Really people, can we take the advocacy to chat or private email? Oh and
btw, the number of nodes on freenet is ~ 4000-16000.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 07:53:38PM -0400, Michael R. Stork wrote:
David Masover wrote:
an excuse to tell them how ignorant they are for not doing it your way
Now that we have let off the steam, did anyone ever really try to answer this nice person's questions to her satisfaction?
Sorry about stirring up the hornet's nest, but I do get tired of some insisting everyone should throw away
all their hard- and soft ware and get with the ONLY worthy
1) Find the IP address of my NAT or Firewall.
The FAQ says to consult my manual but I can't find this information.
check http://www.whatismyip.com/
it displays your ip from their POV which is the IP the freenet nodes have to use.
if your ISP dispconnects you every-so-often and you therefore have
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Michael R. Stork wrote:
| U, no offense, but are you just being intentionally argumentative ?
No, just trying to clear up a possible misconception. Some people have
this idea that there's some huge difference between a personal computer
and a
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 07:45:46AM -0500, David Masover wrote:
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Madeline Brubaker wrote:
| Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security
| Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to
Do yourself a favor, and
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 12:15:09AM -0400, Michael R. Stork wrote:
David Masover wrote:
Michael R. Stork wrote:
[...]
| a hardware firewall and NAT. I wouldn't connect any PC direct to a
| cable/DSL line.
I would. A linux one. Or better, a BSD one. With daily updates. The
firewall
Because the solution he offered was actually reasonably practical. For a
lot of people anyway. Maybe not trivial but certainly not hard, and
probably not expensive. However we are straying dangerously close to
advocacy here...
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 12:25:15AM -0400, Michael R. Stork wrote:
:)
Good point. Personally I've never used Norton even on a Windows
machine.. maybe somebody here has.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 02:08:00AM -0400, Nicholas Sturm wrote:
Now that we have let off the steam, did anyone ever really try to answer this nice
person's questions to her satisfaction?
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 05:46:24PM -0500, David Masover wrote:
| I had an external firewall only that sat between the cable modem and the
| house LAN, but there was a problem; someone else on the LAN got a worm
| (they aren't as savvy) and I was running Windows without a firewall, and
| with
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 03:01:24PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) Find the IP address of my NAT or Firewall.
The FAQ says to consult my manual but I can't find this information.
check http://www.whatismyip.com/
it displays your ip from their POV which is the IP the freenet nodes have
I would respond to this, but this is DEFINITELY getting off-topic.
Please take distribution/OS advocacy to chat.
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 06:04:59PM -0500, David Masover wrote:
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Nicholas Sturm wrote:
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|Madeline Brubaker:
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If you are just using NIS and connecting directly to the DSL modem/cable
modem, then you just need to tell NIS to allow incoming connections on
the listenPort... you probably don't need to set ipAddress. And if you
do, on a dynamic DNS system, it probably would be a bad idea anyway.
On Sun, Jun
This is off-topic, but illustrates some attitudes around here that are not
helpful for a Freenet Support list.
On Monday 14 June 2004 06:46 pm, David Masover wrote:
Jay Oliveri wrote:
| On Monday 14 June 2004 08:45 am, David Masover wrote:
|Madeline Brubaker wrote:
|| Would someone step me
Jay Oliveri wrote:
Being that this is a support list, support those who have questions in
things you have answers for and ignore the rest. And let those who wish to
remain ignorant of the technical details remain so.
Jay
Thank you ! You summed up rather nicely what I was trying to get across.
so. If they're curious, then they'll ask about it. But if someone is
asking for an answer to a very specific question, then turning it into
If someone asks Does anyone know how to make crispy bagels in the
microwave and I suggest using a toaster instead for that particular task,
then I'm not
If it's a very old computer it may not be able to run Freenet
adequately.
It should. I know it isn't. Freenet uses 100% CPU wherever I run it.
Heh. Well, not everyone who runs Freenet is as paranoid as some of our
users are. :)
They are patient enough with its slowness to be that
David Masover wrote:
an excuse to tell them how ignorant they are for not doing it your way
I was suggesting my way. I wasn't implying that anyone was stupid.
Perhaps it wasn't you that made the first comment, but the first person
who started talking about Linux in this thread did so by
David Masover wrote:
so. If they're curious, then they'll ask about it. But if someone is
asking for an answer to a very specific question, then turning it into
If someone asks Does anyone know how to make crispy bagels in the
microwave and I suggest using a toaster instead for that
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Michael R. Stork wrote:
| making beef stew. And you telling them that electric is no good, that
| before they do anything else they need to rip out their stove and
| install a gas one. Oh and beef isn't good for them anyway so here's this
| really
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Michael R. Stork wrote:
| David Masover wrote:
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| an excuse to tell them how ignorant they are for not doing it your way
|
| I was suggesting my way. I wasn't implying that anyone was stupid.
|
| Perhaps it wasn't you that made the first comment,
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Madeline Brubaker wrote:
| Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security
| Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to
Do yourself a favor, and don't run that software.
Yes, I'm a Linux nut. My attitude towards Windows
David Masover wrote:
Madeline Brubaker wrote:
| Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security
| Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to
Do yourself a favor, and don't run that software.
Yes, I'm a Linux nut. My attitude towards Windows boxes is: almost all
Windows
I'm not a Linux nut, but I agree with this in principal. Just using a
software firewall is totally insecure. Your best bet, if you don't want
to bother setting up a Linux box to act as your go between, [...]
What, a linux/unix box is *not* a software firewall? :)
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On Monday 14 June 2004 08:45 am, David Masover wrote:
Madeline Brubaker wrote:
| Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security
| Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to
Do yourself a favor, and don't run that software.
Yes, I'm a Linux nut. My attitude
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I'm not a Linux nut, but I agree with this in principal. Just using a
software firewall is totally insecure. Your best bet, if you don't want
to bother setting up a Linux box to act as your go between, [...]
What, a linux/unix box is *not* a software firewall? :)
Dear
Madeline Brubaker:
Please excuse the nuts around here that seem to be as much of a
problem as Apple lovers once were.
I don't particularly like some of Window's creations, but even though
Linus releases are getting slowly more usable for ordinary people,
they still do not have enough
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Michael R. Stork wrote:
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| a hardware firewall and NAT. I wouldn't connect any PC direct to a
| cable/DSL line.
I would. A linux one. Or better, a BSD one. With daily updates. The
firewall really wouldn't help all that much for me, although I
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|I'm not a Linux nut, but I agree with this in principal. Just using a
|software firewall is totally insecure. Your best bet, if you don't want
|to bother setting up a Linux box to act as your go between, [...]
|
|
| What, a
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Nicholas Sturm wrote:
| Dear
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|Madeline Brubaker:
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| Please excuse the nuts around here that seem to be as much of a
| problem as Apple lovers once were.
Ooh! Ooh! I smell a rant!
Please excuse my response to being called a nut.
| I don't
David Masover wrote:
Michael R. Stork wrote:
[...]
| a hardware firewall and NAT. I wouldn't connect any PC direct to a
| cable/DSL line.
I would. A linux one. Or better, a BSD one. With daily updates. The
firewall really wouldn't help all that much for me, although I do use
NAT as an
David Masover wrote:
| What, a linux/unix box is *not* a software firewall? :)
Point taken. But Linux kernel vs Norton userspace? About the third
time I've said so on this list, but I just turn off the _services_ that
I don't use, and people get denied anyway, with no special firewall.
What's
Madeline Brubaker wrote:
Would someone step me through setting up Norton Internet Security
Professional properly? I'm not entirely sure how to:
1) Find the IP address of my NAT or Firewall.
The FAQ says to consult my manual but I can't find this information.
It depends on whether or not
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