Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
waldo wrote: > imho the problem with max2play not booting is most probably caused by > incompatibility with kernel and other packages that are upgraded when > using "apt full-upgrade". I would expect the problem to remain even > after upgrading the firmware booting with some other image.If I get a spare > card I might try your update method on a Max2Play image although I seem to remember an issue with HDidle as well. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
slartibartfast wrote: > I wonder if a max2play install which doesn't boot after full upgrade > would work after reinstalling the eeprom. Although I have no idea of > that can be done on a non booting Pi. > imho the problem with max2play not booting is most probably caused by incompatibility with kernel and other packages that are upgraded when using "apt full-upgrade". I would expect the problem to remain even after upgrading the firmware booting with some other image. waldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
slartibartfast wrote: > I thought the temperature improvements were tied to kernel changes. > Isn't the firmware only the bootloader? In my brief research I found this to be a common belief. I think that the average person will have difficulty to understand the difference between firmware and OS Kernel. Raspberry foundation releases firmware updates to fix the temp problem. >From my search I found comments about "apt full-upgrade" updating both the linux Kernel and the firmware (apart from other packages). Maybe this is source to missunderstandings too. waldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Paul Webster wrote: > Just take the colon off the end Thanks for the hint, Paul. original post edited and URL should work now. waldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Paul Webster wrote: > Just in case this is the cause of the confusion ... Raspberry Pi 4 is > different to all of the prior Raspberry Pi models in this respect > https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/booteeprom.mdI > wonder if a max2play install which doesn't boot after full upgrade would work after reinstalling the eeprom. Although I have no idea of that can be done on a non booting Pi. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Just in case this is the cause of the confusion ... Raspberry Pi 4 is different to all of the prior Raspberry Pi models in this respect https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/booteeprom.md Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of plugins for radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Paul Webster wrote: > From that articleI know. Now I am confused. Maybe it is just firmware. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
slartibartfast wrote: > I thought the temperature improvements were tied to kernel changes. > Isn't the firmware only the bootloader? > >From that article > this new firmware reduces the power consumption and board temperatures > by enabling the power-saving functionality in the VL805 USB 3.0 > controller Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of plugins for radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
waldo wrote: > Hi, > most imprtant thing to do is update firmware when your Raspi arrives. > Mine was delivered 1 month ago and came with old firmware. Temperature > whilst idle was 74ºC (at 80ºC CPU starts throttling down). > After updating firmware temperature dropped to 62-64ºC in idle state. > Be careful not to confuse kernel update with firmware update, I've seen > many posters in forums updating the Kernel and complaining about > problems afterwards when only firmware update is needed for this. > This is what I did in my Pi 4 with Max2Play 2.52: > I followed the instructions from > http://www.geeks3d.com/20191101/raspberry-pi-4-new-firmware-reduces-power-consumption-and-boards-temperatures/: > $ sudo apt update > $ sudo apt upgrade > $ sudo apt install rpi-eeprom > Now, run the following command to check the status of the bootloader + > VL805 code: > $ sudo rpi-eeprom-update > And finally reboot > > Dont run "apt dist-upgrade" or "apt full-upgrade" since they will > upgrade important components like the kernel and may cause your Pi not > to work depending on the software installed.I thought the temperature > improvements were tied to kernel changes. Isn't the firmware only the bootloader? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Paul Webster wrote: > Just take the colon off the end Got it ! - Thanks! BTW - Is there anyway to tell what firmware Version of your Raspberry is with PiCorePlayer? Cut-Throat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43167 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Cut-Throat wrote: > Good info! --- BTW - Your Link does not work. Just take the colon off the end Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of plugins for radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
waldo wrote: > Hi, > most imprtant thing to do is update firmware when your Raspi arrives. > Mine was delivered 1 month ago and came with old firmware. Temperature > whilst idle was 74ºC (at 80ºC CPU starts throttling down). > After updating firmware temperature dropped to 62-64ºC in idle state. > Be careful not to confuse kernel update with firmware update, I've seen > many posters in forums updating the Kernel and complaining about > problems afterwards when only firmware update is needed for this. > This is what I did in my Pi 4 with Max2Play 2.52: > I followed the instructions from > http://www.geeks3d.com/20191101/raspberry-pi-4-new-firmware-reduces-power-consumption-and-boards-temperatures/: > $ sudo apt update > $ sudo apt upgrade > $ sudo apt install rpi-eeprom > Now, run the following command to check the status of the bootloader + > VL805 code: > $ sudo rpi-eeprom-update > And finally reboot > > Dont run "apt dist-upgrade" or "apt full-upgrade" since they will > upgrade important components like the kernel and may cause your Pi not > to work depending on the software installed. Good info! --- BTW - Your Link does not work. Cut-Throat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43167 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Hi, most imprtant thing to do is update firmware when your Raspi arrives. Mine was delivered 1 month ago and came with old firmware. Temperature whilst idle was 74ºC (at 80ºC CPU starts throttling down). After updating firmware temperature dropped to 62-64ºC in idle state. Be careful not to confuse kernel update with firmware update, I've seen many posters in forums updating the Kernel and complaining about problems afterwards when only firmware update is needed for this. This is what I did in my Pi 4 with Max2Play 2.52: I followed the instructions from http://www.geeks3d.com/20191101/raspberry-pi-4-new-firmware-reduces-power-consumption-and-boards-temperatures/: $ sudo apt update $ sudo apt upgrade $ sudo apt install rpi-eeprom Now, run the following command to check the status of the bootloader + VL805 code: $ sudo rpi-eeprom-update And finally reboot Dont run "apt dist-upgrade" or "apt full-upgrade" since they will upgrade important components like the kernel and may cause your Pi not to work depending on the software installed. waldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Im running a Pi4B / 4Gb as a test server which lives in this rather nice case - https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07ZVK86HC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8=1 I just added some feet VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
I'm running LMS and some other server applications on a PI4 in a standard case, just with a simple heatsink on the processor. pi@helix:~ $ vcgencmd measure_temp temp=58.0'C So on that basis I don't think there's an issue. Remember that the firmware has had a lot of changes in the last year to improve temperature control. tw99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51684 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
cpd73 wrote: > I run LMS on a Pi4 4GB 24/7, no fan, FLIRC case, and no heat issues > whatsoever. +1 Absolutely no need for a fan with the FLIRC case. *Server - LMS 8.0.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Flirc case/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Squeezebox Touch > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 7xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Cut-Throat wrote: > What are the Current thoughts on Running LMS on a Raspberry Pi 4 ? > > 1.) Heat Issue - Fan or No Fan ? > 2.) 4 GB of Ram useful ? > 3.) Cases ? > > Any Problems currently ? I run LMS on a Pi4 4GB 24/7, no fan, FLIRC case, and no heat issues whatsoever. I did have the Pimoroni fan-shim for a while, but it gathers a lot of dust - FLIRC case is *much* better (and only £16 from CPC). I use the Pi4 for LMS, Plex, as a print server (CUPS), photo server, file-server, and to regularly backup my laptop. Fantastic device. *Material debug:* 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS will be logged here. cpd73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
What are the Current thoughts on Running LMS on a Raspberry Pi 4 ? 1.) Heat Issue - Fan or No Fan ? 2.) 4 GB of Ram useful ? 3.) Cases ? Any Problems currently ? Cut-Throat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43167 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
cpd73 wrote: > If you get this working a simple step-by-step guide would be greatly > appreciated. Never used MusicIP or Sugarcube, and I'm very interested in > seeing what these can provide and having them (do I need both?) running > on my Pi4. I installed MusicIP on my Pi4 using the instructions posted here https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106958-Success-MusicIP-and-Spicefly-Sugarcube-running-on-Raspberry-Pi=950011=1#post950011 My post at the end of the thread details a couple of changes I had to make. Bear in mind that all your tracks need to be fingerprinted by MusicIP and it is recommended to do this on a PC and not on the Pi. The same version of MusicIP should be installed on the machine used for fingerprinting as on the Pi. It might be worth trying to fingerprint some tracks before doing anything else. slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
cpd73 wrote: > If you get this working a simple step-by-step guide would be greatly > appreciated. Never used MusicIP or Sugarcube, and I'm very interested in > seeing what these can provide and having them (do I need both?) running > on my Pi4.I am hoping to use this thread to install MusicIP https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Eslimdevices%2Ecom%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D106958_tid=106958_fid=813_type=t_source=app I used it for Max2Play based on Raspbian Stretch but have not tried the Buster instructions yet. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
slartibartfast wrote: > All working now. Just need to install MusicIP. [emoji3] If you get this working a simple step-by-step guide would be greatly appreciated. Never used MusicIP or Sugarcube, and I'm very interested in seeing what these can provide and having them (do I need both?) running on my Pi4. cpd73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Man in a van wrote: > How did I forget the Wiki ?? :o:o:o > > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/DebianPackageAll working now. Just need > to install MusicIP. [emoji3] Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
slartibartfast wrote: > Is there a step by step guide to install LMS on Raspbian Desktop on a Pi > 4? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk How did I forget the Wiki ?? :o:o:o http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/DebianPackage Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
>From memory: Code: wget http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.9/sc/72652dba41c33115881035c585bbf59e4a1b075a/logitechmediaserver_7.9.2~1576909043_arm.deb Code: sudo dpkg -i logitechmediaserver_7.9.2~1576909043_arm.deb Code: sudo systemctl enable logitechmediaserver.service Code: sudo systemctl start logitechmediaserver.service Yatsushiro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
slartibartfast wrote: > Is there a step by step guide to install LMS on Raspbian Desktop on a Pi > 4? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Not that I know of. I just use my own cobbled together method :) I have a small music library, it all fits on a 64gb card. I use the 'Desktop version' (https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian_latest) because it has a VNC server which lets me remote in from my Windows 10 Desktop. it also has a SD card copy function which reduces the size of the file. I found a "how to" install Samba on the web and it works pretty well (or it did until a Windows Update stopped the automatic connection. There is a workaround for that but it broke again after another update :rolleyes:. I just connect from the Win10 with a click on the shared drive now sigh). I also run a Spotify-Connect client from a "how to" by pinkdot which I got from the Moode Audio thread on DIY-Audio forum. It's basicallly the same as mhergers but without the podcast thing. I have another version with LMS, Squeezelite, Spotify -Connect and a Jivelite install which is configured to start playing fip when it is fired up. I keep meaning to do a MPD player with UpNP stuff but I think some of that is not so easy. There is a bit of work, but practice makes perfect, sometimes it's just a question of trial and error. Running just LMS should be easy enough (there is a Raspbian Lite for headless operation). What sort of Hard drive are your music libraries on? ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Man in a van wrote: > Plenty :) > > I use the 4gb but utilise the Raspbian Desktop OS and run a seperate > Spotify-Connect client, Samba (I have my music library on the same SD > card) and some other stuff. > > ronnieIs there a step by step guide to install LMS on Raspbian Desktop on a Pi 4? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
castalla wrote: > > > Are Pi's ever on special offer anywhere? I have never seen them on offer. They certainly weren't on Black Friday. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Man in a van wrote: > Plenty :) > > I use the 4gb but utilise the Raspbian Desktop OS and run a seperate > Spotify-Connect client, Samba (I have my music library on the same SD > card) and some other stuff. > > ronnie Thanks. I have everything on a pi zero which works fine, but ran into a problem with the voice Media Server skill - the zero hasn't enough memory for the Play favourites feature. I could just use the trusty Joggler which does work. Are Pi's ever on special offer anywhere? LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Chromecast Audio, Home Mini & Nest Hub, Amazon Echo 2,3 and Show5, Pioneer WX-SMA1, Roberts S1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler, Avantree Priva BT transmitter Brexit = stupidity castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
castalla wrote: > LMS only - is 2gb Pi4 sufficient? 4gb is 20 euro more expensive. Plenty :) I use the 4gb but utilise the Raspbian Desktop OS and run a seperate Spotify-Connect client, Samba (I have my music library on the same SD card) and some other stuff. ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
LMS only - is 2gb Pi4 sufficient? 4gb is 20 euro more expensive. LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Chromecast Audio, Home Mini & Nest Hub, Amazon Echo 2,3 and Show5, Pioneer WX-SMA1, Roberts S1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler, Avantree Priva BT transmitter Brexit = stupidity castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
I use Max2play software for my LMS on Raspberry Pi and have used this for about five years upgrading the Pi as a new quicker version came out. I have been using the Pi 4 4GB since it came out and the Max2play beta download was available. I only use this Pi as a pure LMS server with a 2 TB USB HD attached with my library . I also purchased a Flirc case and this has reduced the operating temperature to around 42/43 deg which i feel is fine. Pi 4 is smoother , faster and in my view more stable that the Pi3 + . A full scan does take around three minutes overall quicker than before but once this has done then upgrades to the LMS version , searches and instructions for next track etc are much quicker and smoother. I feel the Rpi 4 is a huge upgrade and offers response and feel that is in line with many expensive purpose built (and expensive) streamers / network players. I would reccomend an upgrade to Rpi 4 . I am sure there are people out there who can use the added RAM to give other advantages but as this is beyond my talents I will wait and then keep an eye on developments. System - Concordant Exhilirant Valve Pre , SBT Triode EDO,Toolbox 3.0 , Theta Data Basic II Transport , Perpetual Technology P-1a,P-3a,Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core,Krell KSA50 MK 1 . bencat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
HelloI've just fitted a pimoroni shim and case to my pi4. As you can't feel the device through the case now, how much cooler does it get, how do I know, and most importantly of all does anybody switch it off when they go out for a few hours or overnight, or can you just leave it on all the time like a pi 3 ? NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
DomieMic65 wrote: > If the board is running at 60+ °C 24/7 is it safe ? > Or do you shut down your LMS server pi4 when not at home, or away for a > few days? > Thnx! 60 is not really a problem for components these days LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
If the board is running at 60+ °C 24/7 is it safe ? Or do you shut down your LMS server pi4 when not at home, or away for a few days? Thnx! Main system: Synology DS115j/RPi3b(LMS)/RPi3B+[LnrPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LnrPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. Aditional HW: Allo DigiOne, iFi iDefender, iPurifier, iPower DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
sfraser wrote: > Ok , 5 players sync'd on the pi4 all working perfectly! One of the nice thing about LMS sync algorythm is that although it is not ms-accurate (which I think is useless anyway), it is very light in term of load for the server LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Ok , 5 players sync'd on the pi4 all working perfectly! 2 CHAN. SYSTEM SB3->Benchmark DAC-1-> Bryston(BP-25,3B)->PMC TB2 HOME THEATER SYSTEM SB2-> Bryston(SP1,4B,4B,2B,2B)-> PSB Stratus Goldi BASEMENT SYSTEM Duet-> Parasound Preamp (carver M1.0t) ->Klipsch La Scala's BEDROOM SYSTEM SB2-> Sony BoomBox REAR DECK/PATIO Duet-> Yamaha Reciever-> PSB Mini's, OFFICE Squeezebox Boom KITCHEN Squeeze Radio ENSUITE Squeeze Radio sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
I have been running a Pi4 w/4G of RAM in the new Flirc case as a Max2play LMS for approx. 24 hrs. So far so good, initial music scan (from remote mounted file system on co-located NAS) took about 82 minutes for 90K songs. On the Pi3 the scan I believe was around 4 hours. Temperature has been hovering around 40-44C sitting in a communications rack in my basement with an ambient room temp of 20C. Earlier it was in my office upstairs and during the music scan I seen temps in the range of 50C with an ambient room temp likely around 24C. I have a Pi3 in a stock Pi plastic case with a small heat sink on the CPU sitting next to the Pi4 in the com rack and it is also showing temps around 43C. As expected, everything is "snappy" . I will sync 5 or 6 squeezebox's later and see if that creates any type of load on the little guy. Over all very impressed. I will brun it in for a week or two, and if everythting gores well I will repurpose the Pi3 LMS for something else. sfraser 2 CHAN. SYSTEM SB3->Benchmark DAC-1-> Bryston(BP-25,3B)->PMC TB2 HOME THEATER SYSTEM SB2-> Bryston(SP1,4B,4B,2B,2B)-> PSB Stratus Goldi BASEMENT SYSTEM Duet-> Parasound Preamp (carver M1.0t) ->Klipsch La Scala's BEDROOM SYSTEM SB2-> Sony BoomBox REAR DECK/PATIO Duet-> Yamaha Reciever-> PSB Mini's, OFFICE Squeezebox Boom KITCHEN Squeeze Radio ENSUITE Squeeze Radio sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Hi Guys Sorry for the confusion I may have caused with my earlier post. Just to be clear, the Geekworm case I purchased was designed for the Pi4 and fits like a glove with all ports being accessable. It also seems to significantly reduce the idle temperature of my Pi4. They also make a version with a fan which will probably be even more effective if you don't mind the slight noise pollution. Cheers Ashley acanning's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13303 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Just click on one of the other pictures, theyare different products, pi4 with without fans, etc piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=U7JHY5WYHCNRU=GB_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted) if you like the piCorePlayer paul-'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58858 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
acanning wrote: > I settled on this cheapo case. > > 27939 > > Which is availible 'here' > (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32962800319.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.66147dd3MCC4rT_pvid=df0b32f6-50ad-4c05-a5cc-90b1aaf7cfd8_expid=df0b32f6-50ad-4c05-a5cc-90b1aaf7cfd8-1=1fba5b47-262d-483e-89ba-e23a3711d987_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1,searchweb201603_52http://) > Hi Ashley Thanks for pointing out this option. With the RPi4, handling heat radiation is definitely a priority. When I followed your link I found that this is designed for the RPi3 ... can you tell more about it and how it fits the new RPi4? ... and could you maybe add a couple of photos where we can see the exact fit? I'd like to point out (repeat) the one that sfraser mentioned from FLIRC. This one is explicitly designed for the RPi4. https://flirc.tv/more/raspberry-pi-4-case /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Results of scan times below. Top picture is with music files on a USB SSD drive. Bottom picture, exactly the same library stored on a WDmycloud NAS, same RPi running piCorePlayer 6.0.0. 27940 27941 +---+ |Filename: scanNAS.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27941| +---+ *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi4B 4GB/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Morning All Ive just discovered this thread so I thought Id chime in with my Pi4/LMS experience. I have been running LMS (Max2Play) on a Pi3 for a about 18 months and its worked very well. The music is stored on a Nas and I regularly use the Spotty and iPlayer plugins. Id say that there were sometimes small delays when browsing through my music collection but never anything to worry about. However, when the Pi4 was released temptation got the better of me so I went ahead and purchased the 4gb version. I loaded up Max2Play (v2.5 beta) and away it went although this time feeling a good deal quicker than before. I havent carried out any specific measurements but Id say the scanning isnt much quicker than with the Pi3 which I guess is a limitation of the Nas arrangement I have. The day to day browsing is quicker though. Im not sure whether the extra memory (4gb) is making a big difference or not, I have tweaked the Database Memory Config in the Performance tab of LMS so perhaps the extra capacity is being used? I store my Pi4 in a smallish cupboard which also houses my Nas, a network switch and also my broadband fibre modem. This creates a fairly warm environment for the Pi4. Initially I didnt buy any kind of case and opted to see how it operated naked. Running purely as an LMS server it showed a temperature of around 62c at idle. This number was taken from the Max2Play settings/reboot screen so I assume it to be accurate. This seemed a bit high for my liking so I looked around for a case without a fan as I didnt want to create any more noise. I settled on this cheapo case . 27939 Which is availible 'here' (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32962800319.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.66147dd3MCC4rT_pvid=df0b32f6-50ad-4c05-a5cc-90b1aaf7cfd8_expid=df0b32f6-50ad-4c05-a5cc-90b1aaf7cfd8-1=1fba5b47-262d-483e-89ba-e23a3711d987_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1,searchweb201603_52http://) It is also available on Amazon but I opted to import it from China (I think) for about £10. Its been successful as the Pi4 now idles at about 48c. So all in all Id say my Pi4 experience has been positive. I should stress that there was no real need to upgrade from the Pi3 as it was working perfectly but thats not really the point Im wondering now how much better it would/could perform if I attach my music files directly to the USB port Cheers Ashley +---+ |Filename: geekworm2.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27939| +---+ acanning's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13303 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Depends on what your USB device is If it's a USB3 SSD, then perhaps. piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=U7JHY5WYHCNRU=GB_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted) if you like the piCorePlayer paul-'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58858 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
kidstypike wrote: > The microSD card is the default location for the LMS cache. But you can > move it to an attached USB drive if you wish. > > pCP > LMS page: > > 27929 Thanks a lot!! So if we move the data from sd card to usb the scanning might be faster? Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
DomieMic65 wrote: > From what menu in settings we set the dbase to be written in microSD? > Thnx! The microSD card is the default location for the LMS cache. But you can move it to an attached USB drive if you wish. pCP > LMS page: 27929 +---+ |Filename: microSD.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27929| +---+ *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi4B 4GB/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
>From what menu in settings we set the dbase to be written in microSD? Thnx! Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
sfraser wrote: > Been running LMS on a PI3 for quite sometime. Scans are slow as music > library is not local to the Pi but located on a NAS , and Pi 3 network > interface speed is limited. What I thought was slow search times etc. > actually turned out to be my Squeeze Ctrl remote control app. When > searching directly from the browser everything is pretty snappy. I am > interested in finding out if the additional RAM on the Pi4 can be > utilized by LMS with a dedicated install. > > Running a later nightly build on top of Max2play with at least 6 > players scattered throughout the house. With a Pi4 and files on a NAS mounted by NFS the scan time is appreciably quicker than a Pi3 in similar mode. This is with the db on the Pi not on the NAS. That said a Pi4 is not as quick as an old HP Microserver with SSD for the OS and db but files on the NAs via NFS. Its the SSD which stores the db that makes most difference. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
gustavm wrote: > Hi > > I have been running LMS on a Pi2 for a number of years. Has worked > reliably but quite slow to update after adding new FLAC files, and > sometimes not quite as responsive as I'd like. I had been thinking of > changing to a Pi3, but now that the Pi4 is available was wondering about > that. > > Should it just work fine on that with most recent LMS version, or are > there any differences I need to take note of? > > I'm not very Linux savvy, in the past have just followed the various > instruction threads. > > Thanks in advance for any advice... Been running LMS on a PI3 for quite sometime. Scans are slow as music library is not local to the Pi but located on a NAS. What I thought was slow search times etc. actually turned out to be my Squeeze Ctrl remote control app. When searching directly from the browser everything is pretty snappy. Running a later nightly build on top of Max2play with at least 6 players scattered throughout the house. 2 CHAN. SYSTEM SB3->Benchmark DAC-1-> Bryston(BP-25,3B)->PMC TB2 HOME THEATER SYSTEM SB2-> Bryston(SP1,4B,4B,2B,2B)-> PSB Stratus Goldi BASEMENT SYSTEM Duet-> Parasound Preamp (carver M1.0t) ->Klipsch La Scala's BEDROOM SYSTEM SB2-> Sony BoomBox REAR DECK/PATIO Duet-> Yamaha Reciever-> PSB Mini's, OFFICE Squeezebox Boom KITCHEN Squeeze Radio ENSUITE Squeeze Radio sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
paul- wrote: > I run a small 5v fan at 3.3 volts. plenty of cooling https://flirc.tv/more/raspberry-pi-4-case The lads at flirc appear to use the entire Aluminium case top as a heast sink. I have one on order I will let you know how it goes. 2 CHAN. SYSTEM SB3->Benchmark DAC-1-> Bryston(BP-25,3B)->PMC TB2 HOME THEATER SYSTEM SB2-> Bryston(SP1,4B,4B,2B,2B)-> PSB Stratus Goldi BASEMENT SYSTEM Duet-> Parasound Preamp (carver M1.0t) ->Klipsch La Scala's BEDROOM SYSTEM SB2-> Sony BoomBox REAR DECK/PATIO Duet-> Yamaha Reciever-> PSB Mini's, OFFICE Squeezebox Boom KITCHEN Squeeze Radio ENSUITE Squeeze Radio sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
gustavm wrote: > No I use a separate device in another room for streaming to an external > DAC, so only looking to run LMS on this device. In view of the heat > dissipation, maybe I should consider a Pi3 instead. I think this should > give a substantial improvement over a Pi2? The latest Pi3 (Pi3B+ I believe) works very well as a server, I have built 3 now for friends However the case that Kidstypike has used for the Pi4 looks good if you're only after a server and can put it where the small amount of noise will not be a problem. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TVLTMX3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8=1 Using the Pi4 does have benefits of speed of CPU,Ethernet and USB *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest Nightly on Centos 7.6 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U3 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player Groups *Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLite-X *Music:* 522GB,1.5K albums with 25K songs by 5K artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
I am interested too on LMS on rpi4 and the potential thermal issues... Main system: Synology DS115j/MacMini[SSD_8GB](LMS)/RPi3B+[LPS](piCore)/M2Tech EvoDAC Two+[LPS]/Densen DM20&30/Spendor SP2/3E Head-Fi: Schiit Vali2/Sennheiser HD600 & HD25Alum/Audeze Sine. DomieMic65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
I run a small 5v fan at 3.3 volts. plenty of cooling piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=U7JHY5WYHCNRU=GB_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted) if you like the piCorePlayer paul-'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58858 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
edwin2006 wrote: > And the noise level? I didn't particularly want a case with a fan, but this is just a stop gap until something more to my liking comes along. I'd retired the Pi4 to my spares drawer, but it seemed a pity to waste it, hence the purchase. Noise-wise I'd say it's whisper quiet, but then it's in the same room as my PC, which has a case fan going constantly. But even when I turn the PC off, I need to put my ear to within inches of the Pi case to hear anything. *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi4B 4GB/pCP 5.0.1 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
And the noise level? *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
gustavm wrote: > No I use a separate device in another room for streaming to an external > DAC, so only looking to run LMS on this device. In view of the heat > dissipation, maybe I should consider a Pi3 instead. I think this should > give a substantial improvement over a Pi2? I bought one of 'these' (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TVLTMX3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8=1) cases for a Pi4, keeps temp down to 40°C (ambient 24°C). With music on an SSD, it flies. *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.1 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Jeff07971 wrote: > Do you run picoreplayer at the moment ? > > There are reports on here that say pcp 6.0.1 runs LMS well on Pi4 and is > fast > > Heat has been discussed as well due to the Pi4's CPU > > Jeff No I use a separate device in another room for streaming to an external DAC, so only looking to run LMS on this device. In view of the heat dissipation, maybe I should consider a Pi3 instead. I think this should give a substantial improvement over a Pi2? gustavm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66840 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
gustavm wrote: > Hi > > Should it just work fine on that with most recent LMS version, or are > there any differences I need to take note of? > > ... rpi4 user here. The only drawback at the moment is the heat. Static pi runs at 60C or so and this increases with work load. A naked pi should have no problem with LMS and Squeezelite, unlikely to throttle I would think. There a cases (flicr being one and others being developed) and fans. I have a Pimoroni shim-fan which is a bit temperamental with it's bloody led light but works well. There is a script for raspbian, but used with pCP, it just runs all the time, baby! like a battery rabbit :) I mostly use the Raspbian desktop and last week built a Spotify-Connect client on the pi using librespot. At times the cpu was showing 100% use but the tem never went above 65C thanks to the fan. It's good fun :p ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
gustavm wrote: > Hi > > I have been running LMS on a Pi2 for a number of years. Has worked > reliably but quite slow to update after adding new FLAC files, and > sometimes not quite as responsive as I'd like. I had been thinking of > changing to a Pi3, but now that the Pi4 is available was wondering about > that. > > Should it just work fine on that with most recent LMS version, or are > there any differences I need to take note of? > > I'm not very Linux savvy, in the past have just followed the various > instruction threads. > > Thanks in advance for any advice... Do you run picoreplayer at the moment ? There are reports on here that say pcp 6.0.1 runs LMS well on Pi4 and is fast Heat has been discussed as well due to the Pi4's CPU Jeff *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest Nightly on Centos 7.5 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U2 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player Groups *Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLite-X *Music:* 522GB,1660 albums with 23087 songs by 5204 artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
Hi I have been running LMS on a Pi2 for a number of years. Has worked reliably but quite slow to update after adding new FLAC files, and sometimes not quite as responsive as I'd like. I had been thinking of changing to a Pi3, but now that the Pi4 is available was wondering about that. Should it just work fine on that with most recent LMS version, or are there any differences I need to take note of? I'm not very Linux savvy, in the past have just followed the various instruction threads. Thanks in advance for any advice... gustavm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66840 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
