I can empathize. Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen take
a working application and push it aside, while directing new users to an
alpha version. The way it would normally be done is listing Freenet 0.5 as
the stable version instead of the unsupported version, and 0.7 as
You might want to try out the more stable Freenet 0.5 version. There are more
users and much more content than the alpha 0.7 version.
On Wednesday 16 August 2006 06:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was going to dedicate a PC and it's resources to Freenet. I installed the
application but don't
an ominous cow herd a écrit :
I can empathize. Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen take
a working application and push it aside, while directing new users to an
alpha version. The way it would normally be done is listing Freenet 0.5 as
the stable version instead of the
Which JVM? Which OS?
freenet can do ***nothing*** about crashing and buggy Java Environments. Get
the current release and check your libraries.
2 crashes during night
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java version "1.5.0_07"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_07-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_07-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which JVM? Which OS?
freenet can do ***nothing*** about crashing and buggy Java Environments. Get the
SUN current release 1.5.0_08 available at http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
SUN early access 1.6 beta 2 available at http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/ea.jsp
I'm running:
java version "1.6.0-beta2"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-beta2-b85)
Java
.7 has very few users, very little content, and no opennet.
It's useless for new users.
And the security that you say is better has yet to be tested. I
wouldn't bet on something that's only been around for a few months vs.
something that's been slowly improving for...well, longer than I've
known
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
.7 has very few users, very little content, and no opennet.
It's useless for new users.
I'm not sure stopping linking it on the website would help it have more
users. About content, I see new freesites apearing quite the same rythm
as on 0.5 so it's just a
Anyway, I won't argue on that because the decision is not in my hands.
The fact is that 0.7 is the only supported version and that it is the
future. Not linking to the current version and gripping to the old one
would be an interesting kind of suicide for a project that's a constant
Freenet works different. Accept it.On 8/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:Anyway, I won't argue on that because the decision is not in my hands.
The fact is that 0.7 is the only supported version and that it is thefuture. Not linking to the current version and gripping to the old
This is the sort of thing that happens when you break backward
compatibility and/or interoperability. You throw away all the user base
and goodwill you've built up over the years. THAT'S suicide.
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 11:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, I won't argue on that because the
It's not suicide, it's progression. The people who accept it will enjoy the new, better freenet, those who don't will continue to live in the past until they can be persuaded.On 21 Aug 2006 13:18:13 -0400,
Rowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the sort of thing that happens when you break
As on toad's request these go here:
This appened on node (svn build 10227) shutdown.
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at java.io.DeleteOnExitHook.add(DeleteOnExitHook.java:33)
at java.io.File.deleteOnExit(File.java:936)
at
We don't have a big enough team to actively support both.
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:31:38PM -0700, an ominous cow herd wrote:
I can empathize. Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen take
a working application and push it aside, while directing new users to an
alpha version.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:19:15AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.7 has very few users, very little content, and no opennet.
It's useless for new users.
And the security that you say is better has yet to be tested. I
wouldn't bet on something that's only been around for a few months vs.
There were good reasons, and we will try not to do it again before 1.0.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:18:13PM -0400, Rowland wrote:
This is the sort of thing that happens when you break backward
compatibility and/or interoperability. You throw away all the user base
and goodwill you've built up
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Trying to install freenet 0.7 to check it out and I'm running into a
problem.
On Windows 98SE, I tried at first to simply use
http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/freenet-win32.exe
but it starts up, I click ok, and it gives me an
Oh no we won't give in, let's go living in the past.
A future that severs all connections with the past and present is no
future at all. It's just a fantasy.
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 13:44, Ortwin Regel wrote:
It's not suicide, it's progression. The people who accept it will
enjoy the new, better
If we look at the history of the Freenet project, we will see that there were
stable and unstable versions. There were times that the unstable version was
more stable than the stable version. New users were directed to the stable
version while the developers and some adventurous users would
Progress can be done in ways that will minimize the pain of progression. In
the past, Freenet had stable and unstable branches. New users were directed
to the stable branch while developers and the adventurous users used the
unstable branch. This worked well in the past.
What I don't
I don't think that the 0.5 network needs active coding. It's fine the way it
is. It should be stated that there will be no patches or bug fixes for the
0.5 network, but putting it in small print and calling it unsupported while
directing new users to the alpha 0.7 network just doesn't make
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another one that is *already* better ?
My 2 cents
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Which JVM? Which OS?
freenet can do ***nothing*** about crashing and buggy Java Environments. Get
the current release and check your libraries.
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.7 has very few users, very little content, and no opennet.
It's useless for new users.
And the security that you say is better has yet to be tested. I
wouldn't bet on something that's only been around for a few months vs.
something that's been slowly improving for...well, longer than I've
known
"Anyway, I won't argue on that because the decision is not in my hands.
The fact is that 0.7 is the only supported version and that it is the
future. Not linking to the current version and gripping to the old one
would be an interesting kind of suicide for a project that's a constant
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This is the sort of thing that happens when you break backward
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and goodwill you've built up over the years. THAT'S suicide.
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Trying to install freenet 0.7 to check it out and I'm running into a
problem.
On Windows 98SE, I tried at first to simply use
http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/freenet-win32.exe
but it starts up, I click ok, and it gives me an
Progress can be done in ways that will minimize the pain of progression. In
the past, Freenet had stable and unstable branches. New users were directed
to the stable branch while developers and the adventurous users used the
unstable branch. This worked well in the past.
What I don't
I don't think that the 0.5 network needs active coding. ?It's fine the way it
is. ?It should be stated that there will be no patches or bug fixes for the
0.5 network, but putting it in small print and calling it "unsupported" while
directing new users to the alpha 0.7 network just doesn't make
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