with
bogus scientific claims:  
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/bogus-silver.html

The primary thrust of bogus scientific claims made for ionic silver
products generally involve statements to the effect that silver ions are the
same as silver particles, or that ions are particles. Because the products
being promoted consist mainly of ionic silver, not silver particles, the
promoters try to blur the distinction between these two entirely different
entities. Silver particles have the property of particle surface area and
ions do not since they are dissolved silver. Colloid effectiveness is
determined by particle surface area making it the single most important
property of a silver colloid. For more on this issue, see Particle Surface
Area and Effectiveness. Ionic silver products have very low values of
particle surface area. 


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Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread Dave

You must have been listening to Mercola
He bad mouths splenda but has nothing to give credence to his claims.
I've used splenda since the inception and have had no adverse effects as 
well as
Losing 35 lbs. It's interesting you should mention DDT as my father used 
to give us baths in it  to kill fleas and bedbugs.
 No ill affects from that either. BTW I'm 70 now and in better shape 
than most 40 year olds
Have you read the Dangers he alluded to?  I did and couldn't find 
anything concrete.

Dave


V wrote:


Hi Dave,

Yeah right drink splenda to get healthy. no way hose A  LOL

http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm

you colud drink some DDT to kill germs also 






Take care,
V


 


It might have to do with the sugar you are dumping down.
I have a friend that had the same problem I told him to try
green tea instead and it took care of the problem. Wall mart has AriZona 
brand
green tea in gallon containers for $2.85 (Cheaper than water)and it is 
sweetened with splenda.

Dave
   





 


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Someone posted a question about the difference between
the effectiveness of lemon and vitmain C. I would
assume that there is something else beneficial besides
the c content of juicing the lemon. Didnt someone say
that part of the benefit is in the actual lemon peel
itself?Natural(food) forms of vitamins are always best
but I have had good success with taking vitamin c
tablets for many years. The problems with attempting
to get adequate vitamins from just food sources, is
that our food is not the same quality that it was
years ago.
I was wondering of someone could offer an explanation
for this-When I take silver with gaterade, I get a
migrane head ache. Has anyone ever heard of this?
 




 

 
 
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Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread V
Hi Dave,

You colud very well be right considering how much info is from who knows where 
on the net. But if there is any controversy aronud certain artifical chemicals 
nad their consumption I jsut dont use them . no need to, there are plenty of 
healthy natrural alternaives like good wholesome fresh food. 




Take care,
 V


 You must have been listening to Mercola
 He bad mouths splenda but has nothing to give credence to his claims.
 I've used splenda since the inception and have had no adverse effects as 
 well as
 Losing 35 lbs. It's interesting you should mention DDT as my father used 
 to give us baths in it  to kill fleas and bedbugs.
   No ill affects from that either. BTW I'm 70 now and in better shape 
 than most 40 year olds
 Have you read the Dangers he alluded to?  I did and couldn't find 
 anything concrete.
 Dave


 V wrote:

Hi Dave,

Yeah right drink splenda to get healthy. no way hose A  LOL

http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm

you colud drink some DDT to kill germs also 





Take care,
 V


  

It might have to do with the sugar you are dumping down.
I have a friend that had the same problem I told him to try
green tea instead and it took care of the problem. Wall mart has AriZona 
brand
green tea in gallon containers for $2.85 (Cheaper than water)and it is 
sweetened with splenda.
Dave





  

Betsy Coffey wrote:



  

Someone posted a question about the difference between
the effectiveness of lemon and vitmain C. I would
assume that there is something else beneficial besides
the c content of juicing the lemon. Didnt someone say
that part of the benefit is in the actual lemon peel
itself?Natural(food) forms of vitamins are always best
but I have had good success with taking vitamin c
tablets for many years. The problems with attempting
to get adequate vitamins from just food sources, is
that our food is not the same quality that it was
years ago.
I was wondering of someone could offer an explanation
for this-When I take silver with gaterade, I get a
migrane head ache. Has anyone ever heard of this?
  



  

  
  
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CSRe: Yours in reply to theories on Cancer

2005-10-25 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Duncan - would you like to give me your address so that I can 
contact you directly on some of my own personal theories on this subject
as well - thanks
Sandee

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Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread Dave

I'm with you there.
I don't eat many supposedly  good foods that aren't  too far from 
natural like grains, sugar,pasta,alcoholic beverages and other 
carbohydrates.
The government has pushed their food pyramid for years and you can see 
the effect when you look at all the fat on the streets and all the diseases
that go along with that way of thinking. Of course the big pharms  
aren't complaining.

Dave




V wrote:


Hi Dave,

You colud very well be right considering how much info is from who knows where on the net. But if there is any controversy aronud certain artifical chemicals nad their consumption I jsut dont use them . no need to, there are plenty of healthy natrural alternaives like good wholesome fresh food. 





Take care,
V


 


You must have been listening to Mercola
He bad mouths splenda but has nothing to give credence to his claims.
I've used splenda since the inception and have had no adverse effects as 
well as
Losing 35 lbs. It's interesting you should mention DDT as my father used 
to give us baths in it  to kill fleas and bedbugs.
 No ill affects from that either. BTW I'm 70 now and in better shape 
than most 40 year olds
Have you read the Dangers he alluded to?  I did and couldn't find 
anything concrete.

Dave
   




 


V wrote:
   



 


Hi Dave,
 



 


Yeah right drink splenda to get healthy. no way hose A  LOL
 



 


http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm
 



 

you colud drink some DDT to kill germs also 
 







 


Take care,
V
 




 



 



 


It might have to do with the sugar you are dumping down.
I have a friend that had the same problem I told him to try
green tea instead and it took care of the problem. Wall mart has AriZona 
brand
green tea in gallon containers for $2.85 (Cheaper than water)and it is 
sweetened with splenda.

Dave
  
   






 



 



 


Betsy Coffey wrote:
  
   




 



 



 


Someone posted a question about the difference between
the effectiveness of lemon and vitmain C. I would
assume that there is something else beneficial besides
the c content of juicing the lemon. Didnt someone say
that part of the benefit is in the actual lemon peel
itself?Natural(food) forms of vitamins are always best
but I have had good success with taking vitamin c
tablets for many years. The problems with attempting
to get adequate vitamins from just food sources, is
that our food is not the same quality that it was
years ago.
I was wondering of someone could offer an explanation
for this-When I take silver with gaterade, I get a
migrane head ache. Has anyone ever heard of this?

 





 



 



 



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Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
As of 2005, only six human trials have been conducted
on Splenda (sucralose). Of these six trials, only two
of the trials were completed and published before the
FDA approved sucralose for human consumption. The two
published trials had a grand total of 36 total human
subjects.

Dave, if this is true, that's just bad science to
foist upon the public, isn't it? Additionally, there
are a number of natural white sugar alternatives like
sorbitol, xylitol, mannitol, fructose, etc that could
be used and certainly safer than any artificial
sweetener. But isn't it strange how companies like
Monsanto or Johnson  Johnson can't just figure out
ways to support those or other natural alternatives.
Instead, they want to make their own creation, patent
it, and make all the money for themselves. The whole
emphasis behond it all is money and greed, not
people's health, and that's 50% of the reason why
people don't like to use these manmade sweeteners like
Equal and Splenda.

Besides, Dave, it is known that from time to time,
some people seem to be made of steel and never are
significantly harmed by an onslaught of dubious
substances and live to be 100. But that doesn't
usually hold true for most people.

In any case, if Splenda is working out for you, good.
But someone who is younger (especially very young)
should probably take it more seriously, since their
whole life is potentially ahead of them, and any
negative consequences by the ingestion of these
substances is going to be greater.

-Ken Bagwell

--- Dave ddar...@centurytel.net wrote:

 You must have been listening to Mercola
 He bad mouths splenda but has nothing to give
 credence to his claims.
 I've used splenda since the inception and have had
 no adverse effects as 
 well as
 Losing 35 lbs. It's interesting you should mention
 DDT as my father used 
 to give us baths in it  to kill fleas and bedbugs.
   No ill affects from that either. BTW I'm 70 now
 and in better shape 
 than most 40 year olds
 Have you read the Dangers he alluded to?  I did and
 couldn't find 
 anything concrete.
 Dave
 
 
 V wrote:
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 Yeah right drink splenda to get healthy. no way
 hose A  LOL
 

http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm
 
 you colud drink some DDT to kill germs also 
 
 
 
 
 
 Take care,
  V
 
 
   
 
 It might have to do with the sugar you are dumping
 down.
 I have a friend that had the same problem I told
 him to try
 green tea instead and it took care of the problem.
 Wall mart has AriZona 
 brand
 green tea in gallon containers for $2.85 (Cheaper
 than water)and it is 
 sweetened with splenda.
 Dave
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 Betsy Coffey wrote:
 
 
 
   
 
 Someone posted a question about the difference
 between
 the effectiveness of lemon and vitmain C. I would
 assume that there is something else beneficial
 besides
 the c content of juicing the lemon. Didnt someone
 say
 that part of the benefit is in the actual lemon
 peel
 itself?Natural(food) forms of vitamins are always
 best
 but I have had good success with taking vitamin c
 tablets for many years. The problems with
 attempting
 to get adequate vitamins from just food sources,
 is
 that our food is not the same quality that it was
 years ago.
 I was wondering of someone could offer an
 explanation
 for this-When I take silver with gaterade, I get
 a
 migrane head ache. Has anyone ever heard of this?
   
 
 
 
   
 
   
   
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RE: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread Richard Harris
AOL EmailHi Pete,
Sorry to hear of your migraines. Have you tried not only taking CS regularly
but also folding a paper towel sheet to about 4 inches wide and wetting with
CS, placing it over your eyes  forehead as you relax in a recliner and
allow this to help make the headache disappear? I have many friends who use
this and depend on it for relief. My first CS dose daily consists of 1 oz.
CS 10 ppm + 2 oz. Gatorade--the rest of my CS intake is just my CS (with 4
cc H2O2 added to a gallon 10ppm CS upon completion of generating). God uses
this to do many of His Miracles! Praise God!
Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com


  -Original Message-
  From: panamp...@aol.com [mailto:panamp...@aol.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:24 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSlemons and gaterade


I am curious if there possibly is something else that you ate or
drank subsequently
after taking the cs/Gator Aide?!  I too am a migraine sufferer,
but I have had no ill
effects when taking the CS/gatorade on a dailybasis. Pete


Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread Leo
Why not just add a pinch of potassium chloride, or magnesium chloride, 
this way you don't get the pollutants in Gatorade?

Leo

Richard Harris wrote:


Hi Pete,
Sorry to hear of your migraines. Have you tried not only taking CS 
regularly but also folding a paper towel sheet to about 4 inches wide 
and wetting with CS, placing it over your eyes  forehead as you relax 
in a recliner and allow this to help make the headache disappear? I 
have many friends who use this and depend on it for relief. My first 
CS dose daily consists of 1 oz. CS 10 ppm + 2 oz. Gatorade--the rest 
of my CS intake is just my CS (with 4 cc H2O2 added to a gallon 10ppm 
CS upon completion of generating). God uses this to do many of His 
Miracles! Praise God!

Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.rharrisinc.com/
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com 
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com/


 


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From: panamp...@aol.com [mailto:panamp...@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSlemons and gaterade

I am curious if there possibly is something else that you ate or
drank subsequently
after taking the cs/Gator Aide?!  I too am a migraine sufferer,
but I have had no ill
effects when taking the CS/gatorade on a dailybasis. Pete



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Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread Dan Nave

Hey!  We used to practically live in DDT in India when I was a kid...

I remember my Mom hauling the dining room set out onto the patio in the 
sun and dusting it down with DDT to kill the cockroaches.


I can still recall the smell of it.

Dan



Subject: Re: CSlemons and gaterade
From: V vzo...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:33:59 -0700
To: Dave silver-list@eskimo.com

Hi Dave,

Yeah right drink splenda to get healthy. no way hose A  LOL

http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm

you colud drink some DDT to kill germs also


Take care,
 V



 It might have to do with the sugar you are dumping down.
 I have a friend that had the same problem I told him to try
 green tea instead and it took care of the problem. Wall mart has 
AriZona

 brand
 green tea in gallon containers for $2.85 (Cheaper than water)and it is
 sweetened with splenda.
 Dave


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #647

2005-10-25 Thread Dino Ciccarelli
 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:33:59 -0700
 From: V vzo...@yahoo.com
 To: Dave silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSlemons and gaterade
 Message-ID: 1387813679.20051025113...@yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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 Hi Dave,

 Yeah right drink splenda to get healthy. no way hose A  LOL

 http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm

 you colud drink some DDT to kill germs also

 Take care,
  V

this same doctor says Avoid distilled water as it has the wrong
ionization, pH, polarization and oxidation potentials. It will also
drain your body of minerals.

which is apparently a myth... taken from:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Boost-Your-Energy!--How-Alkaline-Water-Can-Heal-Your-Bodyid=80161

Another common myth surrounding distilled water is that it leaches
minerals from the body. This is not only false, but impossible. The
human body is incredibly efficient and effective and in no way could
allow water to force out essential body elements. What distilled water
does do, is transport inorganic minerals and toxins out of the body,
helping to cleanse and purify the body's internal environment.
Distilled water also has more oxygen ions and fewer hydrogen ions,
making the water far less acidic and more alkaline than other types of
water.

dc


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Re: CSlemons and gaterade

2005-10-25 Thread V
Hi Dan,

and your stidll alive today so ith must not be that bad for people, just 
mosquitos.




Take care,
 V


 Hey!  We used to practically live in DDT in India when I was a kid...

 I remember my Mom hauling the dining room set out onto the patio in the 
 sun and dusting it down with DDT to kill the cockroaches.

 I can still recall the smell of it.

 Dan



Subject: Re: CSlemons and gaterade
 From: V vzo...@yahoo.com
 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:33:59 -0700
 To: Dave silver-list@eskimo.com

 Hi Dave,

 Yeah right drink splenda to get healthy. no way hose A  LOL

 http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm

 you colud drink some DDT to kill germs also


 Take care,
   V



  It might have to do with the sugar you are dumping down.
  I have a friend that had the same problem I told him to try
  green tea instead and it took care of the problem. Wall mart has 
 AriZona
  brand
  green tea in gallon containers for $2.85 (Cheaper than water)and it is
  sweetened with splenda.
  Dave




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CSBlockbuster Question for Duncan Crow and others

2005-10-25 Thread Bruce Anderson

Duncan:
Can you tell me why I should not take this because of hemmoroids?
I looked at one site (forgor which one) and there was a list of 
conditions That should not use this product, but they didn't

say why.
TIA;
Bruce Anderson


Duncan Crow wrote:

 Are you familiar with Baseline Nutritionals Proteolytic
 Enzymes? I have been taking these, and would appreciate your
 opinion.

Blockbuster All Clear contains serrapeptase, three times the
nattokinase and lipase, a good fatty deposit dissolver.

Your brand contains no serrapeptase, but more protease and more
SeaProse.

Although Seaprose edged out serrapeptase by 15% in clinical studies,
serrapeptase is an excellent complement to nattokinase. Blockbuster
contains only about a third of the Seaprose, but it contains a huge
amount (1/3 gram) of serrapeptase.

Unlike the other enzymes, nattokinase is a potent fibrinolytic
(clotbuster), that also increases the secretion of your body's
natural clotbuster plasmin, so the three times the dose in
BlockBuster provides a distinct advantage.

 I don't understand all the HUT, FU, MCU, etc. I do
 know from reading about the ingredients, he uses Seaprose-S
 instead of serrapeptase. Thanks!

I looked at the a lot of enzyme blends before settling on
Blockbuster, and again in this case the award goes to BlockBuster All
Clear, the winner by a large margin.

Duncan


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CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy

2005-10-25 Thread hotmail angelznest


hello,

i've been on the lookout on the list, for a response to this question, but 
haven't seen it yet.  did i miss it?  has no one a response to it yet?  i'm 
also in dire need of the info and would appreciate very, very much some 
guidance.

thanks much,
angel



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 Subject: RE: CSVitamin C Therapy
 
 Lea Ann wrote:
 Can anyone find IN this website the link
 to how you force a doctor to give you IV Vitamin C therapy if you need
 it?


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