Re: [Standards] Message-IDs

2018-02-14 Thread Michal Piotrowski
Hi Simon Thanks for refreshing the topic. Few things from me below (perspective of XMPP server developer, MongooseIM). Best regards Michal Piotrowski michal.piotrow...@erlang-solutions.com On 13 February 2018 at 17:57, Simon Friedberger wrote: > Hello List! > > > During the discussion on the

Re: [Standards] Council Agenda 2018-02-14

2018-02-14 Thread Dave Cridland
On 13 February 2018 at 18:55, Sam Whited wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018, at 11:28, Dave Cridland wrote: >> Currently, anyone can ask the Council to vote, and the Council can >> simply do so. That's not really very helpful, and in practise we do >> try to solicit opinion from across the community. >

Re: [Standards] Council Agenda 2018-02-14

2018-02-14 Thread Holger Weiß
* Dave Cridland [2018-02-14 08:54]: > Perhaps I'm overly aware that I haven't much of an idea about XEP-0013's > usage. A MAM client might want to purge offline messages to avoid duplicates. Holger ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.o

Re: [Standards] Council Agenda 2018-02-14

2018-02-14 Thread Sam Whited
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018, at 06:44, Holger Weiß wrote: > A MAM client might want to purge offline messages to avoid duplicates. I'm sure we'll discuss this is the council meeting, but to my knowledge this is the only part of the spec that anything implements now (please correct me if there is signif

[Standards] Council Minutes 2018-02-14

2018-02-14 Thread Dave Cridland
1) Roll Call - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-14/#16:01:10 Kev sent apologies. Daniel, Dave, Georg and Sam present. Kev shall vote on-list for everything. 2) Embarrassed shuffling as everyone realises it's St Valentine's Day and nobody thought to buy the Chair some nice flowers Georg pro

Re: [Standards] Pending XEP changes

2018-02-14 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 2/13/18 3:39 PM, Florian Schmaus wrote: > Folks, > > https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/496 > > is in limbo for over half a year. Sorry to hear it. > What can I as contributor do to get it > processed (rejected, applied, applied with changes)? I think this can be applied with changes - see m

Re: [Standards] Entity Capabilities 2.0

2018-02-14 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Montag, 12. Februar 2018 09:10:47 CET Jonas Wielicki wrote: > On Montag, 12. Februar 2018 00:41:54 CET Christian Schudt wrote: > > - Generally I am unsure if using the "xml:lang" and „name" from the > > identities is a good idea at all, because these two attributes should not > > change the capa

Re: [Standards] Entity Capabilities 2.0

2018-02-14 Thread Jonas Wielicki
Hi Christian, Thanks again for your input. Comments inline. On Dienstag, 13. Februar 2018 23:20:54 CET Christian Schudt wrote: > Hi Jonas, > > > You are referring to the processing entities side? The entity is free to > > choose from the set as it desires. The order of elements inside the hash >

Re: [Standards] Message-IDs

2018-02-14 Thread Simon Friedberger
Hi Michal, thank you for your comments. I will address them inline. > I'm really tempted to say that the new message routing (in next gen > XMPP as discussed during summit) > must require the message stanza to have "id" attribute. I personally > think that uuid v4 would enough here. > This, to my

Re: [Standards] Council Agenda 2018-02-14

2018-02-14 Thread Evgeny Khramtsov
Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:01:31 -0600 Sam Whited wrote: > I'm sure we'll discuss this is the council meeting, but to my > knowledge this is the only part of the spec that anything implements > now (please correct me if there is significant adoption of the other > parts of the spec). Well, as Daniel no

Re: [Standards] Council Agenda 2018-02-14

2018-02-14 Thread Daniel Gultsch
2018-02-15 7:49 GMT+01:00 Evgeny Khramtsov : > Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:01:31 -0600 > Sam Whited wrote: > >> I'm sure we'll discuss this is the council meeting, but to my >> knowledge this is the only part of the spec that anything implements >> now (please correct me if there is significant adoption o