Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
digimaster wrote: > > What i mean, in the QNAP QTS you can make a group like music, and make > the user squeezeboxserver and the user(s) who manage the musicfile, both > part of it. > Then if those file have read/executed rights, squeezeboxserver can read > and see them, but not write or deleted them > In user rights when the user rights is 751, the 5 tells what users > parted of the same group can do. > That's what I meant, too. But I will check the link you provided. There's much I should learn regarding Linux. QLMS 7.9.2@2.09.8 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
No thats not what i mean. Linux/Debian where the QTS of QNap is made from, has a straight forward User/owner setup. QLogitechMediaServer runs in a chrooted debian file-system, and QTS is also debian. >From version beside the user squeezeboxserver, there also is a group squeezeboxserver. That group is important for plugins and LMS, so needed to work proper. What i mean, in the QNAP QTS you cab make a group like music, and make the user squeezeboxserver and the user(s) who manage the musicfile, both part of it. Then if those file have read/executed rights, squeezeboxserver can read and see them, but not write or deleted them In user rights when the user rights is 751, the 5 tells what user parted of the same group can do. Please look at the following link, which tries to explain who it works. User and group management is very important in linux, so also in QTS from QNap. And never ever just chance anything regarding rights or owners in QTS, just to get access but try to work with users and groups. For example if you run a ftp server on QTS, make a group FTP and make every on epart of that group who you want to uses the FTP https://www.thegeekdiary.com/understanding-basic-file-permissions-and-ownership-in-linux/ Owner/group and rights looks a bit strange a different in linux, but if you start reading and learn you understand why. And there will come a time, where you will wish MS software would work the same. dolodobendan wrote: > Are you sure these files had the same permissions / owners BEFORE you > copied them to your NAS? > > Digimaster suggested creating a group called Music and put > squeezeboxserver and my user in there. I hadn't had time to test that, > but you could. You would have to grant that new group RO access to your > music library, of course. * maintainer of QLogitechMediaServer, QOptware-NG and QAutoSub. Qnap TS-453a, with LogitechMediaSever 7.9.2 Nightly ( with spotty, youtube, Radio Paradise a.m. ) Several raspberry with hifiberry amp+ and picoreplayer. Love logitechmediaserver for it flexibel way, to play music from different sources.* digimaster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66919 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
steklo wrote: > It might turn out to be a struggle for me as well... Of course I would > have preferred all files would have come in with owner 999 and > permissions 750. Then no action would be necessary. But as some of my > files had owner 1000 I would have to work on these anyway. Changing the > owner for some files or changing permissions for all files does > not really make much difference, does it? At least I hope that next time > all files will come in with owner set to 1000... > Anyway I will monitor this and maybe I'll find the reason if there still > appear to be different owners... Are you sure these files had the same permissions / owners BEFORE you copied them to your NAS? Digimaster suggested creating a group called Music and put squeezeboxserver and my user in there. I hadn't had time to test that, but you could. You would have to grant that new group RO access to your music library, of course. QLMS 7.9.2@2.09.8 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
dolodobendan wrote: > I'd call this procedure a struggle. That's why I want my files to have > the correct permissions as soon as they are on my server. It might turn out to be a struggle for me as well... Of course I would have preferred all files would have come in with owner 999 and permissions 750. Then no action would be necessary. But as some of my files had owner 1000 I would have to work on these anyway. Changing the owner for some files or changing permissions for all files does not really make much difference, does it? At least I hope that next time all files will come in with owner set to 1000... Anyway I will monitor this and maybe I'll find the reason if there still appear to be different owners... dolodobendan wrote: > And that's why I'm back with QLMS 2.04. That's the version I also use. steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
steklo wrote: > Last weekend I copied some new albums into the music folder my NAS. > Connecting with Cyberduck showed that all new files had permissions 750 > and owner was 999 for the larger part of them and 1000 for the rest. > Don't ask me why - all files come from the same place and get copied in > one session using CarbonCopyCloner. Maybe these files had different permissions from the beginning. steklo wrote: > I decided to try digimasters approach first: Setting permissions to 755 > with a normal user (1000) as owner for the Multimedia folder with all > subfolders and files. > > Two recommendations: 1. Better reconnect with Cyberock after having > applied some changes as not all changes seem to get updated on the > screen within a session. 2. Better stop LMS before applying changes, as > it seemed some files were blocked with LMS running. 1. It's not unusual to have to refresh the view when using FTP clients. (And that should be sufficient, no need to restart anything.) 2. Not sure what you are applying where, but sure, why not. :) steklo wrote: > After having successfully set up both owner and permissions like > digimaster suggested, everything's running fine. For the future I will > better do this procedure everytime I update my library to prevent any > struggle. I'd call this procedure a struggle. That's why I want my files to have the correct permissions as soon as they are on my server. steklo wrote: > I'm still not sure why it always worked nice without caring about > permissions and owner for so long before and why it then suddenly became > an issue. And that's why I'm back with QLMS 2.04. steklo wrote: > IAnyway with your help I learned some things and now know how to help > myself with that kind of problem. Great. :) QLMS 7.9.2@2.09.8 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
dolodobendan wrote: > If you copied all the files from the same computer and with the same > user account to your NAS share, they all should have the same owner and > set of permissions. Last weekend I copied some new albums into the music folder my NAS. Connecting with Cyberduck showed that all new files had permissions 750 and owner was 999 for the larger part of them and 1000 for the rest. Don't ask me why  all files come from the same place and get copied in one session using CarbonCopyCloner. I decided to try digimasters approach first: Setting permissions to 755 with a normal user (1000) as owner for the Multimedia folder with all subfolders and files. Two recommendations: 1. Better reconnect with Cyberock after having applied some changes as not all changes seem to get updated on the screen. 2. Better stop LMS before applying changes, as it seemed some files were blocked with LMS running. After having successfully set up both owner and permissions like digimaster suggested, everything's running fine. For the future I will better do this procedure everytime I update my library to prevent any struggle. I'm still not sure why it always worked nice without caring about permissions and owner for so long befoire and why it then suddenly became an issue. Anyway with your help I learned some things and now know how to help myself with that kind of problem. steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
d6jg wrote: > If I was running a Pi (I have) it would be much faster than the QNAP!!! > I actually use an old dual core HP Microserver with 8GB RAM and a single > SSD but the files on the NAS (a really old 4 disk/raid 5 TS419P) via > NFS. > The HP running VB2.4 is much faster (and more resilient to multiple > synced players - I think due to the shared USB/LAN bus) than a Pi3 and > although a Pi4 is theoretically quicker than the HP, the SSD which is > where LMS database resides makes it fly. > I had to hack the VB config files a bit to get the CD ripping direct to > the QNAP and to get the correct file permissions so I can edit via > Mp3tag through Windows but once done it works perfectly. > The SSD was the biggest single improvement I have come across as far as > LMS is concerned. Yes, I always wanted to use an SSD for the database. Funny thing is, I have an SSD from a now-defunct notebook right here, wondering what to do with it. Thank you for bringing these two formerly separate trains of thoughts together! :D QLMS 7.9.2@2.04 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
dolodobendan wrote: > :p > > > > A common practice. Some people said that their Pi is faster than their > NAS, which is probably true for older NAS's. In my case, the Pi3b+ (my > local owncloud server) simply doesn't have enough memory. The Pi4 does, > but I don't want to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading. If I was running a Pi (I have) it would be much faster than the QNAP!!! I actually use an old dual core HP Microserver with 8GB RAM and a single SSD but the files on the NAS (a really old 4 disk/raid 5 TS419P) via NFS. The HP running VB2.4 is much faster (and more resilient to multiple synced players - I think due to the shared USB/LAN bus) than a Pi3 and although a Pi4 is theoretically quicker than the HP, the SSD which is where LMS database resides makes it fly. I had to hack the VB config files a bit to get the CD ripping direct to the QNAP and to get the correct file permissions so I can edit via Mp3tag through Windows but once done it works perfectly. The SSD was the biggest single improvement I have come across as far as LMS is concerned. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
d6jg wrote: > > EDIT. I have relaised you may be using QLogitechMediaServer in which > case ignore most of above. :p d6jg wrote: > > I'm afraid I don't use that, my QNAP is too old, but instead I use > another Linux PC with LMS and mount the NAS via NFS. > A common practice. Some people said that their Pi is faster than their NAS, which is probably true for older NAS's. In my case, the Pi3b+ (my local owncloud server) simply doesn't have enough memory. The Pi4 does, but I don't want to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading. QLMS 7.9.2@2.04 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
You are both talking about file ownership which is the problem area but in linux every file has both an owner and a group assigned to it. If you use squeezeboxuser as the owner all is well but you can't use a normal user. This is a NAS and from the look of the path structure a QNAP, yes? Are you running LMS on the QNAP ? If so add squeezeboxuser to the administrators group. If you are running LMS elsewhere e.g. on a Pi have you mounted the drive via NFS or via CIFS - if latter what user did you use ? If its QNAP/CIFS you should definitely use the QNAP "admin" user but it would be better via NFS as no user/pass is required and by default the NFS connection is by root.root. I have a QNAP. The ownership of the Multimedia folder as far as the NAS is concerned is admin.administrators. This translatates to root.root in "normal" linux. The user that writes the files to the NAS (me) is a member of the QNAP administrators group. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
steklo wrote: > Some of the newly added tracks had owner 999 (squeezeboxserver), some > owner 1000 (me) none of them appeared in LMS. All of those tracks that > had been added successfully before had owner 999. If you copied all the files from the same computer and with the same user account to your NAS share, they all should have the same owner and set of permissions. steklo wrote: > It took me 30 seconds after I read this, so you're smarter than me ;-) Maybe I just type faster. steklo wrote: > I was a bit multi-tasking on Sunday afternoon and didn't even think of a > google search... Thanks for the hint that should make things much > easier! Additionally I could try to make WinSCP work on my Mac with the > help of WineBottler. Or just use Cyberduck as it's basically the same. steklo wrote: > > At least things have clarified so far that now I know it was a > permission related problem. Your guide helps to sort things out for the > future, thank you so much! The link to your settings is quite helpful > too! I've got to figure out if these settings or digimasters suggestion > "normal user with 0755 as rights" work better for me. Many thanks to > digimaster as well! If the files you copy from your computer to your NAS share have the permissions 0755 and you are the owner, use that. If they get 0750, try my approach. QLMS 7.9.2@2.04 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
dolodobendan wrote: > Are the files with 999 as the owner treated differently than the ones > with 1000? Anyway, the file owner should not differ. Some of the newly added tracks had owner 999 (squeezeboxserver), some owner 1000 (me) none of them appeared in LMS. All of those tracks that had been added successfully before had owner 999. dolodobendan wrote: > As I never get a long path right, I use auto complete or copy and paste. I copied and pasted that path too, Cyberdock actually connected with that very same path pasted in... dolodobendan wrote: > I use WinSCP, but it took me under ten seconds to google "cyberduck > change permissions". It took me 30 seconds after I read this, so you're smarter than me ;-) I was a bit multi-tasking on Sunday afternoon and didn't even think of a google search... Thanks for the hint that should make things much easier! Additionally I could try to make WinSCP work on my Mac with the help of WineBottler. dolodobendan wrote: > > > > - Copy a music file to the NAS and look what permissions it has and > who the owner is. - Compare permissions and user with files that are found in LMS. - Do a rescan, is the new file found? - If not, what permissions & owner have the files that are found? > Use these permissions and owner for all files. - Make sure newly copied files have the right permissions and owner > from the start to avoid these problems. > > > At least things have clarified so far that now I know it was a permission related problem. Your guide helps to sort things out for the future, thank you so much! The link to your settings is quite helpful too! I've got to figure out if these settings or digimasters suggestion "normal user with 0755 as rights" work better for me. Many thanks to digimaster as well! steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
steklo wrote: > I tried some things this afternoon. > > First I took a look at my music folder via Cyberduck (an SFTP client > available for Mac): > > 27972 > > I realized that for most albums the owner was set to 999, but for some - > all of them among the newly added albums I was missing, but still not > all of them - were set to owner 1000. > > digimaster had writen some days ago: > > "No need to set those file to user squeezeboxserver, but make sure they > are rwxr-xr-x as file rights so LMS can access them !" > > and > > "Regarding you're issue, already wrote did a test. But can not reproduce > it here. The only thing you wrote, setting the music files to > squeezeboxserver as user, is something I don't have. My music collection > is set to a normal user, but with 0755 as rights. > > Strangely enough I read that more user are setting it like you. > Something which i would never suggest to do. > > I for myself once in a while do chmod -R 0755 (music path). To make sure > everything is set correctly." > > Other than digimasters reciommendation permissions in my library were > obvously different: rwxrwx--- (770) > > As I could not find a way to change this with Cybersduck I tried a > terminal ssh session. Unfortunately I was not able to get into my music > folder, the command line > > [cd /share/*/Multimedia/Musik Stefan/iTunes/iTunes Media/Music] or [cd > /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/Multimedia/Musik Stefan/iTunes/iTunes > Media/Music] > > resulted in > > > -sh: cd: /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/Multimedia/Musik: No such file or > directory > > I couldn't figure out what was wrong; the path is definitively correct. > If anyone could teach me what was wrong? > > So I went to the control panel of my NAS and once again looked into the > permissions of the Multimedia folder. I found oplocks was active for it > and I turned that off. And as digimaster suggested I set the owner of > Multimedia folder to a normal user , myself in that case, with read & > write permissions, squeezeboxserver still only read permissions. > > After that I did a rescan which resulted in a completely empty LMS > library! > > Then I went back to QNAP control panel and only changed the owner of the > Multimedia folder from myself to squeezeboxserver. Rescan took more than > 45 minutes and now everything is back in its place! > > A look through Cyberdock shows that now the owner is 999 for everythging > and the permissions are still set to rwxrwx--- (770) > > I don't know exactly what the reason is for this behaviour, but now it > works. Maybe some or all files that I copy from my Mac onto he NAS come > with owner 1000 and so they can't be scanned by LMS? Can it be that > upgrading from MacOSX 10.9 Mavericks to 10.11 El Capitan can cause this? > I never had this problem earlier.Oké you got it work, but the user is > squeezeboxserver. As I earlier wrote set it to a normal user with 0755 as rights. The last is important, through owner can read, write, execute. User part of the group and any other can read and execute but no write or deleted. My music collection is set this way. And no problem in LMS. Send from my mobile Phone * maintainer of QLogitechMediaServer, QOptware-NG and QAutoSub. Qnap TS-453a, with LogitechMediaSever 7.9.2 Nightly ( with spotty, youtube, Radio Paradise a.m. ) Several raspberry with hifiberry amp+ and picoreplayer. Love logitechmediaserver for it flexibel way, to play music from different sources.* digimaster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66919 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
steklo wrote: > I tried some things this afternoon. > > First I took a look at my music folder via Cyberduck (an SFTP client > available for Mac): > > I realized that for most albums the owner was set to 999, but for some - > all of them among the newly added albums I was missing, but still not > all of them - were set to owner 1000. Are the files with 999 as the owner treated differently than the ones with 1000? Anyway, the file owner should not differ. steklo wrote: > Other than digimasters reciommendation permissions in my library were > obvously different: rwxrwx--- (770) According to the screenshot they still are. However, it works with 770, too. I use 770, because if I copy a file with Windows to the NAS, it gets 770 and not 775. Thus, new files were not found, until I changed the settings. I have posted somewhere here the settings I use to make it work with 770. Maybe that would help. As soon as I find the post, I'll add the link here. No link yet. steklo wrote: > As I could not find a way to change this with Cybersduck I tried a > terminal ssh session. Unfortunately I was not able to get into my music > folder, the command line > > [cd /share/*/Multimedia/Musik Stefan/iTunes/iTunes Media/Music] or [cd > /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/Multimedia/Musik Stefan/iTunes/iTunes > Media/Music] > > resulted in > > > -sh: cd: /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/Multimedia/Musik: No such file or > directory > > I couldn't figure out what was wrong; the path is definitively correct. > If anyone could teach me what was wrong? As I never get a long path right, I use auto complete or copy and paste. I use WinSCP, but it took me under ten seconds to google "cyberduck change permissions". steklo wrote: > So I went to the control panel of my NAS and once again looked into the > permissions of the Multimedia folder. I found oplocks was active for it > and I turned that off. And as digimaster suggested I set the owner of > Multimedia folder to a normal user , myself in that case, with read & > write permissions, squeezeboxserver still only read permissions. > > After that I did a rescan which resulted in a completely empty LMS > library! > > Then I went back to QNAP control panel and only changed the owner of the > Multimedia folder from myself to squeezeboxserver. Rescan took more than > 45 minutes and now everything is back in its place! > > A look through Cyberdock shows that now the owner is 999 for everythging > and the permissions are still set to rwxrwx--- (770) > > I don't know exactly what the reason is for this behaviour, but now it > works. Maybe some or all files that I copy from my Mac onto he NAS come > with owner 1000 and so they can't be scanned by LMS? Can it be that > upgrading from MacOSX 10.9 Mavericks to 10.11 El Capitan can cause this? > I never had this problem earlier. - Copy a music file to the NAS and look what permissions it has and who the owner is. - Compare permissions and user with files that are found in LMS. - Do a rescan, is the new file found? - If not, what permissions & owner have the files that are found? Use these permissions and owner for all files. - Make sure newly copied files have the right permissions and owner from the start to avoid these problems. QLMS 7.9.2@2.04 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
I tried some things this afternoon. First I took a look at my music folder via Cyberduck (an SFTP client available for Mac): 27972 I realized that for most albums the owner was set to 999, but for some - all of them among the newly added albums I was missing, but still not all of them - were set to owner 1000. digimaster had writen some days ago: "No need to set those file to user squeezeboxserver, but make sure they are rwxr-xr-x as file rights so LMS can access them !" and "Regarding you're issue, already wrote did a test. But can not reproduce it here. The only thing you wrote, setting the music files to squeezeboxserver as user, is something I don't have. My music collection is set to a normal user, but with 0755 as rights. Strangely enough I read that more user are setting it like you. Something which i would never suggest to do. I for myself once in a while do chmod -R 0755 (music path). To make sure everything is set correctly." Other than digimasters reciommendation permissions in my library were obvously different: rwxrwx--- (770) As I could not find a way to change this with Cybersduck I tried a terminal ssh session. Unfortunately I was not able to get into my music folder, the command line [cd /share/*/Multimedia/Musik Stefan/iTunes/iTunes Media/Music] or [cd /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/Multimedia/Musik Stefan/iTunes/iTunes Media/Music] resulted in http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27972| +---+ steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
steklo wrote: > Well, seems I was a bit too optimistically: > > Yesterday I added a number of new albums to my library and performed the > usual "delete-and-rescan" procedure. The result is that LMS shows all > albums that had been there before but none of the newly added. I > re-checked if the files are really present within the music folder, also > re-checked permissions, and just to be on the safe side had the NAS > assign the present permissions to all subfolders and files within the > Multimedia folder (were the music folder is situated too). Rescanning > again did not change anything: Still all new albums are not present in > LMS. > > I remember that after I had reinstalled LMS I had some problems to get > it scanning the library. If I get it right it worked after I changed > permissions for squeezeserver from "read & write" to "read only" > concerning Multimedia folder (and subfolders). I could not find any > logic in this but didn't try to get to the bottom as it apparently > worked that way. Obviously it doesn't quite, even though I hadn't > changed anything in between. Let me try to sum up what you just described. - After reinstalling, you had problems scanning the library. - It worked after you changed permissions for all folders and subfolders. - Now you copied new stuff in it and it is not found. Do these new files by any chance have different permissions than the old ones? steklo wrote: > The strange thing is, that the "delete-and-rescan" procedure did not > wipe the library completely. If it is a problem of permissions or  as > Michael has assumed before  a plug-in blocking LMS to get access to > the files, it means that this time all "old" files can be accessed by > LMS whereas the "new" ones cannot. > > Can anyone make some sense out of that? > > Best regards > Stefan If you want to wipe the library, you have to wipe the cache folder (minus "InstalledPlugins"), but be aware that this could bring unforeseen consequences if you use plugins (Spotty, for example) that I don't. QLMS 7.9.2@2.04 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
After that I switched off all plugins and after restarting LMS I tried again to rescan but without success: All new added music is still not present in LMS. Here are the server and scanner log files I downloaded afterwards: 2795127952 Is there anything related to the phenomenon that I am facing? +---+ |Filename: server 2.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27952| +---+ steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Following the advices in the last post of digimaster I did the following: [~] # cd /share/*/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/ http://192.168.178.65:9001 [1] squeezeboxserver services found on : [24118] [Network check in chroot] : qnapclub.eu 37.187.75.121 37.187.75.121 There is a backupfile found ! All Files OKE QLogitechMediaServer [2.04.00] This output can also be found in /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/QLogitechMediaServer.log.config ! [/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer] # ./QLogitechMediaServer.sh stop Stopping LogitechMediaServer [24118] in the Background. [/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer] # ./QLogitechMediaServer.sh clean use ./QLogitechMediaServer.sh start, stop, status, restart, backup, restore or failsafe ( use this when trouble with loading plugins ) [/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer] # ./QLogitechMediaServer.sh start /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/.tmp/logitechme 100%[===>] 199.53M 11.0MB/s in 19s Upgrading LogitechMediaServer to 7.9.2-1565967976, please wait ! LogitechMediaServer is started in the Background on [1713] ! Please wait a few minutes, before you try to access the webgui through http://192.168.178.65:9001 ! steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Well, seems I was a bit too optimistically: Yesterday I added a number of new albums to my library and performed the usual "delete-and-rescan" procedure. The result is that LMS shows all albums that had been there before but none of the newly added. I re-checked if the files are really present within the music folder, also re-checked permissions, and just to be on the safe side had the NAS assign the present permissions to all subfolders and files within the Multimedia folder (were the music folder is situated too). Rescanning again did not change anything: Still all new albums are not present in LMS. I remember that after I had reinstalled LMS I had some problems to get it scanning the library. If I get it right it worked after I changed permissions for squeezeserver from "read & write" to "read only" concerning Multimedia folder (and subfolders). I could not find any logic in this but didn't try to get to the bottom as it apparently worked that way. Obviously it doesn't quite, even though I hadn't changed anything in between. The strange thing is, that the "delete-and-rescan" procedure did not wipe the library completely. If it is a problem of permissions or as Michael has assumed before a plug-in blocking LMS to get access to the files, it means that this time all "old" files can be accessed by LMS whereas the "new" ones cannot. Can anyone make some sense out of that? Best regards Stefan steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Great, many thanks to both of you! There seem to be even more beneath Filezilla that can do it: Cyberduck, Transmit, Fugu, muCommander... I'll check this evening and report back! steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Filezilla will do itbut a bit more fiddly to set up https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?platform=osx VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Ok I see, WinSCP actually looks much more common for me than executing command lines in terminal. Unfortunately I'm on a Mac and can't use WinSCP. Is there anything comparable for Mac users? steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Screenshot is WinSCP displaying contents of my cache folder. Clearing the .db files is as simple as right clicking and selecting delete. Note in the top of the window is the path to the files. You can find this from Settings / Information 27779 +---+ |Filename: 2019-07-26 10_38_47-cache - Double 6_Vortexbox SSD - WinSCP.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27779| +---+ VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
If I get it right I'd first have to go to the cache directory (which as you told me can be found in LMS settings/information) using »cd« command including the string linking to the cache folder. Then I should be in and could execute »rm *.db« – correct? That's correct. But as d6jg pointed out WinSCP might be easier to handle. -- -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
steklo wrote: > Hello, thanks for guiding me. My problem is that I'm not in command of > the command line syntax. I have done some things via ssh already but > only with the help of someone else telling me what to type into the > terminal. > > Thats why I'm suggesting WinSCP - there is no command line unless you want it but there is complete access to the file system in a File Explorer type manner. It will be much easier than using File Manager in QNAP web interface. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
d6jg wrote: > Enable SSH on the Qnap and use putty (or winscp) to navigate the file > structure to delete .db files > Im guessing winscp would be better in your case > Use admin not root user Hello, thanks for guiding me. My problem is that I'm not in command of the command line syntax. I have done some things via ssh already but only with the help of someone else telling me what to type into the terminal. mherger wrote: > I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the QNAP system. Hi Michael, basically this is a slightly modified version of Linux, so generally Linux command lines should apply. I found this Linux introduction in the german QNAP forum and there are the basic command lines explained: https://forum.qnapclub.de/blog/entry/110-linux-einf%C3%BChrung-f%C3%BCr-anf%C3%A4nger/ If I get it right I'd first have to go to the cache directory (which as you told me can be found in LMS settings/information) using »cd« command including the string linking to the cache folder. Then I should be in and could execute »rm *.db« correct? Best regards Stefan steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Enable SSH on the Qnap and use putty (or winscp) to navigate the file structure to delete .db files Im guessing winscp would be better in your case Use admin not root user VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Would it be allowed to pose that specific question concerning the right command line in the ongoing "QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !" thread? Sure, give it a try. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Hello Michael, ok, the cache folder location in settings/information menu is listed beneath what in the german version is named as "Zwischenspeicher-Ordner", right? So that was really easy. I was hoping digimaster might help (I asked him) as he naturally knows best about QNAP and LMS. But I guess he is too busy with the latest upgrade of QLogitechMediaServer. Would it be allowed to pose that specific question concerning the right command line in the ongoing "QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !" thread? The guys there do report the outcome of several command lines regularly so I would hope that someone there might help me how to do it on a QNAP NAS. But of course I do not want to double post and flood several threads of this forum with a single question, so this is a question for the moderator... Best Stefan steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
My first problem actually is to find the location of the LMS cache folder. Any idea where I would find it on a QNAP NAS? Unfortunately See Settings/Information. So probably we need to connect via ssh and execute a command line to do that. But to do so 1.) the location of the cache folder must be clear and 2.) I'd need the assistance of someone who is able to express the command lines needed – do you think you support me? I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the QNAP system. Out of these I would suspect Multi Library and Music and Artist Yep, Multi Library would be my suspect #1, too. Not MAI. Information might possibly access the database file.What do you think? Would it make sense to restart LMS with all third party plugins disabled? If wiping the files won't help, then yes, that might be an option. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Hi Michael, thanks for your thoughts! My first problem actually is to find the location of the LMS cache folder. Any idea where I would find it on a QNAP NAS? Unfortunately QNAP's file station, which is the app to manage the files on the NAS, keeps all apps and app related data (as well as system and system related data) invisible and thus nothing in there is manageable via file station (as far as I know) even if being logged in as administrator. So probably we need to connect via ssh and execute a command line to do that. But to do so 1.) the location of the cache folder must be clear and 2.) I'd need the assistance of someone who is able to express the command lines needed do you think you support me? As for third party plugins yes I have some loaded. As far as I remember these are: AirPlay Bridge Bands Campout Multi Library Music and Artist Information Radio Paradise Song Info (not sure) Song Lyrics (not sure) Spotify for Squeezebox. Still Spotty Out of these I would suspect Multi Library and Music and Artist Information might possibly access the database file.What do you think? Would it make sense to restart LMS with all third party plugins disabled? Best Stefan steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
[19-07-23 20:30:48.2227] Slim::Utils::DbCache::__ANON__ (301) Error: DBD::SQLite::st execute failed: database is locked that's certainly no good sign. I'd suggest you shut down LMS, then delete all the *.db files from its cache folder and restart. This should trigger an all new scan with a fresh file. Leave it alone until the scan has finished. Are you running any 3rd party plugin which might be accessing the database file? -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Well I managed to download the server log file. Here is what it says for yesterday: (see attachement below, can't insert the complete text here because it's too long) While being completely ignorant of these lines, I'd say this one caught my attention: [19-07-23 20:30:48.2227] Slim::Utils::DbCache::__ANON__ (301) Error: DBD::SQLite::st execute failed: database is locked Could it be that somehow permissions for the database have been changed and LMS can't get access to it anymore? I wouldn't know why or how this could have happened though... And also I have no idea how to locate to that database in order to rearrange the permissions. Any thoughts? Best Stefan 27758 +---+ |Filename: server.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27758| +---+ steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Possibly this is an important detail, that just re-entered my mind: After I started the rescan I switched through the tabs of the LMS settings menu. It then suddenly froze and no matter which tab I clicked, the sreen remained the same. Thus I went to QNAP app center, stopped QLogitechMediaServer and restarted it again. Can it be that LMS crashed during rescan. Or maybe it didn't crash and stopping QLMS during rescan procedure was not such a good idea? Please let me know what I can do to get it running again... steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS library empty after rescan
Hello, I have QLogitechMediaServer 2.04.00 with LMS 7.9.2 running on a QNAP NAS for quite some time now. It ran very stable through all that time. >From time to time I add new albums or change some metadata and do a rescan. After the latest rescan (actually "clear library and rescan everything") my LMS library is completely empty. I tried several rescans, I restartet both LMS and NAS and even I checked the file path (which remained untouched). I also checked the permissions and changed from "read only" to "read and write" for the user "squeezeboxserver" on the NAS (even though "write" doesn't seem to make sense to me, does it?). Nothing helped, LMS library still shows not a single music file. Any idea what might be wrong? Best regards Stefan steklo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110786 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
