RE: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-05-21 Thread Sven Constable
Sad times. Oh wait, I forgot...the future for Modo is bright! From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jim Yeh Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:53 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: The shadow over The Foundry

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-05-21 Thread Tom Kleinenberg
] *Sent:* 30 April 2015 05:53 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: The shadow over The Foundry One has to wonder how many others are starting to evaluate or recognize the consequences of Cloud’s long term costs and scalability costs. The thing that surprised me the most

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-05-21 Thread Jim Yeh
2015 05:53 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: The shadow over The Foundry One has to wonder how many others are starting to evaluate or recognize the consequences of Cloud’s long term costs and scalability costs. The thing that surprised me the most

RE: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-30 Thread Schoenberger
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: The shadow over The Foundry On the plus side. If our University finally gets an adobe site licence it would mean no separate licences for Modo. Yes thats me looking really hard for a silver lining ;) _ From: Simon Reeves [si...@simonreeves.com] Sent: 27 April 2015 03

RE: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-30 Thread Angus Davidson
] [j.ponthi...@nasa.gov] Sent: 30 April 2015 03:42 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: The shadow over The Foundry http://art.buffalo.edu/2014/01/10/recommendations-to-students-regarding-adobe-creative-cloud/ -- Joey __ Opinions stated here

RE: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-30 Thread Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Schoenberger Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:58 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: The shadow over The Foundry On the plus side. If our University finally gets an adobe site licence Hmm

RE: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-30 Thread Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:08 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: The shadow over The Foundry I so agree with that. Unfortunately our Academics are still stuck in the have to use the market standard age. drives me insane. Luckily I have been at long

RE: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-30 Thread Angus Davidson
it for us. If Modo and Nuke are Adobe products by then, there are alternatives. From: Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] [j.ponthi...@nasa.gov] Sent: 30 April 2015 05:53 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: The shadow over The Foundry One has

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-29 Thread Perry Harovas
I totally understand what you are saying, Greg, and I see that a lot with AE. I see one person having a more stable experience, others having a less stable experience. Another with a great experience, another with intense hatred. And on and on. On the whole, in my experience and with the majority

RE: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-29 Thread Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Andy Goehler Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:32 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: The shadow over The Foundry On Apr 29, 2015, at 04:35, Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.commailto:g

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-28 Thread Stefan Kubicek
Well put Perry, exactly my thoughts! Speaking of Fusion: I had the pleasure of using the free version last week for 7 consecutive days in a a row, 10 hrs a day. It was blazingly fast (compared to AE anyway), did not crash once, and the look of the node tree was pleasing enough to not make

RE: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-28 Thread Angus Davidson
: Andy Goehler [lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 April 2015 06:32 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: The shadow over The Foundry On Apr 29, 2015, at 04:35, Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.commailto:g...@janimation.com wrote: I am not sure where all this Adobe hate comes from

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-28 Thread Andy Goehler
On Apr 29, 2015, at 04:35, Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com wrote: I am not sure where all this Adobe hate comes from,… It starts with the installer… Andy

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-28 Thread Tim Leydecker
There is a chance good things arise from The Foundry being put to the market. Personally, I´m not a fan of the recent year´s trends to put all sorts of flashy sugar coating on a bundle of applications, force support subscription down the throat along with swallowing the deal or now even

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-28 Thread Rob Wuijster
Affinity Photo is Mac only, so no threat to PS at all. If they went all platforms, than maybe they might make a little dent. Krita is starting to get really nice, expecially the 32 bit painting features are great. But no real threat either. And as long as they don't have 100% file compatibility

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-28 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
AD owned and produced a lot of stuff over the years. The various acquisitions you are thinking of in the ME group are a drop in the ocean that is their arch, viz, CAM/CAE budgets. Alias was bought for studio and the inlet in industrial CAM they missed at the time. Maya in and of itself is probably

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-28 Thread Perryharovas
Totally agree. This news sickened me and if true, could mean great things for Fusion and nothing but bad news for the rest. I've seen the usability and stability of After Effects (AE) decline sharply over the timeframe that AE has been a rental product. Updates cause problems instead of

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-28 Thread pedro santos
Raffaele, the thing is nothing like Photoshop has risen yet, right? Little competition there unlike say, MAX. They certainly cemented their position with applications integration and the acquisition of Macromedia, which had some overlap with Fireworks and Freehand, even being web-oriented, in tune

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-28 Thread Angus Davidson
Well Affinity Photo is definitely already there and its still in Beta. Pretty much for a fraction of the cost. Similarly for their Affinity Designer product. Krita is also catching up very quickly . Adobes issues start at the end of next year when the first of their 3 year deals becomes due.

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Jordi Bares Dominguez
This could be quite a blessing. jb On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:11, Nicolas Esposito 3dv...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Adobe is trying to get a piece of the VFX industries Link of the article

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Mario Reitbauer
Well in the end Adobe probably doesn't care too much about Modo. But Mari and Nuke fore sure is interesting for them. I guess if Autodesk could, they would buy them just because of Nuke ;) 2015-04-27 15:06 GMT+02:00 Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl: Can't take it too seriously when I read this

RE: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Marc-Andre Carbonneau
Ready the popcorn for some clash of the titans then! ;) From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Nicolas Esposito Sent: April-27-15 6:12 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: The shadow over The Foundry Looks like

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Toonafish
Can't take it too seriously when I read this snippet about Modo: The company* has recently launched a concept design software product http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Turman
Too bad that adobe didn't try and get a piece of the industry back in 2008. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: Can't take it too seriously when I read this snippet about Modo: The company* has recently launched a concept design software product

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Simon Reeves
great quote Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http://www.analogstudio.co.uk* On 27 April 2015 at 14:06, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: Can't take it too seriously when I read

RE: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Angus Davidson
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: The shadow over The Foundry great quote Simon Reeves London, UK si...@simonreeves.commailto:si...@simonreeves.com www.simonreeves.comhttp://www.simonreeves.com www.analogstudio.co.ukhttp://www.analogstudio.co.uk On 27 April 2015 at 14:06, Toonafish ron

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Mario Reitbauer
...@simonreeves.com] *Sent:* 27 April 2015 03:36 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: The shadow over The Foundry great quote Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com* *www.simonreeves.com http://www.simonreeves.com* *www.analogstudio.co.uk http

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Tenshi S.
no separate licences for Modo. Yes thats me looking really hard for a silver lining ;) -- *From:* Simon Reeves [si...@simonreeves.com] *Sent:* 27 April 2015 03:36 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: The shadow over The Foundry great quote

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Mario Reitbauer
no separate licences for Modo. Yes thats me looking really hard for a silver lining ;) -- *From:* Simon Reeves [si...@simonreeves.com] *Sent:* 27 April 2015 03:36 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: The shadow over The Foundry great quote

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
There must be another company named Adobe I'm not aware of... Adobe has had nothing but contempt for VFX for years, and people would actually get on board with this? If there is any truth to these incompetently written piece of news whatsoever, and that's pretty much 50/50 at best, be ready to

Re: The shadow over The Foundry

2015-04-27 Thread Nicolas Esposito
If I remember correcty Autodesk, before the big buyout in recent yearsm had only Autocad and 3ds to carry on and make good money...when they start acquiring Alias and all the others they establish themself as the company to go, simply because they were the owners. For me Adobe could possibly be