Web Worker( was) No more images shown on IMGUR

[Paul Bergsagel]

Is it possible that imgur.com is using web workers (see 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_worker). Many pages failing to work 
with SeaMonkey fail as they are using web worker code on their web page.


If this page is using web workers it has yet to be implemented in 
SeaMonkey and the page will not function properly.  I believe (but not 
sure) that thew web worker technology is presently in the development 
stage for SeaMonkey.


Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi all,

since today my  installation of unofficial (by wg9s) De SeaMonkey 2.53.5 
beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0  (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 Build 20200727210001 (Default Classic Theme) on German WIN7 
64bit has stopped to show single pictures on IMGUR.


Steps how to reproduce:
1. Open https://imgur.com/ in newly created User Profile
    » Shows overview of pictures
2. Click Arbitrary picture of movie like
    
    » Expected: single picture or movie view
  Actual: Black Page. Page Info / Media only shows
  some small Icons, but they also are invisible.

Changing User Agent String without success for now.

Can you reproduce that problem?
Any Ideas concerning roots or WORKAROUND?

CU

Rainer


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Re: start over

[Edward]

Manfred Fedorczuk wrote:

Folks,

my Seamonkey (SM) installation has deteriorated over the years and I 
intend to start over.


I will install a new copy of SM and create the needed profiles (no 
problem).

I will locate the old and the new profile directories (no problem).

My question:
Which parts/files from the old profiles do I need to copy over into the 
new profile directories to keep

  + e-mails
  + bookmarks
  + stored passwords
but nothing else?

In particular, I do not want the old configuration settings or 
add-on-settings to survive.


I use Win 7 Pro and SM 2.53.3.

Thanks, regards
Manfred


I created a new profile today, because of an issue with the uBlock 
Origin Legacy Add-On, after it was removed. The only items that copied 
over successfully from the old profile to the new, were the address book 
and the bookmark backups.


Copying the mail and news folders didn't work, had to add the accounts 
back in.



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Re: Does your SM v2.53.3 get very slow and unresponsolve after using & logging off Gmail.com?

[Edward]

Ant wrote:

On 8/19/2020 4:20 AM, Edward wrote:


I looked at both Firefox and SeaMonkey. The entry for 
browser.cache.memory.capacity is showing '-1' in Firefox. However, in 
SeaMonkey, the same entry shows 'default', 'integer' and '20'.


The information on 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.cache.memory.capacity appears to be 
accurate. So I'm sure there must be some explanation as to why 
'20' is displayed in SeaMonkey rather than '-1' or '0'?


Maybe it is because of the older Gecko version?


Don't know. I changed it to -1 and restarted. Did not notice any 
difference in performance. I assume the '20' reference is 200Mb.


I also made another couple of changes so that it currently uses the 
memory for the cache, instead of the disk, to see how SM performs.



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SeaMonkey 2.53.4 Beta 1 released!

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.4 Beta 4.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am *still* working on it.

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.4b1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.4/




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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 18-08-20 16:37:

 Original Message 

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then 
Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by 
the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully 
function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can 
do all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do 
all this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like 
a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open 
in Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted 
adopting the most current offering from the Macrofirms of the 
digital world, but it has become too burdensome to continue being a 
browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem 
with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not 
work using SM.



Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).


Perhaps you downloaded the proposed executable .exe file and run it.
My way of using zoom is to refuse, but ask the download and at a certain 
moment zoom propose me to work inside the brower.
To see if you can use/open your microphone and camera, could you try 
https://meet.jit.si/RAY-MEETING
When I try this I have in the bottom of the screen this text: "Audio and 
video error: navigator mediaDevices is undefined"
If this is the same ... we have the same problem and you use zoom 
directly by running their program.
Note for Frank-Rainer Grahl who want to  hand me a tissue :-) : I am not 
complaining, it's just to understand why mister "meagain" can use zoom.

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Re: Does your SM v2.53.3 get very slow and unresponsolve after using & logging off Gmail.com?

[Ant]

On 8/19/2020 4:20 AM, Edward wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:


How fast is your internet connection?  If it is high speed you might
find things work faster if you disable the disk cache completely and
have only a memory cache.  Disk access is much slower than memory
access, so swapping and cache retrieval are the major causes of slow
response if you have a high speed connection.


I looked at both Firefox and SeaMonkey. The entry for 
browser.cache.memory.capacity is showing '-1' in Firefox. However, in 
SeaMonkey, the same entry shows 'default', 'integer' and '20'.


The information on 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.cache.memory.capacity appears to be 
accurate. So I'm sure there must be some explanation as to why '20' 
is displayed in SeaMonkey rather than '-1' or '0'?


Maybe it is because of the older Gecko version?
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Re: 2.53.1 build error: NSModules are not ordered appropriately

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Tristan Miller wrote:

Dear all,

I'm attempting to package SeaMonkey 2.53.1 for openSUSE and am running
up against the build error "NSModules are not ordered appropriately".
This is triggered by the script
mozilla/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/check_binary.py, which checks
that symbols have a certain ordering (with
start_kPStaticModules_NSModule at the beginning and
end_kPStaticModules_NSModule at the end).

This same problem was previously reported upstream at
 but seems to have
been solved there long ago.  Web searches indicate that the problem
is/was related to the use of LTO to compile libxul.so, though I'm not
sure if that's the case here.  In theory SeaMonkey itself is now set up
to disable LTO when building libxul.so, though maybe that workaround
isn't getting properly applied in our build?

Any hints or advice would be appreciated.  The following information is
available in case it helps:

A full build log for openSUSE Tumbleweed
(x86_64):  The error
message is on line 80596, near the end of the file.

The mozconfig file: 

The OBS project containing the RPM spec file, patches, etc.:
 



Regards,
Tristan



I am not sure if gcc 9 is already usable. I would suggest using clang 
8 or gcc 8 if possible. Bug 1470127 has been backported but maybe not 
all fixes are currently in the tree. Official mzoconfigs are in Bug 
1612722 but don't look much different. Don't use NSS > 3.48 or you 
will have problems upgrading. Unless you patched the source or use non 
standard build options it no longer builds the dbm backend needed for 
migration.


FRG


Could you check if this helps:
https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c999baadc2d5

FRG


Replying to this so that Eric Rull gets to see it.

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documentation outdated [was Re: Bulding Seamonkey - client.py missing]

[Erik Rull]

Erik Rull wrote:
> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>> Erik Rull wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I tried to build seamonkey from the sources and followed the instructions 
>>> until
>>> this point:
>>>
>>> comm-central$ python client.py checkout
>>> python: can't open file 'client.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
>>>
>>> I checked the cloned repo and there is no client.py existing - of course 
>>> lots of
>>> other .py files but none that would fit the needs... same with the release
>>> repo...
>>>
>>> Where can I get this from?
>>>
>>> When checking for the firefox compilation, the steps are quite similar so I 
>>> fail
>>> at the same step... hg, etc. was installed.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>
>> I can't help directly, but:
>> - It looks as though you are trying to compile for Linux
>> - Have you looked at the thread "2.53.1 build error: NSModules are not 
>> ordered
>> appropriately" by Tristan Miller?  The thread was opened on 3-3-2020.  Don't
>> bother with my contributions there, the FRG ones (+ Tristan's responses) are 
>> key.
>>
> 
> Thanks - but I don'T find the thread, I joined too late to the list and the
> newsgroup archive doesn't seem to be public available.
> 
> Any other description for building the software from sources? So both FF and 
> SM
> seem to be invalid here... The python command definitively points to a file 
> that
> is not existing in the repos. So it's more a question about a broken repo, 
> isn't it?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Erik

Ok, I'm a big step further - the documentation on the seamonkey page is
completely outdated. The common mozilla repos do not contain this script any
longer and / or report this as a no longer supported approach.

So HOW to compile seamonkey for Linux?

There must be a way, otherwise there would not be an installer for Linux :-)

Best regards,

Erik
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

Edward wrote:

Fedora 32, x86_64: seamonkey-2.53.3-3.fc32.x86_64

PID USER  PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ 
COMMAND
4766 edward   20   0 3463452 625444 174552 S   2.7  16.6   7:08.80 
seamonk+


The above is from 'top' as of right now. As I am not on YouTube right 
now and Swap isn't being used, there is /currently/ no slowdown in 
performance.


YouTube also has music. Some individual tracks from albums will also 
display a static video, it's usually the album cover for the duration of 
the track.


Ok that's good info, but you need to show the initial state, and then 
the state after xxx minutes showing the problem.


It sounds like a 'youtube' issue, as opposed to a SeaMonkey issue. You 
need to do the same test with some media that is not on youtube, e.g. 
put it on your own web server. The videos that just show an album cover 
are not music, they are videos, but with just one frame repeated, I'm 
not sure if it plays the same frame thousands of times, or if it somehow 
knows there's only one frame and freezes it, but either way, it's still 
a video.


If you can show that playing a music file in SeaMonkey, that is not on 
youtube, is using progressively more memory as it plays, then that would 
be a serious problem in SeaMonkey. Do you know which libraries SeaMokey 
uses behind the scenes to play media files?


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Re: Bulding Seamonkey - client.py missing

[Erik Rull]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> Erik Rull wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I tried to build seamonkey from the sources and followed the instructions 
>> until
>> this point:
>>
>> comm-central$ python client.py checkout
>> python: can't open file 'client.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
>>
>> I checked the cloned repo and there is no client.py existing - of course 
>> lots of
>> other .py files but none that would fit the needs... same with the release
>> repo...
>>
>> Where can I get this from?
>>
>> When checking for the firefox compilation, the steps are quite similar so I 
>> fail
>> at the same step... hg, etc. was installed.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Erik
>>
> 
> I can't help directly, but:
> - It looks as though you are trying to compile for Linux
> - Have you looked at the thread "2.53.1 build error: NSModules are not ordered
> appropriately" by Tristan Miller?  The thread was opened on 3-3-2020.  Don't
> bother with my contributions there, the FRG ones (+ Tristan's responses) are 
> key.
> 

Thanks - but I don'T find the thread, I joined too late to the list and the
newsgroup archive doesn't seem to be public available.

Any other description for building the software from sources? So both FF and SM
seem to be invalid here... The python command definitively points to a file that
is not existing in the repos. So it's more a question about a broken repo, 
isn't it?

Best regards,

Erik
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Re: Verizon.com Web Site SM 2.53.3 Win10Pro

[NFN Smith]

bono1...@gmailo.com wrote:
Hello all when trying to access verizon.com website, it hangs using 
usually after the the first page.


I have no issues when using Chrome 84.0.44147.125.

Any ideas or suggestions as to the issues and how to overcome?


You're talking https://verizon.com/ right?  I'm not finding any problems 
there or on a couple of the links that I tried.


See what happens when you clear your cache and cookies.

Smith

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Re: Bulding Seamonkey - client.py missing

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

I tried to build seamonkey from the sources and followed the instructions until
this point:

comm-central$ python client.py checkout
python: can't open file 'client.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory

I checked the cloned repo and there is no client.py existing - of course lots of
other .py files but none that would fit the needs... same with the release 
repo...

Where can I get this from?

When checking for the firefox compilation, the steps are quite similar so I fail
at the same step... hg, etc. was installed.

Thanks!

Best regards,

Erik



I can't help directly, but:
- It looks as though you are trying to compile for Linux
- Have you looked at the thread "2.53.1 build error: NSModules are not 
ordered appropriately" by Tristan Miller?  The thread was opened on 
3-3-2020.  Don't bother with my contributions there, the FRG ones (+ 
Tristan's responses) are key.


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Re: Does your SM v2.53.3 get very slow and unresponsolve after using & logging off Gmail.com?

[Edward]

Edward wrote:

Edward wrote:

Edward wrote:

In my case, I have 3.6Gb of memory. Recently installed uBlock Origin, 
but am going to remove it to see if it makes a difference here.


I removed the uBlock Origin legacy add-on obtained from github via a 
link in this newsgroup. Noticed afterwards that even after removal, 
some ads were still being blocked.


The add-on added four entries to the config file (search for 
'ublock'), once removed by resetting them and relaunching SeaMonkey, 
some ads continue to be blocked.


It would appear that once this add-on is removed, there are remnants 
of it still installed.


I tested this against https://canyoublockit.com/ and the results 
indicated there is still an ad-blocker installed, so removing that 
add-on, did NOT remove all remnants of it.


WARNING: There are two options at Cam You Block It. Please be aware that 
choosing their Extreme Test will display/load pop-ups that are NSFW (not 
suitable for work)!


Their Simple Test did not display the described pop-ups.


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Slugracing]

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


Should I hand you a tissue so that you can whine quietly and in
private?


He is telling you he has an issue, just like most of us do. Flipping
him off like that is child like.

I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
this its slow as a wet week.

None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
ram for the same sites open.

Thanks


Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
it a distribution-compiled version?



Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from 
seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes



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Re: Does your SM v2.53.3 get very slow and unresponsolve after using & logging off Gmail.com?

[Edward]

Edward wrote:

Edward wrote:

In my case, I have 3.6Gb of memory. Recently installed uBlock Origin, 
but am going to remove it to see if it makes a difference here.


I removed the uBlock Origin legacy add-on obtained from github via a 
link in this newsgroup. Noticed afterwards that even after removal, some 
ads were still being blocked.


The add-on added four entries to the config file (search for 'ublock'), 
once removed by resetting them and relaunching SeaMonkey, some ads 
continue to be blocked.


It would appear that once this add-on is removed, there are remnants of 
it still installed.


I tested this against https://canyoublockit.com/ and the results 
indicated there is still an ad-blocker installed, so removing that 
add-on, did NOT remove all remnants of it.




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Re: Does your SM v2.53.3 get very slow and unresponsolve after using & logging off Gmail.com?

[Edward]

Edward wrote:

In my case, I have 3.6Gb of memory. Recently installed uBlock Origin, 
but am going to remove it to see if it makes a difference here.


I removed the uBlock Origin legacy add-on obtained from github via a 
link in this newsgroup. Noticed afterwards that even after removal, some 
ads were still being blocked.


The add-on added four entries to the config file (search for 'ublock'), 
once removed by resetting them and relaunching SeaMonkey, some ads 
continue to be blocked.


It would appear that once this add-on is removed, there are remnants of 
it still installed.


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Verizon.com Web Site SM 2.53.3 Win10Pro

[boNO1953]

Hello all when trying to access verizon.com website, it hangs using 
usually after the the first page.


I have no issues when using Chrome 84.0.44147.125.

Any ideas or suggestions as to the issues and how to overcome?

TIA...

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Bulding Seamonkey - client.py missing

[Erik Rull]

Hi all,

I tried to build seamonkey from the sources and followed the instructions until
this point:

comm-central$ python client.py checkout
python: can't open file 'client.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory

I checked the cloned repo and there is no client.py existing - of course lots of
other .py files but none that would fit the needs... same with the release 
repo...

Where can I get this from?

When checking for the firefox compilation, the steps are quite similar so I fail
at the same step... hg, etc. was installed.

Thanks!

Best regards,

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Re: Does your SM v2.53.3 get very slow and unresponsolve after using & logging off Gmail.com?

[Edward]

David H. Durgee wrote:


How fast is your internet connection?  If it is high speed you might
find things work faster if you disable the disk cache completely and
have only a memory cache.  Disk access is much slower than memory
access, so swapping and cache retrieval are the major causes of slow
response if you have a high speed connection.


I looked at both Firefox and SeaMonkey. The entry for 
browser.cache.memory.capacity is showing '-1' in Firefox. However, in 
SeaMonkey, the same entry shows 'default', 'integer' and '20'.


The information on 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.cache.memory.capacity appears to be 
accurate. So I'm sure there must be some explanation as to why '20' 
is displayed in SeaMonkey rather than '-1' or '0'?




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Seamonkey tabbed-browsing

[Seamonkey]

Hallo,

wo kann man bitte die Funktion ausschalten, das jeder Tab ein eigenes
Fenster in der Taskleiste hat?

Soll das ein tolles Feature sein?
Ich finde das echt nervig und macht mir das Arbeiten mit dem sonst guten
Browser zur Qual.
Wieso kann man diese Einstellung, falls vorhanden nicht gut kenzeichnen?

Bitte um baldige Antwort, sonst fliegt er runter!!!

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*Senior network engineer*
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SeaMonkey 2.53.3 Won't Open

[Michael F. Simon]

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.53.3 on my iMac running Catalina. After 
putting the app in the Applications folder, double clicking it produced 
an Alert, of which the attachment is a picture. It's apparently not at 
the the Mac App Store. How can I download a copy of SeaMonkey 2.53.3 
which meets Apple's requirements for its opening?


Thanks for any help you can give me.

Mike Simon
Portage MI
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signatures

[m swallow MMF]

sorry to show ignorance, but the signature field layout is very restrictive.
why can't i just use my own layout?

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Programming Question: 8-9-20

[Hugo F Spidalieri Jr]

Dear Sea Monkey:

I have been loyal and avid user and advocate of the SeaMonkey client 
server ever since Netscape went out of business.


I currently run the SM email on my win10 PRO system using  v.2.53.3.

I recently had to have my entire operating system reinstalled due to a 
bad win update and when I reinstalled the SM email app


I lost the function when replying to emails that places the date and 
time in the header of the email sent. (ie On 8-9-20 @ 4:01 PM Jon Doe 
wrote)...


I had found the option to turn this function on some months ago and now 
cannot remember where in the email app it is or how to re-engage it.


Could you please direct and assist me so that I can turn this feature 
back on!


Much appreciated and thank you for a GREAT product!

Respectfully,
H Spidalieri
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signatures

[m swallow MMF]

  
  

sorry to show ignorance, but i can't see how to get a signature to
show at end of an email message, it's not indexed in help?


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The Horizontal Preference/Options panels are gone

[Edward Kostyk]

Hi,

   Sorry to say, but I'm probably the worst Ludite known, (worst
speller too).  I hope at least one of you (who is reading this), isn't
going to give up on me.
I think I have version 1.39 (the "Help"  button usually shows it, but my
"Help" button has disappeared, together with the ones noted below:

   My problem is that the Preference panel/options (usually the top
list - "View", "File", Help", etc., etc.,) has disappeared.
   I've clicked on every tiny arrow head without any success.
   All I have across the top now are "Get", "Msgs", "Compose", "Reply",
etc., etc.,
   When I click on "Reply", I get a blank e-mail ready to be filled,
but no "Send" button or anything else along the top.

   I hope this is just a matter of "settings" & finding the right tiny,
tiny, arrow head.

Keep safe,
Ed
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Sync feature.

[Martin C Foster]

Hello Support,

I like your project, particularly the email client.
I am using the following version: 2.53.3 Linux x64

I am missing the sync option.
Your web site: https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/sync describes 
setting up sync, but there is no such menu option on the tools menu. Is 
there a way to setup sync?


Thanks,
Chris

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Re:Trying to install SeaMonkey on a "back to factory settings" desktop.

[Carol]

  
  
Hi,
  
  My REALLY old HP desktop was wiped out... i called on a Microsoft
  Certified Engineer to get it back, but in the main everything
  failed.  However, as i am a MBCS CITP MISM, i thought that i
  should give it a go... and yes... it worked!  However, i cannot
  find a version of SeaMonkey, which is on all of my other network
  devices, that will work.  The MCE installed 2.53, despite that i
  said that the last to work was 2.49.?
  
  Your website information says to install 2.48 manually over my
  existing installation, but i cannot do this as it will not install
  (using Custom Settings or Standard), without closing the existing
  version of SeaMonkey... so no manual options available.
  
  Can you please advise me on the version i should try, that will
  work?
  
  Very Kind Regards,
  Carol McLean. MBCS CITP MISM.
  

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**********urgent and desperate request for assistance Seamonkey issue

[Eric Appleman]

I run an educational website on U.S. presidential campaigns
www.p2020.us

For over a decade I have used SeaMonkey 2.014 as a composer to update the
website daily.  (previously I used Netscape Composer).

I use that old version because it doesn't have a lot of unnecessary bells
and whistles and produces a small file size when saving.

I have run into a problem which is seriously jeopardizing my continued work
on this project and would appreciate any *assistance anyone  can
provide to resolve this.

The Seamonkey browser is working fine.  It pulls up various pages EXCEPT
when I enter my url (www.p2020.us or https://www.democracyinaction.us/) to
try to update pages I get the message

*Connection interrupted*
*The document contains no data.*
*The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. *


I don't think it is a server issue.  Other websites I run on the same
server pull up fine: www.p2016.org, etc.

I am not technically inclined but have tried Clear Cache as described here
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Error_loading_websites

If anyone has any ideas, please email or call

Eric M. Appleman
Democracy in Action
c. 310 496-9633
actio...@gmail.com
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Re: No more images shown on IMGUR

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

oersted wrote:

On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:43:32 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld
 wrote:

.
Steps how to reproduce:
1. Open https://imgur.com/ in newly created User Profile
.
Rainer


Ditto, plus FF 68.11.0esr fails the same way too.



FF 78.1.0esr works as it should, the pictures are very visible.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-08-19, Ray_Net wrote:

> meagain wrote on 18-08-20 16:37:
>>  Original Message 
>>> EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:
 Lance Courtland wrote:
> It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web
> browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then
> Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed
> by the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs,
> and kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully
> function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.
>
> Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a
> burden. SM seems to have been brought down by the difference
> between "you can do all this to make it work however you want"
> and "you have to do all this to make it work at all."
>
> I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of
> developers have put in to keep SM alive.
>
> I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I
> like a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM
> Email open in Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always
> resisted adopting the most current offering from the Macrofirms
> of the digital world, but it has become too burdensome to
> continue being a browser salmon.
>
> Parting is such sweet sorrow.
>
> Lance

 Why use Chrome? 
>>> Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem
>>> with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did
>>> not work using SM.
>>>
>> Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).
>>
> This is my User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3
> and zoom, nor other online-meeting are working. Perhaps is because you
> use the 64 version ? I have installed the 32 bits)

meagain's User-Agent string in the newsgroup post seems to be identical
to yours, so it looks like [1] you're both using 32-bit builds.

[1] Unless there is any User-Agent spoofing, or a different SeaMonkey
version is being used to participate in this group/list.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-08-18, Edward wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>
>> Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
>> it a distribution-compiled version?
>>
>> If it is a distribution version, can you please see if the same happens
>> with the binaries from the project website?
>
> I have noticed increased memory usage with SeaMonkey, using the
> Fedora-supplied package, when listening to music either through
> YouTube or a web site, after it's been running for a while.

Can you reproduce this easily and consistently? Does it happen with all
videos or just with specific videos?

> This could actually be something Linux is doing relating to the usage
> of memory, because I have seen the exact same issue occur with other
> web browsers, not just SeaMonkey. After a while, the Swap partition
> becomes active, then there is a noticeable slowdown of the system.

If you can reproduce this easily and you're able to give a try to the
version from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/, it would be good to
know whether it behaves in the same way or not.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 18-08-20 16:37:

 Original Message 

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then 
Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by 
the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully 
function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can 
do all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do 
all this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like 
a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open 
in Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted 
adopting the most current offering from the Macrofirms of the 
digital world, but it has become too burdensome to continue being a 
browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem 
with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not 
work using SM.



Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).

This is my User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3
and zoom, nor other online-meeting are working. Perhaps is because you 
use the 64 version ? I have installed the 32 bits)

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Re: unread message filter?

[Daniel]

Rink wrote on 19/08/2020 6:05 AM:

Op 27-7-2020 om 0:07 schreef Ronnie:

Is there a way to create a filter to delete unread emails?


Yes, uninstall your e-mail program.
And do not install another e-mail program.


No! ;-P That would stop Ronnie from reading *ANY* of the e-mails! ;-)

If Ronnie doesn't want to read e-mails from a specific e-mail address 
or, I suppose, even from a particular server, Ronnie should be able to 
create a filter for the purpose as suggested by Paul in Houston and Mike.

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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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