Re: exit strategy was Plans for the upcoming 2/14 soft deadline

2003-02-04 Thread David Graham
roadmap document, both as a declarative statement of agreement amongst the developers, as well as an expectation setting mechanism for the rest of the struts community. -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Struts Tools

2003-02-04 Thread David Graham
The only area Java IDEs are weak in is GUI building. Eclipse is the best IDE I have ever used for any language but it doesn't do GUI building because the vast majority of java is server side. IBM's Websphere Studio Application Developer (WSAD) includes support for generating webapps with Strut

Re: exit strategy was Plans for the upcoming 2/14 soft deadline

2003-02-04 Thread David Graham
a release of Struts EL, or whatever else. There will be questions of which release of what works with what, but that's a just a documentation issue. As it stands, we have to face the fact that we have serious production issues, which, like security, trumps. -Ted. David Graham wrote:

Re: exit strategy was Plans for the upcoming 2/14 soft deadline

2003-02-04 Thread David Graham
Ted, I agree with you but want to add the item Craig and I discussed earlier regarding the standard actions throwing exceptions instead of sending error codes to the user. We need a small requirements list for 1.2 and ship it when we've completed those items. I don't want to relive the lengthy

Re: Static Serialization

2003-02-04 Thread David Graham
Wouldn't it be better to enforce the Serializability at the >interface/abstractClass level, rather than the implementation level? Then, every implementation would have to be serializable which is something we probably don't want to dictate. What if your implementation used a database? The def

Re: DynaActionForm initial values

2003-02-04 Thread David Graham
initial values Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 16:26:42 + Sure. How do I go about doing that? From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DynaActionForm initial values Date: Mon,

Re: exit stratefy was Plans for the upcoming 2/14 soft deadline

2003-02-04 Thread David Graham
The templates taglib is already deprecated. We won't move the base servlet spec to 2.3 until 2.0 which means no filters, el, or jstl dependencies. Thanks for the suggestions. David From: "Vic Cekvenich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [PATCH] bug #16603

2003-02-04 Thread David Graham
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PATCH] bug #16603 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:51:55 +0100 Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:33 PM , David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Please post your patches to a bugzilla report. They'll get lost > otherwise. > > Thanks, >

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/share/org/apache/struts/configModuleConfigFactory.java

2003-02-04 Thread David Graham
You're right Craig, static variables do not get serialized. I'll change this back tonight. > Made log instance transient Is this actually required to achieve serializability? It was my understanding that static variables were not part of the serialized state of an object, so it shouldn't m

Re: [PATCH] bug #16603

2003-02-04 Thread David Graham
Please post your patches to a bugzilla report. They'll get lost otherwise. Thanks, David From: "Malik Recoing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PATCH] bug #16603 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:22:23

Re: Standard Actions Sending Errors

2003-02-03 Thread David Graham
For 1.1, it makes sense to me that we declare a couple of specific exceptions that can then be caught and managed using the exception mapping technology. Can this be for 1.2? Is there an urgent reason for it to be in 1.1? My vision of 1.2 is to release it fairly soon after 1.1 with a few key

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/share/org/apache/struts/configModuleConfigFactory.java

2003-02-03 Thread David Graham
Maybe it's not required. I'll look into it tommorrow. Thanks, David From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/share/org/apache/struts/conf

RequestProcessor methods scope

2003-02-03 Thread David Graham
The internalModuleRelativeInclude and internalModuleRelativeForward methods are both protected but their javadoc states, "This method is used internally and is not part of the public API. It is advice to not use it in subclasses.". If they aren't part of the subclassing API, then I'll make thes

1.0.2 installation instructions

2003-02-03 Thread David Graham
There's a "bug" that refers to the 1.0.2 installation instructions. I couldn't find any 1.0.2 files in cvs except for the legacy javadoc. Do we still maintain 1.0.2 docs? Should I mark that bug as WONTFIX? Thanks, Dave _ STO

DispatchAction Interface

2003-02-03 Thread David Graham
Why is DispatchAction.unspecified() public? It looks like this method was added around 1.1 beta 2 so I'll change it to protected unless there's a reasonable explanation. David _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and

Standard Actions Sending Errors

2003-02-03 Thread David Graham
Is it appropriate for the standard actions to call response.sendError(... or would it be better for them to throw various types of Exceptions? It seems like it would be more flexible to throw exceptions now that we have declarative exception handling. This would allow the client programmer to

Re: [PATCH] for 13279

2003-02-03 Thread David Graham
html): "If you have a patch to submit, please mail it to the appropriate developer mailing list. Use the prefix "[PATCH]" on your message subject. Please include any relevant bug numbers . ." Does this page need updating given your practice and perhaps the practice of other A

Re: [PATCH] for 13279

2003-02-03 Thread David Graham
Please post this to the bugzilla ticket. We don't accept patches through the mailing list because they tend to get lost. David From: Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Development <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PATCH] for 13279 Date: 03 F

Re: DynaActionForm initial values

2003-02-03 Thread David Graham
You should post your suggestion and patches to a bugzilla enhancement ticket so we can look at them for 1.2. Thanks! David From: "Ed Milic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DynaActionForm initial values Date: Mon, 03 Feb

Re: Plans for the upcoming 2/14 soft deadline?

2003-02-03 Thread David Graham
I think struts-el should be part of the standard release. I don't understand why some taglibs have been included in the release and the el tags haven't. I understand that the taglibs will likely be replaced by JSF tags but that's not for another few years. And while I'm on JSF, I may as well

Re: The RequestUtils interface

2003-02-02 Thread David Graham
I've always been a little unclear about what RequestUtils' role should be. Passing in the ServletContext is redundant because (at least in servlet 2.3) you can get the session from the request and the ServletContext from the session. David From: Anthony Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To:

Re: 1.1 Cleanup Questions

2003-01-31 Thread David Graham
> Can o.a.s.util.ServletContextWriter be deprecated? It's instantiated once > in the ActionServlet and passed into DataSource objects setLogWriter() > method. Maybe this could be replaced with a commons-logging class? > How are you going to pass a commons-logging object to setLogWriter()? I t

1.1 Cleanup Questions

2003-01-30 Thread David Graham
Why are the action classes in o.a.s.tiles.actions declared final? Can o.a.s.util.ServletContextWriter be deprecated? It's instantiated once in the ActionServlet and passed into DataSource objects setLogWriter() method. Maybe this could be replaced with a commons-logging class? Can o.a.s.util.

Re: Synchronized blocks?

2003-01-28 Thread David Graham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Synchronized blocks? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:28:56 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, David Graham wrote: > Maybe I'm displaying gross ignorance here but AFAIK a synchronized block >

Re: Synchronized blocks?

2003-01-27 Thread David Graham
The synch. blocks do only allow one thread through that section at a time which may be the intended behavior. It still seems like the member variable Maps should be synchronized. Lack of sleep has some negative affects sometimes... Dave From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Synchronized blocks?

2003-01-27 Thread David Graham
Maybe I'm displaying gross ignorance here but AFAIK a synchronized block grabs the object's monitor and blocks other threads from calling *synchronized* methods on that object, right? Unsynchronized methods on that object can be called at will. I'm looking at LookupDispatchAction for PR #16019

Can't commit.

2003-01-27 Thread David Graham
Curse Microsoft and they're dreaded viruses! I've had network problems all day because of that SQL Server virus and now I can't commit a simple patch. Sorry, just had to vent. Dave _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get

Re: [AXIS4STRUTS] Axis4Struts package names

2003-01-21 Thread David Graham
ject: [AXIS4STRUTS] Axis4Struts package names Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:05:45 -0700 Howz this? Michael Oliver AppsAsPeers LLC 7391 S. Bullrider Ave. Tucson, AZ 85747 Phone:(520)574-1150 Fax:(520)844-1036 -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January

RE: Axis4Struts package names

2003-01-21 Thread David Graham
truts specific), some on the SF Project forums for details regarding the play things and even some on the axis-dev and axis-user lists as appropriate. Michael Oliver AppsAsPeers LLC 7391 S. Bullrider Ave. Tucson, AZ 85747 Phone:(520)574-1150 Fax:(520)844-1036 -Original Message- From: David G

RE: Axis4Struts package names

2003-01-21 Thread David Graham
st" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Axis4Struts package names Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:18:06 -0500 I think the consensus is to hold these discussion here. Mark -Original Message- From: David Graham [m

RE: Axis4Struts package names

2003-01-21 Thread David Graham
I'm confused by the struts-dev mailing list activity on this project. Is this the home of axis4struts development discussions? I guess I assumed that you guys had worked something out with Craig but it doesn't seem so. David From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Stru

RE: Axis4Struts package names

2003-01-21 Thread David Graham
axis4struts ? Michael Oliver AppsAsPeers LLC 7391 S. Bullrider Ave. Tucson, AZ 85747 Phone:(520)574-1150 Fax:(520)844-1036 -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Axis4Struts package nam

RE: Axis4Struts package names

2003-01-21 Thread David Graham
I haven't been following this discussion too closely but I agree with Mark. org.apache.struts.axis is the better choice. It's redundant to include "struts" after org.apache.struts... David From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To

RE: Application Resources

2003-01-20 Thread David Graham
ementation information about how struts is doing that. I attempted to traverse the code, but, figured I would propbably get a quicker answer here. Please, forgive my laziness. Thanks, Brandon Goodin Phase Web and Multimedia P (406) 862-2245 F (406) 862-0354 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phase.ws

Re: Application Resources

2003-01-20 Thread David Graham
This is a struts-user question. Struts stores a MessageResources object in the ServletContext under Globals.MESSAGES_KEY David From: "Brandon Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Dev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Application Resourc

Re: [PATCH] [Bug 16259]

2003-01-20 Thread David Graham
All patches should be attached to the corresponding bugzilla report so they don't get lost. David From: "Csaba Nemeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PATCH] [Bug 16259] Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:08:29 +0100 Hi,

Re: xhtml javascript hiding methods

2003-01-19 Thread David Graham
elopers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: xhtml javascript hiding methods Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:59:00 -0800 (PST) On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, David Graham wrote: > Thank you for reconsidering Martin :-). What about the situation wh

Re: xhtml javascript hiding methods

2003-01-19 Thread David Graham
r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: xhtml javascript hiding methods > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:51:27 -0800 (PST) > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-18 Thread David Graham
gt;> "David" == David M Karr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> "David" == David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> The only added attribute was "cdata" that defaults to true on the javascript David> tag. I'd

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-18 Thread David Graham
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:05:08 -0500 David Graham wrote: +1 Didn't David add the c

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-17 Thread David Graham
+1 From: "James Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:00:23 -0500 In line with Craig's note earlier tonight, and the semi-voting that is alr

Re: Repost from users list: Re: Axis/SOAP proposal for Struts

2003-01-17 Thread David Graham
Bookmark this link for a list of current struts bugs: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=Blocker&bug_severity=Critical&bug_severity=Major&bug_severity=Normal&bug_severity=Minor&email1=&emailtype1=

RE: xhtml javascript hiding methods

2003-01-17 Thread David Graham
s Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: xhtml javascript hiding methods Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:44:28 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, David Graham wrote: > Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:35:48 -0700 > From: David Graham

Re: A plea for closure

2003-01-17 Thread David Graham
Changing to commons-resources in 1.2 is fine with me. David From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A plea for closure Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:53:41 -0800 (PST) On

Re: A plea for closure

2003-01-17 Thread David Graham
The resource system change was on the 1.1 agenda for a long time. It's not a huge change because the commons resources api is the same. There will be no new features until after 1.1. David From: "James Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: PlugIn model design

2003-01-17 Thread David Graham
;AlphaOmegaAction" =:0) .. or SunRiseSunSet ... =:> But unless there's a beta 4, I wouldn't bother changing it. -T. David Graham wrote: I agree that PlugIn isn't an appropriate name. I think ActionServletListener would be more appropriate. Is it too late to change the

RE: xhtml javascript hiding methods

2003-01-17 Thread David Graham
My mail doesn't seem to be sending but I'll try anyway... The tags do not output the language script attribute when xhtml is enabled. Also, we're not generating incorrect xhtml. You can have the choice of how to hide the js from an xml parser. Either use a comment or a CDATA section. David

Re: PlugIn model design

2003-01-17 Thread David Graham
stening (or observing). It's just an investion-of-control technique so we can use an Action to manage resources instead of resorting to a separate servlet or other component. So besides LifeCycleAction, the next best thing might be "AlphaOmegaAction" =:0) .. or SunRiseSunSet ... =:&

Re: xhtml javascript hiding methods

2003-01-17 Thread David Graham
AIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: xhtml javascript hiding methods Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:51:27 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, David Graham wrote: > Ok, what do you think

RE: PlugIn model design

2003-01-16 Thread David Graham
Much of what you say you need a plugin for can be accomplished by using filters. IMO, Struts shouldn't recreate standard filter functionality. David From: "Pankaj Dhoolia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: PlugIn model design

2003-01-16 Thread David Graham
I agree that PlugIn isn't an appropriate name. I think ActionServletListener would be more appropriate. Is it too late to change the name? If we wanted to match the various servlet listener interfaces we could define the init method as init(ActionServletEvent e). It's not a big deal but Plu

Re: xhtml javascript hiding methods

2003-01-16 Thread David Graham
ports it. Dave From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: xhtml javascript hiding methods Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:04:45 -0800 (PST

xhtml javascript hiding methods

2003-01-15 Thread David Graham
Well, here are the choices as I understand them: 1. Use CDATA to hide the javascript and make it completely useless in current browsers. 2. Use a comment to hide the javascript which allows current browsers to work and xml parsers. The xhtml spec does suggest using CDATA but I don't see a re

Re: [Proposal] Migrate to Dependency on commons-resources

2003-01-14 Thread David Graham
Thanks Ted! I'm glad they ended up with more general names and separated interfaces. Dave From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Proposal] Migrate to Dependency on commons-reso

Re: [Proposal] Migrate to Dependency on commons-resources

2003-01-13 Thread David Graham
of messges that you want to return from the domain, including confirmation messages (like "record #63 inserted"). Meanwhile, the Commons Validator also has the idea of a Message carrier (like ActionMessages) at its core, and there should be a generic implementation of this object

Re: [Proposal] Migrate to Dependency on commons-resources

2003-01-13 Thread David Graham
ActionMessages doesn't make sense outside of Struts. It would need a new name at the least. If we move them to commons, they should become interfaces with some default implementations. Then people would be free to plugin their own implementation. I think they're fine staying in Struts for no

Re: [Proposal] Migrate to Dependency on commons-resources

2003-01-13 Thread David Graham
Are there any backwards compatibility problems here? Because the Struts classes use protected MessageResources members they are exposed to classes extending the framework. It seems that changing these to Messages objects would break existing extensions. Dave From: "Craig R. McClanahan"

Re: [PATCH] allow relative actions in struts-config.xml

2003-01-09 Thread David Graham
You should post patches to bugzilla against an existing bug report. David From: Graham Leggett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PATCH] allow relative actions in struts-config.xml Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 13:53:36 +0200

Re: build error with the nightly source

2003-01-08 Thread David Graham
You should use the same commons-logging that is distributed with beta 3 for your builds. David From: "aswath satrasala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: build error with the nightly source Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 02:56:

RE: Struts Coding Standard

2003-01-07 Thread David Graham
ut fields unless they are getting into the guts. Since many OSS projects (not struts) only offer source as their doco, it allows visitors to quickly get up to speed with the API without worrying about the internals. Just my thoughts on this.. James > -Original Message- > From: David G

Re: Struts Coding Standard

2003-01-07 Thread David Graham
Another practice I reciently started is placing fields at the very end of a class definition, after all methods. It makes comparing the class and it's interface. But since struts doesn't use many interfaces this isn't a must for me. -Rob That's certainly not a common practice and would confuse

Re: Beta 3 PlugIn interface change

2003-01-06 Thread David Graham
That's the risk you take using beta software. Struts does not guarantee compatibility between betas just between releases. David From: "David Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Beta 3 PlugIn interface chan

Re: Struts Coding Standard

2003-01-06 Thread David Graham
Couldn't you do it just on check-in? It seems like it would take forever to check out the project if it's always formatting the code. Dave From: Robert Leland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

Re: Struts Coding Standard

2003-01-06 Thread David Graham
. Actually, just checkint the latest: http://java.sun.com/docs/codeconv/html/CodeConvTOC.doc.html Construction of indentation is unspecified now. It avoids wars to be specific, though. $0.02, -Paul P.S.: I sometimes find the need to add naming guidlines such as avoiding MS-COMisms like "publ

Struts Coding Standard

2003-01-06 Thread David Graham
There's been some talk of formalizing the coding standard we follow so here's a starting point for discussions. 1. Follow the Java standard coding practices. This includes putting opening braces on the same line like if (true) {. All IDEs support formatting code to this standard and all Java c

Re: Proposal: Use java2html to generate browseable source code.

2003-01-06 Thread David Graham
I don't see much use for this. IDEs are much better than browsers for looking at source code. David From: "Matt Raible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Proposal: Use java2html to generate b

Re: Proposed: logic:else clause

2003-01-04 Thread David Graham
It looks like you're a committer now (congratulations!) so you could do this if you wanted. I think it's a waste of time because you can just use the JSTL. Dave From: "James Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

Re: [PROPOSED] html:link should have an "action=" option

2002-12-24 Thread David Graham
Looks like Ted agrees with you: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13645 If you provide a patch, it's more likely to get done. Dave From: "James Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PROPOSED] htm

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.1 Beta 3 Release Plan (revised)

2002-12-23 Thread David Graham
From: Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] Struts 1.1 Beta 3 Release Plan (revised) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:36:47 -0800 (PST) A number of new features have been added to Struts since the 1.1 Beta 2 relea

RE: Avoid code reformating !

2002-12-23 Thread David Graham
. If someoone has a stylistic scratch to itch, they should scratch it. (But it would be polite to find a bug itch to scratch first =:) Incidentally, the tab thing is because we email the deltas and sending tabs by email is problematic =:( -Ted. 12/16/2002 6:44:07 PM, David Graham <[EMAIL PRO

RE: AbstractMethodError in Nightly from 12.16.2002

2002-12-18 Thread David Graham
Probably because the new builds aren't binary compatible with the old ones. Try rebuilding your app. against the new jar files. Dave From: "Matt Raible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE

Re: Running the test.junit tests

2002-12-16 Thread David Graham
Are the optional pieces you're referring to the optional Ant tasks that include JUnit support? Dave From: Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Running the test.junit tests Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:07:10 -080

Re: Avoid code reformating !

2002-12-16 Thread David Graham
nd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Avoid code reformating ! Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:43:12 -0500 David Graham wrote: 3. I disagree that we should stop formatting code.

Re: Avoid code reformating !

2002-12-16 Thread David Graham
A couple of things: 1. Tabs were addressed as an issue but the jakarta guidelines state that tabs are not to be used in the first place. This drives me crazy but I follow it nonetheless. 2. I agree with closing one line blocks but this isn't in any standard. I've seen a lot of Struts code th

Re: Avoid code reformating !

2002-12-16 Thread David Graham
With all due respect Cedric, that code did not follow the java standard coding guidelines so it was a candidate for reformatting. Under the Jakarta rules code must meet those guidelines unless specified differently for the project. AFAIK Struts has no specific rules so it defaults to the java

Re: Taglib URI's

2002-12-15 Thread David Graham
You're right, this is for struts-user :-). Look in the tld files for the uri to use. This is also documented in the users guide. David From: "Matt Raible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Taglib URI's Date: Sun, 15

[OT] Re: goto HEH!

2002-12-14 Thread David Graham
This is way off topic... David From: micael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: goto HEH! Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 12:35:39 -0800 What the heh? I was nosing around in the class files of the mpp3 parser for xml today and

Re: Why are people are up on Struts

2002-12-14 Thread David Graham
Eclipse has an emacs key bindings setting so you can use those commands if you like. In the upcoming version it supports user defined key bindings so you could use vi commands or anything else. David From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

2002-12-13 Thread David Graham
! If there's one thing I dispise, it's getting trapped in a )@(#%*& program - and, yes, when I was first learning vi I got trapped in it! David Graham wrote: Isn't it vi not VI? Or "six" as I like to call it ;-). I loved my first experience with vi..."W

[OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts

2002-12-13 Thread David Graham
Isn't it vi not VI? Or "six" as I like to call it ;-). I loved my first experience with vi..."Why the hell can't I type anything?". Dave From: James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.1 Beta 3 Release Plan

2002-12-12 Thread David Graham
I agree with Ted. There are 17 open bugs, at least 10 of which are fairly important. Let's vote on Monday after some of the important bugs are solved. David From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Update Validator version included with Struts

2002-12-10 Thread David Graham
e Validator version included with Struts Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 20:30:24 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, David Graham wrote: > Can we upgrade to a current nightly of the Validator in our Struts > nightlies? I just spent several hours debugging a mysterious javascript > error only to find

RE: Hello, all.

2002-12-09 Thread David Graham
Barracuda to alot of developer's because it is more complex. Struts is a simple way of achieving the same goal and pragmatism is one of the values I prize most in this profession. -Daniel -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2

Update Validator version included with Struts

2002-12-09 Thread David Graham
Can we upgrade to a current nightly of the Validator in our Struts nightlies? I just spent several hours debugging a mysterious javascript error only to find that it was a validator bug that has been fixed since 12/3. I queried the bugs on validator and there's only one open that isn't very s

RE: Struts Taglibs

2002-12-09 Thread David Graham
I don't know of any previous attempt to do this. Personally, for dates I use 3 select boxes so the masking idea for that particular type of data isn't worthwhile to me. That doesn't mean there aren't other interesting uses for this. David From: Herval Freire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To

Re: Hello, all.

2002-12-09 Thread David Graham
ttle you know. > > At 11:08 AM 12/9/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, David Graham wrote: > > > > > Joseph, > > > I noticed you quoted me on your site but you left out the important point > > > that Struts has never and will never dic

Re: Hello, all.

2002-12-09 Thread David Graham
Joseph, I noticed you quoted me on your site but you left out the important point that Struts has never and will never dictate a model or view layer technology. Struts gives you total freedom because at its core it's simply an action controller. The taglibs will be replaced by standards like J

Re: TILES DTD: role attribute of definition

2002-12-08 Thread David Graham
I don't know the answer to this but it should be added to the dtd documentation. David From: "Matt Raible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: TILES DTD: role attribute of definition Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 20:37:42 -0700

Re: Why struts is looked down upon...

2002-12-07 Thread David Graham
He might be "pretty sharp" but he is terribly ignorant. His views are not based on facts. Struts has never dictated a view layer or model layer technology and is certainly a toolkit and not a platform. J2EE is a platform; Struts is less than 100 classes and implements a few common patterns wh

Re: Why struts is looked down upon...

2002-12-06 Thread David Graham
LOL, I think it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave From: "V. Cekvenich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why struts is looked down upon... Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 21:57:20 -0500 Oh, and his comments about Jakarta marketing,

Re: Why struts is looked down upon...

2002-12-06 Thread David Graham
AFAIK, people don't look down upon Struts. This is the first I've heard of it. The arguments listed on that page are the most ignorant comments possible. Struts is a web implementation of MVC just as Swing is a stand-alone implemenatation. That's like saying, "Swing sucks because it binds y

RE: Code Submissions

2002-12-06 Thread David Graham
a typical turnaround time, or is no such animal? -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Code Submissions You post patches in bugzilla. A committer reviews it and/or applies it

Re: Code Submissions

2002-12-06 Thread David Graham
You post patches in bugzilla. A committer reviews it and/or applies it and will post comments back to bugzilla. David From: Edgar Dollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Code Submissions Date: T

Re: subclassing frustrations

2002-12-05 Thread David Graham
I agree that Struts needs more interfaces. I think some classes aren't interfaces to force you into good design (ie. your form beans can't be model classes). I disagree with that approach and find it somewhat condescending to experienced programmers. My approach would be to make many things i

Re: struts-config.xml datasource vs. Tomcat's Connection Pool

2002-12-05 Thread David Graham
Since Struts stores the DataSource in the ServletContext you can reference it outside of Actions. I prefer the struts method because it's container independent. If you're always going to use a particular container then that reason doesn't matter. David From: "Matt Raible" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [patch] User Guide configuration.xml

2002-12-04 Thread David Graham
Can you please post the patch to bugzilla? This allows us to track things better. You could attach it to one of the existing documentation "bugs". Thanks, Dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (O'brien, Tim) Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Developers List'" <[EM

Re: b3 minus 27? (or so)

2002-12-04 Thread David Graham
Just pick a bug that looks interesting and that someone else hasn't been assigned to. Submit a patch with your fix to bugzilla. Thanks! Dave From: "Peter A. J. Pilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sub

Re: javascript validator

2002-12-03 Thread David Graham
After generating the static javascript functions you can put them in a js file and include that in every page. Then, use the staticJavascript="false" attribute to not render those functions again. David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EM

Re: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support

2002-11-27 Thread David Graham
der 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:34:24 +0100 (CET) Like Struts YES ;) Struts is on beta 2, add a lot of new feature and I'm sure a release is coming soon (start 2003), isn't it ? --- David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Of course they

Re: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support

2002-11-27 Thread David Graham
Of course they only support 1.0 because that's the only released version. If you were making a multi-million dollar IDE would you include beta software? David From: Emmanuel Boudrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EM

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