Re: UA Spoofing.

2010-08-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/28/10 7:43 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
 Manuel Reimer wrote:
 Robert Kaiser wrote:
 Actually, as much as I hate appending Firefox to any UA string of
 browsers that are not Firefox, I just filed a bug to make any Gecko that
 not has Firefox in its UA string right now to send one in the future.

 I don't think this is a good idea. Webmasters should learn to match for
 Gecko.

 Yours

 Manue
   While that is noble thought. The reality is, most webmasters for most 
 commercial Sites don't give a rats behind. The will sniff on FireFox not 
 gecko. In fact I would be shocked and surprised in most even know 
 anything about w3c or what gecko is.
 

It's more than a noble thought.  The tracking bug for bad sniffing --
bug #334967 -- depends on 208 specific bug reports about individual
cases of bad sniffing.  37 of of those specific bug reports have been
closed, indicating that Web masters do indeed learn that Gecko is Gecko.

18 of the specific bug reports were either duplicates, invalid, or
Works for Me.  That means there are 190 valid specific bug reports,
19% of which were fixed.  If even a slight effort were made to
communicate proper sniffing -- and the possibility that sniffing is not
needed at all -- many more of the valid bug reports would also be fixed.

I'm not convinced that the changes in presenting the UA string (based on
bug #572650?) will really solve the problems of invalid sniffing.  If
Firefox is always appended to the UA string, it is more likely that
Web masters will conclude SeaMonkey is no longer in use.

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Re: SMTP problem -- who's at fault?

2010-08-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

W3BNR wrote:


Set up a new SMTP account by going to Edit/MailNewsgroup Account
Settings/Outgoing Server (SMTP)/Add

Call it Alias and set it as the above, ie:

Description: Alias
Server Name: outgoing.verizon.net
Port: 587
User Name: Joe.example (note: not joe.exam...@verizon.net)
Secure Authentication: No
Connection Security: None

Now set up a new account using Edit/MailNewsgroup Account Settings/Add
Account

Call the account Alias and fill in what you want (name  e-mail address
- must be a valid e-mail address) and go down to the 'Outgoing server'
box and select Alias.

This should work with Verizon FIOS.



I forgot the MOST important thing. In the new Outgoing Server, 'Alias',
the User name MUST be your friends FIOS user name - NOT YOUR name.


OK, tried this, but the moment I clear the security/authentication 
checkbox, SM also clears the username. When I check the box again, the 
field remains blank (it really did forget the username).


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Re: UA Spoofing.

2010-08-29 Thread Georg Maaß
When my XulRunner applications starts spamming Firefox UA telling a lie 
to the world, I will start FF spoofing on my web sites to ban all UAs 
containing FireFox.


I hate FireFox. I do not accept UA containing FireFox, if it is not a 
FireFox but only uses the Mozilla toolkit.


It is ok, if the user can configure site by site to append that stupid 
keyword for compatibility with sites of stupid site authors, but this 
should not be the default but should be done for each site separately.


My favorite is SM, which is the only real mozilla. Where I have the 
choice I always use SM, never FF.

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Re: SMTP problem -- who's at fault?

2010-08-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

W3BNR wrote:


Set up a new SMTP account by going to Edit/MailNewsgroup Account
Settings/Outgoing Server (SMTP)/Add

Call it Alias and set it as the above, ie:

Description: Alias
Server Name: outgoing.verizon.net
Port: 587
User Name: Joe.example (note: not joe.exam...@verizon.net)
Secure Authentication: No
Connection Security: None

Now set up a new account using Edit/MailNewsgroup Account Settings/Add
Account

Call the account Alias and fill in what you want (name  e-mail address
- must be a valid e-mail address) and go down to the 'Outgoing server'
box and select Alias.

This should work with Verizon FIOS.



I forgot the MOST important thing. In the new Outgoing Server, 'Alias',
the User name MUST be your friends FIOS user name - NOT YOUR name.


OK, tried this, but the moment I clear the security/authentication
checkbox, SM also clears the username. When I check the box again, the
field remains blank (it really did forget the username).


OK, got it to work. Used one of the kids' accounts and his PW.

Thanks much.

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Re: UA Spoofing.

2010-08-29 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
In mozilla.support.seamonkey, Georg Maaß wrote:

 When my XulRunner applications starts spamming Firefox UA telling a
 lie to the world, I will start FF spoofing on my web sites to ban all
 UAs containing FireFox.

One hopes you are talking about your personal web sites, not business
ones. It would be a silly business model to turn away a quarter of your
business. Or ... if you are writing business sites for clients, do they
know of your plan to reduce their profits?

 I hate FireFox. I do not accept UA containing FireFox, if it is not a
 FireFox but only uses the Mozilla toolkit. 

But what is the need to inflict your personal problems on your visitors?

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Re: SMTP problem -- who's at fault?

2010-08-29 Thread Arnie Goetchius

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

W3BNR wrote:


Set up a new SMTP account by going to Edit/MailNewsgroup Account
Settings/Outgoing Server (SMTP)/Add

Call it Alias and set it as the above, ie:

Description: Alias
Server Name: outgoing.verizon.net
Port: 587
User Name: Joe.example (note: not joe.exam...@verizon.net)
Secure Authentication: No
Connection Security: None

Now set up a new account using Edit/MailNewsgroup Account Settings/Add
Account

Call the account Alias and fill in what you want (name  e-mail address
- must be a valid e-mail address) and go down to the 'Outgoing server'
box and select Alias.

This should work with Verizon FIOS.



I forgot the MOST important thing. In the new Outgoing Server, 'Alias',
the User name MUST be your friends FIOS user name - NOT YOUR name.


OK, tried this, but the moment I clear the security/authentication
checkbox, SM also clears the username. When I check the box again, the
field remains blank (it really did forget the username).


OK, got it to work. Used one of the kids' accounts and his PW.

Thanks much.

I glad you got something working but you shouldn't have to use Verizon's 
email servers at all. My daughter comes here periodically and uses her 
laptop to connect to her email server (pop.att.yahoo.com and 
smtp.att.yahoo.com) and has no problem downloading and sending email 
from the yahoo server. You ought to be able to set up SM to access your 
hughesnet servers the same way so you don't have to fuss with your 
host's servers at all.


One thing that messed me up when I first started setting up my POP and 
SMTP servers was that I when tried to send an email, I was using the 
wrong From: in the email message. On the far right side of the 
From:, click on the down arrow and make sure you are using correct one 
for the email server you have selected.

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Re: UA Spoofing.

2010-08-29 Thread Georg Maaß

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

But what is the need to inflict your personal problems on your visitors?


Exactly this is, what stupid web authors do with UA name spoofing 
instead of doing needed feature testing.


Firefox is an enemy, because it is an egoist make a lot of unnecessary 
trouble to all the other applications built on top of toolkit, because 
there are often compatibility issues caused by changes made for FF.


Toolkit is not developed straight forward, but is developed with FF 
focus only.


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Re: SMTP problem -- who's at fault?

2010-08-29 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
W3BNR wrote:

 Yes, that would be true if he were using his laptop.  As I understood
 the problem was that he was using someone else's computer and wanted
 to use his own e-mail without going to his web e-mail account.

Heh, if a guest in my house wanted to check his/her email, I would log
on to the Guest account and give them a browser. Nothing else.

This just happened a couple weeks ago. My wife's long time friend from
high school was visiting from out-of-state. She has an AOL account. No
way was she going to be polluting *my* account with that crap!

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save as txt

2010-08-29 Thread Smiles
Good day in 1.1.X I was able to save as text and it would add txt to 
file name now I have to manually change it


is there a way to automatically have it change when saving an email to a 
text file


thanks
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Re: UA Spoofing.

2010-08-29 Thread Phillip Jones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/28/10 7:43 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Manuel Reimer wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Actually, as much as I hate appending Firefox to any UA string of
browsers that are not Firefox, I just filed a bug to make any Gecko that
not has Firefox in its UA string right now to send one in the future.


I don't think this is a good idea. Webmasters should learn to match for
Gecko.

Yours

Manue

   While that is noble thought. The reality is, most webmasters for most
commercial Sites don't give a rats behind. The will sniff on FireFox not
gecko. In fact I would be shocked and surprised in most even know
anything about w3c or what gecko is.



It's more than a noble thought.  The tracking bug for bad sniffing --
bug #334967 -- depends on 208 specific bug reports about individual
cases of bad sniffing.  37 of of those specific bug reports have been
closed, indicating that Web masters do indeed learn that Gecko is Gecko.

18 of the specific bug reports were either duplicates, invalid, or
Works for Me.  That means there are 190 valid specific bug reports,
19% of which were fixed.  If even a slight effort were made to
communicate proper sniffing -- and the possibility that sniffing is not
needed at all -- many more of the valid bug reports would also be fixed.

I'm not convinced that the changes in presenting the UA string (based on
bug #572650?) will really solve the problems of invalid sniffing.  If
Firefox is always appended to the UA string, it is more likely that
Web masters will conclude SeaMonkey is no longer in use.

I had a battle with my Bank's Website Suntrust for two years. trying to 
get them first to even acknowledge Mozilla products newer than Mozilla. 
 Finally they did switch to add support for Firefox. however to this 
day there sniffing code is /FireFox, not  /gecko


Until I switched over to SM 2, I had to add /not FireFox/2.0 then 
eventuality version number I updated to latest version I was using.  I 
think I reported several times about Suntrust. I don't know if I 
reported to right place or not since I I used the report a broken 
website feature which we all discovered that no one at mozilla had even 
been looking at the reports from the time the feature was put in. Lack 
of interest reading the reports.


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Re: SMTP problem -- who's at fault?

2010-08-29 Thread Arnie Goetchius

W3BNR wrote:

After much thought Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

W3BNR wrote:


Set up a new SMTP account by going to Edit/MailNewsgroup Account
Settings/Outgoing Server (SMTP)/Add

Call it Alias and set it as the above, ie:

Description: Alias
Server Name: outgoing.verizon.net
Port: 587
User Name: Joe.example (note: not joe.exam...@verizon.net)
Secure Authentication: No
Connection Security: None

Now set up a new account using Edit/MailNewsgroup Account
Settings/Add
Account

Call the account Alias and fill in what you want (name  e-mail
address
- must be a valid e-mail address) and go down to the 'Outgoing
server'
box and select Alias.

This should work with Verizon FIOS.



I forgot the MOST important thing. In the new Outgoing Server,
'Alias',
the User name MUST be your friends FIOS user name - NOT YOUR name.


OK, tried this, but the moment I clear the security/authentication
checkbox, SM also clears the username. When I check the box again, the
field remains blank (it really did forget the username).


OK, got it to work. Used one of the kids' accounts and his PW.

Thanks much.


I glad you got something working but you shouldn't have to use Verizon's
email servers at all. My daughter comes here periodically and uses her
laptop to connect to her email server (pop.att.yahoo.com and
smtp.att.yahoo.com) and has no problem downloading and sending email
from the yahoo server. You ought to be able to set up SM to access your
hughesnet servers the same way so you don't have to fuss with your
host's servers at all.

One thing that messed me up when I first started setting up my POP and
SMTP servers was that I when tried to send an email, I was using the
wrong From: in the email message. On the far right side of the
From:, click on the down arrow and make sure you are using correct one
for the email server you have selected.


Yes, that would be true if he were using his laptop. As I understood the
problem was that he was using someone else's computer and wanted to use
his own e-mail without going to his web e-mail account.


Per his original message, he is using his own laptop as stated below:

Yesterday, I packed up my fully functional laptop with SM 1.1.16 and 
brought it to a different location, where we plugged an Ethernet cable 
into my host's Verizon FiOS router. I can browse, receive mail, and post 
to NGs, but not send POP3 mail. 


He can't do that using the FIOS default for port 25. He has to set up as
I mentioned to port 587 to use accounts that are not registered with
Verizon. ie. my account is w3...@verizon.net via port 25. If I wanted to
use w3...@mail.com (which is a valid address) I would have to use port
587 and in the SMTP server use my Verizon user, not the user I would use
at mail.com.



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Re: SMTP problem -- who's at fault?

2010-08-29 Thread Arnie Goetchius

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

W3BNR wrote:


Yes, that would be true if he were using his laptop.  As I understood
the problem was that he was using someone else's computer and wanted
to use his own e-mail without going to his web e-mail account.


Heh, if a guest in my house wanted to check his/her email, I would log
on to the Guest account and give them a browser. Nothing else.

This just happened a couple weeks ago. My wife's long time friend from
high school was visiting from out-of-state. She has an AOL account. No
way was she going to be polluting *my* account with that crap!

Agree. My daughter has no idea what my Verizon email is. She does not 
need to know.

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Left and right arrow keys to go to previous/next.

2010-08-29 Thread Ant

Hi!

I am starting to noticed that more and more web sites are supporting and 
using left and right arrow keys to go previous and next pages/images.


For an example:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/26/google-acquisitions-timeline_n_696063.html

I click left arrow to a previous article and right arrow for the next 
article. I see this in both Mozilla's Firefox v2.0.0.20 (probably the 
same in v3.6.8) and SeaMonkey v2.0.6 web browsers. I could not reproduce 
this is in old Internet Explorer v6 (IE6).


Is there a way to disable this annoyance? I use keyboard a lot to 
navigate online, including web sites.


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Change Font Color???

2010-08-29 Thread chicagofan

Willard wrote:

In the Browser home page  other web sites, is there a way to change the
display window print characters??
1.)Font to Bold?
2.)Color to Black?
   


I haven't found a way to consistently change fonts, but setting my color 
preferences under Edit/Preferences/Colors works for me.  I check Use my 
chosen colors and uncheck Use system settings.   However, I use a 
different background color and font color everywhere.  It's easier on my 
eyes.  :)


There are very few pages where something won't show, and I have to 
change the settings to read.  You could experiment with this, just 
checking to use your settings, because black is already set as the 
default font, and see what happens.

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Re: Left and right arrow keys to go to previous/next.

2010-08-29 Thread Ant

On 8/29/2010 9:21 AM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


I am starting to noticed that more and more web sites are supporting and
using left and right arrow keys to go previous and next pages/images.

For an example:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/26/google-acquisitions-timeline_n_696063.html



I click left arrow to a previous article and right arrow for the next
article. I see this in both Mozilla's Firefox v2.0.0.20 (probably the
same in v3.6.8) and SeaMonkey v2.0.6 web browsers. I could not reproduce
this is in old Internet Explorer v6 (IE6).

Is there a way to disable this annoyance? I use keyboard a lot to
navigate online, including web sites.


Not really. It's done with javascript. You could disable javascript but
you'd then have no way at all to navigate the articles.


Ugh, how annoying. :( Thanks! It also doesn't help when I have small 
displays like netbooks, old laptops/notebooks, etc. Grr!

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Re: UA Spoofing.

2010-08-29 Thread Robert Kaiser

Manuel Reimer schrieb:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Actually, as much as I hate appending Firefox to any UA string of
browsers that are not Firefox, I just filed a bug to make any Gecko that
not has Firefox in its UA string right now to send one in the future.


I don't think this is a good idea. Webmasters should learn to match for
Gecko.


I agree that they should, but in reality they don't and nobody has 
enough time and possibilities to get them do it. Above all that, we have 
too many other things to do and SeaMonkey not working with a lot of 
websites is significantly hurting us, esp. in markets where we are even 
weaker than in Germany - i.e. in 90% of the world.


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Re: UA Spoofing.

2010-08-29 Thread Robert Kaiser

Georg Maaß schrieb:

When my XulRunner applications starts spamming Firefox UA telling a lie
to the world, I will start FF spoofing on my web sites to ban all UAs
containing FireFox.


Please do that.


I hate FireFox.


Then stop using Gecko, as Gecko isn't nothing more than the Firefox web 
rendering engine nowadays.


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Re: UA Spoofing.

2010-08-29 Thread Robert Kaiser

Phillip Jones schrieb:

Finally they did switch to add support for Firefox. however to this day
there sniffing code is /FireFox, not /gecko


Welcome to our world! :-/

To Georg, Manuel, and others who are affronting me over bug 591617 and 
things like that, this is just one very small case of those things 
happening in the real world. As much as we all hate bad sniffing, it's a 
very common reality (even more so than those sites sniffing for pre 
and handing out a mobile site for Palm Pre or a non-working site when 
detecting it, and for which we probably will be changing the UAs of all 
Mozilla products).


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Re: Uninstall v.1 after upgrade?

2010-08-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Just upgraded from v. 1.1.16 to 2.0.6, and it seemed to go smoothly --
most everything was seamlessly imported, even down to my global Windows
shortcut that launches the program.

After poking around the program and reading the release notes, I have
two questions:

1) Is it safe to uninstall v. 1.1.16 through the uninstall link at Set
Program Access and Defaults?

2) How can I show my sigs at the bottom of the composition window?

Thanks.


1) Yes it is, but it's my understanding that when you install SM 2, it
makes a copy of your SM 1.x profile, so when you un-install SM 1.x, you
may want to delete (or at least archive), one of the profile copies.


Not precisely a copy, but yes, I can see the whole new profile in a 
separate directory.



2) Create yourself a sig file and save it somewhere then, in SM have a
look at Edit- MailNews group account settings, and, on the Account
Settings page for the server, select Attach the signature from a file
instead, and point to the file that you just saved.


I also discovered that all my sigs were missing because they pointed to 
the new directory where they were not located instead of the old 
directory where they still resided. So I copied them into the new 
directory and they magically reappeared. Still, SM 2 seems to forget 
to add a sig when I forward a message, unless there's an option for 
that. I have to manually copy/paste it to forwarded messages, either 
inline or as attachment.


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Re: SMTP problem -- who's at fault?

2010-08-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

OK, got it to work. Used one of the kids' accounts and his PW.

Thanks much.


I glad you got something working but you shouldn't have to use Verizon's
email servers at all. My daughter comes here periodically and uses her
laptop to connect to her email server (pop.att.yahoo.com and
smtp.att.yahoo.com) and has no problem downloading and sending email
from the yahoo server. You ought to be able to set up SM to access your
hughesnet servers the same way so you don't have to fuss with your
host's servers at all.


Agree completely. Can't imagine why they're insisting that I use their 
resources when I want to use someone else's.



One thing that messed me up when I first started setting up my POP and
SMTP servers was that I when tried to send an email, I was using the
wrong From: in the email message. On the far right side of the
From:, click on the down arrow and make sure you are using correct one
for the email server you have selected.


I've been using several accounts on different servers for years, and I 
have separate sigs and everything all set up and I'm familiar with how 
to do it. One thing that surprised me about ATT's new setup was that 
they also insisted I use their SMTP server when I dialed in from a 
remote location, but refused to let me send from a non-ATT account. So 
when I leave the house, they say I can only use my ATT account, which 
is less than 1% of my usage. Completely defeats the purpose of having an 
account with them, so I'm gonna drop them. I even had some bozo from 
advanced support waste a half-hour of my time jumping through hoops to 
make it possible to ... be unable to use other accounts.


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Re: SMTP problem -- who's at fault?

2010-08-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

W3BNR wrote:

After much thought Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

W3BNR wrote:


Set up a new SMTP account by going to Edit/MailNewsgroup Account
Settings/Outgoing Server (SMTP)/Add

Call it Alias and set it as the above, ie:

Description: Alias
Server Name: outgoing.verizon.net
Port: 587
User Name: Joe.example (note: not joe.exam...@verizon.net)
Secure Authentication: No
Connection Security: None

Now set up a new account using Edit/MailNewsgroup Account
Settings/Add
Account

Call the account Alias and fill in what you want (name  e-mail
address
- must be a valid e-mail address) and go down to the 'Outgoing
server'
box and select Alias.

This should work with Verizon FIOS.



I forgot the MOST important thing. In the new Outgoing Server,
'Alias',
the User name MUST be your friends FIOS user name - NOT YOUR name.


OK, tried this, but the moment I clear the security/authentication
checkbox, SM also clears the username. When I check the box again, the
field remains blank (it really did forget the username).


OK, got it to work. Used one of the kids' accounts and his PW.

Thanks much.


I glad you got something working but you shouldn't have to use Verizon's
email servers at all. My daughter comes here periodically and uses her
laptop to connect to her email server (pop.att.yahoo.com and
smtp.att.yahoo.com) and has no problem downloading and sending email
from the yahoo server. You ought to be able to set up SM to access your
hughesnet servers the same way so you don't have to fuss with your
host's servers at all.

One thing that messed me up when I first started setting up my POP and
SMTP servers was that I when tried to send an email, I was using the
wrong From: in the email message. On the far right side of the
From:, click on the down arrow and make sure you are using correct one
for the email server you have selected.


Yes, that would be true if he were using his laptop. As I understood the
problem was that he was using someone else's computer and wanted to use
his own e-mail without going to his web e-mail account.


Yes, I am using my own laptop, not my host's computer. And pretending 
I'm his kid works.



He can't do that using the FIOS default for port 25. He has to set up as
I mentioned to port 587 to use accounts that are not registered with
Verizon. ie. my account is w3...@verizon.net via port 25. If I wanted to
use w3...@mail.com (which is a valid address) I would have to use port
587 and in the SMTP server use my Verizon user, not the user I would use
at mail.com.


Yep. Thanks,

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Re: Change Font Color???

2010-08-29 Thread Willard

chicagofan wrote:

Willard wrote:

In the Browser home page  other web sites, is there a way to change the
display window print characters??
1.)Font to Bold?
2.)Color to Black?
   


I haven't found a way to consistently change fonts, but setting my color 
preferences under Edit/Preferences/Colors works for me.  I check Use my 
chosen colors and uncheck Use system settings.   However, I use a 
different background color and font color everywhere.  It's easier on my 
eyes.  :)


There are very few pages where something won't show, and I have to 
change the settings to read.  You could experiment with this, just 
checking to use your settings, because black is already set as the 
default font, and see what happens.

bj


Thanks,but I have tried to set colors to my chosen colors black on 
white, but aol.com still comes up with blue print??

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Re: bug in Seamonkey 2.0.6

2010-08-29 Thread denewton

denewton a écrit :

Ed Mullen a écrit :

NON! Firefox/3.6 - c'est SeaMonkey!

Hello,
That does'nt run, the second tab is named chargement ... and not
nouveau message as with firefox : that seams to be that this tab
doesn't finish to charge the page completly.
Bedrtrand

Ed Muller, c'était presque ça, mais avec

about:config
general.useragent.extra.notfirefox
NOT Firefox/3.5

That run with this solution given by Robert Kaiser.
Thanks all body.
Bertrand
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Re: Left and right arrow keys to go to previous/next.

2010-08-29 Thread »Q«
In news:zemdnuitpfljgefrnz2dnuvz_ssdn...@mozilla.org,
Ant a...@zimage.comant wrote:
 
 I am starting to noticed that more and more web sites are supporting
 and using left and right arrow keys to go previous and next
 pages/images.
 
 For an example:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/26/google-acquisitions-timeline_n_696063.html
 
 I click left arrow to a previous article and right arrow for the next 
 article. I see this in both Mozilla's Firefox v2.0.0.20 (probably the 
 same in v3.6.8) and SeaMonkey v2.0.6 web browsers. I could not
 reproduce this is in old Internet Explorer v6 (IE6).
 
 Is there a way to disable this annoyance? I use keyboard a lot to 
 navigate online, including web sites.

As Ed says, it's javascript.  Short of disabling javascript entirely on
those pages, you'd have to find the script that's catching your
keypresses and block it.  There are other approaches to blocking bits
of javascript, but I usually use AdBlock Plus for it.  In the case of
huffpost, this filter will work:

  |http://s.huffpost.com/assets/js.php?f=yui.js*


  
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BBC back at the farm

2010-08-29 Thread HilsB

Evening again Jack,

I see the BBC iPlayer has the Rogers and Hammerstien concert, and 
many other programs -


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/tv/

I'm not sure if you will be able to get it but its worth a try.

KBO - Hilary
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Re: Change Font Color???

2010-08-29 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Willard wrote:

 Thanks,but I have tried to set colors to my chosen colors black on
 white, but aol.com still comes up with blue print??

I just looked at the aol.com main page again, and there is both blue
text and black text. The blue text is all clickable links! And *should*
be blue (the normal color of unvisited links). Nearly everything on the
page is a link to something, but there is ordinary black text here and
there.

Unfortunately, AOL has added additional styling to *not* respect the
standard color of visited links, which is purple.

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Re: BBC back at the farm

2010-08-29 Thread HilsB

HilsB wrote:

Evening again Jack,

I see the BBC iPlayer has the Rogers and Hammerstien concert, and many
other programs -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/tv/

I'm not sure if you will be able to get it but its worth a try.

KBO - Hilary



Oops - sorry folks.
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Re: Left and right arrow keys to go to previous/next.

2010-08-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/29/10 2:55 PM, »Q« wrote:
 In news:zemdnuitpfljgefrnz2dnuvz_ssdn...@mozilla.org,
 Ant a...@zimage.comant wrote:
  
 I am starting to noticed that more and more web sites are supporting
 and using left and right arrow keys to go previous and next
 pages/images.

 For an example:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/26/google-acquisitions-timeline_n_696063.html

 I click left arrow to a previous article and right arrow for the next 
 article. I see this in both Mozilla's Firefox v2.0.0.20 (probably the 
 same in v3.6.8) and SeaMonkey v2.0.6 web browsers. I could not
 reproduce this is in old Internet Explorer v6 (IE6).

 Is there a way to disable this annoyance? I use keyboard a lot to 
 navigate online, including web sites.
 
 As Ed says, it's javascript.  Short of disabling javascript entirely on
 those pages, you'd have to find the script that's catching your
 keypresses and block it.  There are other approaches to blocking bits
 of javascript, but I usually use AdBlock Plus for it.  In the case of
 huffpost, this filter will work:
 
   |http://s.huffpost.com/assets/js.php?f=yui.js*

I have the PrefBar extension installed for SeaMonkey.  I use the
JavaScript checkbox to disable JavaScript whenever I view the Huffington
Post, not because of what happens to navigation arrows but because of
the annoying same-window popups.  I also disable JavaScript for several
other news Web sites for the same reason.  The only problem is
remembering to enable JavaScript before I visit a page where it is
really needed.

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http://www.rossde.com/

I filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through
GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of the
amount of spam from that source.
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Re: Left and right arrow keys to go to previous/next.

2010-08-29 Thread Tarkus

On 8/29/2010 3:54 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

I have the PrefBar extension installed for SeaMonkey.  I use the
JavaScript checkbox to disable JavaScript whenever I view the Huffington
Post, not because of what happens to navigation arrows but because of
the annoying same-window popups.  I also disable JavaScript for several
other news Web sites for the same reason.  The only problem is
remembering to enable JavaScript before I visit a page where it is
really needed.


NoScript is your friend.
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Re: Change Font Color???

2010-08-29 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
chicagofan wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Willard wrote:
 Thanks,but I have tried to set colors to my chosen colors  black
 on white, but aol.com still comes up with blue print?? 
 
 I just looked at the aol.com main page again, and there is both blue
 text and black text. The blue text is all clickable links! And
 *should* be blue (the normal color of unvisited links). Nearly
 everything on the page is a link to something, but there is ordinary
 black text here and there. 
 
 Unfortunately, AOL has added additional styling to *not* respect the
 standard color of visited links, which is purple. 
 
 I went to AOL after reading your message and see that it is basically
 all links as you said, and it seems to me, Willard should be able to
 change the link print to a color that pleases him more, if he set
 them in the link color settings, under Edit/Preferences... and
 uncheck the use system settings, shouldn't he? 

He could, but whatever he picks is going to affect all web pages, not
just AOL.  Maybe he picks to make a:link { color: black !important; }
and then goes to a page with a black background. Poof, no links.

I tend to just put up with whatever the author delivers. It's not going
to kill me. For my own web sites, I do assign link colors, the standard
values for unvisited, visited, hover and so forth.

 Surely he doesn't want them in black too, but whatever he wants, that
 should work, wouldn't it? 

It should...  nearly everything a web author does can be overridden --
if you know how.  :-)

 It gives me the colors I have set for general print fonts, and links.
 bj

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Re: Change Font Color???

2010-08-29 Thread chicagofan

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

chicagofan wrote:
   

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 

I just looked at the aol.com main page again, and there is both blue
text and black text. The blue text is all clickable links! And
*should* be blue (the normal color of unvisited links). Nearly
everything on the page is a link to something, but there is ordinary
black text here and there.
   

I went to AOL after reading your message and see that it is basically
all links as you said, and it seems to me, Willard should be able to
change the link print to a color that pleases him more, if he set
them in the link color settings, under Edit/Preferences... and
unchecked the use system settings, shouldn't he?
 

He could, but whatever he picks is going to affect all web pages, not
just AOL.  Maybe he picks to make a:link { color: black !important; }
and then goes to a page with a black background. Poof, no links.
   


That's true... and he probably wouldn't want to deal with that.


I tend to just put up with whatever the author delivers. It's not going
to kill me. For my own web sites, I do assign link colors, the standard
values for unvisited, visited, hover and so forth.
   

Surely he doesn't want them in black too, but whatever he wants, that
should work, wouldn't it?
 

It should...  nearly everything a web author does can be overridden --
if you know how.  :-)
   


LOL... I'm not that smart.  :)

I'm probably missing a lot in creativity, but I've set mine to a dark 
background and lighter fonts, simply because it's easier on my eyes.  
I'm on the computer a LOT, and most all sites work for me.   :)


Guess Willard will just have to experiment some more, and see what he's 
happy with, since he could change the colors of those links that he 
objects to.   ;)

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Re: Left and right arrow keys to go to previous/next.

2010-08-29 Thread Ed Mullen

»Q« wrote:

Innews:zemdnuitpfljgefrnz2dnuvz_ssdn...@mozilla.org,
Anta...@zimage.comant  wrote:


I am starting to noticed that more and more web sites are supporting
and using left and right arrow keys to go previous and next
pages/images.

For an example:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/26/google-acquisitions-timeline_n_696063.html

I click left arrow to a previous article and right arrow for the next
article. I see this in both Mozilla's Firefox v2.0.0.20 (probably the
same in v3.6.8) and SeaMonkey v2.0.6 web browsers. I could not
reproduce this is in old Internet Explorer v6 (IE6).

Is there a way to disable this annoyance? I use keyboard a lot to
navigate online, including web sites.


As Ed says, it's javascript.  Short of disabling javascript entirely on
those pages, you'd have to find the script that's catching your
keypresses and block it.  There are other approaches to blocking bits
of javascript, but I usually use AdBlock Plus for it.  In the case of
huffpost, this filter will work:

   |http://s.huffpost.com/assets/js.php?f=yui.js*


As Ed also said, if you block javascript you totally undo the page 
navigation.  There is no solution to the OP's issue.


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Re: Left and right arrow keys to go to previous/next.

2010-08-29 Thread Ed Mullen

Tarkus wrote:

On 8/29/2010 3:54 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

I have the PrefBar extension installed for SeaMonkey. I use the
JavaScript checkbox to disable JavaScript whenever I view the Huffington
Post, not because of what happens to navigation arrows but because of
the annoying same-window popups. I also disable JavaScript for several
other news Web sites for the same reason. The only problem is
remembering to enable JavaScript before I visit a page where it is
really needed.


NoScript is your friend.


God!  No it is not in this case.  If you disable javascript on the OP's 
example page you break the page navigation.  The OP wants to be able to 
navigate in a way the page author does not allow.


Turning off javascript is NOT a solution, it breaks the page havigation.

The answer to the OP is: No.  You cannot change this AFAICT.  Geez.

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Re: Left and right arrow keys to go to previous/next.

2010-08-29 Thread Tarkus

On 8/29/2010 8:48 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

On 8/29/2010 3:54 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

I have the PrefBar extension installed for SeaMonkey. I use the
JavaScript checkbox to disable JavaScript whenever I view the Huffington
Post, not because of what happens to navigation arrows but because of
the annoying same-window popups. I also disable JavaScript for several
other news Web sites for the same reason. The only problem is
remembering to enable JavaScript before I visit a page where it is
really needed.


NoScript is your friend.


God!  No it is not in this case.  If you disable javascript on the OP's
example page you break the page navigation.  The OP wants to be able to
navigate in a way the page author does not allow.


I was responding to David's enabling/disabling JavaScript on the fly, 
and trying to remember each time.  Since NoScript has 
blacklist/whitelist capability, that's not necessary.

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Sending attachments

2010-08-29 Thread Jim P
I have a Dell 4600, Win XP with all the updates, SM2.06.  Last week I 
suddenly can not send attachments over about 100 K. Smaller files are 
sent fine. It doesn't matter the file type.  Regular e-mail works fine 
as long as there aren't any large attachments.  Before last week there 
was no problem sending large attachments.  If I forward a large e-mail 
it will not send either.  The message will to to 29% sent and freeze, 
then time out.  I have a laptop with Win 7, SM 2.06 networked to the 
same router and I have no problem sending the same files that would not 
send from the Dell.  I created a new profile, no info from others 
profiles added, with the same results.


I'm an early Netscape users and have not encountered anything like this 
before.

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