Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-14 Thread slartibartfast
waldo wrote: > imho the problem with max2play not booting is most probably caused by > incompatibility with kernel and other packages that are upgraded when > using "apt full-upgrade". I would expect the problem to remain even > after upgrading the firmware booting with some other image.If I

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-14 Thread waldo
slartibartfast wrote: > I wonder if a max2play install which doesn't boot after full upgrade > would work after reinstalling the eeprom. Although I have no idea of > that can be done on a non booting Pi. > imho the problem with max2play not booting is most probably caused by incompatibility

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-14 Thread waldo
slartibartfast wrote: > I thought the temperature improvements were tied to kernel changes. > Isn't the firmware only the bootloader? In my brief research I found this to be a common belief. I think that the average person will have difficulty to understand the difference between firmware and

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-14 Thread waldo
Paul Webster wrote: > Just take the colon off the end Thanks for the hint, Paul. original post edited and URL should work now. waldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19888 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread slartibartfast
Paul Webster wrote: > Just in case this is the cause of the confusion ... Raspberry Pi 4 is > different to all of the prior Raspberry Pi models in this respect > https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/booteeprom.mdI > wonder if a max2play install which doesn't boot

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread Paul Webster
Just in case this is the cause of the confusion ... Raspberry Pi 4 is different to all of the prior Raspberry Pi models in this respect https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/booteeprom.md Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of plugins for radio france (fip

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread slartibartfast
Paul Webster wrote: > From that articleI know. Now I am confused. Maybe it is just firmware. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread Paul Webster
slartibartfast wrote: > I thought the temperature improvements were tied to kernel changes. > Isn't the firmware only the bootloader? > >From that article > this new firmware reduces the power consumption and board temperatures > by enabling the power-saving functionality in the VL805 USB 3.0

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread slartibartfast
waldo wrote: > Hi, > most imprtant thing to do is update firmware when your Raspi arrives. > Mine was delivered 1 month ago and came with old firmware. Temperature > whilst idle was 74ºC (at 80ºC CPU starts throttling down). > After updating firmware temperature dropped to 62-64ºC in idle state.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread Cut-Throat
Paul Webster wrote: > Just take the colon off the end Got it ! - Thanks! BTW - Is there anyway to tell what firmware Version of your Raspberry is with PiCorePlayer? Cut-Throat's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread Paul Webster
Cut-Throat wrote: > Good info! --- BTW - Your Link does not work. Just take the colon off the end Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of plugins for radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread Cut-Throat
waldo wrote: > Hi, > most imprtant thing to do is update firmware when your Raspi arrives. > Mine was delivered 1 month ago and came with old firmware. Temperature > whilst idle was 74ºC (at 80ºC CPU starts throttling down). > After updating firmware temperature dropped to 62-64ºC in idle state.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread waldo
Hi, most imprtant thing to do is update firmware when your Raspi arrives. Mine was delivered 1 month ago and came with old firmware. Temperature whilst idle was 74ºC (at 80ºC CPU starts throttling down). After updating firmware temperature dropped to 62-64ºC in idle state. Be careful not to

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread d6jg
Im running a Pi4B / 4Gb as a test server which lives in this rather nice case - https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07ZVK86HC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8=1 I just added some feet VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 ->

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-13 Thread tw99
I'm running LMS and some other server applications on a PI4 in a standard case, just with a simple heatsink on the processor. pi@helix:~ $ vcgencmd measure_temp temp=58.0'C So on that basis I don't think there's an issue. Remember that the firmware has had a lot of changes in the last year to

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-12 Thread kidstypike
cpd73 wrote: > I run LMS on a Pi4 4GB 24/7, no fan, FLIRC case, and no heat issues > whatsoever. +1 Absolutely no need for a fan with the FLIRC case. *Server - LMS 8.0.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Flirc case/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-12 Thread cpd73
Cut-Throat wrote: > What are the Current thoughts on Running LMS on a Raspberry Pi 4 ? > > 1.) Heat Issue - Fan or No Fan ? > 2.) 4 GB of Ram useful ? > 3.) Cases ? > > Any Problems currently ? I run LMS on a Pi4 4GB 24/7, no fan, FLIRC case, and no heat issues whatsoever. I did have the

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2020-05-12 Thread Cut-Throat
What are the Current thoughts on Running LMS on a Raspberry Pi 4 ? 1.) Heat Issue - Fan or No Fan ? 2.) 4 GB of Ram useful ? 3.) Cases ? Any Problems currently ? Cut-Throat's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-28 Thread slartibartfast
cpd73 wrote: > If you get this working a simple step-by-step guide would be greatly > appreciated. Never used MusicIP or Sugarcube, and I'm very interested in > seeing what these can provide and having them (do I need both?) running > on my Pi4. I installed MusicIP on my Pi4 using the

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-28 Thread slartibartfast
cpd73 wrote: > If you get this working a simple step-by-step guide would be greatly > appreciated. Never used MusicIP or Sugarcube, and I'm very interested in > seeing what these can provide and having them (do I need both?) running > on my Pi4.I am hoping to use this thread to install MusicIP

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-28 Thread cpd73
slartibartfast wrote: > All working now. Just need to install MusicIP. [emoji3] If you get this working a simple step-by-step guide would be greatly appreciated. Never used MusicIP or Sugarcube, and I'm very interested in seeing what these can provide and having them (do I need both?) running

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-27 Thread slartibartfast
Man in a van wrote: > How did I forget the Wiki ?? :o:o:o > > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/DebianPackageAll working now. Just need > to install MusicIP. [emoji3] Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-27 Thread Man in a van
slartibartfast wrote: > Is there a step by step guide to install LMS on Raspbian Desktop on a Pi > 4? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk How did I forget the Wiki ?? :o:o:o http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/DebianPackage

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-27 Thread Yatsushiro
>From memory: Code: wget http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.9/sc/72652dba41c33115881035c585bbf59e4a1b075a/logitechmediaserver_7.9.2~1576909043_arm.deb Code: sudo dpkg -i

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-27 Thread Man in a van
slartibartfast wrote: > Is there a step by step guide to install LMS on Raspbian Desktop on a Pi > 4? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Not that I know of. I just use my own cobbled together method :) I have a small music library, it all fits on a 64gb card. I use the 'Desktop

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-27 Thread slartibartfast
Man in a van wrote: > Plenty :) > > I use the 4gb but utilise the Raspbian Desktop OS and run a seperate > Spotify-Connect client, Samba (I have my music library on the same SD > card) and some other stuff. > > ronnieIs there a step by step guide to install LMS on Raspbian Desktop on a Pi 4?

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-17 Thread slartibartfast
castalla wrote: > > > Are Pi's ever on special offer anywhere? I have never seen them on offer. They certainly weren't on Black Friday. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-17 Thread castalla
Man in a van wrote: > Plenty :) > > I use the 4gb but utilise the Raspbian Desktop OS and run a seperate > Spotify-Connect client, Samba (I have my music library on the same SD > card) and some other stuff. > > ronnie Thanks. I have everything on a pi zero which works fine, but ran into a

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-17 Thread Man in a van
castalla wrote: > LMS only - is 2gb Pi4 sufficient? 4gb is 20 euro more expensive. Plenty :) I use the 4gb but utilise the Raspbian Desktop OS and run a seperate Spotify-Connect client, Samba (I have my music library on the same SD card) and some other stuff. ronnie

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-12-16 Thread castalla
LMS only - is 2gb Pi4 sufficient? 4gb is 20 euro more expensive. LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Chromecast Audio, Home Mini & Nest Hub, Amazon

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-09-09 Thread bencat
I use Max2play software for my LMS on Raspberry Pi and have used this for about five years upgrading the Pi as a new quicker version came out. I have been using the Pi 4 4GB since it came out and the Max2play beta download was available. I only use this Pi as a pure LMS server with a 2 TB USB HD

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-09-08 Thread NE5
HelloI've just fitted a pimoroni shim and case to my pi4. As you can't feel the device through the case now, how much cooler does it get, how do I know, and most importantly of all does anybody switch it off when they go out for a few hours or overnight, or can you just leave it on all the

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-09-02 Thread philippe_44
DomieMic65 wrote: > If the board is running at 60+ °C 24/7 is it safe ? > Or do you shut down your LMS server pi4 when not at home, or away for a > few days? > Thnx! 60 is not really a problem for components these days LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-09-02 Thread DomieMic65
If the board is running at 60+ °C 24/7 is it safe ? Or do you shut down your LMS server pi4 when not at home, or away for a few days? Thnx! Main system: Synology DS115j/RPi3b(LMS)/RPi3B+[LnrPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LnrPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-23 Thread philippe_44
sfraser wrote: > Ok , 5 players sync'd on the pi4 all working perfectly! One of the nice thing about LMS sync algorythm is that although it is not ms-accurate (which I think is useless anyway), it is very light in term of load for the server LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet,

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-22 Thread sfraser
Ok , 5 players sync'd on the pi4 all working perfectly! 2 CHAN. SYSTEM SB3->Benchmark DAC-1-> Bryston(BP-25,3B)->PMC TB2 HOME THEATER SYSTEM SB2-> Bryston(SP1,4B,4B,2B,2B)-> PSB Stratus Goldi BASEMENT SYSTEM Duet-> Parasound Preamp (carver M1.0t) ->Klipsch La Scala's BEDROOM SYSTEM SB2-> Sony

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-21 Thread sfraser
I have been running a Pi4 w/4G of RAM in the new Flirc case as a Max2play LMS for approx. 24 hrs. So far so good, initial music scan (from remote mounted file system on co-located NAS) took about 82 minutes for 90K songs. On the Pi3 the scan I believe was around 4 hours. Temperature has

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-17 Thread acanning
Hi Guys Sorry for the confusion I may have caused with my earlier post. Just to be clear, the Geekworm case I purchased was designed for the Pi4 and fits like a glove with all ports being accessable. It also seems to significantly reduce the idle temperature of my Pi4. They also make a version

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-17 Thread paul-
Just click on one of the other pictures, theyare different products, pi4 with without fans, etc piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate'

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-17 Thread cfuttrup
acanning wrote: > I settled on this cheapo case. > > 27939 > > Which is availible 'here' >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-17 Thread kidstypike
Results of scan times below. Top picture is with music files on a USB SSD drive. Bottom picture, exactly the same library stored on a WDmycloud NAS, same RPi running piCorePlayer 6.0.0. 27940 27941 +---+ |Filename: scanNAS.jpg

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-17 Thread acanning
Morning All I’ve just discovered this thread so I thought I’d chime in with my Pi4/LMS experience. I have been running LMS (Max2Play) on a Pi3 for a about 18 months and it’s worked very well. The music is stored on a Nas and I regularly use the Spotty and iPlayer plugins. I’d say that there were

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-16 Thread paul-
Depends on what your USB device is If it's a USB3 SSD, then perhaps. piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate'

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-16 Thread DomieMic65
kidstypike wrote: > The microSD card is the default location for the LMS cache. But you can > move it to an attached USB drive if you wish. > > pCP > LMS page: > > 27929 Thanks a lot!! So if we move the data from sd card to usb the scanning might be faster? Main system: Synology

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-16 Thread kidstypike
DomieMic65 wrote: > From what menu in settings we set the dbase to be written in microSD? > Thnx! The microSD card is the default location for the LMS cache. But you can move it to an attached USB drive if you wish. pCP > LMS page: 27929

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-16 Thread DomieMic65
>From what menu in settings we set the dbase to be written in microSD? Thnx! Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-15 Thread d6jg
sfraser wrote: > Been running LMS on a PI3 for quite sometime. Scans are slow as music > library is not local to the Pi but located on a NAS , and Pi 3 network > interface speed is limited. What I thought was slow search times etc. > actually turned out to be my Squeeze Ctrl remote control

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-15 Thread sfraser
gustavm wrote: > Hi > > I have been running LMS on a Pi2 for a number of years. Has worked > reliably but quite slow to update after adding new FLAC files, and > sometimes not quite as responsive as I'd like. I had been thinking of > changing to a Pi3, but now that the Pi4 is available was

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-15 Thread sfraser
paul- wrote: > I run a small 5v fan at 3.3 volts. plenty of cooling https://flirc.tv/more/raspberry-pi-4-case The lads at flirc appear to use the entire Aluminium case top as a heast sink. I have one on order I will let you know how it goes. 2 CHAN. SYSTEM SB3->Benchmark DAC-1->

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-09 Thread Jeff07971
gustavm wrote: > No I use a separate device in another room for streaming to an external > DAC, so only looking to run LMS on this device. In view of the heat > dissipation, maybe I should consider a Pi3 instead. I think this should > give a substantial improvement over a Pi2? The latest Pi3

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-09 Thread DomieMic65
I am interested too on LMS on rpi4 and the potential thermal issues... Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-08 Thread paul-
I run a small 5v fan at 3.3 volts. plenty of cooling piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate'

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-08 Thread kidstypike
edwin2006 wrote: > And the noise level? I didn't particularly want a case with a fan, but this is just a stop gap until something more to my liking comes along. I'd retired the Pi4 to my spares drawer, but it seemed a pity to waste it, hence the purchase. Noise-wise I'd say it's whisper quiet,

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-08 Thread edwin2006
And the noise level? *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-08 Thread kidstypike
gustavm wrote: > No I use a separate device in another room for streaming to an external > DAC, so only looking to run LMS on this device. In view of the heat > dissipation, maybe I should consider a Pi3 instead. I think this should > give a substantial improvement over a Pi2? I bought one of

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-08 Thread gustavm
Jeff07971 wrote: > Do you run picoreplayer at the moment ? > > There are reports on here that say pcp 6.0.1 runs LMS well on Pi4 and is > fast > > Heat has been discussed as well due to the Pi4's CPU > > Jeff No I use a separate device in another room for streaming to an external DAC, so

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-08 Thread Man in a van
gustavm wrote: > Hi > > Should it just work fine on that with most recent LMS version, or are > there any differences I need to take note of? > > ... rpi4 user here. The only drawback at the moment is the heat. Static pi runs at 60C or so and this increases with work load. A naked pi

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-08 Thread Jeff07971
gustavm wrote: > Hi > > I have been running LMS on a Pi2 for a number of years. Has worked > reliably but quite slow to update after adding new FLAC files, and > sometimes not quite as responsive as I'd like. I had been thinking of > changing to a Pi3, but now that the Pi4 is available was

[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4

2019-08-08 Thread gustavm
Hi I have been running LMS on a Pi2 for a number of years. Has worked reliably but quite slow to update after adding new FLAC files, and sometimes not quite as responsive as I'd like. I had been thinking of changing to a Pi3, but now that the Pi4 is available was wondering about that. Should