Re: Is this group moderated?

[Daniel]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

rickman wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/14/2017 2:30 PM:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/14/17 11:46 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/13/2017 3:45 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If so, *WHY*?

I ask because I follow a similar group following a different fork of
Netscape.

On that group the moderator chastised a poster for suggesting
conformance to courtesy/productivity issues.

YMMV



Mozilla newsgroups are listed at
.  Those newgroups 
that are
moderated are indicated as such.  There is no indication of 
moderation

for mozilla.support.seamonkey.


True enough. But in practice, Chris Ilias removes messages that 
violate
his criteria and issues warnings both public and private. If you 
want to

call that moderation, there it is.



You have received warnings about off-topic, or other unacceptable 
posts to

this specific newsgroup?


I have. I didn't always agree with the assessment, but what could I do?

And it's not like he's fining me or firing me or putting me in jail. 
At most
it's an annoyance when it happens to me, and a pleasure when it 
happens to

real bad guys like the Italian spammer. ;-)


Do any spammers get the ax?  I have seen no indication of that.


Except for the ones in Italian I see zero spam or drama in this group.


Neither have I recently!! After I got the filter working correctly.

I'm guessing they only make it here because they come via Google groups 
... and nobody dares upset them!!


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Re: Video not playing

[Daniel]

Mr. Ed wrote:

On 12/14/17 6:47 AM, Daniel wrote:

Mr. Ed wrote:

On 12/13/17 8:35 AM, Daniel wrote:

Mr. Ed wrote:

On 12/12/17 11:26 PM, Ron wrote:

Seamonkey 248

https://www.crackle.com/huff

The ad plays but not the video works with IE


It appears to be a flash video.  The page checks for IE, Firefox, Chrome, and
Safari.
  From your headers (advertising both Firefox and SeaMonkey) it probably 
should

work if you have flash installed.

and I've seen some sites that will ignore that User Agent string if it 
mentions anything other than Firefox, i.e. having 


Hmm! The Original Poster's post does not actually have a User Agent string!! 
Just an X-Mailer string!! Are they the same thing??




  From Ron's e-mail:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48


You're right, Mr Ed. When I Forward Ron's post (with full headers), I see a 
User-Agent line, but, when I look through the full headers, directly, I see no 
mention of User Agent.


Do I need to set some Pref to display it?? I've just set 
mailnews.headers.showUserAgent to true in about:config, so I'll see if it 
shows up tomorrow!


Use the "Display User Agent" add-on or click on View/Message Source


No need!! By making the change to the mentioned pref in "about:config", 
I now see the User Agent line listed in the message header.


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Re: Downloading message body with SMTP

[Daniel]

rickman wrote:

Daniel wrote on 12/14/2017 6:37 AM:

rickman wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote on 12/13/2017 1:20 PM:

On 2017-12-12 5:17 PM, Harsha Godavari wrote:
I wanted to download all the messages from the inbox of my ISP's 
server.
There are a couple of thousand there. I use SMTP  for my mail. How 
can I

download the entire message (s) not just the headers? My browser is
Seamonkey 2.40 and  OS is Win 7 (32 bit).  Thanks for your helphg.



1. Right-click on the account, and select "Settings".
2. Select the "Synchronization & Storage" panel for the account.
3. In the top section, you should be able to set it to download 
messages for

offline use, and even specify which folders.


Is this supposed to download the message bodies for newsgroups?  It
doesn't seem to work there.  I find the messages aren't downloaded until
you view them.


SMTP = Simplified *Mail* Transfer Protocol.

Newsgroups use NNTP which is different.


Not sure what you are talking about.  The fact that different protocols 
are used is not terribly related is it?  The newsgroup account has all 
the same settings under Synchronization and Storage.  This is purely a 
SeaMonkey issue.


I don't know what the actual difference is between SMTP and NNTP, but, 
as someone somewhere, has gone to the trouble of calling them different 
things for different purposes, I'm guessing there is some difference.


If you want to download News Group Posts, try looking at your 
File->Offline

settings.


In fact, this takes me to... Synchronization and Storage for the 
newsgroup account.


Where are you seeing this?? If I'm looking at your post here in my "Mail 
& News groups" screen, and I click on "File" in the top left then select 
"Offline", I see the options for "Work Offline", Download/Sync Now", 
"Offline Settings, "Get Flagged Messages" and "Get Selected Messages". 
No mention of "Synchronization and Storage"!!


Oh!! Hang on!! Now I see you have selected "Offline Settings" and that 
has taken you to "Synchronization and Storage" screen in your News 
Account. O.K., on that screen, select "Select Newsgroups for Offline 
usage" and select those groups which you want to download onto your 
computer Hard Drive. Beware this could take up heaps and heaps of your 
Hard Drives space and Download allocation!!


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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Daniel]

Frog wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she
had just received on our computer.  I thought to myself that somehow
the "leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the
Preferences. I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was
properly set.

Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a
good house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP.

Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message?

Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from
Verizon to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem?

Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?

What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?

I'm sure that somebody has a quick fix for how to best deal with this
problem.  Please understand, while preparing your response to my call
for help, that my technical skill are limited at best.

Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated.


Frog, is it possible that you recently moved your e-mail account data
from one computer to another using CD's?? If so, this usually results in
the files being marked as "Read Only" so SM, logically, is unable to
write to those files.


Yes, my inbox files have been routinely moved from my older computers to 
newer ones...starting from the old Netscape days to today.  This is what 
caused me to think it was a good time to do a royal house cleaning of my 
Inbox...a very time consuming process to say the least.  I still believe 
it should be possible to re-designate my present Inbox message folder to 
"Old" and open a new folder.  Is it possible to take this type of action 
and how do I do this?  I think the process I am following now will be 
complete some time around my 100th birthday.


In Windows Explorer, locate your e-mail account and right click on one
of the files/folders and check its Properties is not set to "Read Only".


I was moved from Windows 7 to Windows 10 some months ago...I now 
understand that Windows Explorer in now File Explorer.  If so, I am not 
sure how to get to get to my e-mail account to click on one of the 
files/folders.  I can go to File Explorer and can find Inbox listed 
there...but I can't figure out how to enter the Inbox to see 
incoming/outgoing etc. under this heading like I once could under 
Windows Explorer.  I think that the messages are not Read Only, however, 
as they appear as a mixture of Read and Not Read in SeaMonkey when I am 
in am using the Inbox.  In any event, I was unable to follow the Windows 
Explorer path you suggested.


Hello Daniel...it has been some time since our last contact.  I'm sorry 
that I didn't reply to your message sooner.  It seems that I need 
multiples of me in order to keep up with my responsibilities right now. 
I hope things will settle down somewhat after the start of the new 
year...I certainly hope that will be the case.


Frog

Frog, what you might need to do is set yourself up with several folders 
in your e-mail account. I normally have my Inbox, a Family folder, a 
Church folder, a Mozilla folder (for these groups), a Usenet folder (for 
my UseNet posts), a Genealogy folder, ... etc., etc. These should all be 
created by SeaMonkey at the same level as your Inbox.


These can be set up, in SeaMonkey, by selecting your e-mail account then 
selecting File->New->Folder and call it something you understand. Do 
this as many times as you need. Then drag and drop your e-mails into the 
appropriate (new) box.


I then go one step further and create an "Archives" folder under my 
"Local Folders" account with a sub-folder for 2017, etc., and "Drag & 
Drop" the folders from the e-mail account to the "2017" folder on or 
about 1st Jan. SeaMonkey then creates a new Inbox in the e-mail account 
when you re-start SeaMonkey, but you will need to re-create the other 
folders.


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Re: Assess error (possibly do to SM blocking)

[stan]

I am on SM 2.49.1, same error:
Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.godaddy.com/; on this 
server.


Reference #18.d62e12d1.1513316090.19f0b7b2

Other browsers work a OK, GoDaddy.com claims that it can't be on their side.

Could it be some virus?


stan wrote:

It did not worked.
Where did you got SM 2.49.1?
Highest I see is SM 2.46




WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/12/17 2:14 PM, stan wrote:

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.godaddy.com/?; on this
server.

Reference #18.6c384317.1513105848.26ec1d4a


No problem accessing it here using SM 2.49.1.

Restart in Safe Mode and try again. If it works, one of your extensions
is causing your problem.

Or try 





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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[WaltS48]

On 12/14/17 7:46 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Dirk Munk:


There used to be a setting that made HTML the default setting when
sending a mail message. However that setting no longer exists.

Really? In my SM-Trunk it is still there.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171215.png

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2017121418 
SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h


Hartmut


You're right, the composing itself is in HTML. But the sending process 
will change it to plain text by default.


Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Send Format in my SM 2.49.1.


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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[Dirk Munk]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Dirk Munk:


There used to be a setting that made HTML the default setting when
sending a mail message. However that setting no longer exists.

Really? In my SM-Trunk it is still there.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171215.png

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2017121418 SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h

Hartmut


You're right, the composing itself is in HTML. But the sending process 
will change it to plain text by default.

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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[Hartmut Figge]

Dirk Munk:

>There used to be a setting that made HTML the default setting when 
>sending a mail message. However that setting no longer exists.

Really? In my SM-Trunk it is still there.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171215.png

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2017121418 SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h

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using HTML as default in mail messages

[Dirk Munk]

There used to be a setting that made HTML the default setting when 
sending a mail message. However that setting no longer exists.


I know I can add the "likes to receive in HTML" setting in address book 
entries, and I can use the HTML option setting when sending te message.


But I would like to make HTML my standard setting for all messages. If a 
message should be send unformatted, then I can always choose to do so.


Is there a setting that I can use to achieve this?
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Re: Is this group moderated?

[Paul in Houston, TX]

rickman wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/14/2017 2:30 PM:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/14/17 11:46 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/13/2017 3:45 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If so, *WHY*?

I ask because I follow a similar group following a different fork of
Netscape.

On that group the moderator chastised a poster for suggesting
conformance to courtesy/productivity issues.

YMMV



Mozilla newsgroups are listed at
.  Those newgroups that are
moderated are indicated as such.  There is no indication of moderation
for mozilla.support.seamonkey.


True enough. But in practice, Chris Ilias removes messages that violate
his criteria and issues warnings both public and private. If you want to
call that moderation, there it is.



You have received warnings about off-topic, or other unacceptable posts to
this specific newsgroup?


I have. I didn't always agree with the assessment, but what could I do?

And it's not like he's fining me or firing me or putting me in jail. At most
it's an annoyance when it happens to me, and a pleasure when it happens to
real bad guys like the Italian spammer. ;-)


Do any spammers get the ax?  I have seen no indication of that.


Except for the ones in Italian I see zero spam or drama in this group.

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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[Paul B. Gallagher]

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as not 
junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. Why 
would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked as 
read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good sense 
to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk message by 
mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[EE]

Steve Dunn wrote:

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, 
FL). Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have 
the address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get 
SM to stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but 
I can get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in your 
address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> {the 
account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk buttons 
don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on called 
JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


-Steve


What do you mean those buttons are not appearing everywhere?  Is one or 
the other not in the main toolbar?  If not, put it there.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Steve Dunn wrote:

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, 
FL). Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have 
the address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get 
SM to stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but 
I can get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in 
your address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> 
{the account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk 
buttons don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on 
called JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at the 
top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as not junk. 
But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[EE]

Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, FL). 
Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have the 
address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get SM to 
stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but I can 
get another one the next day and it gets flagged.



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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Ray_Net]

Frog wrote on 14-12-17 19:33:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Frog wrote:


Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?

What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?


Create a new folder, name it something like 'Inbox, needs attention' --
then move all the messages in the regular inbox to this new folder. This
may take some time, but it will clear your regular inbox.



Thanks Bill for your reply to my message.

I presently am going message by message to remove those I don't think 
I need to keep.  It would save a lot of time to simply create a new 
folder under Local Folders for the messages presently located in my 
Inbox...thus, I could simply move each message to this folder without 
having to read it first before making a decision (based on content) to 
either delete or keep a message. Am I likely to hit another computer 
generated message that a folder under Local Folders is Full?


Sorry for my delay in responding to your message...it was much 
appreciated.


Frog



Don't forget to "Compact this folder" to gain space.
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Re: Downloading message body with SMTP

[rickman]

Daniel wrote on 12/14/2017 6:37 AM:

rickman wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote on 12/13/2017 1:20 PM:

On 2017-12-12 5:17 PM, Harsha Godavari wrote:

I wanted to download all the messages from the inbox of my ISP's server.
There are a couple of thousand there. I use SMTP  for my mail. How can I
download the entire message (s) not just the headers? My browser is
Seamonkey 2.40 and  OS is Win 7 (32 bit).  Thanks for your helphg.



1. Right-click on the account, and select "Settings".
2. Select the "Synchronization & Storage" panel for the account.
3. In the top section, you should be able to set it to download messages for
offline use, and even specify which folders.


Is this supposed to download the message bodies for newsgroups?  It
doesn't seem to work there.  I find the messages aren't downloaded until
you view them.


SMTP = Simplified *Mail* Transfer Protocol.

Newsgroups use NNTP which is different.


Not sure what you are talking about.  The fact that different protocols are 
used is not terribly related is it?  The newsgroup account has all the same 
settings under Synchronization and Storage.  This is purely a SeaMonkey issue.




If you want to download News Group Posts, try looking at your File->Offline
settings.


In fact, this takes me to... Synchronization and Storage for the newsgroup 
account.


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Re: Is this group moderated?

[rickman]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/14/2017 2:30 PM:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/14/17 11:46 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/13/2017 3:45 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If so, *WHY*?

I ask because I follow a similar group following a different fork of
Netscape.

On that group the moderator chastised a poster for suggesting
conformance to courtesy/productivity issues.

YMMV



Mozilla newsgroups are listed at
.  Those newgroups that are
moderated are indicated as such.  There is no indication of moderation
for mozilla.support.seamonkey.


True enough. But in practice, Chris Ilias removes messages that violate
his criteria and issues warnings both public and private. If you want to
call that moderation, there it is.



You have received warnings about off-topic, or other unacceptable posts to
this specific newsgroup?


I have. I didn't always agree with the assessment, but what could I do?

And it's not like he's fining me or firing me or putting me in jail. At most
it's an annoyance when it happens to me, and a pleasure when it happens to
real bad guys like the Italian spammer. ;-)


Do any spammers get the ax?  I have seen no indication of that.

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Re: Is this group moderated?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/14/17 11:46 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/13/2017 3:45 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If so, *WHY*?

I ask because I follow a similar group following a different fork of
Netscape.

On that group the moderator chastised a poster for suggesting
conformance to courtesy/productivity issues.

YMMV



Mozilla newsgroups are listed at
.  Those newgroups that are
moderated are indicated as such.  There is no indication of moderation
for mozilla.support.seamonkey.


True enough. But in practice, Chris Ilias removes messages that 
violate his criteria and issues warnings both public and private. If 
you want to call that moderation, there it is.




You have received warnings about off-topic, or other unacceptable posts 
to this specific newsgroup?


I have. I didn't always agree with the assessment, but what could I do?

And it's not like he's fining me or firing me or putting me in jail. At 
most it's an annoyance when it happens to me, and a pleasure when it 
happens to real bad guys like the Italian spammer. ;-)


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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Frog]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Frog wrote:


Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?

What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?


Create a new folder, name it something like 'Inbox, needs attention' --
then move all the messages in the regular inbox to this new folder. This
may take some time, but it will clear your regular inbox.



Thanks Bill for your reply to my message.

I presently am going message by message to remove those I don't think I 
need to keep.  It would save a lot of time to simply create a new folder 
under Local Folders for the messages presently located in my 
Inbox...thus, I could simply move each message to this folder without 
having to read it first before making a decision (based on content) to 
either delete or keep a message. Am I likely to hit another computer 
generated message that a folder under Local Folders is Full?


Sorry for my delay in responding to your message...it was much appreciated.

Frog


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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Frog]

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she
had just received on our computer.  I thought to myself that somehow
the "leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the
Preferences. I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was
properly set.

Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a
good house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP.

Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message?

Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from
Verizon to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem?

Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?

What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages?

I'm sure that somebody has a quick fix for how to best deal with this
problem.  Please understand, while preparing your response to my call
for help, that my technical skill are limited at best.

Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated.

Frog


Frog, is it possible that you recently moved your e-mail account data
from one computer to another using CD's?? If so, this usually results in
the files being marked as "Read Only" so SM, logically, is unable to
write to those files.


Yes, my inbox files have been routinely moved from my older computers to 
newer ones...starting from the old Netscape days to today.  This is what 
caused me to think it was a good time to do a royal house cleaning of my 
Inbox...a very time consuming process to say the least.  I still believe 
it should be possible to re-designate my present Inbox message folder to 
"Old" and open a new folder.  Is it possible to take this type of action 
and how do I do this?  I think the process I am following now will be 
complete some time around my 100th birthday.


In Windows Explorer, locate your e-mail account and right click on one
of the files/folders and check its Properties is not set to "Read Only".


I was moved from Windows 7 to Windows 10 some months ago...I now 
understand that Windows Explorer in now File Explorer.  If so, I am not 
sure how to get to get to my e-mail account to click on one of the 
files/folders.  I can go to File Explorer and can find Inbox listed 
there...but I can't figure out how to enter the Inbox to see 
incoming/outgoing etc. under this heading like I once could under 
Windows Explorer.  I think that the messages are not Read Only, however, 
as they appear as a mixture of Read and Not Read in SeaMonkey when I am 
in am using the Inbox.  In any event, I was unable to follow the Windows 
Explorer path you suggested.




Hello Daniel...it has been some time since our last contact.  I'm sorry 
that I didn't reply to your message sooner.  It seems that I need 
multiples of me in order to keep up with my responsibilities right now. 
I hope things will settle down somewhat after the start of the new 
year...I certainly hope that will be the case.


Frog


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Re: Is this group moderated?

[rickman]

WaltS48 wrote on 12/14/2017 11:51 AM:

On 12/14/17 11:46 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/13/2017 3:45 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If so, *WHY*?

I ask because I follow a similar group following a different fork of
Netscape.

On that group the moderator chastised a poster for suggesting
conformance to courtesy/productivity issues.

YMMV



Mozilla newsgroups are listed at
.  Those newgroups that are
moderated are indicated as such.  There is no indication of moderation
for mozilla.support.seamonkey.


True enough. But in practice, Chris Ilias removes messages that violate
his criteria and issues warnings both public and private. If you want to
call that moderation, there it is.



You have received warnings about off-topic, or other unacceptable posts to
this specific newsgroup?

Since this whole thread is off-topic, someone should have by now. :)


I've had a message removed from the group because


Subject: Re: Seamonkey Icons
From: Chris Ilias 
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org


On 2017-06-02 1:26 PM, MozUser wrote:



Hi MozUser,
As per the policy at 
, I've removed your 
post from the server, because it contains a personal attack.


I think he addressed the salutation to MozUser because it was my quote of 
his message that contained the objectionable comment.  Something involving 
the word "twit" which in itself I don't think is a problem.  I believe three 
messages were removed, the original and two that quoted it.


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Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46

[Frog]

Felix Miata wrote:

Frog composed on 2017-12-12 01:17 (UTC-0500):


My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she had
just received on our computer.  I thought to myself that somehow the
"leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the Preferences.
I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was properly set.



Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a good
house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP.



Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message?


I don't think so, unless disk space is exhausted where inbox lives.


Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from Verizon
to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem?


I have to think it could well be related. Many individual spams are getting
awfully big. AOL's inbox space might not be big enough to hold messages for the
specified length of time. If she's leaving messages on server for 30 days, try
cutting back to 10 or 14. Check with AOL if inbox size can be increased.

If none are being left on server yet AOL inbox is full, something must be wrong
either with SM or AOL.

I have two POP mail accounts, one set to leave on server 11 days, the other 25.
The one set to 11 is using about 25MB. The one set to 25 is only using about
5MB, but I just reduced it from around 37MB by deleting all emails 3 digits
large, which were running e.g. 159, 164, 241 & 316 KB.

How often does she compact folders? I do it daily. If she never does, maybe
doing it is overdue, especially if triple digit spams have been routinely
reaching it.

Thanks Felix for your reply.  I do check my mail several times a day so 
I don't think the build-up is located at AOL. As I stated earlier, my 
preferences are set to remove my messages from my ISP when they are 
downloaded to my computer.  I have resolved that my problem must have to 
do with the volume of messages stored in my Inbox...thus, I am now in 
the throws of doing a thorough house cleaning of my Inbox.  I hope this 
going to solve my problem.


Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this subject...I have been 
involved with Christmas shopping (wife is handicapped)...church 
activities...and undergoing a complete physical...among other seasonal 
activities.


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Re: Is this group moderated?

[WaltS48]

On 12/14/17 11:46 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/13/2017 3:45 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If so, *WHY*?

I ask because I follow a similar group following a different fork of
Netscape.

On that group the moderator chastised a poster for suggesting
conformance to courtesy/productivity issues.

YMMV



Mozilla newsgroups are listed at
.  Those newgroups that are
moderated are indicated as such.  There is no indication of moderation
for mozilla.support.seamonkey.


True enough. But in practice, Chris Ilias removes messages that violate 
his criteria and issues warnings both public and private. If you want to 
call that moderation, there it is.




You have received warnings about off-topic, or other unacceptable posts 
to this specific newsgroup?


Since this whole thread is off-topic, someone should have by now. :)

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Re: Is this group moderated?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/13/2017 3:45 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If so, *WHY*?

I ask because I follow a similar group following a different fork of
Netscape.

On that group the moderator chastised a poster for suggesting
conformance to courtesy/productivity issues.

YMMV



Mozilla newsgroups are listed at
.  Those newgroups that are
moderated are indicated as such.  There is no indication of moderation
for mozilla.support.seamonkey.


True enough. But in practice, Chris Ilias removes messages that violate 
his criteria and issues warnings both public and private. If you want to 
call that moderation, there it is.


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Re: American Express web site not working properly with SM 2.48

[rjkrjk]

update.. as of this date  12/14/17

I logged on to AX, and was able to make a payment
nothing changed with SM2.48, or my computer.so
one can assume that AX changed their site

very happy now !!





rjkrjk wrote on 10/18/17 1:33 PM:



Ray_Net wrote on 10/17/17 9:44 AM:

rjkrjk wrote on 17-10-17 15:00:



Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 10/16/17 10:48 PM:

rjkrjk wrote:


you're absolutely correctthats what I got, so I looked it up,
kinda hard to believe that the AX website, crashed, overloaded or
other very simple explanations.

for anyone else having this problem, I cut/pasted the
explanation
..

To quote the definition of 502 Bad Gateway from Wikipedia: "The
server was acting as a gateway or proxy and received an invalid
response from the upstream server." There are many other 5xx server
error messages, all of which boil down to: "The server failed to
fulfill an apparently valid request." They don't tell you much about
the real source of the problem.

The second thing to try is a different browser. There are plenty to
choose from, and there's no reason why you can't run two at a time.
At the moment, I'm running Mozilla Firefox 22 and Microsoft's
Internet Explorer 10 on Windows 7. If a site doesn't work or looks
broken in one browser, it only takes a second or two to paste the
address into the other.
...


If the problem is with the server, what difference does it make what the user 
does? Will a
different browser generate a different command that the upstream server might 
be able to
handle?



it seems that it does for some strange reason
SM... didnt work
FF worked


The User Agent string are different ...
FF say: I am FF
SM say: I am SM and also I am FF


that's surely the initial problemthere are probably other issues after that











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Re: Video not playing

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:

You're right, Mr Ed. When I Forward Ron's post (with full headers), I 
see a User-Agent line, but, when I look through the full headers, 
directly, I see no mention of User Agent.


Do I need to set some Pref to display it?? I've just set 
mailnews.headers.showUserAgent to true in about:config, so I'll see if 
it shows up tomorrow!



If you select his message and do CTRL-U (View | Message Source), you'll 
see it right after the date.


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Re: Is this group moderated?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/13/2017 3:45 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> If so, *WHY*?
> 
> I ask because I follow a similar group following a different fork of 
> Netscape.
> 
> On that group the moderator chastised a poster for suggesting 
> conformance to courtesy/productivity issues.
> 
> YMMV
> 

Mozilla newsgroups are listed at
.  Those newgroups that are
moderated are indicated as such.  There is no indication of moderation
for mozilla.support.seamonkey.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Steve Dunn wrote:

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, 
FL). Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have 
the address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get 
SM to stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but 
I can get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in your 
address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> {the 
account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk buttons 
don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on called 
JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at the 
top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as not junk. 
But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. Why would I?


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[Steve Dunn]

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, FL). 
Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have the 
address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get SM to 
stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but I can 
get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in your 
address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> {the 
account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk buttons 
don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on called 
JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


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Re: Is this group moderated?

[Daniel]

Richard Owlett wrote:

If so, *WHY*?

I ask because I follow a similar group following a different fork of 
Netscape.


On that group the moderator chastised a poster for suggesting 
conformance to courtesy/productivity issues.


YMMV


"following a different fork of Netscape." ... Wow, that's old!!

Yes, the support groups on the Mozilla news server is moderated ... 
until you establish yourself as a poster in good standing, then you are 
set to "auto-approval"!


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Re: Video not playing

[Mr. Ed]

  
  
On 12/14/17 6:47 AM, Daniel wrote:

Mr. Ed
  wrote:
  
  On 12/13/17 8:35 AM, Daniel wrote:

Mr. Ed wrote:
  
  On 12/12/17 11:26 PM, Ron wrote:

Seamonkey 248
  
  
  https://www.crackle.com/huff
  
  
  The ad plays but not the video works with IE
  


It appears to be a flash video.  The page checks for IE,
Firefox, Chrome, and

Safari.

  From your headers (advertising both Firefox and SeaMonkey)
it probably should

work if you have flash installed.


  
  and I've seen some sites that will ignore that User Agent
  string if it mentions anything other than Firefox, i.e. having
  
  
  
  Hmm! The Original Poster's post does not actually have a User
  Agent string!! Just an X-Mailer string!! Are they the same
  thing??
  
  


  From Ron's e-mail:


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48


  
  You're right, Mr Ed. When I Forward Ron's post (with full
  headers), I see a User-Agent line, but, when I look through the
  full headers, directly, I see no mention of User Agent.
  
  
  Do I need to set some Pref to display it?? I've just set
  mailnews.headers.showUserAgent to true in about:config, so I'll
  see if it shows up tomorrow!
  
  


Use the "Display User Agent" add-on or 
  click on View/Message Source

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Re: Is Filter function working in SM 2.49.1??

[Daniel]

NFN Smith wrote:

Daniel wrote:
There is an ongoing situation in this, and I guess other Mozilla 
support groups, where some "Italian" person is posting messages, in 
Italian, complaining about Italian Criminal activities.


I've created a filter in an attempt to "remove" these posts before I 
have to read them. I've picked out five words, including "PEDOFILO" 
and marked them "Mark as Read" and "Ignore Thread", but today, one of 
those messages is still visible, i.e. Unread, ... well, was, until I 
clicked on it!!


Is it just me that is having problems with these posts or are others 
seeing posts which should have been invisible as well??



I have a filter that's working well, and I'm not seeing any of that 
garbage.


I have about 8-10 words that are commonly used in subject lines, where I 
have the filter set to "Match any of the following, and then the Action 
section set to "ignore thread".


When you're doing this kind of filter, the easiest mistake to make is 
that the default setting is "Match all of the following", and you need 
to make sure it gets set to "Match any of the following".


Smith


Doh!! I'm sure I had it "Match any ..."  in the Profile that I 
deleted last week!! ;-( Doh!! again ;-(


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Re: Video not playing

[Daniel]

Mr. Ed wrote:

On 12/13/17 8:35 AM, Daniel wrote:

Mr. Ed wrote:

On 12/12/17 11:26 PM, Ron wrote:

Seamonkey 248

https://www.crackle.com/huff

The ad plays but not the video works with IE


It appears to be a flash video.  The page checks for IE, Firefox, Chrome, and
Safari.
  From your headers (advertising both Firefox and SeaMonkey) it probably should
work if you have flash installed.

and I've seen some sites that will ignore that User Agent string if it 
mentions anything other than Firefox, i.e. having 


Hmm! The Original Poster's post does not actually have a User Agent string!! 
Just an X-Mailer string!! Are they the same thing??




  From Ron's e-mail:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48

You're right, Mr Ed. When I Forward Ron's post (with full headers), I 
see a User-Agent line, but, when I look through the full headers, 
directly, I see no mention of User Agent.


Do I need to set some Pref to display it?? I've just set 
mailnews.headers.showUserAgent to true in about:config, so I'll see if 
it shows up tomorrow!


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Re: Downloading message body with SMTP

[Daniel]

rickman wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote on 12/13/2017 1:20 PM:

On 2017-12-12 5:17 PM, Harsha Godavari wrote:

I wanted to download all the messages from the inbox of my ISP's server.
There are a couple of thousand there. I use SMTP  for my mail. How can I
download the entire message (s) not just the headers? My browser is
Seamonkey 2.40 and  OS is Win 7 (32 bit).  Thanks for your helphg.



1. Right-click on the account, and select "Settings".
2. Select the "Synchronization & Storage" panel for the account.
3. In the top section, you should be able to set it to download 
messages for

offline use, and even specify which folders.


Is this supposed to download the message bodies for newsgroups?  It 
doesn't seem to work there.  I find the messages aren't downloaded until 
you view them.



SMTP = Simplified *Mail* Transfer Protocol.

Newsgroups use NNTP which is different.

If you want to download News Group Posts, try looking at your 
File->Offline settings.


HTH

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