Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS
It also depends on the time of year, country you live in and how much of your body is exposed. In my case that would be just face and hands so, not enoughDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 22:04, slickpic...@cox.net slickpic...@cox.net wrote: ...If you are in the sun for 20min early morning or late evening you will get anywhere from 20.000 to 50.000 mg of d3... From Mercola's site: ...due to the physics and wavelength of UVB rays it will only penetrate the atmosphere when the sun is above an angle of about 50° from the horizon. When the sun is lower than 50°, the ozone layer reflects the UVB-rays but let through the longer UVA-rays. Terry mborg...@att.net wrote: = There are many items on the market that will help with d3. dr. Mercola sells a uvb lamp, he also sells saunas which he states will do the job. Cod liver oil but be careful with it do research as some are just fish oils and some have synthetic a and d. Sardines, which I take, and salmon. I did a study on a group of people living in Florida I interviewed 42 people who went out in the sun every day , they were dressed in tee shirts or no shirts,men, and shorts, in morning and evening also went to work, golfed, shopping etc. Of the 42 29 were on d3 per their docs they were LOW IN D3 anywhere from 5k to 10 k mg daily. Of the 29 19 had bleeding incidents. As you know d3 stays in the liver. If you are in the sun for 20min early morning or late evening you will get anywhere from 20.000 to 50.000 mg of d3, so one figures they are in the sun a total of average 2 to 3 hrs a day and yet they are low and have been taking d3 an average of 3.5 yrs- Mary--- On Mon, 1/5/15, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 8:26 AM Hi Bernadette,I 101% advocate Del Immune V too - having Hashimoto's and FMS - I used to get colds and/or flus easily. When I took D.I.V. I never got them - when I stopped taking them, bam, I'd get a cold. So I know now it truly works. In fact, I have to restock them for this year. I buy it from http://www.delimmune.com For others: which Vitamin D3 supplement does one recommend? I canno ingest soy or dairy. As for sunshine, ironically I suffer from photosensitivity! My skin gets red rashes and then it itches like crazy for a few days when I try to suntan. My vitamin D level has been low in the 40's and I need to raise it up to 80's range. Suggestions? Kindly, RaVen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
Which as I said before, would be all to do with dosage amounts. Some bright spark must have thought up a way to use a beneficial substance for a person, and turn it into something lethal for a tiny rodent. Bit like digitalis and Bella Donna - even arsenic in the correct doses can be beneficial, but lethal in larger dosesDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 22:08, mborg...@att.net wrote: look up d3 as a rodenticide or d3 as a mouse poison On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:54 PM I have done this and all I get is composition and all facts about D3 none of which mentions mouse poison. Again, I believe it is all to do with dosage, as are most thingsDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:03, mborg...@att.net wrote: United States Dept of agriculture USDA On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM Do you have a website because I couldn't find anything at all.Dee look up d3 as a rodenticide or d3 as a mouse poison On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:54 PM I have done this and all I get is composition and all facts about D3 none of which mentions mouse poison. Again, I believe it is all to do with dosage, as are most thingsDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:03, mborg...@att.net wrote: United States Dept of agriculture USDA On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM Do you have a website because I couldn't find anything at all.Dee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:12, mborg...@att.net wrote: Dee Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and type in USDA d3. One can still purchase VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3 kills the mice every time. Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research. Why does everyone get so defensive about d3??? If you like it well, but if you bleed out 3 pints of blood as a lot of people do.since d3 does eat up calcium and puts it into the blood so now it crosses the blood brain barrier. I follow Dr. Mercola but never believe in anyone always check out everything .I followed him with d3 thing in the beginning he only sold d3 alone, but than he started adding vit k, I assume so people will not bleed, than he added calcium( I do not know if he still does) guess why? Do not get mad at me, Research all the way to the beginning of d3 back to the 30's very interesting. I have studied this for 5 yrs. You do the same. Mary iOn Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 6:44 AM I use the MK-7 form of vitamin K which you should always take when supplementing with D3 and when you say mouse poison, what exactly do you mean? There are many things which would be poisonous to some species while being fine for others. Mercola who I trust implicitly, advocates D3 as cholecalciferol. I find it very difficult to obtain D3 from natural sources as I do not like fish and cannot spend enough time in the sun with the level of exposure that is required to be beneficial which is why I supplementDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 13:40, mborg...@att.net wrote: Dee d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse poison. Look up USDA( United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such. K2 keeps the body from bleeding. K2 in itself is dangerous and not to be taking lightly unless advice from doctor. Many people with certain conditions should not be taking vit k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol Best advice research, research and more research than make up your mind. Never take
Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
D3 as cholecalciferol is the form most bioavailable to humans.Dee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 22:25, mborg...@att.net wrote: -I never stated that. d3 from sun heals just about everything. next is d3 from sardines, salmon these are good next is d3 from Icelandic cod liver oil . I too believe in most things Dr. Mercola states but I cannot find what his d3 is made from. D3 man made chol,not the chol from the sun to the skin, is a rodantcide the ones in pill, liquid etc form. I do not know how else to explain it as you stated look up dr. Mercola he explains d3 but again know what you are reading. In one article he states it is from the sun. In another article on the same page he does not explain where his supplement form of d3 is from, so does one believe that all d3 is from the sun, than one has to think how can one get the sun in a pill On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:57 PM So you're saying D3 was put on this earth to poison mice? I find this very hard to believe...Dee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:01, mborg...@att.net wrote: well it is a poison d3 as cholecolciferol (sp) so how much of a peer review do you want. Sometimes when reading peer reviews first you must know which d3 are they talking about, sun, food, lamp, sauna,or chol( tired of trying to spell it) I have never read a study on d3 as chol because it is a mouse poison. Clear and simple Mary Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 9:10 AM Well if it is so dangerous it should at least be some peer-review study that shows that. So far I know rather the opposite is true, there are studies that shows the benefit of vitamin D3/AJ 2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00 mborg...@att.net: -That is a good question why haven't they banned it, or gmo's or msg,or drugs that kill, I could go forever Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time defending my statements when all of them were right there at their disposal on gov web sites. Mary--- On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:12 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Dee Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and type in USDA d3. One can still purchase VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3 kills the mice every time. Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research. If D3 is so dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is an overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of D3 and MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does a lot of research on many topics and you will see the studies and trials they reference concerning D3 and MK-7. USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the pharmaceutical corporations than we the people. Personally I tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources instead of isolates. But isolates have their place. Olushola -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.
Well said Neville and I totally agree. I tried making bread, but the flour I
bought was rubbish too, so that was a wasted effort - small example of what you
said. The animals are badly reared and crops covered in pesticides , a hole
in the ozone, acid rain and a Mercury polluted sea! Houses bunged up on every
patch of free green earth with no trees or proper gardens around them, just
concrete everywhere, and they wonder why England is becoming a flood plain. As
you say, all for money so no wonder we are all getting sicker by the day.Dee
Sent from my iPad
On 5 Jan 2015, at 22:29, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
The following is not directed at anyone in particular but more as an
opportunity for venting...
I find it incredulous that here in Australia they? are diagnosing vitamin D
deficiency every day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous. My
locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and yet the quacks are
diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT THE...???
How have we evolved as a species if all and sundry are D deficient, or has
something happened that all of a sudden the majority of the people on this
planet have somehow in more recent years become D deficient? I think we as a
species have been around for a while and have survived quite well, up to a
few years ago.
Utterly ridiculous.
The food and produce we are forced to consume are nothing but an abomination,
a poor substitute for real food and produce. It's increasingly difficult to
consume adequate natural vitamins and these substandard foods are leaching
the vitamins we may get from our bodies. Vitamin deficiency to me is a
direct result of the substandard food and produce and processed muck we
consume due to the interference by laboratory Frankensteins in the pursuit of
playing someones God, wealth, and the desire to make every man woman and
child utterly dependant and reliant on the pharmacy for survival.
People should turn their TV's off, stop reading newspapers, stop searching
for studies? on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be
more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up the garden path to
self destruction and oblivion with the bombardment on and in the body by
chemically produced concoctions under the misconception they are for the
betterment of their health.
There is not one organisation on this planet that is interested in the health
of the people!
The more science is involved with food and produce production, coupled with
the Supermarkets endless demands for profit, the more we will suffer in our
health as a species. One only has to look around to see where we are heading
as a species.
Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest fraud known to mankind
{outside of the banishment of the cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being
poisoned with each and every passing day. I'm going for the latter as the
obvious major factor here.
If people are increasingly becoming vitamin deficient they need to be asking
two questions - How and Why?
Our natural resilience and immune systems which have stood us in good stead
and seen us develop and prosper, over the odd year or three, are slowly being
destroyed.
All the above is my opinion only, and I'm danged well sticking to it g.
N.
Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.
You could have a point there Mary, it's the same old thing isn't it, like the
frenzy that was created about cholesterol and heart attack. That happened
because of a very small flawed study that has been disproven over and over
again, but still doctors bang on about so-called high cholesterol being
'bad!'Dee
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On 5 Jan 2015, at 22:41, mborg...@att.net wrote:
Hay, thanks for helping, I also believe as you, how can people be so
deficient especially in Florida.
There are those that think that the reason why everyone is so low is because
that is the way the liver wants it.
Mary
On Mon, 1/5/15, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
Subject: CSCould be argued but not by me.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 2:29 PM
The following is not directed at
anyone in particular but more as an opportunity for
venting...
I find it incredulous that here in Australia
they? are diagnosing vitamin D deficiency every
day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous.
My locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and
yet the quacks are diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT
THE...???
How have we evolved as a species if all and
sundry are D deficient, or has something happened that all
of a sudden the majority of the people on this planet have
somehow in more recent years become D deficient? I
think we as a species have been around for a while and have
survived quite well, up to a few years ago.
Utterly ridiculous.
The food and produce we are forced to consume are
nothing but an abomination, a poor substitute for real food
and produce. It's increasingly difficult to
consume adequate natural vitamins and these
substandard foods are leaching the vitamins we
may get from our bodies. Vitamin deficiency to me is a
direct result of the substandard food and produce and
processed muck we consume due to the interference by
laboratory Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones
God, wealth, and the desire to make every man
woman and child utterly dependant and reliant on the
pharmacy for survival.
People should turn their TV's off, stop
reading newspapers, stop searching for studies?
on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be
more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up
the garden path to self destruction and oblivion with the
bombardment on and in the body by chemically produced
concoctions under the misconception they are for the
betterment of their health.
There is not one organisation on this planet that
is interested in the health of the people!
The more science is involved with food and
produce production, coupled with the Supermarkets endless
demands for profit, the more we will suffer in our health as
a species. One only has to look around to see where we
are heading as a species.
Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest
fraud known to mankind {outside of the banishment of the
cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being poisoned with each
and every passing day. I'm going for the latter as
the obvious major factor here.
If people are increasingly becoming vitamin
deficient they need to be asking two questions - How and
Why?
Our natural resilience and immune systems which
have stood us in good stead and seen us develop and prosper,
over the odd year or three, are slowly being
destroyed.
All the above is my opinion only, and I'm
danged well sticking to it g.
N.
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Re: CSNew Member
Welcome Floyd. I am not the moderator, but I can tell you that people speak freely here about their experiences with the various devices. You will hear people speak for and against such. You will also note that some of the people do have related businesses, but I haven't noticed anyone self promoting. People will often provide links and recommendations for various products. Some of these people are the actual scientists and/or engineers behind the products. I suspect that our moderator will shut down anyone that is actually violating the intent of the guidance. I personally have years of experience with Sota and silverpuppy devices. I can recommend both, and greatly prefer the silverpuppy for reliably and conveniently making excellent CS for personal use. There are other good devices too that members have experience with. Feel free to ask about or talk about any devices. Victor On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Floyd Petri fpe...@eastex.net wrote: *I am new to the forum. I think that I have read everything that I need to read, but I still have a couple questions to be on the safe side. Under No Commercial Activity does that mean that I cannot ask if someone has had any bad experiences with a particular manufactured colloidal silver generator? Would they recommend it or not? Or found any problems with it electrically, mechanically or reliability, etc.?* *Floyd*
Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.
Thank you for that Victor, I will certainly study thisdee
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On 5 Jan 2015, at 23:49, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote:
Great rant Neville. Right on the money. Anyone wanting to know more about the
D3 (and all nutrition) issues should really study the work done by Dr. Weston
A. Price. Natto and cod liver oil are indeed among the few superfoods that
can help us supplement, but unfortunately most cod liver oil these days is
useless (highly processed). The very best products can be purchased from
greenpasture.org
Vitamin 'supplements' (isolated) do not have the same effect as vitamins from
foods. There are countless complex factors that affect our body's ability to
absorb and use the vitamins we need.
Talking about mice is pointless, as their body can produce certain vitamins
that ours cannot, and that is why vitamin D is indeed poison to them.
The info at westonaprice.org will lead you to a great many resources for
knowledge and action.
Victor
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
The following is not directed at anyone in particular but more as an
opportunity for venting...
I find it incredulous that here in Australia they? are diagnosing vitamin
D deficiency every day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous.
My locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and yet the quacks are
diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT THE...???
How have we evolved as a species if all and sundry are D deficient, or has
something happened that all of a sudden the majority of the people on this
planet have somehow in more recent years become D deficient? I think we as
a species have been around for a while and have survived quite well, up to a
few years ago.
Utterly ridiculous.
The food and produce we are forced to consume are nothing but an
abomination, a poor substitute for real food and produce. It's increasingly
difficult to consume adequate natural vitamins and these substandard foods
are leaching the vitamins we may get from our bodies. Vitamin deficiency to
me is a direct result of the substandard food and produce and processed muck
we consume due to the interference by laboratory Frankensteins in the
pursuit of playing someones God, wealth, and the desire to make every man
woman and child utterly dependant and reliant on the pharmacy for survival.
People should turn their TV's off, stop reading newspapers, stop searching
for studies? on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be
more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up the garden path to
self destruction and oblivion with the bombardment on and in the body by
chemically produced concoctions under the misconception they are for the
betterment of their health.
There is not one organisation on this planet that is interested in the
health of the people!
The more science is involved with food and produce production, coupled with
the Supermarkets endless demands for profit, the more we will suffer in our
health as a species. One only has to look around to see where we are
heading as a species.
Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest fraud known to mankind
{outside of the banishment of the cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being
poisoned with each and every passing day. I'm going for the latter as the
obvious major factor here.
If people are increasingly becoming vitamin deficient they need to be asking
two questions - How and Why?
Our natural resilience and immune systems which have stood us in good stead
and seen us develop and prosper, over the odd year or three, are slowly
being destroyed.
All the above is my opinion only, and I'm danged well sticking to it g.
N.
Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
Mind you, depending on how many you eat I suppose, that can be a roll of the dice because of mercury poisoning of the sea and the ecology it supports .Dee Sent from my iPad On 6 Jan 2015, at 01:22, mborg...@att.net wrote: Supplementing with natural vitd3 is great such as sardines salmon, lamps,saunas. I live in the Pacific northwest rains all the time, I supplement with sardines. Mary On Mon, 1/5/15, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote: Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 4:59 PM Trying to follow the discussion on D3 / cholecalciferol. Living in the fairly far north (very little sun in winter and not going out with a lot of exposed skin at -25°C) we've been supplementing D3 / cholecalciferol from lanolin in an olive oil base during the winter. If I understand right, some are suggesting the D3 supplementation is a bad idea while others don't agree. Possible side-effects are bleeding issues (poor clotting?) and something about how calcium is dealt with? Did I get that right? Best regards, Walter -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Mon, Jan. 5, 2015 11:48 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol Maybe, read carefully on the introduction to the right he uses the sun. In the following article which form of d3 is he referring to, sun, lamp, food, fish, sauna, or to his spray or pills which are made in India- Mary--- On Mon, 1/5/15, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote: Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM Mercola begs to differ. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vi tamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx Joe On 2015-01-05 8:40 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Dee d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse poison. Look up USDA( United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such. K2 keeps the body from bleeding. K2 in itself is dangerous and not to be taking lightly unless advice from doctor. Many people with certain conditions should not be taking vit k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol Best advice research, research and more research than make up your mind. Never take any vitamins unless you research first. Mary -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.
Hi there Victor - I did not fully read yours before I replied yesterday so here goes with what I left undone!I see no reason to start a new thread for the Chuckenguyna virus as it is now taking it's toll in Florida - you already have your own similar member of this family in the southern states - called the river virus - enough said. Sandee Attitude is everything Alive Again Colloidal Silver Eye drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Sandee, I do not mean to sound harsh, but I am concerned that you will mislead people, and even drive them away from CS, and that would be a shame. And as your email stated, you did in fact just do that. Those are people that would have been helped by your products. Why do you continuously insinuate that EIS/CS is not effective against a virus? Do you have some information that we do not? I have never found any source of information that identifies any pathogen as being resistant to CS. If you have a link to such, I would be very interested to see it. This discussion has happened countless times, and you see everyone talking about being free from cold/flu/etc. when using CS. Yet you drop these statements from time to time. This is especially ironic, since you are a user and a supplier of EIS/CS products. First hand experiences are not very relevant, as we can never be sure of all the factors affecting our own personal health. But thousands of years of usage throughout history have yet to reveal a silver resistant pathogen. (in vivo, with a somewhat healthy immune system) If you are having a particular problem with this Chicken V disease, why not start a separate thread to discuss it? I am actually curious, as in all these years I have never understood exactly what disease you were talking about. So what do you say Sandee? Will you start a discussion about your Chicken V issue? Victor On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Hi There Neville, I love it, I agree with you totally and endorse your rant - it needs to be heard so others will wake up to the dishonesty and hatred we all have generally for each other when our survival is at stake Everything is good as long as I am making money from it - I had an example of this one only recently when we had the outbreak of the Chicken V down here, all of a sudden my phone was ringing off the hook everyone wanted EIS yesterday, so I complied made more money in a few weeks than for the entire year - since this drama I have learned from my own experience that EIS cannot touch a virus and told them so - I do not expect to sell one more oz of liquid or my gel. Such is life, we have to take it as it comes and learn how to manage it all. I think all we can do is to keep smiling and our immune system as strong as is possible and manage whatever comes our way Sandeeemoji_u1f42c.png Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 5 Jan 2015, at 18:29, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: The following is not directed at anyone in particular but more as an opportunity for venting... I find it incredulous that here in Australia they? are diagnosing vitamin D deficiency every day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous. My locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and yet the quacks are diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT THE...??? How have we evolved as a species if all and sundry are D deficient, or has something happened that all of a sudden the majority of the people on this planet have somehow in more recent years become D deficient? I think we as a species have been around for a while and have survived quite well, up to a few years ago. Utterly ridiculous. The food and produce we are forced to consume are nothing but an abomination, a poor substitute for real food and produce. It's increasingly difficult to consume adequate natural vitamins and these substandard foods are leaching the vitamins we may get from our bodies. Vitamin deficiency to me is a direct result of the substandard food and produce and processed muck we consume due to the interference by laboratory Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones God, wealth, and the desire to make every man woman and child utterly dependant and reliant on the pharmacy for survival. People should turn their TV's off, stop reading newspapers, stop searching for studies? on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up the garden path to self destruction and oblivion with the bombardment on and in the body by chemically produced concoctions under the misconception they are for the betterment of their health. There is not one organisation on this planet that is interested in the health
Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.
Neville, I agree with most of what you said, It is getting to the point
where we have to take responsibility for our health and wealth. Growing our
own food is not a luxury, rather it's a necessity. People say they don't
have time, but they have time and money to grow grass! We should be
supporting our local organic gardening clubs.
I do believe that the D3 deficiency we are seeing has to do with an
imbalance in our body chemistry. So instead of looking for that magic
bullet, we should learn how to reboot our biology to restore balance.
That's easier said than done, but these forums are wealth of information
and a good start.
Olushola
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
The following is not directed at anyone in particular but more as an
opportunity for venting...
I find it incredulous that here in Australia they? are diagnosing
vitamin D deficiency every day of the week, in fact I find it utterly
preposterous. My locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and yet
the quacks are diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT THE...???
How have we evolved as a species if all and sundry are D deficient, or has
something happened that all of a sudden the majority of the people on this
planet have somehow in more recent years become D deficient? I think we as
a species have been around for a while and have survived quite well, up to
a few years ago.
Utterly ridiculous.
The food and produce we are forced to consume are nothing but an
abomination, a poor substitute for real food and produce. It's
increasingly difficult to consume adequate natural vitamins and these
substandard foods are leaching the vitamins we may get from our bodies.
Vitamin deficiency to me is a direct result of the substandard food and
produce and processed muck we consume due to the interference by laboratory
Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones God, wealth, and the
desire to make every man woman and child utterly dependant and reliant on
the pharmacy for survival.
People should turn their TV's off, stop reading newspapers, stop searching
for studies? on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be
more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up the garden path
to self destruction and oblivion with the bombardment on and in the body by
chemically produced concoctions under the misconception they are for the
betterment of their health.
There is not one organisation on this planet that is interested in the
health of the people!
The more science is involved with food and produce production, coupled
with the Supermarkets endless demands for profit, the more we will suffer
in our health as a species. One only has to look around to see where we
are heading as a species.
Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest fraud known to mankind
{outside of the banishment of the cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being
poisoned with each and every passing day. I'm going for the latter as the
obvious major factor here.
If people are increasingly becoming vitamin deficient they need to be
asking two questions - How and Why?
Our natural resilience and immune systems which have stood us in good
stead and seen us develop and prosper, over the odd year or three, are
slowly being destroyed.
All the above is my opinion only, and I'm danged well sticking to it g.
N.
Re: CSNew Member
I only means that vendors can't use the forum as a sales promotion. Ode On 1/6/2015 2:02 AM, Floyd Petri wrote: *I am new to the forum. I think that I have read everything that I need to read, but I still have a couple questions to be on the safe side. Under No Commercial Activity does that mean that I cannot ask if someone has had any bad experiences with a particular manufactured colloidal silver generator? Would they recommend it or not? Or found any problems with it electrically, mechanically or reliability, etc.?* ** *Floyd* http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
CSPlease clean up your subject lines ...
there is always an option to edit your subject line 10 plus CSRe: get a little ridiculous Thank you, Jaxi
CSa day in the sun...
I'm red headed, fair complexion, and sunburn easily.. Have not followed the d3 much but as far as being in the sun...coconut oil is God's sun screen. I can put it on in the AM and be out in the sun all day. It cuts the majority of the negatives and allows the sun to interact with your skin to generate Vitamin D. I get a bit of color but no burn, no peeling, no itch and I get darker than I've ever been in my life...and I'm crowding 70 and grew up in south Texas, been burned as an eleven year old so bad the blisters on my legs were dinner plate sizeand yes, I'm aware of the melanoma stats... You owe it to you and yours to check it out. The information is readily available. As far as the flu, colds, sinus, etc...I've taken CS for at least the last 16/17 years, several ounces daily (I do NOT not take my CS daily) and I have not had any issues with those in that whole span. CS is NOT a cure all but it certainly is not going to do any damageand I have to shake my head at those that will only take a tablespoon or soor swish it around and spit it out.. Swishing and spitting is okay if that makes one feel better but then I'd be drinking and ounce or two. Nebulizing...saturate your CS with MSM and add 10% DMSO.. Also, we tossed sugar a long time ago, opting for Xylitol instead...and if you have them both do NOT set them side by side..'cuz you will NOT be able to tell the difference.. We use it for everything we would normally use sugar for.. And for all you sceptics..and that could be most of you, I really do not care. My wife of 48 years and I are both in our late sixties and are on no prescribed meds. Uncleben ...
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Exactly. Canola oil is lethal to many insects yet millions of people consume it daily. I am not recommending canola oil as I don't consume it myself due to it's eurisic acid content and it's genetic modification to achieve that. -Original Message- From: Dee Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 2:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com Which as I said before, would be all to do with dosage amounts. Some bright spark must have thought up a way to use a beneficial substance for a person, and turn it into something lethal for a tiny rodent. Bit like digitalis and Bella Donna - even arsenic in the correct doses can be beneficial, but lethal in larger dosesDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 22:08, mborg...@att.net wrote: look up d3 as a rodenticide or d3 as a mouse poison On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:54 PM I have done this and all I get is composition and all facts about D3 none of which mentions mouse poison. Again, I believe it is all to do with dosage, as are most thingsDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:03, mborg...@att.net wrote: United States Dept of agriculture USDA On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM Do you have a website because I couldn't find anything at all.Dee look up d3 as a rodenticide or d3 as a mouse poison On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:54 PM I have done this and all I get is composition and all facts about D3 none of which mentions mouse poison. Again, I believe it is all to do with dosage, as are most thingsDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:03, mborg...@att.net wrote: United States Dept of agriculture USDA On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM Do you have a website because I couldn't find anything at all.Dee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:12, mborg...@att.net wrote: Dee Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and type in USDA d3. One can still purchase VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3 kills the mice every time. Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research. Why does everyone get so defensive about d3??? If you like it well, but if you bleed out 3 pints of blood as a lot of people do.since d3 does eat up calcium and puts it into the blood so now it crosses the blood brain barrier. I follow Dr. Mercola but never believe in anyone always check out everything .I followed him with d3 thing in the beginning he only sold d3 alone, but than he started adding vit k, I assume so people will not bleed, than he added calcium( I do not know if he still does) guess why? Do not get mad at me, Research all the way to the beginning of d3 back to the 30's very interesting. I have studied this for 5 yrs. You do the same. Mary iOn Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 6:44 AM I use the MK-7 form of vitamin K which you should always take when supplementing with D3 and when you say mouse poison, what exactly do you mean? There are many things which would be poisonous to some species while being fine for others. Mercola who I trust implicitly, advocates D3 as cholecalciferol. I find it very difficult to obtain D3 from natural sources as I do not like fish and cannot spend enough time in the sun with the level of exposure that is required to be beneficial which is why I supplementDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 13:40, mborg...@att.net wrote: Dee d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse poison.
Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS
Dee this is true. It rains most of the days where I live mary On Tue, 1/6/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 2:06 AM It also depends on the time of year, country you live in and how much of your body is exposed. In my case that would be just face and hands so, not enoughDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 22:04, slickpic...@cox.net slickpic...@cox.net wrote: ...If you are in the sun for 20min early morning or late evening you will get anywhere from 20.000 to 50.000 mg of d3... From Mercola's site: ...due to the physics and wavelength of UVB rays it will only penetrate the atmosphere when the sun is above an angle of about 50° from the horizon. When the sun is lower than 50°, the ozone layer reflects the UVB-rays but let through the longer UVA-rays. Terry mborg...@att.net wrote: = There are many items on the market that will help with d3. dr. Mercola sells a uvb lamp, he also sells saunas which he states will do the job. Cod liver oil but be careful with it do research as some are just fish oils and some have synthetic a and d. Sardines, which I take, and salmon. I did a study on a group of people living in Florida I interviewed 42 people who went out in the sun every day , they were dressed in tee shirts or no shirts,men, and shorts, in morning and evening also went to work, golfed, shopping etc. Of the 42 29 were on d3 per their docs they were LOW IN D3 anywhere from 5k to 10 k mg daily. Of the 29 19 had bleeding incidents. As you know d3 stays in the liver. If you are in the sun for 20min early morning or late evening you will get anywhere from 20.000 to 50.000 mg of d3, so one figures they are in the sun a total of average 2 to 3 hrs a day and yet they are low and have been taking d3 an average of 3.5 yrs- Mary--- On Mon, 1/5/15, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 8:26 AM Hi Bernadette,I 101% advocate Del Immune V too - having Hashimoto's and FMS - I used to get colds and/or flus easily. When I took D.I.V. I never got them - when I stopped taking them, bam, I'd get a cold. So I know now it truly works. In fact, I have to restock them for this year. I buy it from http://www.delimmune.com For others: which Vitamin D3 supplement does one recommend? I canno ingest soy or dairy. As for sunshine, ironically I suffer from photosensitivity! My skin gets red rashes and then it itches like crazy for a few days when I try to suntan. My vitamin D level has been low in the 40's and I need to raise it up to 80's range. Suggestions? Kindly, RaVen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
Dee, The process of the sun hitting the skin and turning that into d3 is called cholecalciferol. Amazing isn't it?--- On Tue, 1/6/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 2:15 AM D3 as cholecalciferol is the form most bioavailable to humans.Dee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 22:25, mborg...@att.net wrote: -I never stated that. d3 from sun heals just about everything. next is d3 from sardines, salmon these are good next is d3 from Icelandic cod liver oil . I too believe in most things Dr. Mercola states but I cannot find what his d3 is made from. D3 man made chol,not the chol from the sun to the skin, is a rodantcide the ones in pill, liquid etc form. I do not know how else to explain it as you stated look up dr. Mercola he explains d3 but again know what you are reading. In one article he states it is from the sun. In another article on the same page he does not explain where his supplement form of d3 is from, so does one believe that all d3 is from the sun, than one has to think how can one get the sun in a pill On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:57 PM So you're saying D3 was put on this earth to poison mice? I find this very hard to believe...Dee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:01, mborg...@att.net wrote: well it is a poison d3 as cholecolciferol (sp) so how much of a peer review do you want. Sometimes when reading peer reviews first you must know which d3 are they talking about, sun, food, lamp, sauna,or chol( tired of trying to spell it) I have never read a study on d3 as chol because it is a mouse poison. Clear and simple Mary Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 9:10 AM Well if it is so dangerous it should at least be some peer-review study that shows that. So far I know rather the opposite is true, there are studies that shows the benefit of vitamin D3/AJ 2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00 mborg...@att.net: -That is a good question why haven't they banned it, or gmo's or msg,or drugs that kill, I could go forever Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time defending my statements when all of them were right there at their disposal on gov web sites. Mary--- On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:12 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Dee Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and type in USDA d3. One can still purchase VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3 kills the mice every time. Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research. If D3 is so dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is an overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of D3 and MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does a lot of research on many topics and you will see the studies and trials they reference concerning D3 and MK-7. USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the pharmaceutical corporations than we the people. Personally I tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources instead of isolates. But isolates have their place. Olushola -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org
RE: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
d3 from lanolin is cholecalciferol. On Mon, 1/5/15, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote: Subject: RE: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 5:27 PM Thanks Mary. We eat wild Alaskan salmon one or more times a week as well as a few eggs from our chickens. Not sure how much D that adds up to. I wonder if D3 from lanolin qualifies as natural in the same way or not. - Walter -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Mon, Jan. 5, 2015 17:23 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol Supplementing with natural vitd3 is great such as sardines salmon, lamps,saunas. I live in the Pacific northwest rains all the time, I supplement with sardines. Mary On Mon, 1/5/15, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote: Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 4:59 PM Trying to follow the discussion on D3 / cholecalciferol. Living in the fairly far north (very little sun in winter and not going out with a lot of exposed skin at -25°C) we've been supplementing D3 / cholecalciferol from lanolin in an olive oil base during the winter. If I understand right, some are suggesting the D3 supplementation is a bad idea while others don't agree. Possible side-effects are bleeding issues (poor clotting?) and something about how calcium is dealt with? Did I get that right? Best regards, Walter -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Mon, Jan. 5, 2015 11:48 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol Maybe, read carefully on the introduction to the right he uses the sun. In the following article which form of d3 is he referring to, sun, lamp, food, fish, sauna, or to his spray or pills which are made in India- Mary--- On Mon, 1/5/15, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote: Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM Mercola begs to differ. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vi tamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx Joe On 2015-01-05 8:40 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Dee d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse poison. Look up USDA( United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such. K2 keeps the body from bleeding. K2 in itself is dangerous and not to be taking lightly unless advice from doctor. Many people with certain conditions should not be taking vit k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol Best advice research, research and more research than make up your mind. Never take any vitamins unless you research first. Mary -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
Walter is d3 from lanolin natural well yes and no. It is the process in which they extract the lanolin. Heavy duty cancer causing chemicals are used to strip the hide and get the lanolin this is how the poison is made. Lately they have been running out of sheep skin so they are using cow extracted the same way Mary On Mon, 1/5/15, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote: Subject: RE: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 5:27 PM Thanks Mary. We eat wild Alaskan salmon one or more times a week as well as a few eggs from our chickens. Not sure how much D that adds up to. I wonder if D3 from lanolin qualifies as natural in the same way or not. - Walter -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Mon, Jan. 5, 2015 17:23 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol Supplementing with natural vitd3 is great such as sardines salmon, lamps,saunas. I live in the Pacific northwest rains all the time, I supplement with sardines. Mary On Mon, 1/5/15, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote: Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 4:59 PM Trying to follow the discussion on D3 / cholecalciferol. Living in the fairly far north (very little sun in winter and not going out with a lot of exposed skin at -25°C) we've been supplementing D3 / cholecalciferol from lanolin in an olive oil base during the winter. If I understand right, some are suggesting the D3 supplementation is a bad idea while others don't agree. Possible side-effects are bleeding issues (poor clotting?) and something about how calcium is dealt with? Did I get that right? Best regards, Walter -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] Sent: Mon, Jan. 5, 2015 11:48 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol Maybe, read carefully on the introduction to the right he uses the sun. In the following article which form of d3 is he referring to, sun, lamp, food, fish, sauna, or to his spray or pills which are made in India- Mary--- On Mon, 1/5/15, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote: Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM Mercola begs to differ. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vi tamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx Joe On 2015-01-05 8:40 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Dee d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse poison. Look up USDA( United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such. K2 keeps the body from bleeding. K2 in itself is dangerous and not to be taking lightly unless advice from doctor. Many people with certain conditions should not be taking vit k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol Best advice research, research and more research than make up your mind. Never take any vitamins unless you research first. Mary -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSD3
Hi DR Richard Becker said if you want to get D3 from the sun, the sun angle must be greater than 45 degrees, remove all sun block, wait to shower until several hours after sunbath as it takes several hours for your body to absorb the oily/greasy D3.. So if you slather on sun block sunbathe and then shower before leaving the pool you not only block D3 but wash off any D3 left. When I head south for some sun I limit sun exposure to two hours, no sun block, shower several hours later. My D3 level just checked by the VA is 53. DR Becker said you must have your D3 level checked by a blood test and shoot for a reading of 50 to 70. 450 mg in a pill per day needs to be tested to see if it brings your D3 level into the right range. In my case that is not enough. Each person is different and a blood test is the only true measure of how much D3 you need to take to achieve the 50 to 70 range.. If I start to burn I spray with my EIS to stop any burn in its tracks A dip in the hot tub tells me if I start to burn. Most sunbathers I see use sun block and shower off any D3 before leaving the pool. No wonder their D3 level is low. My skin DR told me to take a pill instead of laying in the sun, I asked him how can the vitamin people put the sun in a pill? Brickey so does one believe that all d3 is from the sun, than one has to think how can one get the sun in a pill
CSDo CS or IV Vit C work on gram negative bacteria?
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CSD3
Hi DR Richard Becker (Your Health on TV) said if you want to get D3 from the sun, the sun must be above 45 degrees, shower to remove sun block, wait several several hours later to shower as it takes several hours for your body to absorb the D3. If you slather on sun block sunbathe and then shower before leaving the pool you not only have blocked D3 but wash off any you did not block. When I head south for some sun I limit sun exposure to two hours, I threw out my sun block, no after shower until later. My D3 level just checked by the VA is 53. DR Becker said to try to achieve a 50 to 70 blood level. Forget the 450 mg per day the gov't tells you to take, use a blood test. If I start to burn I spray with my EIS to stop any burn in its tracks. I detect burns by a hot tub dip. The hot water lets me know if any sunburn has started. Most sunbathers I see use sun block and shower off any D3 before leaving the pool. No wonder their D3 level is low. My skin DR told me to take a pill instead of laying in the sun, I asked him how can the vitamin people put the sun in a pill? I have had a skin cancer on top of my ear but black salve from _info@quailwoodherbal.com_ (mailto:i...@quailwoodherbal.com) took care of it. Brickey
CSVitamin D3 Rat Poison Hysteria.
You wrote: Another one I have been researching for 5 yrs is vit(hormone)d3. According to the USDA website pill,capsule,liquid etc form can be a mouse poison. As a health resacher, you may be interested in the following information: From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide : Calciferols (vitamins D), cholecalciferol (vitamin D3) and ergocalciferol (vitamin D2) are used as rodenticides. They are toxic to rodents for the same reason they are important to humans: they affect calcium and phosphate homeostasis in the body. Vitamins D are essential in minute quantities (few IUs per kilogram body weight daily, only a fraction of a milligram), and like most fat soluble vitamins, they are toxic in larger doses, causing hypervitaminosis. If the poisoning is severe enough (that is, if the dose of the toxin is high enough), it leads to death. From a conversation at http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum39/11446.html : 40,000,000 IU / gram* 0.075% = 30,000 IU / gram of rodent killer 2-3 grams is sufficient to kill a mouse. That is 75,000 IU is sufficient to kill a mouse. Humans and mice are not the same, but for comparison, a mouse is said to weigh about 25 grams and a person might weigh around 70 kilograms. If the dosage by weight is an appropriate measure for toxicity... an equivalent amount for a human would be 2,100,000,000 IU. *** Let's say a 75 kg human instead. 75 kg / 25 gram = 3000 75000 x 3000 = 150 000 000 IU Or to put it in more simple terms, 2 grams times 3000 = 6 kg of 0.075% D vit. = 4.5 gram of 100% D vit. ***
CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
Dee, Our gov. advice is 450mg daily, anyway it was maybe it still is. Mary On Tue, 1/6/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 2:13 AM Which as I said before, would be all to do with dosage amounts. Some bright spark must have thought up a way to use a beneficial substance for a person, and turn it into something lethal for a tiny rodent. Bit like digitalis and Bella Donna - even arsenic in the correct doses can be beneficial, but lethal in larger dosesDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 22:08, mborg...@att.net wrote: look up d3 as a rodenticide or d3 as a mouse poison On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:54 PM I have done this and all I get is composition and all facts about D3 none of which mentions mouse poison. Again, I believe it is all to do with dosage, as are most thingsDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:03, mborg...@att.net wrote: United States Dept of agriculture USDA On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM Do you have a website because I couldn't find anything at all.Dee look up d3 as a rodenticide or d3 as a mouse poison On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:54 PM I have done this and all I get is composition and all facts about D3 none of which mentions mouse poison. Again, I believe it is all to do with dosage, as are most thingsDee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:03, mborg...@att.net wrote: United States Dept of agriculture USDA On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM Do you have a website because I couldn't find anything at all.Dee Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:12, mborg...@att.net wrote: Dee Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and type in USDA d3. One can still purchase VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3 kills the mice every time. Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research. Why does everyone get so defensive about d3??? If you like it well, but if you bleed out 3 pints of blood as a lot of people do.since d3 does eat up calcium and puts it into the blood so now it crosses the blood brain barrier. I follow Dr. Mercola but never believe in anyone always check out everything .I followed him with d3 thing in the beginning he only sold d3 alone, but than he started adding vit k, I assume so people will not bleed, than he added calcium( I do not know if he still does) guess why? Do not get mad at me, Research all the way to the beginning of d3 back to the 30's very interesting. I have studied this for 5 yrs. You do the same. Mary iOn Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 6:44 AM I use the MK-7 form of vitamin K which you should always take when supplementing with D3 and when you say mouse poison, what exactly do you mean? There are many things which would be poisonous to some species while being fine for others. Mercola who I trust implicitly, advocates D3 as cholecalciferol. I find it very difficult to obtain D3 from natural sources as I do not like fish and cannot spend enough time in the sun with the level of exposure
Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.
-Dee,
You are absolutely right. I must have told 1 thousand people about this but is
anyone listening, I hope so, they just sort of look stunned
Mary---
On Tue, 1/6/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
Subject: Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 2:36 AM
You could have a point
there Mary, it's the same old thing isn't it, like
the frenzy that was created about cholesterol and heart
attack. That happened because of a very small flawed study
that has been disproven over and over again, but still
doctors bang on about so-called high cholesterol being
'bad!'Dee
Sent
from my iPad
On 5 Jan 2015, at
22:41, mborg...@att.net
wrote:
Hay, thanks for helping, I also believe as
you, how can people be so deficient especially in
Florida.
There are those that think
that the reason why everyone is so low is because that is
the way the liver wants it.
Mary
On Mon, 1/5/15, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Subject:
CSCould be argued but not by me.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 2:29 PM
The following is not directed at
anyone in particular but more as an
opportunity for
venting...
I find it incredulous that here in
Australia
they? are
diagnosing vitamin D deficiency every
day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous.
My locale gets around 364 days out of
365 sunlight and
yet the quacks are
diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT
THE...???
How have we evolved as a
species if all and
sundry are D
deficient, or has something happened that all
of a sudden the majority of the people on
this planet have
somehow in more recent
years become D deficient? I
think we
as a species have been around for a while and have
survived quite well, up to a few years
ago.
Utterly ridiculous.
The food and produce we are forced to
consume are
nothing but an abomination,
a poor substitute for real food
and
produce. It's increasingly difficult to
consume adequate natural vitamins and
these
substandard foods are
leaching the vitamins we
may get from
our bodies. Vitamin deficiency to me is a
direct result of the substandard food and
produce and
processed muck we consume
due to the interference by
laboratory
Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones
God, wealth, and the desire to
make every man
woman and child utterly
dependant and reliant on the
pharmacy
for survival.
People should turn their
TV's off, stop
reading newspapers,
stop searching for studies?
on their computers and throw the radio out the window and
be
more responsible for themselves,
rather than being led up
the garden
path to self destruction and oblivion with the
bombardment on and in the body by
chemically produced
concoctions under
the misconception they are for the
betterment of their health.
There is
not one organisation on this planet that
is interested in the health of the
people!
The more science is involved
with food and
produce production,
coupled with the Supermarkets endless
demands for profit, the more we will suffer in our health
as
a species. One only has to look
around to see where we
are heading as a
species.
Either the quacks are
perpetuating the greatest
fraud known
to mankind {outside of the banishment of the
cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being
poisoned with each
and every passing
day. I'm going for the latter as
the obvious major factor here.
If
people are increasingly becoming vitamin
deficient they need to be asking two
questions - How and
Why?
Our natural resilience and immune systems
which
have stood us in good stead and
seen us develop and prosper,
over the
odd year or three, are slowly being
destroyed.
All the above is my opinion
only, and I'm
danged well sticking
to it g.
N.
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I am interested in getting me a real colloidal silver generator. I am looking at a Silver 9 Microprocessor Controlled Programmable CS Generator for $160 on line. Have any of you any experience with this particular generator? Do you recommend it or what? Any pros and cons would be appreciated before I spend the money. Thanks. Floyd --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
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Re: CSa day in the sun...
Sorry, did I miss-read this? I thought you said that you take CS for 16/17 years several ounces daily, then you go on to say in brackets, that you DO NOT take your CS daily? Dee Sent from my iPad On 6 Jan 2015, at 14:28, cncsme...@aol.com wrote: I'm red headed, fair complexion, and sunburn easily.. Have not followed the d3 much but as far as being in the sun...coconut oil is God's sun screen. I can put it on in the AM and be out in the sun all day. It cuts the majority of the negatives and allows the sun to interact with your skin to generate Vitamin D. I get a bit of color but no burn, no peeling, no itch and I get darker than I've ever been in my life...and I'm crowding 70 and grew up in south Texas, been burned as an eleven year old so bad the blisters on my legs were dinner plate sizeand yes, I'm aware of the melanoma stats... You owe it to you and yours to check it out. The information is readily available. As far as the flu, colds, sinus, etc...I've taken CS for at least the last 16/17 years, several ounces daily (I do NOT not take my CS daily) and I have not had any issues with those in that whole span. CS is NOT a cure all but it certainly is not going to do any damageand I have to shake my head at those that will only take a tablespoon or soor swish it around and spit it out.. Swishing and spitting is okay if that makes one feel better but then I'd be drinking and ounce or two. Nebulizing...saturate your CS with MSM and add 10% DMSO.. Also, we tossed sugar a long time ago, opting for Xylitol instead...and if you have them both do NOT set them side by side..'cuz you will NOT be able to tell the difference.. We use it for everything we would normally use sugar for.. And for all you sceptics..and that could be most of you, I really do not care. My wife of 48 years and I are both in our late sixties and are on no prescribed meds. Uncleben ...
