RE: High School Weight Room - epistemology of fire hazard classification

2018-11-06 Thread David Blackwell
The likelihood and cost/benefit analysis is a debate that should be happening at the building code development and adoption phases when determining what the minimum code requirements should be in the building codes and standards. You may want to consider that public buildings that are funded by

Re: High School Weight Room - epistemology of fire hazard classification

2018-10-29 Thread Bruce Verhei
The rolled up mats I’ve seen were in side rooms. Then the mats moved in for summer. 18’ x 30’ x 9.5’h ? Stuffed. Best. Bruce Verhei > On Oct 29, 2018, at 09:10, Steve Leyton wrote: > > All of this is accurate of course … in the vacuum of What If. I guess we’ll > have to do fire and

RE: High School Weight Room - epistemology of fire hazard classification

2018-10-29 Thread Steve Leyton
All of this is accurate of course … in the vacuum of What If. I guess we’ll have to do fire and smoke models on multipurpose rooms now before we move forward with Light or Ordinary Hazard. How many rolled up mats? 5? 10? What about FCLs, should we throw in 5 x cases of 1 gal. containers

Re: High School Weight Room

2018-10-26 Thread Bruce Verhei
c. >>>> >>>> Original Question: Does anyone have any information supporting high >>>> school wrestling, fitness, and weight rooms being OH2 due to the rubber >>>> floors or foam mats? >>>> >>>> Weight roo

Re: High School Weight Room

2018-10-26 Thread Joe Burtell
rooms? Fitness (i.e. yoga and Zumba) rooms? I stand by >> my refusal to concur that the sky is falling. >> >> >> >> SL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto: >> sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprink

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2018-10-26 Thread Nick Maneen
eight rooms and fitness rooms and wrestling rooms have morphed into >> off-season high-piled storage (because expanded plastics in piles to 7’ are >> HPS).Weight rooms? Fitness (i.e. yoga and Zumba) rooms? I stand by >> my refusal to concur that the sky is falling. &g

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2018-10-26 Thread Bruce Verhei
rooms? I stand by my >> refusal to concur that the sky is falling. >> >> >> >> SL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] >> On Behalf O

Re: High School Weight Room

2018-10-26 Thread Joe Burtell
rinkler.org] *On Behalf Of *Fpdcdesign > *Sent:* Friday, October 26, 2018 8:53 AM > *To:* Sprinklerforum > *Subject:* Re: High School Weight Room > > > > If we see or are aware of a hazard greater than what the book says it > should be, don’t we have the responsibility to design to that? This

RE: High School Weight Room

2018-10-26 Thread Steve Leyton
refusal to concur that the sky is falling. SL From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Fpdcdesign Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 8:53 AM To: Sprinklerforum Subject: Re: High School Weight Room If we see or are aware of a hazard greater than what

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2018-10-26 Thread Fpdcdesign
ders. > > > > > > > > SML > > > > > > > > > > From:Sprinklerforum > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Reed > A. Roisum, SET > Sent: Friday, October 26,

RE: High School Weight Room

2018-10-26 Thread Steve Leyton
the goods off of ladders. SML From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Reed A. Roisum, SET Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 8:37 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: High School Weight Room FYI… The State of Minnesota believes

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2018-10-26 Thread Reed A. Roisum, SET
d move on … and sincerest apologies if my tone was misconstrued. SL From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Fpdcdesign Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 3:50 AM To: Sprinklerforum Subject: Re: High School Weight Room Steve, I think th

RE: High School Weight Room

2018-10-26 Thread Steve Leyton
apologies if my tone was misconstrued. SL From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Fpdcdesign Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 3:50 AM To: Sprinklerforum Subject: Re: High School Weight Room Steve, I think the gist of this is intended use vs

RE: High School Weight Room

2018-10-26 Thread Matthew J Willis
Behalf Of Fpdcdesign Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 4:50 AM To: Sprinklerforum Subject: Re: High School Weight Room Steve, I think the gist of this is intended use vs actual use. One layer of floor mats is not that big a deal. A 7 ft stack of mats in a room during the summer is. I have seen a lot of

Re: High School Weight Room

2018-10-26 Thread Fpdcdesign
t; > (Sent from my phone; please excuse typos and voice text corruptions.) > > > > > > > > Original message > > From: Scott Futrell > > Date: 10/25/18 4:24 PM (GMT-08:00) > > To: sprinklerforum@lists.fires

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2018-10-25 Thread Bruce Verhei
> >> >> Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2 >> >> Cell: (612) 759-5556 >> >> >> >> From: Sprinklerforum On >> Behalf Of Ron Greenman >> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 9:38 AM >> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> Subj

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2018-10-25 Thread Joe Burtell
be protected adequately by LH. > > > > Scott > > > > Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2 > > Cell: (612) 759-5556 > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum *On > Behalf Of *Ron Greenman > *Sent:* Thursday, October 25, 2018 9:38 AM > *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkle

RE: High School Weight Room

2018-10-25 Thread Scott Futrell
Of Steve Leyton Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 6:52 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: High School Weight Room So you believe that a movie theater seating area should be a higher hazard group because of all the exposed expanded plastics on the seating? What about

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2018-10-25 Thread Steve Leyton
: RE: High School Weight Room Exposed, expanded, Group A Plastics and when put on walls and/or floors, and/or rolled up, would not be protected adequately by LH. Scott Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2 Cell: (612) 759-5556 From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Thursday, October 25

RE: High School Weight Room

2018-10-25 Thread Scott Futrell
@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: High School Weight Room I wonder if the fuel load from those rubber/plasticine mats is greater than that of the carpeting and furnishings in an office space. Seems like it might be more than just the synthetic carpeting, but the gym is devoid of all

Re: High School Weight Room

2018-10-25 Thread Fpdcdesign
> > From:Sprinklerforum > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of > Fpdcdesign > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 7:46 AM > To: Sprinklerforum > Subject: Re: High School Weight Room > > > > > > > >

RE: High School Weight Room

2018-10-25 Thread Steve Leyton
: High School Weight Room Are they going to be stacking the mats in the off season? On Oct 25, 2018 at 10:37 AM, mailto:rongreen...@gmail.com>> wrote: I wonder if the fuel load from those rubber/plasticine mats is greater than that of the carpeting and furnishings in an office space. Seem

Re: High School Weight Room

2018-10-25 Thread Fpdcdesign
Are they going to be stacking the mats in the off season? > > On Oct 25, 2018 at 10:37 AM, mailto:rongreen...@gmail.com)> > wrote: > > > > I wonder if the fuel load from those rubber/plasticine mats is greater than > that of the carpeting and

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2018-10-25 Thread Ron Greenman
I wonder if the fuel load from those rubber/plasticine mats is greater than that of the carpeting and furnishings in an office space. Seems like it might be more than just the synthetic carpeting, but the gym is devoid of all the desks, chairs, computers, electrical cords, cubicle walls, etc.,

Re: High School Weight Room

2018-10-25 Thread Steve Leyton
More than half our work is with educational and institutional occupancies in California, where code amendments and interpretations always lean to the restrictive side of center. We have always protected weight and wrestling and yoga and fitness and community rooms as Light Hazard without much