Re: [SLUG] XP launch

2001-10-24 Thread DJ!
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:11 pm Subject: [SLUG] XP launch Anyone going to either session tomorrow for a laugh ? No. I'm going tomorrow afternoon to see what the hype is about, grab some freebies, catch Rove McManus do his stuff

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Quality Programming in C

2001-10-24 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Rick Welykochy wrote: I recall a few postings regarding Quality C Programming as described in a Microsoft text. The posting was perhaps on this list, about a week ago. I recall it being so funny and oxymoronic that I want the title of the book. Was this mentioned

Re: [SLUG] XP launch

2001-10-24 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, DJ! wrote: What is there to be scared of? A stable, well-supported, easy to use, popular, out-of-the-box OS? Yes, we already have one of those. A professionally-run product launch of a commercially-viable product? No, he's going to the *Windos XP* launch. After

RE: [SLUG] XP launch

2001-10-24 Thread Silcock, Stephen
What is there to be scared of? A stable, well-supported, easy to use, popular, out-of-the-box OS? A professionally-run product launch of a commercially-viable product? After putting up with Linux nothing should scare you, Jon. Looking forward to the Linux MS-Bashers running around in

RE: [SLUG] XP launch

2001-10-24 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
Wear your Penguin hats, Suse T-Shirts, Gnu-Overalls, and BSD Daemons socks :รพ Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2001 4:11 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] XP launch Anyone going to either session tomorrow

Re: [SLUG] Lindows ? Is this a hoax or for real

2001-10-24 Thread Grant Byers
Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote: http://www.lindows.com/index.html Sounds like a good idea. There are heaps of useful programmes that only run on Windoze. The capability to run Win software and Linux software on one O/S could be a Microsoft killer! disclaimer: useful programmes

RE: [SLUG] XP launch

2001-10-24 Thread Jill Rowling
Now you have obviously never been to a Linux -based commercial product launch. The last one I went to had a very intelligent Q A session which followed a delicious strong coffee and pastry pigout served on china (Corel). Before that, another one I went to was somewhat elbow-deep in engineers (HP

RE: [SLUG] Microsoft Quality Programming in C

2001-10-24 Thread Raul
I recall a few postings regarding Quality C Programming as described in a Microsoft text. The posting was perhaps on this list, about a week ago. I recall it being so funny and oxymoronic that I want the title of the book. Sounds interesting! I could just imagine them doing code

RE: [SLUG] XP launch

2001-10-24 Thread DJ!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Silcock, Stephen Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2001 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] XP launch Can you say... flame bait? Do try to keep up. DJ! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Quality Programming in C

2001-10-24 Thread Rick Welykochy
to end the thread on slug (sorry, should be slug-chat): Rick Welykochy wrote: I recall a few postings regarding Quality C Programming as described in a Microsoft text. The posting was perhaps on this list, about a week ago. I recall it being so funny and oxymoronic that I want the title

RE: [SLUG] XP launch

2001-10-24 Thread DJ!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jamie Wilkinson Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2001 4:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] XP launch Yes, we already have one of those. W2K? No, he's going to the *Windos XP* launch. ROTFL^-1

Re: [SLUG] Lindows ? Is this a hoax or for real

2001-10-24 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Grant Byers They may find themselves in hot water if this goes ahead. Trying to sell this distribution commercially as a new OS must surely violate one of the many licenses accompanying GNU/Linux.. Which one? Almost none of the software we use limits your rights to sell it

Re: [SLUG] Lindows ? Is this a hoax or for real

2001-10-24 Thread Tom Massey
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 12:52:16PM +1000, Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote: http://www.lindows.com/index.html No, the hoax is at http://www.mslinux.org/. :-) This lindows thing looks quite interesting really. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] XP launch

2001-10-24 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, iwantedthelongestemailaddressintheworldandithinkifounditbutitstilldoesn'tstopmefrombeingapuriletwitwhenipost wrote: I'm a Debian user as well as an NT/2K/98 user. I still find it funny when the penguin-bonkers take their parochial M$ Su0r5 message too seriously.

[SLUG] RE: slug digest, Vol 1 #1334 - 17 msgs

2001-10-24 Thread Rodney Sommerville
Had a look in news agent today. You can get Sausage Web Builder 5.5 for $16. Demo of latest version of 6.6. Looked a PHP book, its pretty good but asumes knowledge of HTML. It is used to give dinamic content to HTML that is data dases, active forms etc. But basic forms need to be written in HTML

Re: [SLUG] RE: slug digest, Vol 1 #1334 - 17 msgs

2001-10-24 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Rodney Sommerville Had a look in news agent today. You can get Sausage Web Builder 5.5 for $16. Demo of latest version of 6.6. Looked a PHP book, its pretty good but asumes knowledge of HTML. It is used to give dinamic content to HTML that is data dases, active forms etc. But

[SLUG] Get your linux.conf.au papers in!

2001-10-24 Thread Jeff Waugh
Hurry, hurry! - Jeff - Forwarded message from Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Linux-aus] linux.conf.au: Second Call for Papers Second Call for Papers == linux.conf.au February 6 - 9, 2002 Brisbane, Australia

[SLUG] Can't enter a directory after unzipping it

2001-10-24 Thread Simon Wong
I have downloaded the source code for Java Cookbook from O'Reilly (fabulous book!) but am having strange things happen when I UNZIP the source. After unzipping two directories are created in the current directory one called META-INF and the javacook. When I 'ls -la' it says that I am the owner

Re: [SLUG] Can't enter a directory after unzipping it

2001-10-24 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Wong 4 drw-r--r-- 43 sjw staff4096 Oct 13 19:21 javacook How do I get into that directory? chmod -R a+x javacook The execute bits on the directory are not set, the result of which is that no one is allowed to enter it. If you add the execute bit for all,

Re: [SLUG] Can't enter a directory after unzipping it

2001-10-24 Thread Ben Leslie
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Simon Wong wrote: I have downloaded the source code for Java Cookbook from O'Reilly (fabulous book!) but am having strange things happen when I UNZIP the source. After unzipping two directories are created in the current directory one called META-INF and the javacook.

Re: [SLUG] Corrupt deb system.

2001-10-24 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Ken Foskey wrote: dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 81071 package `tomcat': `Depends' field, reference to `libservlet2.2-java': version contains ` ' E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) As stated earlier my harddisk

Re: [SLUG] Corrupt deb system.

2001-10-24 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jamie Wilkinson If you were me, you'd delete /var/lib/dpkg/available, and see if an apt-get update rebuilds it. Of course, being me, you'd know that I have no idea if this'll work, so you wouldn't recommend this to anyone without first making sure. ;) Is this a circuitous way of

Re: [SLUG] Can't enter a directory after unzipping it

2001-10-24 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Wong So, if I only want to change the execute bit on the directories and not on any files in there...what tricky command could I use?? I was thinking of using find with -exec chmod but it doesn't look like it can only find directories? Oh, good call. The one I offered was

Re: [SLUG] Corrupt deb system.

2001-10-24 Thread Ken Caldwell
quote who=Ken Foskey Linux:~# apt-get install defoma --reinstall Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 48 not upgraded. 2 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/52.4kB of

Re: [SLUG] Can't enter a directory after unzipping it

2001-10-24 Thread Simon Wong
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 23:55, Jeff Waugh wrote: find -type d -exec chmod a+x {} ; Cool but you need to escape the ; Not sure why that is? Works a treat...the more I learn about Lin/Unix the more I like it :-) Thanks guys... -- * * Simon Wong* *

Re: [SLUG] Can't enter a directory after unzipping it

2001-10-24 Thread Crossfire
Simon Wong was once rumoured to have said: So, if I only want to change the execute bit on the directories and not on any files in there...what tricky command could I use?? You can do this using GNU chmod. chmod -R u+X path This will tell chmod to set +x on all the directories, or any file

Re: [SLUG] Can't enter a directory after unzipping it

2001-10-24 Thread DaZZa
On 24 Oct 2001, Simon Wong wrote: lonewolf: /usr/local/java/books $ lsa total 1528 4 drwxr-sr-x4 sjw staff4096 Oct 24 23:23 . 4 drwxr-sr-x4 sjw staff4096 Oct 24 22:57 .. 4 drw-r--r--2 sjw staff4096 Oct 13

Re: [SLUG] Can't enter a directory after unzipping it

2001-10-24 Thread Matthew Dalton
Simon Wong wrote: On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 23:55, Jeff Waugh wrote: find -type d -exec chmod a+x {} ; Cool but you need to escape the ; Not sure why that is? The semicolon marks the end of the chmod command. You have to escape it so bash doesn't interpret it as the end of the find

[SLUG] Scsi Device for Worm drive

2001-10-24 Thread Peter Rundle
Sluggers, How can I find out which /dev/??? file maps to which physical scsi device in linux? In other *nixen the channel and scsi id determine the device name eg /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s0, but in Linux it seems to allocate them based on order or something? (insert clue stick here) I've got a Scsi

[SLUG] HELP (Sendmail)

2001-10-24 Thread Alan L Tyree
Can anybody help me with a sendmail configuration problem? I have built a small class C network at home: sage (a dial-up gateway), chickie and bigdog. All machines run redhat 7. I want mail to the local network to be delivered immediately and outside mail to be queued. I have googled and tried

[SLUG] windows98 and djbdns oddity

2001-10-24 Thread Jim Clark
Does anyone here have a windows98 (in my case, win98/win4lin) talking to tinydns or dnscache successfully? I have just found my win4lin session not resolving names at all, when configured to only look at my dnscache or tinydns servers. Reconfiguring dhcpd to provide an external dns server to

RE: [SLUG] Printing using CUPS

2001-10-24 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
do you have gui ? check out kups and/or qtcups, there may even be a gnome config. also it should allow administration via the browser http://127.0.0.1:631 if I'm not mistaken is the administration page. You can use lynx to access it too, and has online help in html and pdf format It is very

[SLUG] Sendmail Question

2001-10-24 Thread scott
Hi guys, I've been trying to attempt to have sendmail accept our external mail from port 25, and route it to Lotus Notes on port 26. Im nearly there with this config: in sendmail.cf: Mlotus26,P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa08, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=2040, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h 26

RE: [SLUG] Domain Name Registration

2001-10-24 Thread George Vieira
Yes you do need a name to register the domain.. doesn't have to be a company (P/L), just a business. NetRegistry probably go through melbourneIT.. so they probably add their bit on.. just get the best price. Process takes 2 hours or 2 days.. depending how much you want to pay.. 2 days is around

RE: [SLUG] Domain Name Registration

2001-10-24 Thread Barry Park
MelbIT is INWW (Internet Names Worldwide), and has exclusive rights to the sale of .com.au domain registrations worldwide. Shop around. If you buy it off anyone else, they're only a reseller for MelbIT. - Barry -Original Message- From: Matt - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,

Re: [SLUG] Domain Name Registration

2001-10-24 Thread Howard Lowndes
You *really* want to pay C$140 for a 2 year .com.au or would you prefer to pay C1/3 (even allowing for US$/A$ conversion) of that for a 3 year (or up to 10 year) .com domain If you want to hold off for a short while the prices should plummet for .com.au when competition kicks in. As for the

Re: [SLUG] Domain Name Registration

2001-10-24 Thread David
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Howard Lowndes wrote: You *really* want to pay C$140 for a 2 year .com.au or would you prefer to pay C1/3 (even allowing for US$/A$ conversion) of that for a 3 year (or up to 10 year) .com domain I'm not so in love with the .com system. In order to protect one of my

Re: [SLUG] Domain Name Registration

2001-10-24 Thread Adam Kennedy
Melbourne IT will get you where you want to go directly. NetRegistry and the rest provide a layer of friendlyness and advice ( which your getting from the list ) that you probably don't need. They also tend to mainly do bundling, they are in it to sell you hosting, email, e-commerce etc more

[SLUG] Re: slug digest, Vol 1 #1337 - 12 msgs

2001-10-24 Thread Kevin Saenz
Alan, Firstly your C class network is a public assigned IP address? Are you using NAT? can those machines see DNS and resolve Internet names? Can anybody help me with a sendmail configuration problem? I have built a small class C network at home: sage (a dial-up gateway), chickie and

[SLUG] Webmail recommendations

2001-10-24 Thread Jeff Waugh
Hi all, Can anyone recommend / vouch for a webmail system other than IMP? (I already know IMP and sqwebmail, not too interested in comments on those.) Preferably supporting LDAP auth. Thanks, - Jeff -- Biology is the only science in which multiplication means the same