RE: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-16 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> This also is an anecdote from some time back. As we were > signing a fairly significant software contract with a large > organization their manager told us "You guys know nothing > about marketing. Your presentation was unprofessional, no > glossy brochures, no audio visuals and we would

RE: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-16 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> My intent is to provide complete detailed technical > information about SQLite, including its limitations and > faults, and honest comparisons and even recommendations of > other products (including, but not limited to DeviceSQL). My > intent is to avoid sophistry, misrepresentation, >

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-15 Thread John Stanton
stay the same... Fred Running Windoze on a "PC". I know, I know it should be Linux on a Mac. But I live in the "real world" today. I rest my case. -Original Message- From: D. Richard Hipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:04 AM To: s

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-15 Thread Scott Goodwin
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:24 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: That's true. A lot of those kinds of sales presentations are correctly targeted at decision makers that make financial decisions. I don't consider it a bad thing - it's really a necessity to be competitive. The bear in the woods isnt evil,

RE: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-15 Thread Fred Williams
e same... Fred Running Windoze on a "PC". I know, I know it should be Linux on a Mac. But I live in the "real world" today. I rest my case. > -Original Message- > From: D. Richard Hipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:04

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-15 Thread D. Richard Hipp
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:24 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: That's true. A lot of those kinds of sales presentations are correctly targeted at decision makers that make financial decisions. I don't consider it a bad thing - it's really a necessity to be competitive. My intent is to provide

RE: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-14 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> This scenario has played out multiple times. > > Say what you want about DeviceSQL the product, but one thing > is undeniable: their sales presentations are top-notch. The > first remark of yours that I quoted above shows this to be the case. Yes - but a company that sells technical

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-14 Thread drh
"Lynn Fredricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know anything about DeviceSQL but their > presentation is enough to get my respect :-) > [...] > > It seems to me that if the engineers are coming to you to defend their > selection of SQLite, then they didnt know SQLite as well as they

RE: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-14 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> > August? We start to discuss about DeviceSQL some days ago, or I am > > wrong? > > > > I have several support customer in Europe who have been > visited by the Encirq sales rep there, trying to get them to > abandon SQLite in favor of DeviceSQL. The way this normally > happens is that a

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-13 Thread steveweick
oops, fingers are moving faster than the brain :-) of course, you are right, Dennis. Steve Dennis Cote wrote: > > steveweick wrote: >> the tests were done >> using Windows XP SP2 and Linux FC5 on a 3GHz P4 with 1MB >> > > That must be very slow. ;-) > > I'm sure you meant 1GB for windows

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-13 Thread Dennis Cote
steveweick wrote: the tests were done using Windows XP SP2 and Linux FC5 on a 3GHz P4 with 1MB That must be very slow. ;-) I'm sure you meant 1GB for windows XP. Dennis Cote - To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-13 Thread John Stanton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ion Silvestru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SW: Richard, We have written to you directly before to ask you to stop the FUD and incorrect statements, and you have chosen to continue. I suggest you not waste everyone's time by circulating deliberately misleading

RE: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-13 Thread steveweick
Hi Sam, re your points below: 1. I think I said "innovative", not "revolutionary". The scheme involves using "dirty bits" rather than a log to record the transactional state of a page. 2. We plan on publishing all the details of the benchmarks in a few days. But to answer your question about

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-13 Thread drh
Ion Silvestru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >We wrote Richard back in August to correct his misstatements then. He chose > >to ignore the letter. > > August? We start to discuss about DeviceSQL some days ago, or > I am wrong? > I have several support customer in Europe who have been visited by

RE: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-13 Thread Samuel R. Neff
act [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: steveweick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:59 AM To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org Subject: Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL? oops, I guess I need to get used to this message lis

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-13 Thread drh
steveweick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > D. Richard Hipp wrote: > > > > Unfortunately, Steve Weick might not see your comment > > since he appears to have unsubscribed from the mailing list > > immediately after sending his inflammatory missive. > > Hmmm... Further digging prompted by the

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-13 Thread steveweick
oops, I guess I need to get used to this message list protocol. First let me apologize for letting Richard get me mad. Most of my friends would describe me as one of the most laid back people they know. Why am I mad you ask? We wrote Richard back in August to correct his misstatements then. He

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-13 Thread steveweick
D. Richard Hipp wrote: > > Ion Silvestru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >SW: Richard, We have written to you directly before to ask you to stop >> the >> >FUD and incorrect statements, and you have chosen to continue. I suggest >> you >> >not waste everyone's time by circulating deliberately

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-13 Thread drh
Ion Silvestru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >SW: Richard, We have written to you directly before to ask you to stop the > >FUD and incorrect statements, and you have chosen to continue. I suggest you > >not waste everyone's time by circulating deliberately misleading > >information. > > I think

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-12 Thread steveweick
This is Steve Weick, CTO & VP Engineering at Encirq Corp., developers and IP owners of DeviceSQL. I would like to address D. Richard Hipp’s statements. RDH:"If you view their web presentation and/or try out Encirq's products, I would be very interested to hear your impressions. Even better would

Re: [sqlite] Improving performance of SQLite. Anyone heard of DeviceSQL?

2007-12-11 Thread drh
Robert Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After spending some time trying various methods to optimize the performance > of SQLite for an ARM-based application, I've come across a technology called > DeviceSQL. The developers of DeviceSQL (Encirq) claim it has 5x the > performance of SQLite and