[freenet-support] connecting to freenet?

2004-09-15 Thread Newsbyte
Yes, well...welcom to the club. It's really not that much of a surprise.

What can I say?


I suggest you scrutinise www.freenethelp.org and see if you can find any
useful hints there.

Your situation is not unique, and there are some possible reasons mentionned
on the wiki, but it still could be that it doesn't apply in your case.

For instance, I suspect that people that have a router/firewall still have
more difficulties running (connecting) it, even though the new builds are
supposed to work without a prob even if you have one. I'm wondering
though...can anyone, preferably a devl, explain to me what exactly is the
deal in regard to that? DOES it work now 'out of the box', or do you need to
adapt your configuration (NAT, port,...) and if so to what degree. Pls make
a clear and understandable (for noobs) explanation so that I can copypaste
it on the wiki. (Also if there are other likely opinions on why a node can't
connect after hours are welcommed).

Any volunteers?

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Re: [freenet-support] connecting to freenet?

2004-09-15 Thread Toad
Okay, here's the deal at present:

If you don't port forward, bidi connections means that you may still be
able to become a useful member of the network by serving requests for
nodes that you opened connections to. However, you may not, in practice,
as Newsbyte's node is an example of (have you tried reseeding, Newsbyte?
Could you perhaps reinstall, then send me the routing table and open
connections pages twice daily for a few days? Probably the Environment
page would help too).

If you DO port forward, then your node's IP address will be detected
automatically and everything should just work.

Automatic port forwarding is possible for some routers via UPP but has
not yet been implemented.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 11:10:07AM +0200, Newsbyte wrote:
 Yes, well...welcom to the club. It's really not that much of a surprise.
 
 What can I say?
 
 
 I suggest you scrutinise www.freenethelp.org and see if you can find any
 useful hints there.
 
 Your situation is not unique, and there are some possible reasons mentionned
 on the wiki, but it still could be that it doesn't apply in your case.
 
 For instance, I suspect that people that have a router/firewall still have
 more difficulties running (connecting) it, even though the new builds are
 supposed to work without a prob even if you have one. I'm wondering
 though...can anyone, preferably a devl, explain to me what exactly is the
 deal in regard to that? DOES it work now 'out of the box', or do you need to
 adapt your configuration (NAT, port,...) and if so to what degree. Pls make
 a clear and understandable (for noobs) explanation so that I can copypaste
 it on the wiki. (Also if there are other likely opinions on why a node can't
 connect after hours are welcommed).
 
 Any volunteers?
 
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[freenet-support] Donations page now has a paypal counter

2004-09-15 Thread Toad
http://www.freenetproject.org/index.php?page=donate

The Donations page now has a paypal balance indicator. This is updated
every 15 minutes, unless it breaks down, via a screen scraper (PayPal's
official API is really heavy and doesn't give us what we need anyway).
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Re: [freenet-support] i can?t connect to freenet

2004-09-15 Thread Toad
Hi. What can you get to? Can you get to the Web Interface page on
http://127.0.0.1:/ ? Please switch to Advanced mode using the link
on that page. What happens when you request TFE, FIND or the other
links? Please send me the contents of the Environment, Open Connections
and Routing Table (from Node Status) pages. Are you firewalled?

On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 01:13:19PM -0600, Jorge Acosta wrote:
 i been trying for hours but i can?t connect, i just download the last version, 
 please help!
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RE: [freenet-support] connecting to freenet?

2004-09-15 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Also remember to avoid as much jargon as possible.  I should know what a
wiki is, but what always comes to mind is a small open-air shack on a
Hawaiian island.


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 From: Newsbyte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: 9/15/2004 9:05:35 AM
 Subject: [freenet-support] connecting to freenet?

 Yes, well...welcom to the club. It's really not that much of a surprise.

 What can I say?


 I suggest you scrutinise www.freenethelp.org and see if you can find any
 useful hints there.

 Your situation is not unique, and there are some possible reasons
mentionned
 on the wiki, but it still could be that it doesn't apply in your case.

 For instance, I suspect that people that have a router/firewall still have
 more difficulties running (connecting) it, even though the new builds are
 supposed to work without a prob even if you have one. I'm wondering
 though...can anyone, preferably a devl, explain to me what exactly is the
 deal in regard to that? DOES it work now 'out of the box', or do you need
to
 adapt your configuration (NAT, port,...) and if so to what degree. Pls
make
 a clear and understandable (for noobs) explanation so that I can
copypaste
 it on the wiki. (Also if there are other likely opinions on why a node
can't
 connect after hours are welcommed).

 Any volunteers?

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[freenet-support] Donations and slashdot

2004-09-15 Thread Newsbyte
As some of us have already discussed on IIP, the question becomes urgent
what to do for the near future. As the donationpage shows, we are in need
for some extra financial input, and thus we should contemplate on the how to
do this best.

Now, I've said before that we're long overdue for the 0.6, but still, it's
also true that currently, it isn't much better performing (as a whole) then
the 0.5 version of the past year. Many changes have been made, but no real
progress (from the viewpoint of a newbie user) has come out of it, as yet.

Now, with the simulations, I feel we have a tool that could finally help us
in a way that surpasses the haphazard way untill now, and hopefully that
will be even more stimualted with a testnetwork, in the not-to-distant
future. I have reasonable hope, thus, that, with further improvements such
as the small-chunks and the tools to check performance, we might actually go
forward rather quickly, compared to the past year(s). It therefor begs the
question, whether it would not be wise to wait a bit longer still, untill we
really have something that is noticable better.

This all depends on whether we can afford it, and here again, a suggestion
of toad(?) gives us an alternative. apart from being useful tools for the
development process, the graphs made, are also very interesting and visually
appealing. It is therefor suggested, and IMHO a good idea, to use these
graphs, and the simulator, as a slashdot-article. If we made a nice page
with graphs and some summary explanation, and we offer the simulator for
d/l, preferably with a howto so ppl can easily try it out, I think this will
cause enough attraction to give us some additional flux in regard to
interest and finances.

The financial and other gains would be substantial and form a very nice
in-between untill the 0.6 version is ready, and it wouldn't cost us all that
much in time and effort, in comparison.

So, I would agree with this option, make something (page?) interesting
of/with the graphs, make the simulator a bit more user-friendly, and clean
up some bugs on the current stable build, but nothing too vast...and bring
it on slashdot as soon as possible.

Once we've gained some financial leeway and the pressure is in that regard
has diminuished, we can continue with the 0.6 full speed. Maybe, in a few
months, we can then bring out a 0.6 that IS, indeed, better then any current
0.5 build!

My two euros

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Re: [freenet-support] Donations and slashdot

2004-09-15 Thread Toad
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 11:21:51PM +0200, Newsbyte wrote:
 As some of us have already discussed on IIP, the question becomes urgent
 what to do for the near future. As the donationpage shows, we are in need
 for some extra financial input, and thus we should contemplate on the how to
 do this best.

Yes. Although we may have anything up to several thousand dollars in the 
bank.. Ian has been trying to get hold of the trustee for some time...
 
 Now, I've said before that we're long overdue for the 0.6, but still, it's
 also true that currently, it isn't much better performing (as a whole) then
 the 0.5 version of the past year. Many changes have been made, but no real
 progress (from the viewpoint of a newbie user) has come out of it, as yet.

I don't know about that. I installed a new stable node today, within an
hour or so I could get many pages...
 
 Now, with the simulations, I feel we have a tool that could finally help us
 in a way that surpasses the haphazard way untill now, and hopefully that
 will be even more stimualted with a testnetwork, in the not-to-distant
 future. 

Quite possibly (on both counts).

 I have reasonable hope, thus, that, with further improvements such
 as the small-chunks and the tools to check performance, we might actually go
 forward rather quickly, compared to the past year(s). It therefor begs the
 question, whether it would not be wise to wait a bit longer still, untill we
 really have something that is noticable better.

I think so.
 
 This all depends on whether we can afford it, and here again, a suggestion
 of toad(?) gives us an alternative. apart from being useful tools for the
 development process, the graphs made, are also very interesting and visually
 appealing. It is therefor suggested, and IMHO a good idea, to use these
 graphs, and the simulator, as a slashdot-article. 

And an appeal for funds. :)

 If we made a nice page
 with graphs and some summary explanation, and we offer the simulator for
 d/l, preferably with a howto so ppl can easily try it out, 

Probably a good idea..

 I think this will
 cause enough attraction to give us some additional flux in regard to
 interest and finances.
 
 The financial and other gains would be substantial and form a very nice
 in-between untill the 0.6 version is ready, and it wouldn't cost us all that
 much in time and effort, in comparison.
 
 So, I would agree with this option, make something (page?) interesting
 of/with the graphs, make the simulator a bit more user-friendly, and clean
 up some bugs on the current stable build, but nothing too vast...and bring
 it on slashdot as soon as possible.

Agreed. I want to build a slightly more convincing simulator first, i.e.
one which simulates something more sophisticated than 100 fully
connected nodes, although Ian and Oskar's more-theoretical results could
fill the gap if we needed to launch an appeal immediately. But the basic
principle is solid.
 
 Once we've gained some financial leeway and the pressure is in that regard
 has diminuished, we can continue with the 0.6 full speed. Maybe, in a few
 months, we can then bring out a 0.6 that IS, indeed, better then any current
 0.5 build!
 
 My two euros
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Re: [freenet-support] Donations and slashdot

2004-09-15 Thread Toad
Clarification: We do not want to be slashdotted _right now_. When we are
ready, we will make it clear - we want to set up a nice page on the
website, for example, and fix a few more stable bugs.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 12:42:22AM +0100, Toad wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 11:21:51PM +0200, Newsbyte wrote:
  As some of us have already discussed on IIP, the question becomes urgent
  what to do for the near future. As the donationpage shows, we are in need
  for some extra financial input, and thus we should contemplate on the how to
  do this best.
 
 Yes. Although we may have anything up to several thousand dollars in the 
 bank.. Ian has been trying to get hold of the trustee for some time...
  
  Now, I've said before that we're long overdue for the 0.6, but still, it's
  also true that currently, it isn't much better performing (as a whole) then
  the 0.5 version of the past year. Many changes have been made, but no real
  progress (from the viewpoint of a newbie user) has come out of it, as yet.
 
 I don't know about that. I installed a new stable node today, within an
 hour or so I could get many pages...
  
  Now, with the simulations, I feel we have a tool that could finally help us
  in a way that surpasses the haphazard way untill now, and hopefully that
  will be even more stimualted with a testnetwork, in the not-to-distant
  future. 
 
 Quite possibly (on both counts).
 
  I have reasonable hope, thus, that, with further improvements such
  as the small-chunks and the tools to check performance, we might actually go
  forward rather quickly, compared to the past year(s). It therefor begs the
  question, whether it would not be wise to wait a bit longer still, untill we
  really have something that is noticable better.
 
 I think so.
  
  This all depends on whether we can afford it, and here again, a suggestion
  of toad(?) gives us an alternative. apart from being useful tools for the
  development process, the graphs made, are also very interesting and visually
  appealing. It is therefor suggested, and IMHO a good idea, to use these
  graphs, and the simulator, as a slashdot-article. 
 
 And an appeal for funds. :)
 
  If we made a nice page
  with graphs and some summary explanation, and we offer the simulator for
  d/l, preferably with a howto so ppl can easily try it out, 
 
 Probably a good idea..
 
  I think this will
  cause enough attraction to give us some additional flux in regard to
  interest and finances.
  
  The financial and other gains would be substantial and form a very nice
  in-between untill the 0.6 version is ready, and it wouldn't cost us all that
  much in time and effort, in comparison.
  
  So, I would agree with this option, make something (page?) interesting
  of/with the graphs, make the simulator a bit more user-friendly, and clean
  up some bugs on the current stable build, but nothing too vast...and bring
  it on slashdot as soon as possible.
 
 Agreed. I want to build a slightly more convincing simulator first, i.e.
 one which simulates something more sophisticated than 100 fully
 connected nodes, although Ian and Oskar's more-theoretical results could
 fill the gap if we needed to launch an appeal immediately. But the basic
 principle is solid.
  
  Once we've gained some financial leeway and the pressure is in that regard
  has diminuished, we can continue with the 0.6 full speed. Maybe, in a few
  months, we can then bring out a 0.6 that IS, indeed, better then any current
  0.5 build!
  
  My two euros
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[freenet-support] Timed content

2004-09-15 Thread daniele
I was thinking about the incredible amount of space that is used within 
freenet to hold contents that no one will never try to retrieve, 
because, for example, they are obsolete.
If the person that puts the content on freenet knows that, for example, 
within 1 week, it will be obsolete, because of newer releases or because 
no one will know no more about its existence (eg: files shared via 
frost), or for anything else, it would be great if he could specify a 
time when every node keeping parts of the file can delete them (removing 
the file from freenet).

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[freenet-support] is there any documentation

2004-09-15 Thread UltraRed



that explains what the "load status" means on the 
freenet web interface? 

also, who do i interpret the other data under 
"load" on the general information page as well as the other pages?

thanks.

UltraRed
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