Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-28 Thread Jens Alfke
> On Oct 27, 2019, at 1:50 PM, Thomas Kurz wrote: > > But not compatible to standards from Open Geospatial Consortium, as far as I > know. That's the nice thing about standards: there are so many of them. > Which requires additional conversions, and considering that geodata usually > have

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread D Burgess
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Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Thomas Kurz
> SQLite has had geospatial support for years via the r-tree extension, and > more recently GeoJSON. But not compatible to standards from Open Geospatial Consortium, as far as I know. Which requires additional conversions, and considering that geodata usually have sizes of a GB or more, this

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Sunday, 27 October, 2019 13:30, Richard Damon wrote: >On 10/27/19 10:24 AM, Simon Slavin wrote: >> On 27 Oct 2019, at 9:12am, Thomas Kurz wrote: >>> the discussion standard deviation has shown that at least STDEV and >>> POWER would be very helpful if they part of SQLite core. >> These

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Simon Slavin
On 27 Oct 2019, at 7:43pm, Richard Damon wrote: > My one thought about fuller ALTER TABLE support would be that since > SQLite stores the schema as the simple CREATE TABLE command, that ALTER > TABLE needs to know how to edit that string to match the changes, where > simple adds are much easier

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Richard Damon
On 10/26/19 8:07 PM, Thomas Kurz wrote: >> Feel free to make suggestions. Which missing feature or features causes > you the most bother? > > Thanks, Dan. > > To me, the most puzzling thing is the lack of full ALTER TABLE support (DROP > COLUMN, MODIFY COLUMN, ADD CONSTRAINT, DROP CONSTRAINT).

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Richard Damon
On 10/27/19 10:24 AM, Simon Slavin wrote: > On 27 Oct 2019, at 9:12am, Thomas Kurz wrote: > >> the discussion standard deviation has shown that at least STDEV and POWER >> would be very helpful if they part of SQLite core. > These are presentation issues. Not database issues. The results of

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread František Kučera
Dne 27. 10. 19 v 15:24 Simon Slavin napsal(a): > And I agree with you on RIGHT JOIN: it may duplicate what can be done with > LEFT JOIN but many SQL facilities are duplicates. It's in SQL92 and people > expect to see it. +1 This would increase portability of SQL scripts – it would be easier to

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap? - modular design

2019-10-27 Thread František Kučera
Dne 27. 10. 19 v 10:12 Thomas Kurz napsal(a): > at least some basic math would be very helpful as well. I don't want to > suggest a complete math support, that would really be far away from liteness Generally speaking, it might be difficult to say where is the line between „light“ and „heavy“.

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Jean-Christophe Deschamps
Hi Simon, Especially since it can't do something more fundamental than STDEV: return all surnames starting with the Unicode character 'Å'. Reconsider as this works fine. JcD ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Simon Slavin
On 27 Oct 2019, at 9:12am, Thomas Kurz wrote: > the discussion standard deviation has shown that at least STDEV and POWER > would be very helpful if they part of SQLite core. These are presentation issues. Not database issues. The results of such calculations are unlikely to be used to

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Thomas Kurz
> What do you mean by "SQL-basics"? I forgot to mention that at least some basic math would be very helpful as well. I don't want to suggest a complete math support, that would really be far away from liteness, but the discussion standard deviation has shown that at least STDEV and POWER would

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Thomas Kurz
> Omitting RIGHT JOIN is good, that's a misfeature and LEFT JOIN does > everything useful it does. With all dear respect, but I don't think that it is up to you to define what a "feature" and a "misfeature" is. iirc, RIGHT JOIN is declared in SQL92, it is part of the SQL standard, and

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2019-10-26 4:38 p.m., Thomas Kurz wrote: The features you name don't take away from the "liteness", they are all quite small and useful. Yes of course they are useful, I wouldn't deny that. But they are prioritized over SQL-basics, that's what I'm confused about. What do you mean by

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-27 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 26, 2019, at 6:28 PM, J. King wrote: > > a good designer will choose a good schema from the start and thus rarely need > to change it When you add new features to a long-lived application, you may occasionally have to ALTER the table(s) the app uses to allow the new feature. My

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-26 Thread Jens Alfke
> On Oct 26, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Thomas Kurz wrote: > > Geospatial support would be one of the features I would *LOVE* to see in > SQLite :-) SQLite has had geospatial support for years via the r-tree extension, and more recently GeoJSON. As for time stamps ... I’ve been using SQLite since

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-26 Thread J. King
On October 26, 2019 8:07:57 p.m. EDT, Thomas Kurz wrote: >To me, the most puzzling thing is the lack of full ALTER TABLE support >(DROP COLUMN, MODIFY COLUMN, ADD CONSTRAINT, DROP CONSTRAINT). >Modifying tables is some kind of science in SQLite, and thus, very >error-prone. I'd second this

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-26 Thread Thomas Kurz
> I suspect you are used to database servers, and haven’t used SQLite as an > embedded library inside an app Yes and no ;-) I have used database servers, and I am currently (for about 2 years) using (and appreciating!) SQLite library. > Full text search is very common Yes, of course. I

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-26 Thread Thomas Kurz
> Feel free to make suggestions. Which missing feature or features causes you the most bother? Thanks, Dan. To me, the most puzzling thing is the lack of full ALTER TABLE support (DROP COLUMN, MODIFY COLUMN, ADD CONSTRAINT, DROP CONSTRAINT). Modifying tables is some kind of science in SQLite,

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-26 Thread Thomas Kurz
> The features you name don't take away from the "liteness", they are all quite small and useful. Yes of course they are useful, I wouldn't deny that. But they are prioritized over SQL-basics, that's what I'm confused about. ___ sqlite-users mailing

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-21 Thread Richard Damon
On 10/20/19 11:03 PM, Rowan Worth wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 17:04, Simon Slavin wrote: > >> Another common request is full support for Unicode (searching, sorting, >> length()). But even just the tables required to identify character >> boundaries are huge. >> > Nitpick: there are no

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-20 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 20, 2019, at 9:20 PM, Darren Duncan wrote: > > Rowan, you're talking about Unicode codepoints; however, Unicode graphemes, > what typical humans consider to be characters, are sequences of 1..N > codepoints, example a letter plus an accent that get composed together, and > this is what

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-20 Thread Darren Duncan
Rowan, you're talking about Unicode codepoints; however, Unicode graphemes, what typical humans consider to be characters, are sequences of 1..N codepoints, example a letter plus an accent that get composed together, and this is what takes those large tables; this is related to Unicode Normal

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-20 Thread Rowan Worth
On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 17:04, Simon Slavin wrote: > Another common request is full support for Unicode (searching, sorting, > length()). But even just the tables required to identify character > boundaries are huge. > Nitpick: there are no tables required to identify character boundaries. For

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-20 Thread Jens Alfke
 > On Oct 20, 2019, at 12:53 AM, Thomas Kurz wrote: > > many "playground" gadgets keep being implemented (like virtual columns, > virtual tables, FTS3/4/5, ...), I suspect you are used to database servers, and haven’t used SQLite as an embedded library inside an app (its primary use case.)

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-20 Thread Dan Kennedy
On 20/10/62 14:53, Thomas Kurz wrote: I'd kindly ask whether there is some sort of roadmap for SQLite development? Someone recently pointed out how much he loves the "lite" and well-thought features. I cannot see that: I observe that many "playground" gadgets keep being implemented (like

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-20 Thread Simon Slavin
On 20 Oct 2019, at 8:53am, Thomas Kurz wrote: > I'd kindly ask whether there is some sort of roadmap for SQLite development? Only private to the developers, probably just mentioning whatever they're worried about at the moment. Nothing public. > Someone recently pointed out how much he loves

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-20 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2019-10-20 12:53 a.m., Thomas Kurz wrote: I'd kindly ask whether there is some sort of roadmap for SQLite development? Someone recently pointed out how much he loves the "lite" and well-thought features. I cannot see that: I observe that many "playground" gadgets keep being implemented

[sqlite] Roadmap?

2019-10-20 Thread Thomas Kurz
I'd kindly ask whether there is some sort of roadmap for SQLite development? Someone recently pointed out how much he loves the "lite" and well-thought features. I cannot see that: I observe that many "playground" gadgets keep being implemented (like virtual columns, virtual tables, FTS3/4/5,

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap for SQLite

2009-11-02 Thread Roger Binns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shaun Seckman (Firaxis) wrote: > The SQLite Consortium membership would be great but so far this > newsgroup has answered every single one of my questions within a 2 hour > window of posting..for free! The consortium membership is not about

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap for SQLite

2009-11-02 Thread P Kishor
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Scott Hess wrote: > And always remember that it's cheap to ask > - maybe the feature is in there, you just mis-understood something Whereby "it's cheap to ask" implies that it is "inexpensive to ask" and not "to ask is cowardly, impolite or

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap for SQLite

2009-11-02 Thread Scott Hess
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Shaun Seckman (Firaxis) wrote: > The SQLite Consortium membership would be great but so far this > newsgroup has answered every single one of my questions within a 2 hour > window of posting..for free!  (you guys frickin rock.)  So SQLite

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap for SQLite

2009-11-02 Thread Shaun Seckman (Firaxis)
To: General Discussion of SQLite Database Subject: Re: [sqlite] Roadmap for SQLite -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shaun Seckman (Firaxis) wrote: > I'm really interested in finding out what sort of major features or > tweaks are planned to be in upcoming releases (within the

Re: [sqlite] Roadmap for SQLite

2009-11-02 Thread Roger Binns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shaun Seckman (Firaxis) wrote: > I'm really interested in finding out what sort of major features or > tweaks are planned to be in upcoming releases (within the next 6 > months). You get what you ask for :-) Have a look at these two pages:

[sqlite] Roadmap for SQLite

2009-11-02 Thread Shaun Seckman (Firaxis)
Hello, Is there any sort of development road map for SQLite? I'm really interested in finding out what sort of major features or tweaks are planned to be in upcoming releases (within the next 6 months). The foreign key constraint feature came as a pleasant surprise but ended up

[sqlite] SQLite roadmap?

2007-08-03 Thread Samuel R. Neff
Is there a roadmap of major planned features in upcoming releases? I didn't see anything on the wiki or site.. Thanks, Sam --- We're Hiring! Seeking a passionate developer to join our team building products. Position is in the Washington D.C. metro