Re: More on unwanted tabs
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/22/11 9:31 PM, Rufus wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: With help from Michael and WLS, I have now managed to get e-mail http: hyperlinks to open in a new window, not in a new tab. But now I find that the add-on manager opens in a new tab (I have to use the add-on manager to remove Chatzilla, which has been forcibly installed without my agreement). Please, I do not want tabs. At all. Period. Is there one global switch that will stop Seamonkey 2.2 from opening new tabs at all, and force everything to open in a new window ? Thank you ! Philip Taylor Yes - there is a pref setting for that. Under Browser-.Tabbed Browsing. Just uncheck what you don't want - the pref setting works. At least it's always worked for me through 2.0.14...but I *LOVE* tabs, and *always* use them! If it's broke after 2.0.14...well... That does not work for the Add-ons Manager or the Data Manager. They still open in tabs in the window where they were requested. I guess that's a 2.1.x thing...one more reason I'll stick with 2.0.14 for now. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unwanted tabs
Rufus wrote: David E. Ross wrote: That does not work for the Add-ons Manager or the Data Manager. They still open in tabs in the window where they were requested. I guess that's a 2.1.x thing...one more reason I'll stick with 2.0.14 for now. I have managed to find a work-around : simply enter about:addons in the location field and hit return; the current page will be replaced by the add-on manager, and a return can be made to the previous page when use of the add-on manager is complete using the normal browser Back functionality. Hardly elegant, but at least it will allow me to use the add-on manager without creating a new tab. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other threads but got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking: Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may have been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0, SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing history.' Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I had before. No? Please, I don't understand terms like 'places.qlite' or even the intricacies of 'profile' and what is meant by 'using a profile'. (I think that I have to have a SM profile, but I have long forgotten whatever I once knew about such matters.) I'm just a humble (and time-pressed) word-assembler who once thought to support a good cause - Netscape and then SeaMonkey - but have become unhappy with the constant loss of whole days of my time when things like 'essential upgrades' come along (as they so often do). All I want to know is whether I can go back to an earlier version of SM without the threatened 'loss of data'? And, if so, might somebody be kind enough to recommend me a good, stable version to install - with which I'm prepared to stay until I die. Thanks in anticipation to the good samaritan/s who will respond to this. - Ken (in Oz) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
Ken -- Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other threads but got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking: Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may have been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0, SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing history.' Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I had before. No? It would seem, from the text you cite and from the Known issues page : http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues that the only expected data loss is your browsing history. Given that most of us now operate in paranoid mode, and clear the browser history on browser exit anyway, this does not seem to represent a serious risk. Like you, and like some other contributors to this list since the announcement/release of V2.2, I too feel that V2.2 has fixed far too much that ain't broke in the first place -- incremental releases should (IMHO) address security concerns, evolving standards such as CSS, and similar core issues, reserving major behavioural changes such as the new must use tabs philosophy and the no-longer-optional installation of Chatzilla for optional major release (i.e., Seamonkey 3). Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy, but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003 and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent developments). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
about:config -- why no hyperhelp
In endeavouring to persuade Seamonkey 2.2 to behave more as I would wish (and as earlier versions always did), I find that I am making far more use than normal of about:config What makes this so intensely frustrating is that there is no hyperhelp associated with the keys, and I have to launch a new browser session and use Google in order to find the meaning of the various keys and their values. Is there any obvious reason why the about:config interface cannot/does not support hyperlinks to the relevant documentation, rather than requiring the user to search for it in hyperspace ? Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
Gratitude to Philip Taylor for his response. Thanks, Philip. I saw one of your earlier posts (I think it was yours) about unwanted tabs in SM 2.2 and understood and sympathised completely. Please, anyone, what earlier version of SM might you recommend as particularly stable? Also - slightly off topic - can anyone tell me how to kill the box that opens every time I come here asking whether I want to compress my folders? (My answer would be - please tell me if I'm wrong - 'No, of course I don't want to do that unless I'm running out of space, but with a new computer and a vast hard drive, that seems to me hardly likely' - but the box gives me no such option, i.e., to say 'No', nor does it have a 'Don't show me this box in the future' option.) - Ken (in Oz) - Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Ken -- Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other threads but got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking: Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may have been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0, SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing history.' Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I had before. No? It would seem, from the text you cite and from the Known issues page : http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues that the only expected data loss is your browsing history. Given that most of us now operate in paranoid mode, and clear the browser history on browser exit anyway, this does not seem to represent a serious risk. Like you, and like some other contributors to this list since the announcement/release of V2.2, I too feel that V2.2 has fixed far too much that ain't broke in the first place -- incremental releases should (IMHO) address security concerns, evolving standards such as CSS, and similar core issues, reserving major behavioural changes such as the new must use tabs philosophy and the no-longer-optional installation of Chatzilla for optional major release (i.e., Seamonkey 3). Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy, but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003 and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent developments). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
On 7/23/2011 6:54 AM Ken submitted the following: Gratitude to Philip Taylor for his response. Thanks, Philip. I saw one of your earlier posts (I think it was yours) about unwanted tabs in SM 2.2 and understood and sympathised completely. Please, anyone, what earlier version of SM might you recommend as particularly stable? Also - slightly off topic - can anyone tell me how to kill the box that opens every time I come here asking whether I want to compress my folders? (My answer would be - please tell me if I'm wrong - 'No, of course I don't want to do that unless I'm running out of space, but with a new computer and a vast hard drive, that seems to me hardly likely' - but the box gives me no such option, i.e., to say 'No', nor does it have a 'Don't show me this box in the future' option.) Try seleting Edit/Preferences/Mail Newsgroups/Network Storage and then changing the Disk Space box to a higher number. -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/ Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Any philosophy that can be put in a nutshell belongs there. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config -- why no hyperhelp
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:16:55 +0100, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: In endeavouring to persuade Seamonkey 2.2 to behave more as I would wish (and as earlier versions always did), I find that I am making far more use than normal of about:config What makes this so intensely frustrating is that there is no hyperhelp associated with the keys, and I have to launch a new browser session and use Google in order to find the meaning of the various keys and their values. Is there any obvious reason why the about:config interface cannot/does not support hyperlinks to the relevant documentation, rather than requiring the user to search for it in hyperspace ? Most obvious reason: SeaMonkey is a totally volunteer driven community project. There are no paid developers. To do this you would need. 1. Sufficient number of volunteers with the free time and skills to do this. 2. Get these volunteers to spend an indeterminate number of man hours researching and documenting each of several thousand preferences 3. Compile the information into an indexed and searchable format. 4. Write some code to the about:config screen to link each entry to the relevant documentation. . Alternatively find someone who has already done all that. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/whats-that-preference/ Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. n ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want my old Seamonkey back
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 02:07:07 +0200, Robert Kaiser wrote: stevesteve schrieb: Please how do I get my old version of SeaMonkey back!? I updated to v2.2 in good faith. The new version is a nightmare. Have you tried to right-click? All I want to do is copy-paste and spell check, all I get is a laundry list of useless (to me) functions. Every time I saw that problem, a restart of SeaMonkey helped. Someone will need to file a bug and someone will need to track it down and fix it. It's all volunteers in this project, help from everyone is wanted and needed. There are at least two bugs filed, but IanN and by Neil. No need to file another one. It appears to be a core XUL bug. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unwanted tabs
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:38:17 +0100, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: With help from Michael and WLS, I have now managed to get e-mail http: hyperlinks to open in a new window, not in a new tab. But now I find that the add-on manager opens in a new tab (I have to use the add-on manager to remove Chatzilla, which has been forcibly installed without my agreement). Please, I do not want tabs. At all. Period. Is there one global switch that will stop Seamonkey 2.2 from opening new tabs at all, and force everything to open in a new window ? Thank you ! Philip Taylor Someone could adapt this Firefox extension to SeaMonkey: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-ons-manager-dialog-for-ff4/ Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
On 7/23/11, Ken muf...@labyrinth.net.au wrote: Gratitude to Philip Taylor for his response. Thanks, Philip. I saw one of your earlier posts (I think it was yours) about unwanted tabs in SM 2.2 and understood and sympathised completely. Please, anyone, what earlier version of SM might you recommend as particularly stable? The problem is that earlier versions have security issues. I can't find the SM page that lists security issues/fixes, so this will have to do http://secunia.com/advisories/45007/ Multiple vulnerabilities have been reported in Mozilla SeaMonkey, which can be exploited by malicious people to disclose potentially sensitive information, conduct cross-site scripting attacks, and compromise a user's system. Also - slightly off topic - can anyone tell me how to kill the box that opens every time I come here asking whether I want to compress my folders? I have no idea :( Lee (My answer would be - please tell me if I'm wrong - 'No, of course I don't want to do that unless I'm running out of space, but with a new computer and a vast hard drive, that seems to me hardly likely' - but the box gives me no such option, i.e., to say 'No', nor does it have a 'Don't show me this box in the future' option.) - Ken (in Oz) - Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Ken -- Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other threads but got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking: Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may have been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0, SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing history.' Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I had before. No? It would seem, from the text you cite and from the Known issues page : http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues that the only expected data loss is your browsing history. Given that most of us now operate in paranoid mode, and clear the browser history on browser exit anyway, this does not seem to represent a serious risk. Like you, and like some other contributors to this list since the announcement/release of V2.2, I too feel that V2.2 has fixed far too much that ain't broke in the first place -- incremental releases should (IMHO) address security concerns, evolving standards such as CSS, and similar core issues, reserving major behavioural changes such as the new must use tabs philosophy and the no-longer-optional installation of Chatzilla for optional major release (i.e., Seamonkey 3). Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy, but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003 and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent developments). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config -- why no hyperhelp
Philip Chee wrote: On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:16:55 +0100, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Is there any obvious reason why the about:config interface cannot/does not support hyperlinks to the relevant documentation, rather than requiring the user to search for it in hyperspace ? Most obvious reason: SeaMonkey is a totally volunteer driven community project. There are no paid developers. I understand that, and I am very grateful to those volunteers for the finite-but-unbounded hours they have dedicated, and will dedicate, to the development of this most useful suite. To do this you would need. 1. Sufficient number of volunteers with the free time and skills to do this. 2. Get these volunteers to spend an indeterminate number of man hours researching and documenting each of several thousand preferences This may seem a naive question, but how on earth can those several thousand preferences not already be documented ? How can a volunteer usefully contribute to the project unless what is already accomplished is properly documented ? Surely new volunteers aren't expected to work out for themselves how everything works, are they ? I do understand that this is a distributed project, and that conventional ideas concerning project management may not be entirely relevant, but I would have thought (and expected) that everything accomplished so far would be properly documented so that those who volunteer to continue with the work will have a sound basis from which to start. 3. Compile the information into an indexed and searchable format. 4. Write some code to the about:config screen to link each entry to the relevant documentation. Such effort would, at least, have been of great potential benefit to all users of Seamonkey, whereas (and with the greatest respect) some of the effort that has gone into Seamonkey 2.2 (such as the switch to a tab-based browsing environment) is perhaps of far more restricted potential benefit. As has been written elsewhere, trying to bring Seamonkey into closer alignment with Firefox behaviour is not necessarily well-advised : those who want Firefox-like behaviour will already be using Firefox -- those of us that do not would (I suspect) prefer Seamonkey to remain as it was, at least as regards the user interface. Alternatively find someone who has already done all that. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/whats-that-preference/ Sadly that potential solution, interesting though it is, is apparently not relevant to this lists (Seamonkey-support), as it appears to work solely with a different product (Firefox 7 and later). Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unwanted tabs
On 7/23/11, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote: On 7/22/11 8:23 PM, Lee wrote: On 7/22/11, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote: On 7/22/11 4:38 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: With help from Michael and WLS, I have now managed to get e-mail http: hyperlinks to open in a new window, not in a new tab. But now I find that the add-on manager opens in a new tab (I have to use the add-on manager to remove Chatzilla, which has been forcibly installed without my agreement). Please, I do not want tabs. At all. Period. Is there one global switch that will stop Seamonkey 2.2 from opening new tabs at all, and force everything to open in a new window ? Thank you ! Philip Taylor There appears to be no way to open the Add-ons Manager in a new window. File / New / Browser Window in the new window: Tools / Add-ons Manager Even with all preferences set to open new windows instead of tabs, the result will be a new tab. The same is true of the Data Manager (passwords, cookies, permissions). File / New / Browser Window in the new window: Tools / Data Manager HTH, Lee In the new window, the Add-ons Manager and the Data Manager open in new tabs. You get a tab for each even if you have not otherwise used the new window. Works for me as long as I've got a check mark for Edit / Preferences / Browser / Tabbed Browsing / Hide the tab bar when only one tab is open. uhmm... you did open a new window for the Addons manager and another new window for the Data Manager.. right? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want my old Seamonkey back
Philip Chee schrieb: There are at least two bugs filed, but IanN and by Neil. No need to file another one. It appears to be a core XUL bug. Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to work around on 2.3 or so. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unwanted tabs
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) schrieb: I have managed to find a work-around : simply enter about:addons in the location field and hit return; the current page will be replaced by the add-on manager, and a return can be made to the previous page when use of the add-on manager is complete using the normal browser Back functionality. BTW, same for about:data and the Data Manager. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unwanted tabs
Rufus schrieb: I guess that's a 2.1.x thing...one more reason I'll stick with 2.0.14 for now. Well, if you love tabs, as you said, then it's no problem that they open in tabs. I really don't understand what you are saying. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config -- why no hyperhelp
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) schrieb: Is there any obvious reason why the about:config interface cannot/does not support hyperlinks to the relevant documentation, rather than requiring the user to search for it in hyperspace ? Yes, it's not supposed to be used by normal users, and it gives direct access to the guts of anything that any part of the application puts in a preference. It would even be impossible to document all of that, it's best not to touch this at all. If there's any reason at all a normal user needs to go in there, it's a bug and volunteers in the SeaMonkey project should fix that by either changing defaults or adding preferences UI. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/22/11 1:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I have success with this site, and I have disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. My UA string is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 SeaMonkey/2.2 I tried spoofing as SeaMonkey/2.0.14 not Firefox 3.6, but no luck. That was the point I was trying to make. It's NOT a case of bad sniffing. Spoofing is not required. Thanks for this, David. When I read Doc's reply, my first thought was poor sniffing, so I replied. After reading the rest of the replies in the thread, I was beginning to doubt that it was a sniffing problem, but by then I had already posted, so.. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Automatic Upgrade 2.0.14 to 2.2?
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 7/22/2011 6:45 PM, John Mckenzie wrote: On 7/21/2011 9:44 AM, Larry wrote: Currently on 2.0.14 on XP SP3. Used to get automatic upgrades through the 2.0.x series. Did I miss these for 2.1 and then 2.2? Or is that still to come? (There are some concerns about the new series, but have a feeling that there is a runaway train and I've missed it.) Larry Am I apt to have a problem going from 1.8 to 2.2? We have not tested updates from 1.1.x to 2.2, Recommend going to 2.0 then 2.2 or maybe John could be the trailblazer, 1.1 to 2.2 direct?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Automatic Upgrade 2.0.14 to 2.2?
On 7/23/2011 8:44 AM, Daniel wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 7/22/2011 6:45 PM, John Mckenzie wrote: On 7/21/2011 9:44 AM, Larry wrote: Currently on 2.0.14 on XP SP3. Used to get automatic upgrades through the 2.0.x series. Did I miss these for 2.1 and then 2.2? Or is that still to come? (There are some concerns about the new series, but have a feeling that there is a runaway train and I've missed it.) Larry Am I apt to have a problem going from 1.8 to 2.2? We have not tested updates from 1.1.x to 2.2, Recommend going to 2.0 then 2.2 or maybe John could be the trailblazer, 1.1 to 2.2 direct?? NOT ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Automatic Upgrade 2.0.14 to 2.2?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Justin, to get the auto-update from 2.0.14 to 2.2, is it just a case of Help-Check for updates and then apply the update found?? I'm not Justin, but your words just as good, Robert! but yes, that should just be it. And you should even get an offer automatically within a day or two if you don't check for updates manually. Robert Kaiser When I started up tonight, I Help-checked for update and got the message that three of my extensions will be disabled when I start up next time, so I'll have SM 2.2 then. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config -- why no hyperhelp
Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:47:41 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/:
Philip Chee wrote:
Alternatively find someone who has already done all that.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/whats-that-preference/
Sadly that potential solution, interesting though it is, is
apparently not relevant to this lists (Seamonkey-support),
as it appears to work solely with a different product
(Firefox 7 and later).
Try downloading the whats_that_preference-0.3-fx.xpi extension
file locally. Unzip (as it is a basically a ZIP file), then modify
the install.rdf file to include SeaMonkey as target application,
as described on:
https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Extensions_support_in_SeaMonkey_2#The_Basics
Note, set the 'maxVersion' to something like 2.4.*:
em:targetApplication
!-- SeaMonkey --
Description
em:id{92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}/em:id
em:minVersion2.1/em:minVersion
em:maxVersion2.4.*/em:maxVersion
/Description
/em:targetApplication
At the end, ZIP the unpacked and modified thing back, preserving the
file name (i.e. having *.xpi extension) and drop into SeaMonkey to
install. Works fine for me.
--
Stanimir
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Re: about:config -- why no hyperhelp
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Try downloading the whats_that_preference-0.3-fx.xpi extension file locally. At the end, ZIP the unpacked and modified thing back, preserving the file name (i.e. having *.xpi extension) and drop into SeaMonkey to install. Works fine for me. Excellent, many thanks Stanimir : will give it a go ! Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config -- why no hyperhelp
Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:10:17 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:47:41 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/: Philip Chee wrote: Alternatively find someone who has already done all that. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/whats-that-preference/ Sadly that potential solution, interesting though it is, is apparently not relevant to this lists (Seamonkey-support), as it appears to work solely with a different product (Firefox 7 and later). Try downloading the whats_that_preference-0.3-fx.xpi extension file locally. Unzip (as it is a basically a ZIP file), then modify the install.rdf file to include SeaMonkey as target application, as described on: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Extensions_support_in_SeaMonkey_2#The_Basics I've also mailed the extension author asking him to include SeaMonkey in the official version. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
H.D. Icon Q.
SM 2.0.14 iMac w/OS 10.6.8 Suddenly, the other day, just as my ext. backup H.D. went south, my Internal H.D. icon turned to display like a Time Machine drive, with the 3/4 arrowed circle and clock hands inside. It used to display as an ordinary enclosed disc drive. I can derive no clue from Get Info, which calls it a 250 GB drive, formatted as Mac OS Extended (Journaled). No other pertinent info. Every time something visibly changes...I want to know why it did that. Thanks, keith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.2 upgrade
I've started getting the automatic upgrade to SM 2.2 box; but when I naively started the upgrade I got a notice that there is no version of IE Tab that works with SM 2.2. So I aborted the upgrade since I find that IE Tab is one of the few extensions that I use a lot. So I came here and started reading about all the problems that people are having with SM 2.2 and the scary prospect of going back to 2.0.14 if I wasn't happy. And I've decided to stick with 2.0.14 for the time being. My question: are there ever going to be security updates for the 2.0.x version? Or will I have to go to 2.2 or 2.3 no matter what just to keep a reasonable security level? Or, worse, will I have to discard SM altogether and go to (ugh) Chrome (which I already must use for such demanding sites as HBO To Go since that site doesn't even work with IE Tab)? I've been a loyal Mozilla person since Netscape 1; but is this where I part company? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: this is what i hink ...
E. Wong wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM, km wrote: ... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest a way to implement their solution code. ... if you are NOT technical you should STFU! I'm not sure if your vitriol was meant against us Developers/People who do code/work on SeaMonkey in our free time. I think the post is directed at those who complain about features/bugs not fixed and the post was to suggest that they add some constructive criticism in the form of 'code'. IOW, if you don't know how to fix the darn bugs, find ways of helping or STFU. That's my take of the post. Edmund The percentage of folks even CAPABLE of coding has to be quite small, in comparison to the total lot of SM users, so your sophomoric response is unacceptable. keith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unwanted tab opening from hyperlink in e-mail
Michael Gordon wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Hallo. I have just upgraded to Seamonkey V2.2, and for the first time, have encountered a change behaviour which is both unexpected and unwanted. In all previous versions, clicking on an http: hyperlink in an e-mail message caused a new browser window to open; now, in V2.2, a new tab opens instead. I do not use tabs, do not like tabs, but can find nothing under Edit/Preferences that will allow me to restore this behaviour to its previous form. I would be very grateful if someone could advise me how to undo this unwanted change, short of reverting back to an earlier version of Seamonkey. Many thanks in advance : Philip Taylor Try going to Edit/Preferences/Browser/Tabbed Browsing. Uncheck what you do not want. That advise applies if you use a PC; if you use a Mac version of SM, the route becomes SeaMonkey/Preferences/Browser/Tabbed Browsing. I think the choices given will satisfy all needs. Even though this is a browser setting and you are posting about e-mail, when you click on a link in a message it opens your web browser. Michael G True. Thanks for the post, Michael. keith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.2 upgrade
Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:39:02 -0700, /Ken Rudolph/: I've started getting the automatic upgrade to SM 2.2 box; but when I naively started the upgrade I got a notice that there is no version of IE Tab that works with SM 2.2. So I aborted the upgrade since I find that IE Tab is one of the few extensions that I use a lot. Just install Add-on Compatibility Reporter https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ which will enable to use your extensions which are not marked compatible with the current SeaMonkey version but otherwise work o.k. with it. So I came here and started reading about all the problems that people are having with SM 2.2 and the scary prospect of going back to 2.0.14 if I wasn't happy. It appears to me many people are lazy (and I had previously thought there's no lazier people than me, heh) - see my comment above. And I've decided to stick with 2.0.14 for the time being. My question: are there ever going to be security updates for the 2.0.x version? Or will I have to go to 2.2 or 2.3 no matter what just to keep a reasonable security level? There will likely be no more updates to SeaMonkey 2.0.*, based on Gecko 1.9.1.*/Firefox 3.5.* - the support for which has been officially dropped by Mozilla since sometime, already. Or, worse, will I have to discard SM altogether and go to (ugh) Chrome (which I already must use for such demanding sites as HBO To Go since that site doesn't even work with IE Tab)? I've been a loyal Mozilla person since Netscape 1; but is this where I part company? It's your choice - use whatever best suits you. As a side remark, I find IE Tab one of the most useless extensions there are. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.2 upgrade
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:39:02 -0700, /Ken Rudolph/: I've started getting the automatic upgrade to SM 2.2 box; but when I naively started the upgrade I got a notice that there is no version of IE Tab that works with SM 2.2. So I aborted the upgrade since I find that IE Tab is one of the few extensions that I use a lot. Just install Add-on Compatibility Reporter https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ which will enable to use your extensions which are not marked compatible with the current SeaMonkey version but otherwise work o.k. with it. So I came here and started reading about all the problems that people are having with SM 2.2 and the scary prospect of going back to 2.0.14 if I wasn't happy. It appears to me many people are lazy (and I had previously thought there's no lazier people than me, heh) - see my comment above. And I've decided to stick with 2.0.14 for the time being. My question: are there ever going to be security updates for the 2.0.x version? Or will I have to go to 2.2 or 2.3 no matter what just to keep a reasonable security level? There will likely be no more updates to SeaMonkey 2.0.*, based on Gecko 1.9.1.*/Firefox 3.5.* - the support for which has been officially dropped by Mozilla since sometime, already. Or, worse, will I have to discard SM altogether and go to (ugh) Chrome (which I already must use for such demanding sites as HBO To Go since that site doesn't even work with IE Tab)? I've been a loyal Mozilla person since Netscape 1; but is this where I part company? It's your choice - use whatever best suits you. As a side remark, I find IE Tab one of the most useless extensions there are. Sorry to take the topic somewhat off topic, but just what site(s) or site would I require IE Tab to view? I have never installed or found a need for that extension. -- Using SeaMonkey 2.4a2 on openSUSE 11.3 Linux ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want my old Seamonkey back
On Jul 23, 6:16 am, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to work around on 2.3 or so. I am going back, I can't live with 2.2 until someone fixes all the problems. If I lose data, I'm done with Mozilla-based programs. Don't people work out these details before they foist a mess like this on so many people? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want my old Seamonkey back
Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:27:24 -0700 (PDT), /Paul/: On Jul 23, 6:16 am, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to work around on 2.3 or so. I am going back, I can't live with 2.2 until someone fixes all the problems. If I lose data, I'm done with Mozilla-based programs. Don't people work out these details before they foist a mess like this on so many people? The problem in question is not data loss related in anyway - it is quite harmless and as it has been pointed already out, the simple workaround, if it ever happens to you, is to restart the application. Note also the problem is not introduced by the SeaMonkey developers. SeaMonkey developers wouldn't release a version which contains serious known data loss problems. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unwanted tabs
On 7/23/11 6:06 AM, Lee wrote: On 7/23/11, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote: On 7/22/11 8:23 PM, Lee wrote: On 7/22/11, David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote: On 7/22/11 4:38 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: With help from Michael and WLS, I have now managed to get e-mail http: hyperlinks to open in a new window, not in a new tab. But now I find that the add-on manager opens in a new tab (I have to use the add-on manager to remove Chatzilla, which has been forcibly installed without my agreement). Please, I do not want tabs. At all. Period. Is there one global switch that will stop Seamonkey 2.2 from opening new tabs at all, and force everything to open in a new window ? Thank you ! Philip Taylor There appears to be no way to open the Add-ons Manager in a new window. File / New / Browser Window in the new window: Tools / Add-ons Manager Even with all preferences set to open new windows instead of tabs, the result will be a new tab. The same is true of the Data Manager (passwords, cookies, permissions). File / New / Browser Window in the new window: Tools / Data Manager HTH, Lee In the new window, the Add-ons Manager and the Data Manager open in new tabs. You get a tab for each even if you have not otherwise used the new window. Works for me as long as I've got a check mark for Edit / Preferences / Browser / Tabbed Browsing / Hide the tab bar when only one tab is open. uhmm... you did open a new window for the Addons manager and another new window for the Data Manager.. right? Lee Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 SeaMonkey/2.2 I ALWAYS run with Hide the tab bar when only one tab is open. With two new windows where I had no other activity, I requested [Tools Add-ons Manager] in one and [Tools Data Manager] in the other. The managers each appeared in a second tab, and the tab bar appeared. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want my old Seamonkey back
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:16:08 +0200, Robert Kaiser wrote: Philip Chee schrieb: There are at least two bugs filed, but IanN and by Neil. No need to file another one. It appears to be a core XUL bug. Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to work around on 2.3 or so. Robert Kaiser Bug 672258 - Wrong context menu can be shown if two different windowtypes have the same contextmenu id and xul cache is enabled Bug 671192 - Command Paste without Formatting in message window is missing Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config -- why no hyperhelp
On 7/23/11 3:16 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: In endeavouring to persuade Seamonkey 2.2 to behave more as I would wish (and as earlier versions always did), I find that I am making far more use than normal of about:config What makes this so intensely frustrating is that there is no hyperhelp associated with the keys, and I have to launch a new browser session and use Google in order to find the meaning of the various keys and their values. Is there any obvious reason why the about:config interface cannot/does not support hyperlinks to the relevant documentation, rather than requiring the user to search for it in hyperspace ? Philip Taylor I generally go to about:config in one tab and to http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries in another tab. That page is very much current. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy, but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003 and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent developments). And 4x3 screens on laptops! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
Best version ever put out in the 2 serious is 2.0x version. From 2. on goes down hill fast. Ken wrote: Gratitude to Philip Taylor for his response. Thanks, Philip. I saw one of your earlier posts (I think it was yours) about unwanted tabs in SM 2.2 and understood and sympathised completely. Please, anyone, what earlier version of SM might you recommend as particularly stable? Also - slightly off topic - can anyone tell me how to kill the box that opens every time I come here asking whether I want to compress my folders? (My answer would be - please tell me if I'm wrong - 'No, of course I don't want to do that unless I'm running out of space, but with a new computer and a vast hard drive, that seems to me hardly likely' - but the box gives me no such option, i.e., to say 'No', nor does it have a 'Don't show me this box in the future' option.) - Ken (in Oz) - Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Ken -- Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other threads but got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking: Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may have been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0, SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing history.' Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I had before. No? It would seem, from the text you cite and from the Known issues page : http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues that the only expected data loss is your browsing history. Given that most of us now operate in paranoid mode, and clear the browser history on browser exit anyway, this does not seem to represent a serious risk. Like you, and like some other contributors to this list since the announcement/release of V2.2, I too feel that V2.2 has fixed far too much that ain't broke in the first place -- incremental releases should (IMHO) address security concerns, evolving standards such as CSS, and similar core issues, reserving major behavioural changes such as the new must use tabs philosophy and the no-longer-optional installation of Chatzilla for optional major release (i.e., Seamonkey 3). Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy, but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003 and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent developments). -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want my old Seamonkey back
Paul wrote: On Jul 23, 6:16 am, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote: Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to work around on 2.3 or so. I am going back, I can't live with 2.2 until someone fixes all the problems. If I lose data, I'm done with Mozilla-based programs. Don't people work out these details before they foist a mess like this on so many people? That's a Fault of this new fast Track software release. They don't test nor keep a version long enough so the Pile bugs upon bugs, upon, bugs, upon bugs until it impossible to fix. everyone is so anxious to keep up with Chrome and IE. I use neither. I don't care to. I would rather have software that's tested enough to catch major bugs. And at some point this hunker down and spit new versions is going to take its toll on the developers. they are going to get to the point they will burn out say Shxx on this and drop out. But hey I am but a lowly user and users opinions are worth a grain of salt anyway. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unwanted tabs
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: I guess that's a 2.1.x thing...one more reason I'll stick with 2.0.14 for now. Well, if you love tabs, as you said, then it's no problem that they open in tabs. I really don't understand what you are saying. Robert Kaiser I'm saying that it sounds like the interface for being able to set/choose the behavior as a Pref isn't up to being something I would like. But yes - as someone who loves Tabs I'd be perfectly happy if *all* dialogs opened as a tab - there would be room within a Tab to provide very detailed and specific information, and I'd hope the designers would take advantage of that. But I still hold that it should be a user selectable choice without having to do something advanced like hacking about:config or using an add-on. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.2 upgrade
WLS wrote: It's your choice - use whatever best suits you. As a side remark, I find IE Tab one of the most useless extensions there are. Sorry to take the topic somewhat off topic, but just what site(s) or site would I require IE Tab to view? I have never installed or found a need for that extension. In your case, there's absolutely no need for it! But I visit a number of different sites where I either must use IE Tab, or switch to another browser; though I'm happy to say that since upgrading to SM 2.n, far fewer sites than before ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
Personally, I'll champion the 1.1.x series because even though I didn't use the Forms Manager there were enough people here who did to make it seem a very desired feature. 2.0.14 is working just fine for me...I'll be sticking with it. -- - Rufus PhillipJones wrote: Best version ever put out in the 2 serious is 2.0x version. From 2. on goes down hill fast. Ken wrote: Gratitude to Philip Taylor for his response. Thanks, Philip. I saw one of your earlier posts (I think it was yours) about unwanted tabs in SM 2.2 and understood and sympathised completely. Please, anyone, what earlier version of SM might you recommend as particularly stable? Also - slightly off topic - can anyone tell me how to kill the box that opens every time I come here asking whether I want to compress my folders? (My answer would be - please tell me if I'm wrong - 'No, of course I don't want to do that unless I'm running out of space, but with a new computer and a vast hard drive, that seems to me hardly likely' - but the box gives me no such option, i.e., to say 'No', nor does it have a 'Don't show me this box in the future' option.) - Ken (in Oz) - Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Ken -- Hi guys. I have already posted the following as an adjunct to other threads but got no response. I will clarify below what I am seeking: Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was - but it may have been 2.0.11). The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0, SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing history.' Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I had before. No? It would seem, from the text you cite and from the Known issues page : http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues that the only expected data loss is your browsing history. Given that most of us now operate in paranoid mode, and clear the browser history on browser exit anyway, this does not seem to represent a serious risk. Like you, and like some other contributors to this list since the announcement/release of V2.2, I too feel that V2.2 has fixed far too much that ain't broke in the first place -- incremental releases should (IMHO) address security concerns, evolving standards such as CSS, and similar core issues, reserving major behavioural changes such as the new must use tabs philosophy and the no-longer-optional installation of Chatzilla for optional major release (i.e., Seamonkey 3). Philip Taylor. who understands the the world must move on philosophy, but who nonetheless finds Windows/XP, Classic View, Office 2003 and so on infinitely more user friendly than any of the more recent developments). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Method to migrate blocked cookies images from 2.0.14 to 2.2? (Win XP)
I'm currently using SM 2.0.14 on Win XP SP3 + security patches, and am gearing up for an update to 2.2. However, given the significant architectural changes to 2.2, I plan to do a clean install of the program, then manually migrate my profile. I place my profile files within a whimsically-named subfolder under the SeaMonkey main program folder on a dedicated Internet-related partition. A large stumbling block to this process is that I have numerous domains with blocked images and cookie permissions, which for 2.0.14 are contained in permissions.sqlite and cookies.sqlite, respectively. I have yet to find a means to merge this data into the combined places.sqlite of 2.2, and am hoping the community has some helpful suggestions. I know there is a places.sqlite database manager add-on available for Firefox, but I don't know if it could be used with SM 2.2--I haven't researched this in depth, yet. I also don't know if this add-on would be applicable to achieve the aforementioned results. All suggestions and recommendations appreciated. Hopefully there is an avenue that will allow me to drill down and merge my 2.0.14 data into a clean install of 2.2. Purrs and TIA -- -- /\ /\ | A cat pours his body on the floor ^o o^D.K. Cat Kraft | like water. It is restful just -T- | to see him. ~ Lynnwood, WA | ___oOO___OOo___ | -- William Lyon Phelps ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Method to migrate blocked cookies images from 2.0.14 to 2.2? (Win XP)
On 7/23/11 11:50 AM, D. K. Kraft wrote: I'm currently using SM 2.0.14 on Win XP SP3 + security patches, and am gearing up for an update to 2.2. However, given the significant architectural changes to 2.2, I plan to do a clean install of the program, then manually migrate my profile. I place my profile files within a whimsically-named subfolder under the SeaMonkey main program folder on a dedicated Internet-related partition. A large stumbling block to this process is that I have numerous domains with blocked images and cookie permissions, which for 2.0.14 are contained in permissions.sqlite and cookies.sqlite, respectively. I have yet to find a means to merge this data into the combined places.sqlite of 2.2, and am hoping the community has some helpful suggestions. I know there is a places.sqlite database manager add-on available for Firefox, but I don't know if it could be used with SM 2.2--I haven't researched this in depth, yet. I also don't know if this add-on would be applicable to achieve the aforementioned results. All suggestions and recommendations appreciated. Hopefully there is an avenue that will allow me to drill down and merge my 2.0.14 data into a clean install of 2.2. Purrs and TIA -- Cookies are still in cookies.sqlite in SM 2.2. I think (not sure) permissions are still in permissions.sqlite. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unwanted tabs
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/23/11 6:06 AM, Lee wrote: On 7/23/11, David E. Rossnobody@nowhere.invalid wrote: On 7/22/11 8:23 PM, Lee wrote: On 7/22/11, David E. Rossnobody@nowhere.invalid wrote: On 7/22/11 4:38 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: With help from Michael and WLS, I have now managed to get e-mail http: hyperlinks to open in a new window, not in a new tab. But now I find that the add-on manager opens in a new tab (I have to use the add-on manager to remove Chatzilla, which has been forcibly installed without my agreement). Please, I do not want tabs. At all. Period. Is there one global switch that will stop Seamonkey 2.2 from opening new tabs at all, and force everything to open in a new window ? Thank you ! Philip Taylor There appears to be no way to open the Add-ons Manager in a new window. File / New / Browser Window in the new window: Tools / Add-ons Manager Even with all preferences set to open new windows instead of tabs, the result will be a new tab. The same is true of the Data Manager (passwords, cookies, permissions). File / New / Browser Window in the new window: Tools / Data Manager HTH, Lee In the new window, the Add-ons Manager and the Data Manager open in new tabs. You get a tab for each even if you have not otherwise used the new window. Works for me as long as I've got a check mark for Edit / Preferences / Browser / Tabbed Browsing / Hide the tab bar when only one tab is open. uhmm... you did open a new window for the Addons manager and another new window for the Data Manager.. right? Lee Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 SeaMonkey/2.2 I ALWAYS run with Hide the tab bar when only one tab is open. With two new windows where I had no other activity, I requested [Tools Add-ons Manager] in one and [Tools Data Manager] in the other. The managers each appeared in a second tab, and the tab bar appeared. Likewise - hide the tab bar when only one tab is open. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.
Bernard Mercier a formulé ce vrijdag : Up to now I happily migrated from 1.x.x to 2.0.14 through the proposed update facility. When the proposal came to update to 2.2 I was confident to choose to update. Horror When 2.2 openend I didn't have my bookmarks any more. I looked in the forum here and saw an advice to look to try to rename places.sqlite.corrupt to places.sqlite. I had 2 such files ...corrupt and ...corrupt1. The places.sqlite and ..corrupt and ..corrupt1 are all 20MB. So supposingly containing my bookmarks. After such a rename I still didn't have my bookmarks. But going in the manage bookmarks, I found the structure of my bookmarks back, but apparently the urls aren't accesible as clicking on a bookmark doesn't open the bookmark. So this is really a disaster. The files being 20MB I have the feeling the URL's are there, but how can I access them? A fellow user of the same Linux distribution said he had the same problem. -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config -- why no hyperhelp
Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:26:54 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/whats-that-preference/ I've also mailed the extension author asking him to include SeaMonkey in the official version. Unfortunately the author has replied he's not going to support SeaMonkey (or Thunderbird for that matter). -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unwanted tab opening from hyperlink in e-mail
Keith Whaley wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Hallo. I have just upgraded to Seamonkey V2.2, and for the first time, have encountered a change behaviour which is both unexpected and unwanted. In all previous versions, clicking on an http: hyperlink in an e-mail message caused a new browser window to open; now, in V2.2, a new tab opens instead. I do not use tabs, do not like tabs, but can find nothing under Edit/Preferences that will allow me to restore this behaviour to its previous form. I would be very grateful if someone could advise me how to undo this unwanted change, short of reverting back to an earlier version of Seamonkey. Many thanks in advance : Philip Taylor Try going to Edit/Preferences/Browser/Tabbed Browsing. Uncheck what you do not want. That advise applies if you use a PC; if you use a Mac version of SM, the route becomes SeaMonkey/Preferences/Browser/Tabbed Browsing. I think the choices given will satisfy all needs. Yes, but to difficult to understand all those options And Tabbed Browsing is not enough, we have also the need to modify the default values in Link Behavior. if we hate tabs (like me) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager workaround
Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:11:48 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:
Here's already revised code to handle forms found in frames,
additionally:
let lm = Components.classes[@mozilla.org/login-manager;1]
.getService(Components.interfaces.nsILoginManager);
function fillForms(doc) {
let forms = doc.forms;
for (let i = 0; i forms.length; i++) {
lm.fillForm(forms[i]);
}
}
fillForms(content.document);
let frames = content.frames;
for (let i = 0; i frames.length; i++) {
fillForms(frames[i].document);
}
Here's the code for a complimentary button which will allow saving
the passwords on pages which normally suppress it. I've generally
taken the code of the remember password [1] bookmarklet and
enhanced it to traverse into frames:
let ca, cea, cs;
ca = cea = cs = 0;
function rememberPasswords(document) {
let documentForms = document.forms;
for (let i = 0; i documentForms.length; i++) {
let form = documentForms[i];
let formElements = form.elements;
if (form.hasAttribute(onsubmit)) {
form.onsubmit = ;
cs++;
}
if (form.attributes[autocomplete]) {
form.attributes[autocomplete].value = on;
ca++;
}
for (let j = 0; j formElements.length; j++) {
let element = formElements[j];
if (element.attributes[autocomplete]) {
element.attributes[autocomplete].value = on;
cea++;
}
}
}
}
rememberPasswords(content.document);
let frames = content.frames;
for (let i = 0; i frames.length; i++) {
rememberPasswords(frames[i].document);
}
function n(i, what) {
return i + + what + ((i == 1) ? : s)
}
alert(Removed autocomplete=off from + n(ca, form)
+ and from + n(cea, form element)
+ , and removed onsubmit from + n(cs, form)
+ . After you type your password and submit the form,
+ the browser will offer to remember your password.);
Having this in a chrome button rather than as a bookmarklet should
make it work in more cases where the password forms are found in
frames with a different than the embedding document origin. This
should generally make the nsLoginManager.js hacks suggested
elsewhere, unnecessary.
[1] https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html#remember_password
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Re: I want my old Seamonkey back
PhillipJones wrote: Paul wrote: On Jul 23, 6:16 am, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote: Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to work around on 2.3 or so. I am going back, I can't live with 2.2 until someone fixes all the problems. If I lose data, I'm done with Mozilla-based programs. Don't people work out these details before they foist a mess like this on so many people? That's a Fault of this new fast Track software release. They don't test nor keep a version long enough so the Pile bugs upon bugs, upon, bugs, upon bugs until it impossible to fix. everyone is so anxious to keep up with Chrome and IE. I use neither. I don't care to. I would rather have software that's tested enough to catch major bugs. And at some point this hunker down and spit new versions is going to take its toll on the developers. they are going to get to the point they will burn out say Shxx on this and drop out. But hey I am but a lowly user and users opinions are worth a grain of salt anyway. I agree with you. Mixing bug fixes, security fixes *AND* new features introduce extra bugs ... developpers should refrain of pushing new features so often. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unwanted tabs
Mike wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Please, I do not want tabs. At all. Period. Maybe at least give them a try for a while? If you did, fine. I just know that change is inevitable. Changes in browsers, OS's, Office suites, etc bug /me/ sometimes because I'm used to how it worked for so long. But at some point, you're likely to no longer be able to change new versions to old functionality. When such changes occur, I always force myself to work with it as is for a couple weeks at least. More often than not, I find that the new way is then preferable to the old way. Why not creating only one option in preferrence browser like [ ] No Tabs. Instead of a lot of tab options/parameters in Tab-Browing *and* in Link-Behavior ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager workaround
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:11:48 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:
Here's already revised code to handle forms found in frames,
additionally:
let lm = Components.classes[@mozilla.org/login-manager;1]
.getService(Components.interfaces.nsILoginManager);
function fillForms(doc) {
let forms = doc.forms;
for (let i = 0; i forms.length; i++) {
lm.fillForm(forms[i]);
}
}
fillForms(content.document);
let frames = content.frames;
for (let i = 0; i frames.length; i++) {
fillForms(frames[i].document);
}
Here's the code for a complimentary button which will allow saving the
passwords on pages which normally suppress it. I've generally taken the
code of the remember password [1] bookmarklet and enhanced it to
traverse into frames:
let ca, cea, cs;
ca = cea = cs = 0;
function rememberPasswords(document) {
let documentForms = document.forms;
for (let i = 0; i documentForms.length; i++) {
let form = documentForms[i];
let formElements = form.elements;
if (form.hasAttribute(onsubmit)) {
form.onsubmit = ;
cs++;
}
if (form.attributes[autocomplete]) {
form.attributes[autocomplete].value = on;
ca++;
}
for (let j = 0; j formElements.length; j++) {
let element = formElements[j];
if (element.attributes[autocomplete]) {
element.attributes[autocomplete].value = on;
cea++;
}
}
}
}
rememberPasswords(content.document);
let frames = content.frames;
for (let i = 0; i frames.length; i++) {
rememberPasswords(frames[i].document);
}
function n(i, what) {
return i + + what + ((i == 1) ? : s)
}
alert(Removed autocomplete=off from + n(ca, form)
+ and from + n(cea, form element)
+ , and removed onsubmit from + n(cs, form)
+ . After you type your password and submit the form,
+ the browser will offer to remember your password.);
Having this in a chrome button rather than as a bookmarklet should make
it work in more cases where the password forms are found in frames with
a different than the embedding document origin. This should generally
make the nsLoginManager.js hacks suggested elsewhere, unnecessary.
[1] https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html#remember_password
Thanks. Can't wait to try it out.
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Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
Ken wrote: And, if so, might somebody be kind enough to recommend me a good, stable version to install - with which I'm prepared to stay until I die. You must know that with SM you always need to upgrade, upgrade, upgrade and upgrade forever The developpers don't want to maintain ONE stable release with only bugs and security issues corrections. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
Rufus wrote: Personally, I'll champion the 1.1.x series because even though I didn't use the Forms Manager there were enough people here who did to make it seem a very desired feature. 2.0.14 is working just fine for me...I'll be sticking with it. I agree. But if you have to go to 2 series. the 2.0.x is best version of the two series ever put out. 2.1 on you go down hill fast. Kills addons and Kill plugins. 2.2 I tried and only 4 helper files were listed. Before then the were 30-35 helper files listed. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
will there be an update to make classic default .7 work with newest Seamonkey?
I use Classic Default theme and the newer Seamonkey update does not support this. Any time frame on an update for this add on theme...thanks Rudra ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: will there be an update to make classic default .7 work with newest Seamonkey?
Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:30:49 -0400, /Acharya Swami Rudra Kali Das/: I use Classic Default theme and the newer Seamonkey update does not support this. Any time frame on an update for this add on theme...thanks I guess you should best contact the theme author: https://addons.mozilla.org/user/4973468/ Note also there's an E-mail your question link in the right column on the extension/theme page (just under Need help with this add-on?): https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/classic-default/ -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Separate post: please help, I want to go back to an earlier version of SM
On 7/23/2011 5:17 PM PhillipJones submitted the following: Rufus wrote: Personally, I'll champion the 1.1.x series because even though I didn't use the Forms Manager there were enough people here who did to make it seem a very desired feature. 2.0.14 is working just fine for me...I'll be sticking with it. I agree. But if you have to go to 2 series. the 2.0.x is best version of the two series ever put out. 2.1 on you go down hill fast. Kills addons and Kill plugins. 2.2 I tried and only 4 helper files were listed. Before then the were 30-35 helper files listed. I'm one of the few that seems to have no problems with 2.2. Other than know bugs that have been around for some time, i.e. no space after smilies, etc. As to addons that SAY they won't work. Most do with a little push from Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.7 I have the following 13 extensions that are actually working ok in 2.2 'Display Mail User Agent 1.6.6 will not work though (of course it quit working somewhere around 1.1.13 so I'm still using 1.6.5) Extensions (enabled: 13) * Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.7 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/?src=api) * Autofill Forms 0.9.5.2 (https://blueimp.net/mozilla/) * BetterPrivacy 1.51 (http://netticat.ath.cx/extensions.html) * ChatZilla 0.9.87 (http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/) * DOM Inspector 2.0.10 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/) * Display Mail User Agent 1.6.5 (http://www.juergen-ernst.de/addons/dispmua.html) * DownloadHelper 4.9.3 (http://www.downloadhelper.net) * FireFTP 1.99.5 (http://fireftp.mozdev.org) * JavaScript Debugger 0.9.88.2 (http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/venkman/) * Password Exporter 1.2.1 (http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com) * PrefBar 5.1.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/) * Quote Colors 0.3 (http://quotecolors.mozdev.org/) * ShowIP 1.1 (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/) -- Ed http://www.jonesfarm.us Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Ability is what will get you to the top if the boss has no daughter. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
On 7/20/2011 6:20 PM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. It works fine in my old SeaMonkey v2.0.18 in an old Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine. However, it uses Bing.com. Why not go there directly instead of through National Geographic's web site? -- I made my list for my birthday. --Christopher. Yeah, what'd you put on there? - A basketball or an ant farm. and This could be an ant farm. This could be a microscope or anything. --Chris from The Pursuit of Happyness movie. /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Personal toolbar and delete
Running a Mac with Leopard and Sea Monkey 2.2. Under Seamonkey 2.1 and using a personal toolbar drop down menu it was possible to right click and delete an unwanted site. Seamonkey 2.2 will only delete unwanted sites via top menu 'Manage Bookmarks'. The 2.1 right click Delete was very useful and easier. That apart many thanks for all the work updating Seamonkey. HilsB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Visited Links' Color and about:config
For some reason, my Visited Links do not change color from the non-visited ones. I noticed this recently on the mozillaZine Forums and also Google groups (using SeaMonkey 2.2). However, if I have the about:config page open (using the ViewAbout extension) the different colors appear, but once I close that box (without making any changes) the different colors disappear. Any advice on how to get the Visited Links colors to show as set in my Preferences box (they differ from the non-visited links)? Thanks for any info on this. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager workaround
On 7/23/11 1:43 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:11:48 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:
Here's already revised code to handle forms found in frames,
additionally:
let lm = Components.classes[@mozilla.org/login-manager;1]
.getService(Components.interfaces.nsILoginManager);
function fillForms(doc) {
let forms = doc.forms;
for (let i = 0; i forms.length; i++) {
lm.fillForm(forms[i]);
}
}
fillForms(content.document);
let frames = content.frames;
for (let i = 0; i frames.length; i++) {
fillForms(frames[i].document);
}
Here's the code for a complimentary button which will allow saving
the passwords on pages which normally suppress it. I've generally
taken the code of the remember password [1] bookmarklet and
enhanced it to traverse into frames:
let ca, cea, cs;
ca = cea = cs = 0;
function rememberPasswords(document) {
let documentForms = document.forms;
for (let i = 0; i documentForms.length; i++) {
let form = documentForms[i];
let formElements = form.elements;
if (form.hasAttribute(onsubmit)) {
form.onsubmit = ;
cs++;
}
if (form.attributes[autocomplete]) {
form.attributes[autocomplete].value = on;
ca++;
}
for (let j = 0; j formElements.length; j++) {
let element = formElements[j];
if (element.attributes[autocomplete]) {
element.attributes[autocomplete].value = on;
cea++;
}
}
}
}
rememberPasswords(content.document);
let frames = content.frames;
for (let i = 0; i frames.length; i++) {
rememberPasswords(frames[i].document);
}
function n(i, what) {
return i + + what + ((i == 1) ? : s)
}
alert(Removed autocomplete=off from + n(ca, form)
+ and from + n(cea, form element)
+ , and removed onsubmit from + n(cs, form)
+ . After you type your password and submit the form,
+ the browser will offer to remember your password.);
Having this in a chrome button rather than as a bookmarklet should
make it work in more cases where the password forms are found in
frames with a different than the embedding document origin. This
should generally make the nsLoginManager.js hacks suggested
elsewhere, unnecessary.
[1] https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html#remember_password
The simple tweak in nsLoginManager.js that worked in SM 2.0.x no longer
works in SM 2.1 or 2.2 even if I unzip omni.jar to get at
nsLoginManager.js and then rezip after doing the tweak. This was
described at http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/ and
avoided the need for a bookmarklet or button.
Could you possibly come up with an effective tweak to replace it, one
that still avoids the need for user action at the time of login?
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Re: Password Manager workaround
Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:45:04 -0700, /David E. Ross/: The simple tweak in nsLoginManager.js that worked in SM 2.0.x no longer works in SM 2.1 or 2.2 even if I unzip omni.jar to get at nsLoginManager.js and then rezip after doing the tweak. This was described at http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/ and avoided the need for a bookmarklet or button. Hm, works for me with SM 2.2 - could it be you're missing something while applying the change? I like the general effect such solution accomplishes but I don't like the fact I'll need to reapply it after application updates. Could you possibly come up with an effective tweak to replace it, one that still avoids the need for user action at the time of login? I'll see whether it is possible to override just that file through an extension. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Welcome to SeaMonkey Mail Newsgroups!
I got latest update and would like to remove annoying screen in my email window titled Welcome to SeaMonkey Mail Newsgroups! Where is the magic box to unchecked. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Welcome to SeaMonkey Mail Newsgroups!
stan wrote: I got latest update and would like to remove annoying screen in my email window titled Welcome to SeaMonkey Mail Newsgroups! Where is the magic box to unchecked. Edit / Preferences... / Mail Newsgroups / Mail Start Page. Uncheck it, or pick your own location to display. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Ant wrote: On 7/20/2011 6:20 PM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. It works fine in my old SeaMonkey v2.0.18 in an old Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine. However, it uses Bing.com. Why not go there directly instead of through National Geographic's web site? Works perfectly for me SeaMonkey 2.0.14. 2.1 has killed a slew of extensions, and 2.3 has killed a slew of plugins in addition to the extensions. I expect a required plug-in need to view the map is dead, and can not be resuscitated. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM2.2 odd installation behaviour
Updated my OS to MacOS Lion earlier this week. SM Update today offered me the 2.2 update which I accepted. On starting the update it first brought up a Checking Compatibility of Add-ons window, which warned that This may take a few minutes. After an hour I gave up and pressed the cancel button, and I was then taken to SM2.2. Mail worked fine, but Browser did not follow my preferences setting to restore my previous session, simply giving me the SM page. The browser window now doesn't show my Personal Toolbar and my bookmarks are now not accessible. Further, the back and forward browser buttons no longer function. My SM preferences seem to be unchanged. Also my profile is sitting in the same place it always has. Any suggestions? TIA, Geoff ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.2 odd installation behaviour
On 7/24/2011 12:59 AM, Geoff Walker wrote: Updated my OS to MacOS Lion earlier this week. Unfortunately there are some serious known issues with MacOS Lion at this time, those issues should be fixed with SeaMonkey 2.3 (such as 2.3 beta 1) I am unsure if those issues you mention are [all] caused by the Lion upgrade however. I would recommend you do one of the following: * If possible, don't use SeaMonkey until tuesday/wednesday when we release 2.3 beta 1 * Compile from hg source yourself, (pull comm-release for the 2.2 source tag, then pull the _FIREFOX_ 5.0.1 source tag for mozilla-release, and the seamonkey release tag for the other repos) * Use Firefox/Thunderbird 5.0.1 as a workaround until SeaMonkey 2.3 [beta] is out. Once our 2.3 [at least beta] is out for you on Lion, we can revisit any further issues you might be experiencing. Thank You, -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
