Re: [EXTERNAL] Activity

2021-02-15 Thread John Drucker via Sprinklerforum
George helped me get five homes sprinklered in New Jersey. George helped me connect a great sprinkler contractor with a developer on budget. Thank You George, you left us way to soon but you made this happen in my jurisdiction. lll never forget. John Drucker

Re: [EXTERNAL] Activity

2021-02-15 Thread Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
If you were to look up George in my contact list this is what you’d find. George L. Church Rowe Sprinkler Systems Inc Owners Husband Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 > On Feb 12, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > Seems like there's been a resurgence in activity in the

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Futrell via Sprinklerforum
There really should be a "Like" button for emails, for this thread on George. Scott   Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2 Cell: (612) 759-5556 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Richard Mote via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 11:52 AM To:

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2021-02-15 Thread Richard Mote via Sprinklerforum
I had the privilege of working for George from June 2003 until his passing. I'm now retired but still doing contract design, mostly for Rowe Sprinkler. Can honestly say there almost never a day that goes by, that the thought doesn't cross my mind. What would George do? Richard L.Mote, CET

Re: Multiple System Calculation

2021-02-15 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
All - For the 2022 edition of NFPA 13, some clarifications and changes are coming for the "Phantom Flow" calculation process. The diagram in the annex has been revised. These changes are still tentative since the NITIAM process is currently occurring. Hopefully, these changes will make it easier

RE: [EXTERNAL] Noncontinuous obstructions More than 18" down

2021-02-15 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
As Kyle said in plan view the ceiling panels cover approx. 70% of the floor space. but they are spaced min 0-6 apart and slope in two directions. Thanks, Dane Long, AET Engineering Technician | Bamford Fire Sprinkler Co., Inc. P:785.825.7710 F:785.825.0667 A: 1383 W. North Street

Re: [EXTERNAL] Noncontinuous obstructions More than 18" down

2021-02-15 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
I now have the drawing. I am reviewing it. Thanks, John John August Denhardt, PE *Vice President, Engineering and Technical Services* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* m: p: 301-343-1457 214-349-5965 ext 121 w: firesprinkler.org

Re: [EXTERNAL] Noncontinuous obstructions More than 18" down

2021-02-15 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
No, I have not seen the drawing. Dane - please send me the drawing. Thanks, John John August Denhardt, PE *Vice President, Engineering and Technical Services* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* m: p: 301-343-1457 214-349-5965 ext 121 w: firesprinkler.org

RE: [EXTERNAL] Noncontinuous obstructions More than 18" down

2021-02-15 Thread Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum
Have you guys had a chance to look at the actual plans Dane is dealing with? It seems to meet the letter of the law for not requiring additional heads, but it also looks like the outlier that the committee probably wasn't expecting when that was written. In plan view, these panels cover nearly

Re: [EXTERNAL] Noncontinuous obstructions More than 18" down

2021-02-15 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
My understanding of the standard is no additional protection is needed as long as you have the 18" of clearance between the sprinkler and the top of the obstruction. As you stated, the pattern is developed sufficiently to allow adequate protection since water will be delivered on both sides of

RE: [EXTERNAL] Noncontinuous obstructions More than 18" down

2021-02-15 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
I don’t think these classify as a cloud ceiling as their 4ft by 8ft tectum ceiling panels suspended below the desk. Per A8.6.5.3.3 Ceiling panels with the width 4ft or less and the length 4ft or more and more than 18" down do not require protection. NFPA 13 doesn’t specify a max or min. spacing

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2021-02-15 Thread Fpdcdesign via Sprinklerforum
> > "George has a warehouse, that is storing nothing, how should he protect it?" > > > > Is this a fire official’s definition of nothing or a building owner’s definition of nothing? Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting

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2021-02-15 Thread Tom Duross via Sprinklerforum
April 12th from his FB page. To know him was to love him. TD Thanks Ron. He is missed. I think we should bring back "Pick on George Month". April I think his birthday was. Hopefully some remember.., "George has a warehouse, that is storing nothing, how should he protect it?" R/ Matt Seems

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2021-02-15 Thread Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum
Thanks Ron. He is missed. I think we should bring back "Pick on George Month". April I think his birthday was. Hopefully some remember.., "George has a warehouse, that is storing nothing, how should he protect it?" R/ Matt -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Ron