Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Project health

2004-07-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Nicholas Sturm wrote:

> >helping matters much.  It's hoped this will change when one of the Free
> >Software implementations of Java (gcj, Kaffe) becomes more stable wrt
> >Freenet.
> >
> I lost the meaning in the last sentence.  What was intended by "wrt"?

with-respect-to

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Retiring from the project

2004-05-25 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


On Tue, 25 May 2004, Ian Clarke wrote:

> That is a shame.  Clearly I don't agree with your reasoning, there is no
> evidence that any other language would not have similar or worse issues
> (consider the amount of time we would spend dealing with memory leaks
> and array overflows had we implemented in C++). As for focus,  our

Not to mention the issues with portability on a C/C++ implementation.
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Re: [freenet-support] PayPal, ISPs and freedom of speech

2004-05-20 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> > motivated.  Is money worth losing our freedom for?  I don't think so but a
> > lot of shareholders probably disagree with me (because they're rich and
> > can effect political maneuvering).
>
> Welcome to Babylon!
> >
> > It's going to get to the point where everyone needs to run a freenet node
> > just to have secure private email conversations.  Problem is getting
> > everyone you know and transfer email with to run freenet nodes (and some
> > of them may have hardware incapable of running a node effectively).
>
> LOL. Ever heard of PGP?

Problem with PGP is that the recipient also needs PGP to be able to read
the email from senders using PGP this is not typically the case in most
email cases.  For instance this list doesn't support PGP transport
(otherwise the subscription options would necessarily include an exchange
of public keys so that you could send/receive PGP encapsulated email to
the mailing list).
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Re: [freenet-support] PayPal, ISPs and freedom of speech

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> The ISP can monitor your email even if they don't relay your mail..
> > With the whole PayPal thing how
> > long before ISPs start using *their* TOSes as weapons against freenet
> > particpants.
> Only if they get scared. Unfortunately it is depressingly easy to
> detect nodes at present, we haven't removed the session negotiation (and
> other) bytes yet...

Were the shareholders (or Disney, RIAA, MPAA, et al.) that disagree with
freenet/P2P principles to get on an ISP(s)'s case with FUD...

I have no money but I wager 2 binary digits that one of the above
mentioned entities had something to do with PayPal's action taken against
the freenet donation account.  I also wager that a transfer of a large
not-officially-disclosed amount of money or shares between higher-ups in
PayPal and said entity(ies) had something to do with the process.  Put
short: I smell a payoff arrangement.

> > There are a lot more ISPs than PayPal's around meaning there is
> > statistically a lot more people that disagree with FreeNet's
> > principles wokring for ISPs. ISP could do the exact same thing to
> > someone participating in freenet either as a node or by participating
> > on one of their mailing lists in a similar manner to how PayPal
> > suspended the FreeNet donation account.  All they'd have to do is look
> > through their MTA log and see the destination (they wouldn't even need
> > to see the message data) then do their thing ...
> Not very likely, but I personally run a mailserver on my box too.
> Unfortunately I started getting bounces for reasons similar to the

This could easily have been an ISP rather than PayPal.  Furthermore
whatever or whoever convinced PayPal to make this decision, having been
successful in his/her/its efforts, may progress and continue their agenda
now that they have determined that their method of warfare against the
freenet project is having success.

> above. Now I forward my mail through dodo.freenetproject.org via an SSL
> tunnel (no, we do not provide this service to anyone but core
> developers!).

All the trends show that freedoms of speech and press are disintegrating
in all areas of the world and that the decline of these freedoms is
capitalist-consumer-economically and sometimes socio-theologically
motivated.  Is money worth losing our freedom for?  I don't think so but a
lot of shareholders probably disagree with me (because they're rich and
can effect political maneuvering).

It's going to get to the point where everyone needs to run a freenet node
just to have secure private email conversations.  Problem is getting
everyone you know and transfer email with to run freenet nodes (and some
of them may have hardware incapable of running a node effectively).
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Re: [freenet-support] Here's the bounce reply (the list WILL block subscribers on DSL addresses running their own MTAs)

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

On Tue, 18 May 2004, Jay Oliveri wrote:

> Don't wait for someone to implement what you've suggested (allowing direct
> SMTP connections from a dynamic IP); there's enough work to do without
> building these kinds of things that just lead to constant maintenance.
>
> There's nothing preventing you from using another SMTP gateway; it doesn't
> have to be your ISP, it just has to answer to a DNS reverse lookup (or
> something like that). GMane, Yahoo!, GMX, etc.

Any smarthost is bad becuase any of them can potentially analyze your
email going through it (they don't even need to do that; they can just
inspect the headers in the MTA logfile).  With the whole PayPal thing how
long before ISPs start using *their* TOSes as weapons against freenet
particpants.  There are a lot more ISPs than PayPal's around meaning there
could be a lot more people that disagree with FreeNet's principles.  An
ISP could do the exact same thing to someone participating in freenet
either as a node or by participating on one of their mailing lists in a
similar manner to how PayPal suspended the FreeNet donation account.  All
they'd have to do is look through their MTA log and see the destination
(they wouldn't even need to see the message data) then do their thing -
"that user is involved with something to do with open proxies - let's
suspend his/her account for TOS violation"
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Re: [freenet-support] mailing list subscriber email should bypass spam blockers

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> > What exactly happens? I don't think the spam filtering we have on dodo
> > would arbitrarily discard messages from DSL hosts, they might be
> > slightly more likely to be held...
>
> It seems dodo is using the blacklist server SORBS (www.dnsbl.sorbs.net).

This definately will discard messages from a majority of hobbyist
residential internet sites (read: cannot afford business accounts which
offer static IP addressing) running their own MTAs.

> If you click on the "Check Entry" button on this page, you
> will find the reason for rejection.

I know all about SORBS and its overzealous blocking policy.
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Re: [freenet-support] mailing list subscriber email should bypass spam blockers

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Toad wrote:

> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> >=20
> > And to further the mail objection against having to use my ISP's mailer
> > to talk to *this* list is that Shaw in theory can now look at my mail
> > traffic and if they don't like the Freenet project, could suspend my
> > internet account in a similar manner to how PayPal suspended yours.
> >=20
> > Please, please, please FIX this and allow direct MTA connections from
> > subscribed members only.  Having to go thru the ISP mail server is a MAJOR
> > privacy concern for me (I know from sysadmin experience that they can look
> > at any mail passing thru their server at any time).

> What exactly happens? I don't think the spam filtering we have on dodo
> would arbitrarily discard messages from DSL hosts, they might be
> slightly more likely to be held...

I thought I posted the text of the failure message.  It reports as
'service unavailable' and directs dul.sorbs.net hitting on my MTA's IP as
the cause (again I normally don't smarthost thru my ISP due to privacy
concerns) but I've had to switch.  The mailing list has only recently
started doing this; I used to be able to post here.

I'll try again with smarthosting off and if it bounces again I'll post the
bounce reply exported to a text message with full headers.
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[freenet-support] Here's the bounce reply (the list WILL block subscribers on DSL addresses running their own MTAs)

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 18 09:25:34 2004
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details

The original message was received at Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:32 -0700 (PDT)
from localhost.enugen.net [127.0.0.1]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(reason: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using 
dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81)

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to a.mx.freenetproject.org.:
>>> DATA
<<< 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using 
dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
<<< 554 Error: no valid recipients

[ Part 2: "Delivery Status" ]

Reporting-MTA: dns; ruby.enugen.net
Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.enugen.net
Arrival-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:32 -0700 (PDT)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; a.mx.freenetproject.org
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked 
using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81
Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:48 -0700 (PDT)


[ Part 3: "Included Message" ]

Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Brian Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Freenet Support Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I'm sending this message directly thru my MTA without smarthosting
thru my ISP

This is the message I am attempting to send to the list to test for a
bounced mail.  If I get a bounce as I mentioned I'll text export the
bounce reply and post the error.
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[freenet-support] (fwd) Re: paypal (Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details)

2004-05-17 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

Um, perhaps your mailsever should check for subscriber addresses *before*
it runs the overzealous spam filtering services?

The message I tried to send (I am a subscribed member and think getting
blocked like this is BS) is at the very bottom

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Brian Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Freenet Support Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: (fwd) Re: paypal (Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details)



On Mon, 17 May 2004, it was written:

> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from localhost (localhost)
>   by ruby.enugen.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) id i4HJVc2m010539;
>   Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT)
>   (envelope-from MAILER-DAEMON)
> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem 
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
>   boundary="i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net"
> Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
> Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)
>
> This is a MIME-encapsulated message
>
> --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net
>
> The original message was received at Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
> from localhost.enugen.net [127.0.0.1]
>
>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> (reason: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using 
> dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
> http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81)
>
>- Transcript of session follows -
> ... while talking to a.mx.freenetproject.org.:
> >>> DATA
> <<< 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using 
> dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
> http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81
> 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
> <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients
>
> --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net
> Content-Type: message/delivery-status
>
> Reporting-MTA: dns; ruby.enugen.net
> Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.enugen.net
> Arrival-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.0.0
> Remote-MTA: DNS; a.mx.freenetproject.org
> Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked 
> using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
> http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81
> Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:29 -0700 (PDT)
>
> --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net
> Content-Type: message/rfc822
>
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from ruby.enugen.net (localhost.enugen.net [127.0.0.1])
>   by ruby.enugen.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i4HJVE2m010537
>   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
>   (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Received: from localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>   by ruby.enugen.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i4HJVDLX010534
>   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
>   (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> X-Authentication-Warning: ruby.enugen.net: brian owned process doing -bs
> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Christopher Brian Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Freenet Support Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PayPal
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
> I'm guessing the next people they freeze are going to be people that have
> their picture on their website and they appear to be northeastern Saudi
> Arabian becuase they might be laundering funds for terrorism?
>
> Your situation needs answers.  Unfortunately PayPal is probably pretty
> well legally grounded and there won't be much you can do.  And to date I
> haven't read a slashdot post about it yet.
>
> Maybe you should suggest people start sending money orders to the project
> maintainers directly?
>
> Another suggestion, what about SourceForge's donation system, or does THAT
> go thru paypal too?  Of all the open source projects, how many of THEM
> pertain to some sort of anonymization project?  Is PayPal going to freeze
> them too?
>
> You might want to ask the sourceforge people for help on this one.
>
> --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net--
>
>
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[freenet-support] mailing list subscriber email should bypass spam blockers

2004-05-17 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

And to further the mail objection against having to use my ISP's mailer
to talk to *this* list is that Shaw in theory can now look at my mail
traffic and if they don't like the Freenet project, could suspend my
internet account in a similar manner to how PayPal suspended yours.

Please, please, please FIX this and allow direct MTA connections from
subscribed members only.  Having to go thru the ISP mail server is a MAJOR
privacy concern for me (I know from sysadmin experience that they can look
at any mail passing thru their server at any time).

Just remember every ISP you're forcing subscribers to send their mail
through may be the next 'PayPal'.

Also note that you have an identity of the sender (they subscribed after
all) so if you get a spam from a subscriber you know who to tar and
feather so there's no reason to use the overzealous IP blocking services
on mailing list subscribers.
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Re: [freenet-support] More Freenet Problems

2004-03-31 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Ian Clarke wrote:

> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:00:22 +0100
> From: Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] More Freenet Problems
>
> On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 04:03, Steven wrote:
> > After recently being It appears to be running my node properly, but I
> > am still unable to get Fred working.  Whenever I go to
> > http://127.0.0.1:/ I get a 500 error. Any idea what the problem
> > might be?

Hmm...

I have a problem similar to this when I run Fred in Windows XP
Try http://localhost:

On my system http://127.0.0.1: doesn't work no matter what I do
it has to be localhost or it doesn't work
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Re: [freenet-support] Various Freenet problems using latest version with WinXP

2004-03-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

Use notepad or some other editor to update your freenet.conf manually.
Once you start using the configfile manually *never* run the config
program.  There are known issues with the config program at the time of
this writing.

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Michael Stather wrote:

> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:24:08 +0100
> From: Michael Stather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [freenet-support] Various Freenet problems using latest version
> with WinXP
>
> Hi,
>
> I encountered 2 main poroblems trying to use freenet:
>
> 1. I´ve a router, and whatever I inser in the "ipadress" field of the
> config, I get
>
> There was an error determining this node's physical address(es).
> Please make sure  and  are correctly set.
> Note that you may put a host name in the  field if you have a
> dynamic IP and are using a dynamic DNS service.18.03.2004 21:37:05
> (freenet.node.Main, main, ERROR): There was an error determining this node's
> physical address(es).
> Please make sure  and  are correctly set.
> Note that you may put a host name in the  field if you have a
> dynamic IP and are using a dynamic DNS service.
> freenet.BadAddressException: Address seemed incorrect. To use Freenet you
> must have a globally addressable Internet address set correctly.  at
> freenet.node.Main.getAddresses(Main.java:1606)at
> freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:617) 18.03.2004 21:37:05
> (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): starting filesystem
>
> in the logfile, even if I set the current WAN IP of the router instead of a
> dyndns hostname
>
> 2. The config utility doesn´t work.
> When I try to configure and then click on "ok" in the settings dialog, the
> "nodeconfig.exe" crashes.
> It leaves a partly written freenet.ini on the HD whose last lines are
> always:
>
> 
> # Geek Settings
> 
>
> # The number of attempts to make at announcing this node per
> # initial peer. Zero means the node will not announce itself
> announcementAttempts=3
>
> # The amount of time to wait before initially announcing the node,
> # and to base the time the time between retries on. In milliseconds.
> announcementDelay=180
>
> # The value to mutliply the last delay time with for each retry.
> # That is, for try N, we weight *^N
> # before starting.
> announcementDelayBase=2
>
> # announcementPeers: undocumented.
> announcementPeers=3
>
> # How long to wait for authentication before giving up (in milliseconds)
> authTimeout=12
>
> # The interval at which to write out the node's data file
> # (the store_ file, *not* the cache_ file).
> checkPointInterval=1200
>
> # How long to listen on an inactive connection before closing
> # (if reply address is known)
> connectionTimeout=60
>
> # The expected
>
> what can I do? I would like to use freenet but I can´t :(
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
> regards
>
> Michael Stather
>
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[freenet-support] (no subject)

2004-03-17 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

Umm, how often does the unstable build revise?

It's already advanced today twice.

The 60013 build seems to be badly connected.  The only activelink my
servlet main page can get successfully is Dolphin's site.  Is this a bug
or a feature?
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Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5076

2004-03-17 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Toad wrote:

> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:09:24 +
> From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [freenet-support] Stable build 5076
>
> Freenet stable build 5076 is now available. The snapshots have been
> updated. You can get the build via the update.sh script on Linux, BSD,
> or OS/X, or use the freenet-webinstall.exe utility to update on Windows,
> or get the jar from
> http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-latest.jar . All stable
> branch users should upgrade.
> Major changes:
> * Make 5074 mandatory. Most nodes seem to have upgraded... This is
>   necessary for the next item.
> * Send the minRequestInterval on the IdentifyPacketMessage, a message
>   that is exchanged when a connection is opened. This will improve the
>   accuracy of rate limiting.
> * Fix a serious bug in the new NGRoutingTable discard-sort order (i.e.
>   the algorithm that decides which node to drop when we want to drop a
>   node from the routing table). The bug would have caused new nodes that
>   can't be connected to to persist in the routing table forever. It was
>   introduced in 5075.

How does this stable build compare to unstable 60012?
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Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy

2004-03-15 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> , instead of
> 
>
> The test site I inserted into my own node did have a full doctype tag
> when I wrote it, but it didn't when I retrieved it, it just had .
>
> Is this due to fproxy's anonymity filter? If so, why does it
> remove/shorten them? Also, I've noticed that the default gateway page
> does have a full doctype tag, why, if  is fproxy that removes the tags
> from freesites, does it let this one through?

This is a very likely possibility because the doctype makes reference to a
W3C DTD which is a public internet link.  The annonymity filter needs to
remove references to internet sites since most browsers will send a
referral URL that invades your privacy (it essence if the web browser goes
to the validation site it will do so with the address of the page you are
viewing.  This invades your privacy becomes someone reading the access
logs can find out what freesite you were visiting).  The government could
subpoena W3C's weblogs to find out about freesite accesses and they'll
have an IP number attached to the visit to their site so the referral
freesite URI + the IP number access in W3C's log could be used against you
if the material you were accessing is outlawed in the jurisdiction of
W3C's server or any government system that sees packets along the route to
W3C.  They could visit the same freesite by the referal URI and find out
"what book you were reading at the time"

> 2.  I have noticed on some pages they have this sort of section in the
> header:
>
> 

These are the meta tags used by freesites to support their inclusion onto
the various indexing freesites.

title - ovbious, this is the site's name
category - what kind of site is this?  I don't have knowledge
   about what acceptable values for this are
description - textual description of the freesite
activelink - the site icon to be associated with your freesite
 (think like the little banner icons many people
  put onto their regular internet websites for
  people to link to them with)
addresstype - again I'm iffy on all the acceptable values but DBR
  AFAIK means the address of this freesite permutates
  automatically to a different site name either daily or
  weekly at midnight GMT.  A site marked as DBR has to
  reinsert itself at the new DBR generated redirect
  key or the site effectively disappears (unless you
  select go to earlier site in the error screen that
  comes up for references to DBR sites that haven't
  been updated yet [or your routing can't find the new
  content yet]).

The alternative to DBR is to using revisions by putting an integer in the
URI part of your site.  You start the integer at 1 on your first insertion
of the site.  Your site forward references a number of 'editions' ahead
(that you have not yet inserted) by refering to the same uri echanging 1
for 2, 2,3 3,4 etc for several steps (usally four or five).  You have an
activelink image on each edition so on the existing (edition 1) page shows
up for edition 1.  If you haven't inserted a new edition then the other
activelinks show up as broken images.  But if at somepoint you insert with
the integer now set to 2 the #2 activelink comes alive and the visitor to
the #1 site now knows (by the unbroken activelink) that a second edition
is now available.  To be nice to people that might want to check on older
content your edition list should be design so that when more editions are
available that your have edition links that you put forward and at least
one previous edition so the users can backtrack the editions of your
freesite.

ie: site using 5 edition links (the numbers in [] would be your edition
activelinks)

first edition:
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

second edition:
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

third edition:
[2] [3] [4] [5] [6]

fourth edition:
[2] [3] [4] [5] [6]

fifth edition:
[3] [4] [5] [6] [7]

sixth edition:
[4] [5] [6] [7] [8]

The edition list 'scrolls' as you have more editions than links the user
can still follow the backlinks to get to previous editions.

Or you can keep a permanent edition list with at least one forward edition
link).  You'd probably do it with buckets.  This following setup would let
you do four editions before having having to add another row for the next
five editions:

while publishing edition 1-4:
[ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5]

while publisihing edition 5-9:
[ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5]
[ 6] [ 7] [ 8] [ 9] [10]

while publisihing edition 10-14:
[ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5]
[ 6] [ 7] [ 8] [ 9] [10]
[11] [12] [12] [14] [15]

while publisihing edition 15-19:
[ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5]
[ 6] [ 7] [ 8] [ 9] [10]
[11] [12] [12] [14] [15]
[16] [17] [18] [19] [20]

etc...

Note: larger bucket sizes (I chose 5) will increase the time taken for the
page, moreover, the main disadvantage of a permanent list is that when
older editions fall off the freenet (remember that stale unaccessed
content is moved out to m

Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?

2004-03-14 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> Yes, provided they are compatible builds.  There are two freenet's
> maintained by the freenetproject; stable and unstable.  They are seperate
> networks that do not communicate with each other.

Btoh nodes are running NV 0.5, PV STABLE-1.50, BN 5074, CVS
1.90.2.50.2.101

> When you say "Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able
> to use the nodes together to increase the available search path within a
> couple hops or so", are you saying these two nodes are on different tcp/ip
> networks, or one node is from stable and another from unstable?

different TCP/IP networks

> > > > give me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the
> > > > ref does not contain an estimator fieldset.  Is there a way to
> > > > generate complete files that have all the required information?
> > > > Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use
> > > > the nodes together to increase the available search path within a
> > > > couple hops or so.
> > > >
> > > > } a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
> > > > a's routes  }  =-> nodeA <--> nodeB <-=  {  b's routes
> > > > }{

nodeA and nodeB are two different freenet nodes operating at separate IP
numbers nodeA has a set of routes, a's routes and nodeB has a set of
routes b's routes.  I would like nodeA and nodeB to have a persitent
connection between each other in order to be able to use each other's
routes.

I'm getting way too many RNF/DNFs so any way to expand the available
routing would be a welcome thing either node. about 60% of the time it
doesn't even get off the originating node.  I've tried putting each
other's node's ref into the seedfile but the nodes don't seem to want to
use them.  As I said earlier the windows version just complains that there
are no estimator fieldsets for the noderef and won't import it.

On the freebsd node (at the other IP number) the only way I've gotten it
to use the other node is by making it the only entiry in the seedfile.
This had the disadvantage that not only was is restricted to whereever the
windows node could get to its available freenet routes, but to my
shock, it wasn't learning about visitors as many freenet docs have
suggested the node should be able to.  Nodes would connect and it even
made outbound connections but it's list of available routes under the node
status subsection still reported only one host in the routing table.

I've ruled out firewall issues on both sides becuase both sides can
negotiate outbound connections and receive inbound connections.  I've also
double check in the environment and the node are reporting the correct
WAN-side router IP numbers and access ports.
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Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?

2004-03-14 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Jay Oliveri wrote:

> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:34:38 -0500
> From: Jay Oliveri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's
> routing table?
>
> After reading your emails for the last 2 days I have no clue what you're
> trying to do.  You were first using stable, then unstable.  Then a friend's
> node, then nodes on 2 different networks (i can only assume stable &
> unstable).

> So what is it again you're trying to do?  (I dont' understand the A's routes
> vs. B's routes argument either).

get the two nodes to interoperate with each other.  I would suspect this
could be done by adding each node's ref to the other node's seedfile

> > I am having trouble trying to interconnect friends' freenodes.  The give
> > me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the ref does
> > not contain an estimator fieldset.  Is there a way to generate complete
> > files that have all the required information?
> >
> > Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use the
> > nodes together to increase the available search path within a couple hops
> > or so.
> >
> > Any way to do this so that the connections stay permanent?
> > Im trying to have the nodes work like this
> >
> > } a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
> > a's routes  }  <-= nodeA <--> nodeB <-=  {  b's routes
> > }{
> >

node a has one set of routes, b another set
nodeA and nodeB run on separate networks
but the goal is to have A and B permanently connect to each other so the A
can take advnatage of B's nodes and A's nodes can take advantage of B's.

Why is this so diifuclt to understand, what am I not explainging right?
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[freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?

2004-03-14 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

I am having trouble trying to interconnect friends' freenodes.  The give
me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the ref does
not contain an estimator fieldset.  Is there a way to generate complete
files that have all the required information?

Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use the
nodes together to increase the available search path within a couple hops
or so.

Any way to do this so that the connections stay permanent?
Im trying to have the nodes work like this

} a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
a's routes  }  <-= nodeA <--> nodeB <-=  {  b's routes
}{

I'm hoping this configration will help connectivity a bit and reduce the
dreaded RNFs and DNFs.
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RE: [freenet-support] Stable build 5075 - snapshots lagging behind?

2004-03-14 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Kevin Bennett wrote:

> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:17:48 -
> From: Kevin Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [freenet-support] Stable build 5075 - snapshots lagging
> behind?
>
> FYI:
>
> The snapshots don't appear to have been updated.  08:15 GMT Sunday, and I'm
> still getting 5074 from freenet-latest.jar.

Even on march 13th around 8-9pm PST it's still getting 5074...
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[freenet-support] Is this silence normal?

2004-03-13 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

The list was busy and seemed to suddenly stop.  Is there something wrong
with the network or listserver?
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[freenet-support] specifed IPAddress but my node is still trying to autodetect

2004-03-13 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

How do I stop my node from trying to autodetect when I've specified the IP
address.  Version 0.5 STABLE-1.50 build 5074 cvs 1.90.2.50.2.101

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[freenet-support] Manually adding freenodes

2004-03-13 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

I have two freenodes running on separate networks (some stuff works, and
other stuff doesn't on one, and vice versa for the other)

How can I manually reference the nodes to each other?  (Hopefully this
will allow the freenodes to share their routes and allows both nodes to
see all the content available to each node separately).

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[freenet-support] Finding out about if freenet node is learning

2004-03-13 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

I wonder if you could add one more binomial graph to the node status:
"number of nodes discovered - nodes already known"

This would be useful for determining if the freenet node is learning about
the freenetwork topography.

Or is there already a way to determine if a node is learning about new
ones?

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Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT

2004-03-12 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Toad wrote:

> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:46:55 +
> From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Christopher Brian Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT
>
> I'd guess it was a problem with the OS, or the JVM. You can however work
> around it by setting ipAddress= and ipDetectorInterval=0
> in the config file (remove any preceding %'s or #'s first), and of
> course restarting the node.

The automatic config update checker won't catch this change?
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Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2004-03-12 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


> > There _has_ to be a question when installing asking the
> > user if he/she pays for bandwidth (esp outgoing) and set the configuration in
> > Freenet accordingly - bad press resulting from Joe Doe installing Freenet and
> > getting $1000 bills (think NZ, OZ) isn't good.

> Hmm. Good idea. However, I'm not sure that you CAN run a freenet ndoe
> with any reasonable performance if it's limited to 3GB/mo as is common
> in oz. Technically, the solution is the average bandwidth limiter.
> However this is not known to work well (it is pretty much untested since
> NIO), mostly because no developers have that sort of connection. Perhaps
> we should put some effort in, but I'm not sure that it's proportionate
> as users with such connections won't get much out of or contribute much
> to Freenet. Yes, it might be useful for the occasional content author,
> so it IS worth thinking about; it's just that they'll be put off by the
> dire performance implied.

But I'm not a developer and I do need to keep a leash on the bandwidth my
node produces.  I've set it to 24576 in/24576 out  so hopefully overall I
won't be leaching more than 48KiB/sec.  I share a network with a friend
who pays the bill (has a 50G/month limit) and I'd like to have a present,
but, limited network bandwidth profile.  He was really leary of letting me
run a freenet node and he's all but banned kazaa and other related progs
from being used by his roommates.

> > Better portals. People _don't_ want links to child pornography (no, I don't want
> > a discussion, flamefest etc, I'm talking the general public who want to USE
> > Freenet) to be the first thing they see. Instead the top portal should contain
> > links like the Diebold one, the Scientology Bible etc. Advertise the fact that
> > Freedom of Speach is the central issue.

This doesn't sound like such a bad idea.  I'm sure persons delivering the
really disgusting content have other channels for disseminator their keys.
But I think freenet itself handles this problem.  The very fact I'm
getting DNF's is testment to the fact the freenet is very efficient (maybe
a little too so) at weeding out stuff not accessed much like child
pornagraphy with more active datastore things like stuff being censored by
the DMCA and stuff (becuase that's a very hot topic right now).

Freenet pretty much handles the child pornography on its own due to the
way infrequently used data is preempted for newer data; and likely to
require a lot of work of its maintainer (frequent inserts becuase it will
degrade in the network rapidly becuase IMHO not a lot of people wish too
see that material so they never request it - even more so because these
are images and possibly even likely to be splitfiles - makes the
maintenance to make the material accessible without the infamous DNF a lot
of work for the maintainer of such sites).

On the other hand the file degradation feature tends to be bad for trendy
things.  Where the first month a resource is placed into the network (oh
an example I like, such as an anime fansub) and then it idles and erodes
away.  It frustrates the heck out of me becuase the freesite that links to
one video I'd like to see is *still* there but the 700M video DNFs all
over the place (it's a splitfile) while trying to fetch it.

> Somebody want to maintain a freesite that links to controversial
> material but doesn't link to illegal material? A lot of it is a matter
> of judgement and personal ethics - Thought Crime links to Mein Kampf and
> an article on bestiality as well as a lot of overtly political stuff.
> Anyway, YoYo's Controversy section is a good start.

My thought on the "home" freesite links is that a good starter freesite
should appeal to the majority of people and have the darker side of the
freenet not bluntly proclaimed on the first page the freenet user sees.
Splitting adult content away from general content/freenet/freedom links
(ie having a single link to a separate freesite index for adult material
may be a start in the right direction).  This will at least make the first
contact palatable for *anyone* entering the "home" freesite.

Something that might also be good is have some duplication of material
that isn't controversial, illegal, or typically censored (ie: kid-safe
freesites, educational sites and the lot).  So that the freenet looks more
like the internet.  This will encourage more people to use freenodes to
access content.  Hitting heavy on the "no popups or banner ads" slogan
needs to be flogged way more than it's mere mention in the documentation
now.  I think a good one is run a banner on normal internet sites: "run
your own website!  no size limit, no space limit!  think this is a lie
[click here]" (links to freenet.sf.net).  Another idea might be to
encourage people to mirror their sites onto freenet if they are on
gee-oh-sh*tties or yoohoo/homestead with their grossly commercialized
page extras forced onto their clients' websites and add a link [to view
this site without 

Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

> I used to get these with an earlier version of the Sun JDK.  Which version are
> you using?
>
> I'm running FreeBSD here, too (I noticed you mentioned it in another thread).
> The latest port revision is jdk-1.4.2p6_4.  I'd strongly recommend upgrading.
> It's not nearly as laborious a process once you already have a native JDK
> installed (which I assume you do now).

#java -version
java version "1.4.2_02"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_02-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_02-b03, mixed mode)

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Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


> I used to get these with an earlier version of the Sun JDK.  Which version are
> you using?
>
> I'm running FreeBSD here, too (I noticed you mentioned it in another thread).
> The latest port revision is jdk-1.4.2p6_4.  I'd strongly recommend upgrading.
> It's not nearly as laborious a process once you already have a native JDK
> installed (which I assume you do now).

#java -version
java version "1.4.2_02"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_02-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_02-b03, mixed mode)

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[freenet-support] Re: This error is showing up in my logs a LOT (added config info)

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:

> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:49:20 -0800 (PST)
> From: Christopher Brian Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Freenet Support Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: This error is showing up in my logs a LOT
>
>
> How can I fix this error that's showing up in my logs very repetitively:
>
> Mar 10, 2004 2:33:00 AM (freenet.node.IPAddressDetector, QThread-89,
> ERROR): SocketException t$
> java.net.SocketException: Bad address
> at java.net.NetworkInterface.getAll(Native Method)
> at
> java.net.NetworkInterface.getNetworkInterfaces(NetworkInterface.java:204)
> at
> freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:95)
> at
> freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:82)
> at
> freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:56)
> at
> freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:49)
> at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:168)
> at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:55)
> at
> freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.run(StandardMessageHandler.java:210)
> at
> freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.received(StandardMessageHandler.java:157)
> at
> freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.access$0(StandardMessageHandler.java)
> at
> freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler.handle(StandardMessageHandler.java:67)
> at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:256)
> at
> freenet.thread.QThreadFactory$QThread.run(QThreadFactory.java:214)
>

My current freenet.conf looks like this:


listenPort=2000
#routingTableImp=ng
seedNodes=seednodes.ref
ipAddress=24.70.68.243
outputBandwidthLimit=12288
inputBandwidthLimit=12288
storeSize=5144M
threadFactory=Y
mainport.port=
mainport.bindAddress=*
mainport.allowedHosts=192.168.0.0/24, localhost, ruby
---

network config: router WAN is 24.70.68.243 listening at 2000
directed to local machine 192.168.0.15 at port 2000
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[freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

How can I fix this error that's showing up in my logs very repetitively:

Mar 10, 2004 2:33:00 AM (freenet.node.IPAddressDetector, QThread-89,
ERROR): SocketException t$
java.net.SocketException: Bad address
at java.net.NetworkInterface.getAll(Native Method)
at
java.net.NetworkInterface.getNetworkInterfaces(NetworkInterface.java:204)
at
freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:95)
at
freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:82)
at
freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:56)
at
freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:49)
at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:168)
at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:55)
at
freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.run(StandardMessageHandler.java:210)
at
freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.received(StandardMessageHandler.java:157)
at
freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.access$0(StandardMessageHandler.java)
at
freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler.handle(StandardMessageHandler.java:67)
at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:256)
at
freenet.thread.QThreadFactory$QThread.run(QThreadFactory.java:214)
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 05:28:10PM +, Toad wrote:
> > Is your dialup connection unmetered? If so, you may be able to run a
> > permanent node. Even if you can't, I suggest you run Frost (with a
> > smallish number of threads perhaps), it is good at generating traffic,
> > to help the node learn about the network. In a few days, the node may
> > learn enough to get around the network.

Since I switched to the unstable from the latest stable at least my
conenction failures/to connection successes stays within the same number
of digits.  On the XP machine it was like 2000 failed/60 successful and I
got RNF's like all the time.  I just plopped the unstable JAR onto my
freeBSD install (it's even a slower processor than my parents' XP athlon)
and the connection failures runs closer to 50% rather than 90%.

1. Both systems knew the router WAN IP
2. both systems were 'virtual apped' from the router
3. both systems used the assign virtual app machine
4. both system were properly directed those ports via the router

My XP FRED had an interesting problem too
http://localhost: worked but http://127.x.y.z: didn't
This meant I had to manually open the gateway because the open gateway
option on the system try bunny would alwyas try to go to 127.0.0.1
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> With the the latest stable builds, my "java hanging" problems have gone away
> (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due
> to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been
> worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's
> not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever
> been.
>
> You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't
> need support. :)

I wrote a message of support just a little while back :)
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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Toad wrote:

[ranty stuff edited out]
> > My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last
> > stable builds have been really good already ..

> They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
> unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...

One thing I am liking about Freenet being implemented in Java is that I
can just plot in the .JAR file and get on with my life on an imporved
FreeNet without spending an hour building stuff.  And hooboy did it spend
a long time building to make the system able to run freenet.  Download
this here, that there (actually it was all from sun's site - I want to
shoot their lawyers in a place that would relieve them of their manhood)
put it all in /usr/ports/distfile and start a biuild that would be full of
fireworks and surprises took about 2+ hours on my poor celery 450 FreeBSD
box.  It isn't loading the system too badly (I hope)...
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[freenet-support] REF seeding

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

will running the freenet node over extended periods of time increase the
reliability of the cached seed nodes.  I seem to be in a very unstable
part of the network and I can only seem to get like a 1% success rate on
accesses.  The majority of attempt restart at some stage and other nodes
just totally decline.

If just keeping the node running won't increase reliability is there
another method or utility I can use to find more reliable 'uplink nodes'?

Or is there somethiing I can do in configuration to make things more
tolerant and increases the chances of successfully retries data under
specified keys?
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[freenet-support] REF seeding (fwd)

2004-03-09 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

the list complained about by brians-anime.com domain handled by a
multidomained mailserver (server's name is ruby and it handles mail for
enugen.net and brians-anime.com but idents as ruby.enugen.net) so I had to
resend this with the name my server report rather than the domain I
publish (brian at nospam brians-anime.com) as my email address.

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 11:54:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Christopher Brian Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Freenet Support Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: REF seeding

will running the freenet node over extended periods of time increase the
reliability of the cached seed nodes.  I seem to be in a very unstable
part of the network and I can only seem to get like a 1% success rate on
accesses.  The majority of attempt restart at some stage and other nodes
just totally decline.

If just keeping the node running won't increase reliability is there
another method or utility I can use to find more reliable 'uplink nodes'?

Or is there somethiing I can do in configuration to make things more
tolerant and increases the chances of successfully retries data under
specified keys?
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