RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread Art Tiroly
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of AKS-Gmail-IMAP Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:49 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants I heard more about this today from an Illinois plumbing inspector

RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread Steve Leyton
: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:29 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants Then should public street hydrants need BFP installed? Arthur Tiroly ATCO Fire Protection Design Tiroly and Associates 24400 Highland Rd rm

Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread Letterman, Todd
@firesprinkler.org sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants Well ... as ridiculous as all this may sound ... In SoCal, we have water districts that are moving hard into reclaimed water. Golf courses and public green

Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread Ron Greenman
@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants Most THINK that the AWWA recommends BFP's on ALL firelines, especially deadened lines over 100 feet, but the AWWA does NOT recommend backflow protection on hydrant only lines. For I

RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread Steve Leyton
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants Well ... as ridiculous as all this may sound ... In SoCal, we have water districts that are moving hard into reclaimed water. Golf courses

RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread Steve Leyton
: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:53 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants We are doing our first

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2012-06-07 Thread Steve Leyton
@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants That's for full doc in AutoCad and CA? Presuming yes, design team meetings are to be in San Diego? Only one trip to the project site for CA inspection? That's pretty tight, but I'm inclined to do

RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread Steve Leyton
Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants We are doing our first building system off RW at this time. From our due diligence for the current project, we learned that in NorCal, there have been a few building systems connected to reclaimed

Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread Ron Greenman
@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants We are doing our first building system off RW at this time. From our due diligence for the current project, we learned that in NorCal, there have been a few building systems connected to reclaimed

RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread George Church
@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants Really RW? We have a few problems with corrosion and MIC in potable water. What else might be in these RW system that is going to eat up our systems or I suppose might be better as a slim chance. Can

RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread George Church
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants We are doing our first building system off RW at this time. From our due diligence for the current project, we learned that in NorCal, there have been a few building systems connected

RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread John Drucker
Church Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 5:29 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants Makes you wonder what we did before all the DCDA, RPZ, etc. Oh, that's right- a single check, sometimes with a cheater meter

Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-07 Thread Ron Greenman
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 5:29 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants Makes you wonder what we did before all the DCDA, RPZ, etc. Oh, that's

Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-06 Thread Timothy W Goins
Most THINK that the AWWA recommends BFP's on ALL firelines, especially deadened lines over 100 feet, but the AWWA does NOT recommend backflow protection on hydrant only lines. For I am not ashamed of the gospel , , because it is God’s power for salvation to everyone who believes... HCS Romans

RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-06 Thread RFletcher
: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:40 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants Most THINK that the AWWA recommends BFP's on ALL firelines, especially deadened lines over 100 feet, but the AWWA does NOT recommend backflow

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2012-06-06 Thread AKS-Gmail-IMAP
Subject: Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants Most THINK that the AWWA recommends BFP's on ALL firelines, especially deadened lines over 100 feet, but the AWWA does NOT recommend backflow protection on hydrant only lines. For I am not ashamed of the gospel

Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-05 Thread Bruce Verhei
Hearing? Is this rumor or have you talked directly with the AHJ? In WA State I know of one case where this level of protection was utilized, apropriately, on a Superfund site. Bv Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on ATT -Original message- From: AKS-Gmail-IMAP aksei...@gmail.com To:

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2012-06-05 Thread J. Scott Mitchell, PE
Next thing you know they'll require all the fire trucks to carry a portable back flow preventer. Are fire hoses NSF61 compliant? :-) J. Scott Mitchell, PE AKS-Gmail-IMAP aksei...@gmail.com wrote: I am hearing that in Illinois the state plumbing inspectors insist on RPZ back flow prevention

Re: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-05 Thread AKS-Gmail-IMAP
I am hearing it, not from the horse's mouth so to speak, without an unusual health hazard context. That might be construed as rumormongering. On Jun 5, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Bruce Verhei wrote: Hearing? Is this rumor or have you talked directly with the AHJ? In WA State I know of one case

RE: RPZ for a dedicated private underground fire mains having fire hydrants

2012-06-05 Thread Steve Leyton
Private fire service mains in CA have required backflows for years. The type of device varies by water authority standards, but pretty much throughout Southern California the use of an RPDA is standard practice. Whether the downstream connections are sprinklers only, plus one hydrant or with