Looking for Sprinkler Supplier in Hanover MD Area

2013-12-11 Thread Bill Shipman
We are a Texas Contractor that have an overseas sprinkler project that will start soon. All pipe other material will ship out of Hanover, MD and instead of shipping from Texas to Maryland, I wanted to purchase pipe and loose material locally in Maryland for shipment out of the port at

Looking for Sprinkler Supply House in Maryland

2013-12-11 Thread Bill Shipman
We are a Texas Contractor that have an overseas sprinkler project that will start soon. All pipe other material will ship out of Hanover, MD and instead of shipping from Texas to Maryland, I wanted to purchase pipe and loose material locally in Maryland for shipment out of the port at

RE: Looking for Sprinkler Supply House in Maryland

2013-12-11 Thread John Corcoran
We use both Atlantic American and HD Supply. Both have warehouse locations in MD. Excellent service from both companies. Atlantic American: http://www.atlanticamerican.com/contact/ HD Supply: http://www.hdsupply.com/locations/ John Corcoran Victory Fire Protection, Inc. C: (484) 941-1247 | T:

RE: Looking for Sprinkler Supplier in Hanover MD Area

2013-12-11 Thread Morey, Mike
Gem Fab has a Glen Burnie facility which would be right down the street, haven't used them in years personally but they were quite competent and delivered plenty of big jobs in a timely fashion for us when I worked in Ohio. Mike Morey, CFPS, SET Planner Scheduler/Designer BMWC Constructors,

RE: Looking for Sprinkler Supplier in Hanover MD Area

2013-12-11 Thread Ben Bonanni
We are a fire protection contractor operating in the Washington, DC metropolitan area which includes Maryland and Northern Virginia. We have a fabrication facility in Capital Heights, MD. which is near Hanover. If you have cut lists and material requirements we can provide you pricing. Feel

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor
Keep simple? 4 way every change of direction.  Longitudinal every 80.   Latitudes every 40.   Flexible couplings top and bottom of riser.  These guidelines will satisfy most building departments.   Some will want calculations etc.   Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice:

Re: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread rongreenman .
That doesn't work in seismic zones Forest. That's sway bracing, not seismic bracing. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor forest_wil...@aol.com wrote: Keep simple? 4 way every change of direction. Longitudinal every 80. Latitudes every 40. Flexible

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Mackinnon
What is the difference? Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc. 850 South Second Street Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 Office 631-580-2300 Fax - 631-580-1090 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread RFletcher
We have jurisdictions in AZ that require what we call feel good bracing. No calc's required, use drive screws to attach brace from 8 pipe to wood 2x6 at the roof. A little different from the hoops we jump through for OSHPAD in CA. Ron F -Original Message- From:

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Leyton
Drive screws? Lags are no longer allowed because they pull out. Drive screws are ... negligent, arguably. Forest - all I can say about your spacing template is that it's five editions old and any BO that accepts it isn't doing the due diligence. Steve Leyton Original message

Re: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread rongreenman .
I can't recall ever using drive screws on bracing, only hanging, and always two. Lag screws are acceptable under certain conditions (wood member greater than 12 wide) for bracing but have special installation requirements. Steve M. We always called that 40/80 rule that Forest described as sway

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Thank you guys for chiming in. I always thought sway bracing was the wire/cable stuff and seismic was the rigid type... Mind us in New York, we're always behind the rest of the world! NFPA 13, 2002 strong!! lol Steven MacKinnon Fire Protection Division Hartcorn Plumbing and Heating, Inc.

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread Byron Weisz
Here on the left coast we are required to earthquake brace so when the building falls down the fire sprinkler system will still be in the air and fully operational. Byron Weisz Cen-Cal Fire Systems, Inc. 1615 So. Stockton St. Lodi, CA. 95240 Ph. (209) 334-9119 Fax (209) 334-2923

Re: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread rongreenman .
Byron, The system is supposed to hold the building up. And as I've seen in some contracts the sprinkie contractor is supposed to pay for the engineering and any improvements to the building required by the bracing. This saves the owner and the general contractor a lot of money. On Wed, Dec 11,

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread RFletcher
They make us install sway braces in a non-seismic zone because they can. We ask if they want calc's and the answer is what calc's? Were just trying to get by. We also put $5k worth of overfill protection on a 180 gallon diesel fuel tank in a pump room, because they make us. Pretty hard to

RE: Ordinary vs intermediate temperature heads

2013-12-11 Thread Brad Casterline
The original reference by Ron F. below is from NFPA 13-2010. I am now wondering if the response by Roland would indeed apply ...throughout buildings. Specifically, can we use intermediate temp residential heads in a dorm room even if far enough away from a heat source to use ordinary temp?

Re: Looking for Sprinkler Supply House in Maryland

2013-12-11 Thread Ben Young
Viking has an office in Jessup, which is very close, and Ferguson fire and fab has a branch in Baltimore as well. HD supply is right around there as well I believe. Benjamin Young On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Bill Shipman proud-te...@embarqmail.comwrote: We are a Texas Contractor that

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread Rod DiBona
Ron, Curious ... because they can... Does that mean that they have a local amendment, are using the IFC catchall that they can do what they think ( appendix clearly shows that wasn't intent but is used as a hammer) or does it mean it isn't worth the fight because you may win the battle in

Re: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread Travis Mack
I believe I know what jurisdiction Ron F is talking about. I have explained to their reviewers that per the IFC that they have adopted, bracing is not required in Seismic Design Category A/B. I ask for a reference as to where it is required. I get pointed to Chap 9 of NFPA 13. I get told

RE: EQ Bracing

2013-12-11 Thread Rod DiBona
Been there, done that. This is what I expected but was curious to see if there was an actual amendment and would have loved to see the documentation for the request. thanks -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org