| And just for reference:
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| Brett Mclaughlin, Java and XML (O'Reilly, 2001)
| Eric Burke, Java and XSLT (O'Reilly, 2001)
| Michael Kay, XSLT, 2d ed. (Wrox, 2001)-considered the bible of XSLT
If people are using XML and XSLT together with Oracle
databases, my Building Oracle XML Applications
isn't teaching a designer XSLT to modify a schema into
HTML easier than teaching them to not break your java
code inside of a jsp?
No, it's not. XSLT *is* a programming language and you have to know
XPath to really do anything practical with XSLT. I would never try to
teach designers XSLT
Can you please explain WHY server side XSL transforms shd be more of a
performance (resource) hog than client side?
Thanks
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isn't teaching a designer XSLT to modify a schema into
HTML easier than teaching them to not break your java
code inside of a jsp?
No, it's not. XSLT *is* a programming language and you have to know
XPath
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A more fundamental issue here is that this only really addresses the view
of the MVC architecture
. The same type of system performed much
better under JSP. There was simply less processing involved.
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Can you please explain
where we had pretty good control over the browser
environment. That's the only case I would recommend that.
Greg
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Now that I look at this - I like this 3rd use case even better:
3. allow xml to be specified in-line. Tag then transforms against xsl
specified
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Hmm Thought I was sooo smart.
The JSTL already provides this
http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/xsl-doc/xsl-1.0/index.html
FWIW -
Kevin
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I aggree that it's very difficult to debug and is non-portable, but our
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I don't know much about Cocoon, but anytime you have to parse and
transform,
it's going to take time. XML - XSLT - HTML is done a lot in the ASP
world
munged together from multiple posts...
1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom?
Normally you want to separate the presentation from
the development. XSLT is a very strong tool but can
be considered almost a programming language. So you
either teach web designer's XSLT, or you
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There are a couple of issues (OK, I will only bring up a couple).
1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom? Normally you want
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Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that have XSLT
applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an
article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even
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v jsp
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Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that
have XSLT
applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an
article recently that outlined this particular idea, apparently to even
more
between disparate systems.
Mark
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I also posted a what do you think about cocoon question a week or so
ago.and still haven't
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I don't know much about Cocoon, but anytime you have to parse and
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it's going to take time. XML - XSLT - HTML is done a lot in the ASP
world
(I worked on such a project last
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Just wondering what people's thoughts are on using XML pages that have XSLT
applied to them to display html pages rather than using JSP's. I read an
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There are a couple of issues (OK, I will only bring up a couple).
1) The development of the XSLT will be done by whom? Normally you want to
separate the presentation from the development. XSLT is a very strong tool
but can
need to have multiple client types/outputs,
such as HTML, PDF, WML, etc. If not, then it _may_ not be worth it to
use.
- Robert
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Brett Mclaughlin is the man. JDOM rules.
my .02
peace,
Joe
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And just for reference:
Brett Mclaughlin, Java
Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The question of 'if you should' is always up for grabs :-), but it comes
closer to a 'yes' if you need to have multiple client types/outputs,
such as HTML, PDF, WML, etc. If not, then it _may_ not be worth it to
use.
We've found that XSLT works very well
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And just for reference:
Brett Mclaughlin, Java and XML (O'Reilly, 2001)
Eric Burke, Java and XSLT (O'Reilly, 2001)
Michael Kay, XSLT, 2d ed. (Wrox, 2001)-considered the bible of XSLT
Mark
He's a great guy - I've had many conversations with him and Jason on
jdom-interest.
Mark
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Interesting digression, Brett
-xslt v jsp
He's a great guy - I've had many conversations with him and Jason on
jdom-interest.
Mark
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Interesting
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