Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-27 Thread Sam Whited
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote: do much prefer something sensible. (And Erlang always looks like someone was snorting Perl and sneezed to me). And now my coffee is dripping out of my nose and all over the table (turns out espresso up your nose really

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-27 Thread Vitaly Takmazov
Hello! It's here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=Myths I don't understand where is the proper place to comment it, so I will comment it here. XMPP is XML, so it's too slow. Yes, many novice developers saying exactly the same, but the problem is much deeper: *development with*

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-27 Thread Dave Cridland
On 27 August 2015 at 16:14, Vitaly Takmazov vitalys...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! It's here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=Myths I don't understand where is the proper place to comment it, so I will comment it here. Thanks for taking the time to comment; it's really appreciated.

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-27 Thread Evgeny Khramtsov
Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:13:14 +0100 Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote: The rest of these comments, though, I largely agree with - there's been talk of putting together both a new profile XEP, listing the things any modern messaging app should support, and also putting together a bunch of

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-27 Thread Dave Cridland
On 27 August 2015 at 21:42, Evgeny Khramtsov xramt...@gmail.com wrote: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:13:14 +0100 Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote: The rest of these comments, though, I largely agree with - there's been talk of putting together both a new profile XEP, listing the things any

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-11 Thread Dominik Renzel
Am 10.08.2015 um 22:11 schrieb Dave Cridland: On 10 August 2015 at 18:37, Dominik Renzel ren...@dbis.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Nice compilation, Dave. As one of the guys from xmppresearch.org, I might add a bit from the academic side. There is quite a body of literature available on XMPP research

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-11 Thread Steffen Larsen
Hi Just to add a bit more. I’ve done a maritime safety data service for Cobham / Immersat satellites (http://www.inmarsat.com/service/maritime-safety/). This is based on XMPP and MUC and some other XEPs. The work is done as a consultant so I have no other direct access for documentation.

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-11 Thread Dominik Renzel
Am 10.08.2015 um 22:12 schrieb Dave Cridland: On 10 August 2015 at 17:02, Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote: It's here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=Myths I've added Myth Five : XMPP is unsuited to the web. Also here, our collection at xmppresearch.org includes more than

[Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-10 Thread Dave Cridland
I've noticed that a large well-funded group have been attending a number of conferences and making unfortunately ill-informed statements about XMPP, in favour of their own solution in a number of spaces in which we overlap. In conformity with Napoleon's suggestion that one should never attribute

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-10 Thread Dominik Renzel
Nice compilation, Dave. As one of the guys from xmppresearch.org, I might add a bit from the academic side. There is quite a body of literature available on XMPP research (and - yes, we keep collecting!). We're currently working on a survey paper on a collection of XMPP research from 2003

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-10 Thread Sam Whited
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Matthieu Rakotojaona matthieu.rakotoja...@gmail.com wrote: As a real rebuttal to the myth, is there a list of what XEPs are considered normal for a modern use, and what's the status of current libraries/clients/servers ? It's come up several times lately that a

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-10 Thread Dave Cridland
On 10 August 2015 at 18:37, Dominik Renzel ren...@dbis.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Nice compilation, Dave. As one of the guys from xmppresearch.org, I might add a bit from the academic side. There is quite a body of literature available on XMPP research (and - yes, we keep collecting!). We're

Re: [Standards] XMPP Myths

2015-08-10 Thread Dave Cridland
On 10 August 2015 at 17:02, Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote: It's here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=Myths I've added Myth Five : XMPP is unsuited to the web. This is really an area I know very little about, so if Lance and Lloyd want to check I'm not taking their names in