[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-17 Thread James K. Lowden
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:09:08 -0500
Jay Kreibich  wrote:

> although if you trace SQL back to the IBM days of SEQUEL, there is a
> strong argument that the term ?sequel? makes more sense.

IBM insisted "SQL" be pronounced as three letters for exactly that
reason: to distinguish it from its forerunner, SEQUEL.  IIRC, SEQUEL
was trademarked by another firm, and pronouncing SQL to sound like
"sequel" risked trademark infringement.  

> ?an ess-cue-ell lite database?

Yup, that's what I write, too.  But I've given up my Pedant Pin in
conversation because "sequelite" trips off this English-speaker's
tongue.  Practically saves a second every time I say it, must have
added up to hours by now.  

--jkl



[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-17 Thread Don V Nielsen
> appear to know slightly what I was talking about

O, I'm confident that I'm not the only one that relates to that
assertion

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:25 PM,  wrote:

> > On 3/16/16, Daniel Telvock  wrote:
> >
> >> I was at the Investigative Reporters and Editors Conference last week
> >> and the presenter for SQLite courses 1 and 3 said that it is actually
> >> pronounced SQ Lite. Even he thought that was odd considering SQL is a
> >> term or acronym.
> >
> > I wrote SQLite, and I think it should be pronounced "S-Q-L-ite".  Like
> > a mineral.  But I'm cool with y'all pronouncing it any way you want. :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > D. Richard Hipp
> > drh at sqlite.org
>
>
> Thank you all for the responses, video reference, and apologizes for
> the origin post of pasting directly from the Wikepedia webpage, they
> have (eskju:el'lait) or (si:kwel.lait).
>
> I'm making some tutorial videos for my project and just wished to
> appear to know slightly what I was talking about when using SQLite,
> pronouncing, for the examples database connection for demonstration.
>
> Dana Proctor
>
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[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-17 Thread da...@dandymadeproductions.com
> On 3/16/16, Daniel Telvock  wrote:
>
>> I was at the Investigative Reporters and Editors Conference last week
>> and the presenter for SQLite courses 1 and 3 said that it is actually
>> pronounced SQ Lite. Even he thought that was odd considering SQL is a
>> term or acronym.
>
> I wrote SQLite, and I think it should be pronounced "S-Q-L-ite".  Like
> a mineral.  But I'm cool with y'all pronouncing it any way you want. :-)
>
>
> --
> D. Richard Hipp
> drh at sqlite.org


Thank you all for the responses, video reference, and apologizes for
the origin post of pasting directly from the Wikepedia webpage, they
have (eskju:el'lait) or (si:kwel.lait).

I'm making some tutorial videos for my project and just wished to
appear to know slightly what I was talking about when using SQLite,
pronouncing, for the examples database connection for demonstration.

Dana Proctor



[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-17 Thread Don V Nielsen
WHAT A GREAT VIDEO.  Thanks for sharing.

Everyone I work with...or worked with...that sees me work with SQLite
(sequel lite to me) asks...what is that?  why are using that?  I love it.
It is the best configuration manager.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Jay Kreibich  wrote:

>
>
> IIRC, the SQL ISO standard defines the pronunciation of the term ?SQL? as
> "ess-cue-ell?, although if you trace SQL back to the IBM days of SEQUEL,
> there is a strong argument that the term ?sequel? makes more sense.
>
> I know when the SQLite development team speaks about it, they tend to use
> the term ?ess cue ell lite? (technically doubling the ?L?).
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jib2AmRb_rk
>
> When writing the book ?Using SQLite,? I actually had a rather long
> discussion with my editor about this, since the pronunciation affects the
> choice of words when talking about ?an ess-cue-ell lite database? vs ?a
> sequel-lite database? (?an? vs ?a?).  Knowing the development team tends to
> pronounce the letters, I went with ?an.?
>
>   -j
>
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2016, at 1:38 PM, danap at dandymadeproductions.com wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Please grant me some leeway here since as someone who has
> > not been in an academic school for years and is mainly self
> > taught. I have Mainly deriving information from reading
> > manuals and occasionally viewing some videos.
> >
> > Maybe I'm wrong, but according to Wikepedia SQLite appears
> > to be pronounced the same has it is spelled,
> > (sikwl.lat).
> > Maybe not a long A there perhaps.
> >
> > Where as I first heard Microsoft's MSSQL pronounce (sequent),
> > which I have also heard in academic videos by professors.
> > Following that logic, SQLite, (sequent.light)?
> >
> > Dana Proctor
> >
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>
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> uncomfortable." -- Angela Johnson
>
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[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread David Raymond
SQLite: Crystalline Sulfanyl Query-um Lithide




-Original Message-
From: sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org 
[mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Richard Hipp
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:54 PM
To: SQLite mailing list
Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation


I wrote SQLite, and I think it should be pronounced "S-Q-L-ite".  Like a 
mineral.  But I'm cool with y'all pronouncing it any way you want.
:-)

--
D. Richard Hipp
drh at sqlite.org


[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Keith Medcalf
Someone needs a cup from the CoFe ClO or
 2   4
(you need a fixed width font to see)


> SQLite: Crystalline Sulfanyl Query-um Lithide
> 
> 






[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Keith Medcalf

> Like, look at my name... Come on... I'd be on death row if I got even a
> TINY bit upset if someone mispronounced Stephen.  {smirk}

You mean it isn't pronounced Step Hen?






[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Adam Devita
Since Jay is The Certified SQLite Professional ,
( https://www.mail-archive.com/sqlite-users at 
mailinglists.sqlite.org/msg04840.html
) and by fortunate co-incidence what he said (and DRH) happens to
match what I was doing, I'll agree with them, and celebrate by making
a potato salad with tomatoes.

:)
Adam

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Daniel Telvock
 wrote:
> I was at the Investigative Reporters and Editors Conference last week and
> the presenter for SQLite courses 1 and 3 said that it is actually
> pronounced SQ Lite. Even he thought that was odd considering SQL is a term
> or acronym.
>
>
>
> Dan Telvock
> Environment Reporter
> Investigative Post <http://www.investigativepost.org/>
> Twitter: @dantelvock
> 716-831-2626 ext. 3
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Marc L. Allen  outsitenetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think anyone's making a fuss.  I certainly wasn't and apologize if
>> it appeared differently.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org [mailto:
>> sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
>> Chrzanowski
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:09 PM
>> To: SQLite mailing list 
>> Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation
>>
>> Standards, official, or not, I've always pronounced it as Sequel.
>> Ehm-Ess-Sequel, My-Sequel, Sequel-Lite, etc.
>>
>> IMO, S-Q-L is an acronym, as everyone knows, and since RADAR(1) is also an
>> Acronym, why the fuss?  To me, it falls off the tongue easier to say Sequel
>> instead of Ess-Queue-Ell.
>>
>> 1- http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/RADAR
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Marc L. Allen <
>> mlallen at outsitenetworks.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > That sounds like someone that comes from the land of Sequel. ;)
>> >
>> > I realize there *is* an official pronunciation, but I will probably
>> > forever pronounce it as S-Q-L-light, regardless of what it really is.
>> > :)
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org [mailto:
>> > sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of J Decker
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:48 PM
>> > To: SQLite mailing list 
>> > Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation
>> >
>> > more like sequel-ite
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:38 AM,  
>> wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > Please grant me some leeway here since as someone who has not been
>> > > in an academic school for years and is mainly self taught. I have
>> > > Mainly deriving information from reading manuals and occasionally
>> > > viewing some videos.
>> > >
>> > > Maybe I'm wrong, but according to Wikepedia SQLite appears to be
>> > > pronounced the same has it is spelled,
>> > > (sikwl.lat).
>> > > Maybe not a long A there perhaps.
>> > >
>> > > Where as I first heard Microsoft's MSSQL pronounce (sequent), which
>> > > I have also heard in academic videos by professors.
>> > > Following that logic, SQLite, (sequent.light)?
>> > >
>> > > Dana Proctor
>> > >
>> > > ___
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>> > > sqlite-users at mailinglists.sqlite.org
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>> > ___
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>> >
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[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Igor Korot
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Richard Hipp  wrote:
> On 3/16/16, Daniel Telvock  wrote:
>> I was at the Investigative Reporters and Editors Conference last week and
>> the presenter for SQLite courses 1 and 3 said that it is actually
>> pronounced SQ Lite. Even he thought that was odd considering SQL is a term
>> or acronym.
>
> I wrote SQLite, and I think it should be pronounced "S-Q-L-ite".  Like
> a mineral.  But I'm cool with y'all pronouncing it any way you want.
> :-)

Here goes an "official answer" from the author. ;-)

>
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[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/16/16, Daniel Telvock  wrote:
> I was at the Investigative Reporters and Editors Conference last week and
> the presenter for SQLite courses 1 and 3 said that it is actually
> pronounced SQ Lite. Even he thought that was odd considering SQL is a term
> or acronym.

I wrote SQLite, and I think it should be pronounced "S-Q-L-ite".  Like
a mineral.  But I'm cool with y'all pronouncing it any way you want.
:-)

-- 
D. Richard Hipp
drh at sqlite.org


[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Daniel Telvock
I was at the Investigative Reporters and Editors Conference last week and
the presenter for SQLite courses 1 and 3 said that it is actually
pronounced SQ Lite. Even he thought that was odd considering SQL is a term
or acronym.



Dan Telvock
Environment Reporter
Investigative Post <http://www.investigativepost.org/>
Twitter: @dantelvock
716-831-2626 ext. 3


On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Marc L. Allen 
wrote:

> I don't think anyone's making a fuss.  I certainly wasn't and apologize if
> it appeared differently.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org [mailto:
> sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Chrzanowski
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:09 PM
> To: SQLite mailing list 
> Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation
>
> Standards, official, or not, I've always pronounced it as Sequel.
> Ehm-Ess-Sequel, My-Sequel, Sequel-Lite, etc.
>
> IMO, S-Q-L is an acronym, as everyone knows, and since RADAR(1) is also an
> Acronym, why the fuss?  To me, it falls off the tongue easier to say Sequel
> instead of Ess-Queue-Ell.
>
> 1- http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/RADAR
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Marc L. Allen <
> mlallen at outsitenetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That sounds like someone that comes from the land of Sequel. ;)
> >
> > I realize there *is* an official pronunciation, but I will probably
> > forever pronounce it as S-Q-L-light, regardless of what it really is.
> > :)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org [mailto:
> > sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of J Decker
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:48 PM
> > To: SQLite mailing list 
> > Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation
> >
> > more like sequel-ite
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:38 AM,  
> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Please grant me some leeway here since as someone who has not been
> > > in an academic school for years and is mainly self taught. I have
> > > Mainly deriving information from reading manuals and occasionally
> > > viewing some videos.
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm wrong, but according to Wikepedia SQLite appears to be
> > > pronounced the same has it is spelled,
> > > (sikwl.lat).
> > > Maybe not a long A there perhaps.
> > >
> > > Where as I first heard Microsoft's MSSQL pronounce (sequent), which
> > > I have also heard in academic videos by professors.
> > > Following that logic, SQLite, (sequent.light)?
> > >
> > > Dana Proctor
> > >
> > > ___
> > > sqlite-users mailing list
> > > sqlite-users at mailinglists.sqlite.org
> > > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
> > ___
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> >
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[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Stephen Chrzanowski
No, not at all.  Inside and outside this forum/list I've seen arguments
about the proper pronunciation of different acronyms, and sometimes it has
gotten pretty heated.  I've got no problems with people asking the
question, I just face palm when I see people take it to the next level of
debate over something that really doesn't have an effect on anything.  So
long the idea is presented of what you're trying to communicate, I can't
grasp at why people pull out their hair, want to start wars (Nuclear or
flame) over how something.

Like, look at my name... Come on... I'd be on death row if I got even a
TINY bit upset if someone mispronounced Stephen.  {smirk}

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Marc L. Allen 
wrote:

> I don't think anyone's making a fuss.  I certainly wasn't and apologize if
> it appeared differently.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org [mailto:
> sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Chrzanowski
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:09 PM
> To: SQLite mailing list 
> Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation
>
> Standards, official, or not, I've always pronounced it as Sequel.
> Ehm-Ess-Sequel, My-Sequel, Sequel-Lite, etc.
>
> IMO, S-Q-L is an acronym, as everyone knows, and since RADAR(1) is also an
> Acronym, why the fuss?  To me, it falls off the tongue easier to say Sequel
> instead of Ess-Queue-Ell.
>
> 1- http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/RADAR
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Marc L. Allen <
> mlallen at outsitenetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That sounds like someone that comes from the land of Sequel. ;)
> >
> > I realize there *is* an official pronunciation, but I will probably
> > forever pronounce it as S-Q-L-light, regardless of what it really is.
> > :)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org [mailto:
> > sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of J Decker
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:48 PM
> > To: SQLite mailing list 
> > Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation
> >
> > more like sequel-ite
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:38 AM,  
> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Please grant me some leeway here since as someone who has not been
> > > in an academic school for years and is mainly self taught. I have
> > > Mainly deriving information from reading manuals and occasionally
> > > viewing some videos.
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm wrong, but according to Wikepedia SQLite appears to be
> > > pronounced the same has it is spelled,
> > > (sikwl.lat).
> > > Maybe not a long A there perhaps.
> > >
> > > Where as I first heard Microsoft's MSSQL pronounce (sequent), which
> > > I have also heard in academic videos by professors.
> > > Following that logic, SQLite, (sequent.light)?
> > >
> > > Dana Proctor
> > >
> > > ___
> > > sqlite-users mailing list
> > > sqlite-users at mailinglists.sqlite.org
> > > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
> > ___
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> >
> >
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[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Stephen Chrzanowski
Standards, official, or not, I've always pronounced it as Sequel.
Ehm-Ess-Sequel, My-Sequel, Sequel-Lite, etc.

IMO, S-Q-L is an acronym, as everyone knows, and since RADAR(1) is also an
Acronym, why the fuss?  To me, it falls off the tongue easier to say Sequel
instead of Ess-Queue-Ell.

1- http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/RADAR



On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Marc L. Allen 
wrote:

> That sounds like someone that comes from the land of Sequel. ;)
>
> I realize there *is* an official pronunciation, but I will probably
> forever pronounce it as S-Q-L-light, regardless of what it really is. :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org [mailto:
> sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of J Decker
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:48 PM
> To: SQLite mailing list 
> Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation
>
> more like sequel-ite
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:38 AM,   wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Please grant me some leeway here since as someone who has not been in
> > an academic school for years and is mainly self taught. I have Mainly
> > deriving information from reading manuals and occasionally viewing
> > some videos.
> >
> > Maybe I'm wrong, but according to Wikepedia SQLite appears to be
> > pronounced the same has it is spelled,
> > (sikwl.lat).
> > Maybe not a long A there perhaps.
> >
> > Where as I first heard Microsoft's MSSQL pronounce (sequent), which I
> > have also heard in academic videos by professors.
> > Following that logic, SQLite, (sequent.light)?
> >
> > Dana Proctor
> >
> > ___
> > sqlite-users mailing list
> > sqlite-users at mailinglists.sqlite.org
> > http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
> ___
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>
>
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[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread da...@dandymadeproductions.com
Hello,

Please grant me some leeway here since as someone who has
not been in an academic school for years and is mainly self
taught. I have Mainly deriving information from reading
manuals and occasionally viewing some videos.

Maybe I'm wrong, but according to Wikepedia SQLite appears
to be pronounced the same has it is spelled,
(sikwl.lat).
Maybe not a long A there perhaps.

Where as I first heard Microsoft's MSSQL pronounce (sequent),
which I have also heard in academic videos by professors.
Following that logic, SQLite, (sequent.light)?

Dana Proctor



[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Marc L. Allen
I don't think anyone's making a fuss.  I certainly wasn't and apologize if it 
appeared differently. 

-Original Message-
From: sqlite-users-bounces at mailinglists.sqlite.org 
[mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On Behalf Of Stephen 
Chrzanowski
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:09 PM
To: SQLite mailing list 
Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

Standards, official, or not, I've always pronounced it as Sequel.
Ehm-Ess-Sequel, My-Sequel, Sequel-Lite, etc.

IMO, S-Q-L is an acronym, as everyone knows, and since RADAR(1) is also an 
Acronym, why the fuss?  To me, it falls off the tongue easier to say Sequel 
instead of Ess-Queue-Ell.

1- http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/RADAR



On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Marc L. Allen 
wrote:

> That sounds like someone that comes from the land of Sequel. ;)
>
> I realize there *is* an official pronunciation, but I will probably 
> forever pronounce it as S-Q-L-light, regardless of what it really is. 
> :)
>
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> more like sequel-ite
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:38 AM,   wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Please grant me some leeway here since as someone who has not been 
> > in an academic school for years and is mainly self taught. I have 
> > Mainly deriving information from reading manuals and occasionally 
> > viewing some videos.
> >
> > Maybe I'm wrong, but according to Wikepedia SQLite appears to be 
> > pronounced the same has it is spelled, 
> > (sikwl.lat).
> > Maybe not a long A there perhaps.
> >
> > Where as I first heard Microsoft's MSSQL pronounce (sequent), which 
> > I have also heard in academic videos by professors.
> > Following that logic, SQLite, (sequent.light)?
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[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Jay Kreibich


IIRC, the SQL ISO standard defines the pronunciation of the term ?SQL? as 
"ess-cue-ell?, although if you trace SQL back to the IBM days of SEQUEL, there 
is a strong argument that the term ?sequel? makes more sense.

I know when the SQLite development team speaks about it, they tend to use the 
term ?ess cue ell lite? (technically doubling the ?L?).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jib2AmRb_rk

When writing the book ?Using SQLite,? I actually had a rather long discussion 
with my editor about this, since the pronunciation affects the choice of words 
when talking about ?an ess-cue-ell lite database? vs ?a sequel-lite database? 
(?an? vs ?a?).  Knowing the development team tends to pronounce the letters, I 
went with ?an.?

  -j



On Mar 16, 2016, at 1:38 PM, danap at dandymadeproductions.com wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Please grant me some leeway here since as someone who has
> not been in an academic school for years and is mainly self
> taught. I have Mainly deriving information from reading
> manuals and occasionally viewing some videos.
> 
> Maybe I'm wrong, but according to Wikepedia SQLite appears
> to be pronounced the same has it is spelled,
> (sikwl.lat).
> Maybe not a long A there perhaps.
> 
> Where as I first heard Microsoft's MSSQL pronounce (sequent),
> which I have also heard in academic videos by professors.
> Following that logic, SQLite, (sequent.light)?
> 
> Dana Proctor
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[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread Marc L. Allen
That sounds like someone that comes from the land of Sequel. ;)

I realize there *is* an official pronunciation, but I will probably forever 
pronounce it as S-Q-L-light, regardless of what it really is. :)

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Subject: Re: [sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

more like sequel-ite

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:38 AM,   wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Please grant me some leeway here since as someone who has not been in 
> an academic school for years and is mainly self taught. I have Mainly 
> deriving information from reading manuals and occasionally viewing 
> some videos.
>
> Maybe I'm wrong, but according to Wikepedia SQLite appears to be 
> pronounced the same has it is spelled, 
> (sikwl.lat).
> Maybe not a long A there perhaps.
>
> Where as I first heard Microsoft's MSSQL pronounce (sequent), which I 
> have also heard in academic videos by professors.
> Following that logic, SQLite, (sequent.light)?
>
> Dana Proctor
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[sqlite] SQLite Pronunciation

2016-03-16 Thread J Decker
more like sequel-ite

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:38 AM,   wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Please grant me some leeway here since as someone who has
> not been in an academic school for years and is mainly self
> taught. I have Mainly deriving information from reading
> manuals and occasionally viewing some videos.
>
> Maybe I'm wrong, but according to Wikepedia SQLite appears
> to be pronounced the same has it is spelled,
> (sikwl.lat).
> Maybe not a long A there perhaps.
>
> Where as I first heard Microsoft's MSSQL pronounce (sequent),
> which I have also heard in academic videos by professors.
> Following that logic, SQLite, (sequent.light)?
>
> Dana Proctor
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Re: [sqlite] "SQLite" Pronunciation

2013-03-01 Thread James K. Lowden
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:28:03 -0500
f...@cetussoft.com wrote:

> OK, how does one pronounce "SQLite"? "see-kwel-lite"? "ess-kyoo-lite"?
> "ess-kyoo-ell-lite"? "see-kwel-ite"? "ess-kyoo-ell-ite"? Or...?

I was going to answer S-Q-L-lite because it's definitely "S-Q-L", but I
admit to saying "sequelite" because it's easier to say.  

Then I had to ask myself on whose say-so is "S-Q-L" correct, in any
sense?  I found this:

http://patorjk.com/blog/2012/01/26/pronouncing-sql-s-q-l-or-sequel/

I occurs to me that SQL came from IBM, an organization fond of
acronymns.  If you lived in the land of SNA, LU6.2, CICS, MVS, and
IMS, you would probably pronounce it S-Q-L.  (Although I knew
Englishmen who called CICS "kicks".)

> Gee, "see-plus-plus", "emm-eff-see", and "boost" (etc.) are all a lot
> easier (to pronounce, anyway - ).

Sure, but how do you say "strstr(3)"?  ;-)

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Re: [sqlite] "SQLite" Pronunciation

2013-02-28 Thread Ned Fleming
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:21:16 +, Simon Slavin
 wrote:

>
>I was once asked whether Ministers of Parliament were shouting "here here" or 
>"hear hear" and I didn't have a clue.  I had to look it up in Hansard.  And 
>even now I know the answer I don't know how the cry originated.
>

It's "Hear! Hear!" as in "Hear him! Hear him!"

When IBM brought out SCSI, they initially pronounced it "sexy" and
wanted it that way, but somebody thought of "scuzzy" and that's what
caught fire with people. 

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Re: [sqlite] "SQLite" Pronunciation

2013-02-28 Thread Simon Slavin

On 28 Feb 2013, at 7:02pm, "Jay A. Kreibich"  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 06:28:03PM -0500, f...@cetussoft.com scratched on the 
> wall:
> 
>> I guess, to some extent, it may depend on whether one pronounces (or
>> mispronounces) "SQL" as "see-kwel" or as "ess-kyoo-ell".
> 
>  As I understand it, the "ess-cue-ell" pronunciation is part of
>  the ISO standard for SQL.

Database professionals have been pronouncing it as 'sequel' ('see kwel') for 
years.  They might be seen as 'the old guard' and ISO as the young 
standardisers fighting against them.  I don't know.  First paragraph of first 
answer:



Pronunciation is a problem with IT professionals because they get much of their 
information from written sources.  In fact I have used half a dozen computing 
technologies where I've never heard their names pronounced.  Perhaps technical 
English is getting more like German, which is a written language which people 
try to talk, rather than English, which is a spoken language which people try 
to write down.

I was once asked whether Ministers of Parliament were shouting "here here" or 
"hear hear" and I didn't have a clue.  I had to look it up in Hansard.  And 
even now I know the answer I don't know how the cry originated.

Simon.
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Re: [sqlite] "SQLite" Pronunciation

2013-02-28 Thread Jay A. Kreibich
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 06:28:03PM -0500, f...@cetussoft.com scratched on the 
wall:

> I guess, to some extent, it may depend on whether one pronounces (or
> mispronounces) "SQL" as "see-kwel" or as "ess-kyoo-ell".

  As I understand it, the "ess-cue-ell" pronunciation is part of
  the ISO standard for SQL.

> Is there a consensus here? (Yes, I know that pronunciation matters little
> on a mailing list.)

  If you want to be real formal, it does (which means, for a mailing
  list, I guess it doesn't).
  
  When I was working on "Using SQLite" I got into a discussion with my
  editor about the usage "an SQL statement" vs "a SQL statement." (or
  "an SQLite database"... it goes on an on).

  We ended up going with "an SQL..." because it is more correct for the
  "ess-cue-ell" pronunciation.

   -j

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Re: [sqlite] "SQLite" Pronunciation

2013-02-27 Thread Simon Slavin

On 27 Feb 2013, at 11:39pm, Kevin Benson  wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN_YdMdjVpU

Heh.  I can't think of a more 'cannonical' source.  I've been doing it wrong, 
but I can't remember the last time I spoke the word out loud so it doesn't 
matter.

Simon.
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Re: [sqlite] "SQLite" Pronunciation

2013-02-27 Thread Kevin Benson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN_YdMdjVpU
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 6:28 PM,  wrote:

> OK, how does one pronounce "SQLite"? "see-kwel-lite"? "ess-kyoo-lite"?
> "ess-kyoo-ell-lite"? "see-kwel-ite"? "ess-kyoo-ell-ite"? Or...?
>
> I guess, to some extent, it may depend on whether one pronounces (or
> mispronounces) "SQL" as "see-kwel" or as "ess-kyoo-ell".
>
> I think I read someplace that the author of SQLite pronounced it as
> "ess-kyoo-ell-ite". (?) I couldn't find any pronunciation mentioned on
> sqlite.org.
>
> Is there a consensus here? (Yes, I know that pronunciation matters little
> on a mailing list.)
>
> Gee, "see-plus-plus", "emm-eff-see", and "boost" (etc.) are all a lot
> easier (to pronounce, anyway - ).
>
> Fred
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[sqlite] "SQLite" Pronunciation

2013-02-27 Thread fred
OK, how does one pronounce "SQLite"? "see-kwel-lite"? "ess-kyoo-lite"?
"ess-kyoo-ell-lite"? "see-kwel-ite"? "ess-kyoo-ell-ite"? Or...?

I guess, to some extent, it may depend on whether one pronounces (or
mispronounces) "SQL" as "see-kwel" or as "ess-kyoo-ell".

I think I read someplace that the author of SQLite pronounced it as
"ess-kyoo-ell-ite". (?) I couldn't find any pronunciation mentioned on
sqlite.org.

Is there a consensus here? (Yes, I know that pronunciation matters little
on a mailing list.)

Gee, "see-plus-plus", "emm-eff-see", and "boost" (etc.) are all a lot
easier (to pronounce, anyway - ).

Fred

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