SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on Windows not finding the 2.49.2 update

[Adrian Kalla]

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Hi everyone,

it seems like SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on Windows is not finding the new update.

My configuration:

SeaMonkey version: 2.49.1 (32bit)
SeaMonkey locale: pl
Windows version: 10 (64bit)

Updating from older SeaMonkey versions, like 2.46, to the current one is
expected not to work, it should work from 2.49.1 on, shouldn't it?

Best,
Adrian
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Re: E MAIL CRASHES ON 2.48

[Adrian Kalla]

02.08.2017 21:59, Adrian Kalla:
>  02.08.2017 21:42, wwel...@gmail.com:
>> I have a Mac and just downloaded SM 2.48. The problem is that when I attempt 
>> to open an e mail the whole program crashed!

or... did you mean opening an existing email or creating a new one?
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Re: E MAIL CRASHES ON 2.48

[Adrian Kalla]

 02.08.2017 21:42, wwel...@gmail.com:
> I have a Mac and just downloaded SM 2.48. The problem is that when I attempt 
> to open an e mail the whole program crashed!

This was supposed to be fixed in 2.48...:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364977

Core bug for this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1308923
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Re: Language pack 2.49.1 not working

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 14.07.2017 o 14:31, Daniel pisze:
> On 14/07/2017 3:01 AM, EE wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> On 13/07/2017 4:51 PM, Adrian Kalla wrote:
>>>> W dniu 12.07.2017 o 20:08, EE pisze:
>>>>>> You have to choose the locale first in the preferences (under "View")
>>>>>> and then restart SeaMonkey. Just installing a language pack does not
>>>>>> switch the language.
>>>>>>
>>>>> There is no "locale" in any of the menus.  View (on MacOS) has:
>>>>> Show/Hide, Full Screen, Stop, Reload, Zoom, Use Style, Text Encoding,
>>>>> Page Source, Page Info, Apply Theme, and Enter Full Screen.
>>>>> I did find "language" in the Preferences, however, so you put me on
>>>>> the
>>>>> right track.  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> I said "preferences (under "View")", not "menu (under "View")" ;)
>>>>
>>> but, in SeaMonkey, "Preferences" appears under "Edit" doesn't it??
>>>
>> In Mac SeaMonkey, Preferences is under "SeaMonkey".
>>
> Ah!! O.K., but not under "View" as indicated above??
> 


With 'under "View"' I meant the fact where you can find the language
setting - and not the place where you can find the place to open the
preferences...
As I use the Polish version of SeaMonkey on a daily basis I
misremembered how the section is named in en-US and thought it was
"View" instead of "Appearance"...
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Re: Language pack 2.49.1 not working

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 12.07.2017 o 20:08, EE pisze:
>> You have to choose the locale first in the preferences (under "View")
>> and then restart SeaMonkey. Just installing a language pack does not
>> switch the language.
>>
> There is no "locale" in any of the menus.  View (on MacOS) has:
> Show/Hide, Full Screen, Stop, Reload, Zoom, Use Style, Text Encoding,
> Page Source, Page Info, Apply Theme, and Enter Full Screen.
> I did find "language" in the Preferences, however, so you put me on the
> right track.  Thanks.

I said "preferences (under "View")", not "menu (under "View")" ;)
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Re: Language pack 2.49.1 not working

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 11.07.2017 o 20:20, EE pisze:
> I do not see an en-GB version of the installer for SeaMonkey.  I got and
> installed the language pack, but it does nothing.


You have to choose the locale first in the preferences (under "View")
and then restart SeaMonkey. Just installing a language pack does not
switch the language.

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Re: New Crash Report Situation (W10 pro, 64b, desktop)

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 02.07.2017 o 18:43, bo1953 pisze:
> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> The last two are out of memory errors. Do you have only 2GB in your PC?
>> If yes upgrade to 4 GB and see if the errors go away.  2GB and any
>> recent Windows version asks for trouble.


You forgot about this:
> Build Architecture x86

There are two options:
1) Either this is a 32 bit Windows 10
2) or: as he is using a 32 bit build, I think he is hitting the 32 bit
limit any 32 bit application can use...

Adrian
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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 12/27/2016 o 07:10 PM, Ken Rudolph pisze:
> Thank you.  I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0
> that an update has failed so disastrously.  This really scares me, since
> I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey.


To be honest: as no one reported similar problems, it is very likely
that you either have incompatible addons installed (tried safe mode with
all addons disabled?) or something in your profile is broken (tried
temporarily a new profile?).
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Unofficial SeaMonkey L10n builds for Mac - now available

[Adrian Kalla]

First time in over five years that I did build something for Mac, so I
wouldn't be surprised if there was trouble hidden somewhere - so backup
your important stuff before even trying out the following:

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-mac64/

Attention: As with the current Firefox version, this will not work on
OSX 10.8 and older!

Best,
Adrian
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Re: SM update status...

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 12/02/2016 o 09:43 PM, Mr. Ed pisze:
> If you want an unofficial 64 bit version of SM you can get it here:
> http://www.m64.info/index.php/seamonkey-64-bit-download


I'd recommend to never ever put links to that site anywhere. For many
reasons:
1st, because they just take my builds and make it appear like this were
releases (the small text "Unofficial Nightly" is not enough for most
people to understand, what that build really is)
2nd, because that site looks like it could start serving malware any
moment (this site looks all but serious for me) - and there is
absolutely nothing I can do to prevent this
3rd, when the people get the link to
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
instead, they also get the opportunity to download the localized
versions that are not provided by m64.info

Best,
Adrian
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Re: 0day exploit - Security update for SeaMonkey needed?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 12/02/2016 o 08:13 PM, Lee pisze:
> 
>> Official one is still stuck in l10n mud.
> 
> Stuck how?
> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/
> has lots of seamonkey-2.47.XX.langpack.xpi files - do they not work,
> is it just a packaging problem getting the autoupdate functionality
> for the different language versions or ???

To have language packs as well as completely localized versions building
I need to apply a few patches & workarounds & hacks - as this not
working out of the box, unfortunately.

What I still don't get is, that exactly the same patches & workarounds &
hacks seem not work for ewong for producing the official builds...

Best,
Adrian
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Re: SM update status...

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 12/02/2016 o 06:05 PM, Paul B. Gallagher pisze:
> WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 12/02/2016 11:26 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Mr. Ed wrote:
>>>
 This morning when opening SM it automatically downloaded and
 installed the latest 2.47 (12/01).
>>>
>>> Really!?
>>>
>>> My SM 2.40, when asked manually to check for updates, says none are
>>> available.
>>>
>>
>> Unless they haven't updated  it is
>> the latest official version.
> 
> Not sure which "it" you mean, but the project website offers 2.40, which
> is what I have. So how did Mr. Ed get an automatic update?

He seems to use my unofficial builds.
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Re: 2.46 Install file

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 11/28/2016 o 04:41 PM, WaltS48 pisze:
> On 11/28/2016 10:15 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
>> I'm running SM 2.46 on the "default update channel."
>>
>> I go to  and look in releases
>> and even nightlies and can't find the Windows install file for 2.46.
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
> 
> Maybe you installed build6 from
> 

Nope. "default update channel" means "no update channel". Looks like
that build was neither an official one nor did it come from my
unofficial repository - as those usually have the proper update channel set.

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Re: [Resolved] Re: 2.46 updates?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 10/20/2016 o 11:19 AM, Rainer Ullrich pisze:
> The confusing point is:
> On a windows 64bit, if you have installed such a *32bit* preview 2.46
> SeaMonkey,
> and you click on "Help->Check for update", you will be offered a 2.46
> update!
> 
> If you accept this update, your 32bit SeaMonkey will be replaced with an
> *unofficial* preview 2.46 SeaMonkey, but in *64bit*.

As of yesterday, this should not happen on any branch anymore, as I have
ported my update-server-fix from the release branch to all the other
branches. So please check if this behavior still really happens, as this
would be unexpected.

The Update NoOp saw was just yet another unofficial "nightly" from the
"release" branch - as they don't change version numbers (to e.g. 2.46.1)
as long as the official version number in that branch was not changed.

Best,
Adrian
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Re: [Resolved] Re: 2.46 updates?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 10/18/2016 o 08:05 AM, Daniel pisze:
> On 18/10/2016 2:10 AM, Adrian Kalla wrote:
>> W dniu 10/17/2016 o 03:13 PM, Daniel pisze:
>>> On 17/10/2016 2:44 PM, NoOp wrote:
>>>> On 10/13/2016 12:47 PM, Adrian Kalla wrote:
>>>>> W dniu 10/12/2016 o 06:51 PM, NoOp pisze:
>>>>>> Yeah, I was as my download history shows that I downloaded 2.46 on
>>>>>> 9/9
>>>>>> from Adrian Kalla's (wave to Adrian) directory:
>>>>>> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (latest-comm-release-<>).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just surprised that the update notice actually worked,
>>>>>> however...
>>>>>> Prior to the update I was running the 32bit version:
>>>>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
>>>>>> Firefox/49.0
>>>>>> SeaMonkey/2.46
>>>>>> and the update changed my install to 64bit. I had purposely switched
>>>>>> back to 32bit because of plugin problems (Shockwave Flash is the only
>>>>>> plugin that shows up in about:plugins with 64bit. Plus the 64bit
>>>>>> update
>>>>>> borked my Lightning calendar & I had to reinstall to 5.1 to get my
>>>>>> calendar back. Now I have to go back and download the 32bit version &
>>>>>> reinstall so that I can get my plugins to work again :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: on the linux update all is OK as that was running 64bit and all
>>>>>> the plugins work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll post back after I revert back to 32bit...
>>>>>
>>>>> Mozilla recently changed the parameters attached to the update-URL and
>>>>> it looks like I've configured the update server incorrectly...
>>>>> I hope I've fixed it now for the RELEASE branch. Please check, if the
>>>>> the upgrade to 64bit from 32bit still happens on Windows.
>>>>> If it should really work, then I'll fix it for the other branches too
>>>>> (please be so kind to send me an email, as I don't check the groups
>>>>> on a
>>>>> regular basis).
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Adrian,
>>>>
>>>> The new update works just fine :-)
>>>>
>>>> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
>>>> Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
>>>> Build identifier: 20161016181837
>>>>
>>> I just went to my SM browser, clicked Help->Check for updates and was
>>> told there were no updates for my WIN7 WOW64 SM!!
>>>
>>
>>
>> What version exactly? Where downloaded from?
>>
> Do as Paul suggests or, even easier, have a look at my Sig!! WOW64 SM
> 2.40 direct from the SeaMonkey Project web page.
> 


Then everything works for you as expected.
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Re: [Resolved] Re: 2.46 updates?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 10/17/2016 o 03:13 PM, Daniel pisze:
> On 17/10/2016 2:44 PM, NoOp wrote:
>> On 10/13/2016 12:47 PM, Adrian Kalla wrote:
>>> W dniu 10/12/2016 o 06:51 PM, NoOp pisze:
>>>> Yeah, I was as my download history shows that I downloaded 2.46 on 9/9
>>>> from Adrian Kalla's (wave to Adrian) directory:
>>>> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
>>>>
>>>> (latest-comm-release-<>).
>>>>
>>>> I was just surprised that the update notice actually worked, however...
>>>> Prior to the update I was running the 32bit version:
>>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
>>>> Firefox/49.0
>>>> SeaMonkey/2.46
>>>> and the update changed my install to 64bit. I had purposely switched
>>>> back to 32bit because of plugin problems (Shockwave Flash is the only
>>>> plugin that shows up in about:plugins with 64bit. Plus the 64bit update
>>>> borked my Lightning calendar & I had to reinstall to 5.1 to get my
>>>> calendar back. Now I have to go back and download the 32bit version &
>>>> reinstall so that I can get my plugins to work again :-(
>>>>
>>>> Note: on the linux update all is OK as that was running 64bit and all
>>>> the plugins work.
>>>>
>>>> I'll post back after I revert back to 32bit...
>>>
>>> Mozilla recently changed the parameters attached to the update-URL and
>>> it looks like I've configured the update server incorrectly...
>>> I hope I've fixed it now for the RELEASE branch. Please check, if the
>>> the upgrade to 64bit from 32bit still happens on Windows.
>>> If it should really work, then I'll fix it for the other branches too
>>> (please be so kind to send me an email, as I don't check the groups on a
>>> regular basis).
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Adrian,
>>
>> The new update works just fine :-)
>>
>> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
>> Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
>> Build identifier: 20161016181837
>>
> I just went to my SM browser, clicked Help->Check for updates and was
> told there were no updates for my WIN7 WOW64 SM!!
> 


What version exactly? Where downloaded from?
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Re: 2.46 updates?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 10/12/2016 o 06:51 PM, NoOp pisze:
> Yeah, I was as my download history shows that I downloaded 2.46 on 9/9
> from Adrian Kalla's (wave to Adrian) directory:
> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/
> (latest-comm-release-<>).
> 
> I was just surprised that the update notice actually worked, however...
> Prior to the update I was running the 32bit version:
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0
> SeaMonkey/2.46
> and the update changed my install to 64bit. I had purposely switched
> back to 32bit because of plugin problems (Shockwave Flash is the only
> plugin that shows up in about:plugins with 64bit. Plus the 64bit update
> borked my Lightning calendar & I had to reinstall to 5.1 to get my
> calendar back. Now I have to go back and download the 32bit version &
> reinstall so that I can get my plugins to work again :-(
> 
> Note: on the linux update all is OK as that was running 64bit and all
> the plugins work.
> 
> I'll post back after I revert back to 32bit...

Mozilla recently changed the parameters attached to the update-URL and
it looks like I've configured the update server incorrectly...
I hope I've fixed it now for the RELEASE branch. Please check, if the
the upgrade to 64bit from 32bit still happens on Windows.
If it should really work, then I'll fix it for the other branches too
(please be so kind to send me an email, as I don't check the groups on a
regular basis).

Best,
Adrian



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Re: Is "SeaMonkey 2.40" the last version, or will there be further updates?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/24/2016 o 05:14 AM, pthf1n...@gmail.com pisze:
> anybody have a link to a viable version of Seamonkey later than 2.40?

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

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Re: Seamonkey release?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/10/2016 o 05:46 PM, »Q« pisze:
>> Agreed but gtk3 itself is a pile of and at some point sticking to
>> gtk2 will no longer work ... I use Linux only occasionally but I am
>> quite sure this is/will become a problem for Firefox too. 2.45 was
>> supposed to use gtk2. I will ask in the next status meeting if we
>> should switch at least aurora, beta and release to gtk2 until the
>> problems are solved.
> 
> It definitely is a problem for Firefox.  AIUI, Mozilla have deprecated
> building Firefox using gtk2, but haven't said anything about the time
> frame for fully dropping support for building that way.  If you find
> out anything from them about this, please post back.
> 

It will likely be as always: GTK2-bugs won't be fixed anymore and with
time GTK2-Firefox/Thunderbird/SeaMonkey will not work properly or even
not build. It will just happen. And some time after that, the build
switch for GTK2 will be removed.

GTK2 is a dead horse. GTK2 with Gecko is even more dead. I wouldn't
waste any time to let it keep breathing. Just choose a decent GTK3-theme
and all your problems will vanish.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 released

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 03/17/2016 o 08:09 PM, Gabriel pisze:
> I already have this release:
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:43.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40
> Build identifier: 20160120191716
> 
> Do I need to download the current full installer, or is it the same
> version?

Yes, you do, as your build is from January, not March...

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Re: Very quiet in https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 01/30/2016 o 10:51 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl pisze:
> Mozilla changed a lot of stuff in the last two months.
> 
> comm-aurora and comm-central builds are still broken by bug 1238428. My local 
> Windows l10n builds did not succeed without private patches because of 
> Chatzilla 
> and debugQA problems.


What patches are that? Where can I find them to integrate them into my
patch queue? ;)

Best,
Adrian

P.S. Even after applying the patch for bug 1238428, c-a and c-c do not
build... Even more patches needed :/
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 10/09/2015 o 05:29 AM, Adrian Kalla pisze:
> W dniu 10/08/2015 o 08:26 AM, Edmund Wong pisze:
>> Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
>> the GTK3 built version of 2.39.
>>
>> TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
>> to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
>> for us to follow suite.
>>
>> Edmund
>>
>> [1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310
> 
> 
> Afaics, disabling GTK3 on mozilla-beta automatically disabled it for us
> too - at least my builds here
> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-beta-linux64/
> were build with GTK2 even though I didn't change anything (and I also
> don't force GTK3 in my builds). Aurora and central are still GTK3.


Oops, I missed the following comment in that bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310#c3

At the end we have some annoying GTK3 issues that somehow do hit just us
and not Fx mentioned in the thread "2.40a1 missing scrollbar indicator
arrow buttons": <prodntuuf79h5w7inz2dnuu7-qwdn...@mozilla.org>
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 10/09/2015 o 05:26 AM, Adrian Kalla pisze:
> W dniu 10/08/2015 o 08:45 AM, Daniel pisze:
>> Hmm! Cannot see 2.39 listed on
>> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/
> 
> Hmmm, maybe ewong was talking about self-compiled builds?
> Or mine that I post here:
> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

Or the tinderbox builds here:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux/

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 10/08/2015 o 08:26 AM, Edmund Wong pisze:
> Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
> the GTK3 built version of 2.39.
> 
> TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
> to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
> for us to follow suite.
> 
> Edmund
> 
> [1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310


Afaics, disabling GTK3 on mozilla-beta automatically disabled it for us
too - at least my builds here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-beta-linux64/
were build with GTK2 even though I didn't change anything (and I also
don't force GTK3 in my builds). Aurora and central are still GTK3.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

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W dniu 10/08/2015 o 08:45 AM, Daniel pisze:
> Hmm! Cannot see 2.39 listed on
> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/

Hmmm, maybe ewong was talking about self-compiled builds?
Or mine that I post here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

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Re: Something trying to trick SeaMonkey?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/24/2015 o 05:47 AM, Ed Mullen pisze:
> Jay O'Brien wrote on 9/23/2015 11:39 PM:
>> I have 5 computers running Windows 7 and SeaMonkey 2.33.1. My wife
>> and I each use one as our primary mail and browsing computer, the
>> other three are used primarily to display our cameras, and they all
>> have web access.
>>
>> All five of the computers exhibit the same problem. Select "Help",
>> then select "Check for Updates" gets a window labeled "Software
>> Update" that also says "Check for updates" for a split second, then
>> says "Update Failed" and says "Something is trying to trick SeaMonkey
>> into accepting an insecure update. Please contact your network
>> provider and seek help."
>>
>> As I recall, the Check for Updates selection used to take me to a
>> place to upgrade to the latest version, which I believe to be 2.35.
>>
>> What's this all about? Some help, please?
>>
>> Jay O'Brien
>>
> 
> 1.  Firewall?
> 2.  Antivirus?
> 
> disable both and try again?

No, that's not it. The update-certificate of SeaMonkey 2.33.1 and older
got outdated on Sept., 11th and hence that weird message.
You have to manually install SeaMonkey 2.35 or newer to have working
updates again...
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Re: SM 2.38 about:plugins bustage

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/14/2015 o 02:47 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] pisze:
> Wondering if it's related to:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1187005

It's not only related - this is the problem. And it is very unlikely,
that it will be fixed at all, as Bug 1165981 explicitly enforced this
behavior on Win64 builds.


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Re: SM 2.38 about:plugins bustage

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/15/2015 o 02:47 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] pisze:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:57:46 +0200, Adrian Kalla
>> It's not only related - this is the problem. And it is very unlikely,
>> that it will be fixed at all, as Bug 1165981 explicitly enforced this
>> behavior on Win64 builds.
> 
> So in reality it's not as if the plugins won't work, it's just they
> are not 64-bit and thus not listed, yes?

Not exactly:
-ff they are not 64 bit, they simply can't work.
-even if the plugins are 64 bit, only Flash is whitelisted, so not being
ignored -> the rest is considered meaningless and supposed to die

This seems to be another step in unsupporting NPAPI plugins, which,
overall, is a good idea.

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Re: gstreamer1.0: Re: SeaMonkey Linux unofficial-nightlies (including L10n)

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/11/2015 o 04:34 AM, NoOp pisze:
> 
> Update: Sept 10, 2015
> 
> And still nothing in Firefox 40.x or SeaMonkey 2.35, 2.38, or 2.40. (...)

Starting from today I did switch my GTK3 builds to gstreamer 1.0 (SM
2.39 and above).

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Re: Expired cert for inline update

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/11/2015 o 04:54 PM, Mason83 pisze:
> aus2-community.mozilla.org uses an invalid security certificate.
> The certificate expired on 11/09/2015 01:59.
> The current time is 11/09/2015 16:51.
> (Error code: sec_error_expired_certificate)

Confirming...


> 
> www.seamonkey-project.org uses an invalid security certificate.
> The certificate is only valid for the following names:
> 
> static-san.mozilla.org, addons.mozilla.com, (...)
> (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)

And confirmed too... Wtf is going on with the certs today?

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Re: SM 2.35 (Mac) still crashing when compating IMAP folders

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/09/2015 o 01:00 AM, Gabriel pisze:
> I could try the 2.38b1 but where's the OS X relase to download?

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.38b1/mac/

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Re: SM 2.35 (Mac) still crashing when compating IMAP folders

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/08/2015 o 05:50 PM, Gabriel pisze:
> Hi,
> 
> I waited this new release hoping it would fix the IMAP crashes, but ...
> it still do it!
> 
> My build:
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35
> Build identifier: 20150825183433
> 
> After a crash, a lot of folders have to be rebuilt, cause the messages
> are messed up. And I have 6 IMAP accounts with about 50 folders in them,
> it's really annoying.
> 
> Can someone tell me when this problem will be solved?
> I tried some preferences tuning I read about in older threads with no
> positive result :(

See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066998 comments #58
and #59 (best option is probably to try SM 2.38 beta1 to see, if it's
gone there).

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Re: SeaMonkey use sky rockets

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/07/2015 o 07:32 AM, Ronnie pisze:
> I would just like to report that according to our stats, lots of our
> users of LXLE linux are sticking with Seamonkey. Since our switch to
> Seamonkey, it has managed to jump up past Safari, IE and Opera.
> Currently sitting at number three behind Firefox and Chrome of course.
> Although considering the popularity of those browsers the massive jump
> in Seamonkey use is encouraging as it was near the bottom before our
> switch. More than 50k unique visitors using Seamonkey in August alone.
> Awesome.

Nice to hear that! :-)

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Re: Crash in my Windows XP Pro SP3 box with foreign characters. Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/07/2015 o 01:11 AM, Ant pisze:
fe mode with the new profile.
>>
>> According to those links it is a known problem: Bug 1200021, reported
>> for Firefox 40 and Firefox 38esr.
> 
> I think I figured out the pattern of my crashes. It is happening when
> there are foreign languages' characters like on
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJomcfTgNZ8=1191 , http://google.cn ,
> etc. Is there a way to block these foreign characters to avoid crashes?
> It's not like I can read them. :(

Did you try to see, if this also happens with one of my builds here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ ?
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 09/01/2015 o 12:11 AM, zeroleft pisze:
> But, and I believe it's something similar for others, is because when a
> machine has only 2GB of ram, (and life circumstances do not allow, at
> this time, for memory upgrade or for simply buy a new PC), it probably
> would be counterproductive try to run a 64-bit system in such modest
> hardware.

I think it is unlikely you would loose perceived performance when
switching to 64 bit. But of course you would also not gain any.
On the other hand, your system would be compatible with all 32 and 64
bit applications.


W dniu 08/31/2015 o 10:10 PM, zeroleft pisze:
> Just by taking a look at
>
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/, you
> could think that Adrian Kalla will not provide any more binaries for
> SeaMonkey on Linux 32-bits...

You are right. There are four reasons why I needed to abandon 32 bit
Linux builds:
1. My CentOS 6 32bit virtual machine did get corrupted, and as I found
out, I had no backup of it.
2. My builds were taking too much space on the L10n server.
3. I needed CPU and RAM resources for Windows builds.
4. And the ultimate reason is Mozilla's switch to GTK3: there is no GTK3
for CentOS6 available (Mozilla seems to have produced own packages, but
afaics, they can't be found anywhere publicly - which is BTW a really
big shame, since there is now also no way to build an exact one-to-one
build to check, if Mozilla did have to include something in their builds
because of a National Security Letter...).
And there is no 32 bit version of RHEL7/CentOS7, which needs to be used
for SM 2.39+ builds (and my cross compile tries failed, and I have no
more time to invest into this issue).


-> 32 bit is dead. Long live 64 bit.
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Re: Only one day left in the month of July.

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 07/30/2015 o 04:47 PM, WaltS48 pisze:
 On 07/30/2015 06:59 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 Will 2.35 actually be released?

 
 Only 12 more days until 2.36 would be due.

You mean 2.37. 2.36 was due, when Firefox 39.0 was released...

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 07/24/2015 o 06:30 AM, Rainer Bielefeld pisze:
 I think Adrian's question was whether you observe the fist launch
 crash if you do the launch in safe mode (with disabled add-ons).
 You can do that from cmd with seamonkey.exe -safe-mode

No, it was a question about the passwords: do they reappear in safe mode?

Because, afaik, all known cases of password loss on update to newer
SeaMonkey or Firefox versions were outdated password
managers/extensions - uninstalling all of them made the password
reappear...
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 07/23/2015 o 09:21 PM, David E. Ross pisze:
(snip)
 Much more important, all my passwords disappeared.  Before trying to
 login to any Web site, I disabled the Remember Passwords extension,
 terminated SeaMonkey, and then relaunched SeaMonkey.  Per the Password
 Exporter extension, my list of passwords was blank.

Did you try it in the safe mode?

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Re: SM 2.36 will not start without libmozalloc.dylib

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 07/07/2015 o 10:53 PM, EE pisze:
 I decided to try SeaMonkey 2.36 on my Mac from Tinderbox builds on the
 Moz FTP site, and it would not start.  I compared the contents of the
 app package of 2.36 with 2.35 and found that in the MacOS folder,
 libmozalloc.dylib is missing in SM 2.36.  When I copied that file from
 SM 2.35 to 2.36, it would start.  Why is that file missing from a build
 which is available from a download site?  Why include a build that will
 not start up because something is missing?

See: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176599

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Re: WebGL Doesn't Work

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/28/2015 o 03:55 AM, Tom Pamin pisze:
 I fixed it by force enabling WebGL, by going about:config and setting
 webgl.force-enabled=true.


This means that either your graphics card is on the WebGL blocklist - or
your current driver version for that graphics card is on the blocklist.
This happens, when the WebGL can cause instabilities on such hardware.

Not sure if there is a newer document about this, but an older list is here:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Blocklisting/Blocked_Graphics_Drivers
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Re: when will be IMAP compression be fixed?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/27/2015 o 12:17 PM, Gabriel pisze:
 does somone know when/if the crashing during IMAP compression will be
 fixed?

See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066998#c58

(the 2.36 builds are here (unfortunately, no OSX):
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ )
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Re: Does sync-ing work in SeaMonkey?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/27/2015 o 05:17 PM, WaltS48 pisze:
 On 06/27/2015 10:58 AM, Greg Spradlin wrote:
 So, is it possible to sync using SeaMonkey?  If anyone likes, I can
 describe exactly what happens when I attempt to sync with SeaMonkey.
 
 No.

That's not the correct answer. The correct answer is: yes, it is
possible, but:

You have to downgrade to SeaMonkey 2.25 and set up Sync there. Then you
can update to the latest SeaMonkey release and still use Sync

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.36 broken

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/24/2015 o 08:09 AM, zeroleft pisze:
 And, just as today, the unofficial beta builds in Adrian Kalla repository
 are working again ...
 
 Congratulations!

They are working, because I did apply the patch for bug 1176599
manually. It is still not solved in the comm-beta repo itself, so e.g.
tinderbox builds are still broken.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.36 broken

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/21/2015 o 05:48 PM, WaltS48 pisze:
 Yes. And since I didn't find a bug for it, I filled a new one:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176599

 
 Are Tinderbox builds supposed to be usable.

No, not necessarily. But I don't see what it does have to do with the
above bug. Did I miss something?

 I don't see SeaMonkey 2.36b1 in Candidates, Nightly or Releases @ [Index
 of
 /pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey](http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/)

You are right, there aren't any. But there are unofficial builds.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.36 broken

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/20/2015 o 12:58 AM, zeroleft pisze:
 I must confess that I am not capable of understand even half of what
 appears on this bug report =
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1173683.

Neither am I...

 But it seems something serious, at least with regard to SeaMonkey, with
 libmozalloc.so still absent in beta builds...

Yes. And since I didn't find a bug for it, I filled a new one:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176599

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Re: seamonkey obsolete?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/19/2015 o 01:14 AM, Kevin L. Hill pisze:
 I encountered a site today that may serve as one 'real world' example.
 Mega.co.nz offers end-to-end encryption for data, claiming that all
 encryption/decryption is done on the local computer, not by their
 servers, and that they do not possess the keys needed to decrypt the data.
 
 On Seamonkey:  Mega.co.nz gives me the following error:
 
 Sorry, we were unable to initialize the browser's local storage, either
 you're using an outdated browser or it's something from our side.


No problem here with SM 2.36.

In 99% of the cases, if something is not working right with SeaMonkey,
the reason is the same like when something is not working right with
Firefox: a faulty extension.
So , in case of problems: first test, if the problem also appears when
running in Safe Mode - and only if it does, then it may be SeaMonkey's
fault...
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.36 broken

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/17/2015 o 11:16 AM, zeroleft pisze:
 At least one shared library (libmozalloc.so)is missing from the tarballs.

Sounds like it has been caused by this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1173683

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Re: Contributed Win32 trunk builds

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/17/2015 o 08:46 PM, EE pisze:
 Adrian Kalla wrote:
 I've posted more unofficial builds here:

 https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/


 https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/


 https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-beta-windows64/


 Why is there nothing for Mac OS?
 

It's simple: I do not own a new-enough Mac-machine to create builds for
Mac (my old MacBook Pro is stuck on OSX 10.6, since it has a Core Duo
first generation CPU, which is 32bit-only...).
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Re: Contributed Win32 trunk builds

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/17/2015 o 11:38 AM, Rainer Bielefeld pisze:
 Adrian Kalla schrieb:
 I've posted more unofficial builds here:
 Can you please leave some comments here or in the blog how to use the
 ..mar files?

You don't need to - just ignore the mar files. They are only intended
for the automatic update process of SeaMonkey: my SeaMonkey builds have
the update-url changed to the
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly
server, so if a new build gets posted, SeaMonkey will download it on
it's own (or you can do it by going to Help - Check for updates).

At some point I did get tired of the process of downloading, unpacking
and moving each time my build-machine did post a build, so I decided to
turn the autoupdate-thingy on :)


P.S. For some unknown reason, SM 2.36 refuses to send cross-posting
posts. Posting to just one newsgroup works...
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Re: Contributed Win32 trunk builds

[Adrian Kalla]

I've posted more unofficial builds here:

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-beta-windows64/
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Re: Any updates on when we might start seeing Seamonkey updates?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/13/2015 o 10:47 PM, EE pisze:
 If you are willing to settle for SM 2.36, you can get a beta vesion here:
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux64/1433981012/
 
 That would be preferable to an alpha version, since it would have fewer
 bugs.
 

You might also try SM 2.35 from here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-linux64/

It should have even less bugs ;)


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32.1 Released

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 02/08/2015 o 01:03 AM, David E. Ross pisze:
 I got four crashes after installing 2.32.1, one for each of my four
 profiles.  In each case, the crash did not occur when I restarted any of
 the profiles.  Yes, I submitted two of the crash reports.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1092810

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Re: SeaMonkey Linux unofficial-nightlies (including L10n)

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 02/08/2015 o 09:31 PM, daning...@pop.com.br pisze:
 Hello!
 
 I've been using these unofficial binaries for quite some time now, and I
 am extremely grateful for the good works of Adrian Kalla.

Good to know that someone else besides me is using them ;)

 But recently I have noticed a sharp drop in the number of localized
 versions and language packs (I think only something like half a dozen
 are currently available) ...
 
 Is there any chance that all official localizations can go back to be
 compiled?

The build machines do build and upload all locales that do actually build 
correctly. I've also noticed the drop in the number of build locales that 
occured some time ago. The drop was caused by string changes in ChatZilla, e.g. 
this are the changes needed for pt-PT (copied from the build log):

09:09:36 Comparing pt-PT to en-US
09:09:36 Properties in ./chrome/chatzilla.properties don't match:
09:09:36   In 
/home/mozilla/jenkins/workspace/seamonkey-central_linux64/mozilla/extensions/irc/locales/en-US:
 (add these to your localization)
09:09:36 cmd.clear-view.key
09:09:36 cmd.websearch.help
09:09:36 cmd.websearch.params
09:09:36 cmd.websearch.format
09:09:36 cmd.websearch.label
09:09:36 msg.alert.icon.off
09:09:36 msg.alert.icon.on
09:09:36 msg.supports.caps
09:09:36 msg.supports.capsOn
09:09:36 msg.caps.list
09:09:36 msg.caps.on
09:09:36 msg.caps.off
09:09:36 msg.caps.error
09:09:36 pref.alert.globalEnabled.label
09:09:36 pref.alert.globalEnabled.help
09:09:36 pref.alert.enabled.label
09:09:36 pref.alert.enabled.help
09:09:36 pref.alert.nonFocusedOnly.label
09:09:36 pref.alert.nonFocusedOnly.help
09:09:36 pref.alert.channel.event.label
09:09:36 pref.alert.channel.event.help
09:09:36 pref.alert.channel.chat.label
09:09:36 pref.alert.channel.chat.help
09:09:36 pref.alert.channel.stalk.label
09:09:36 pref.alert.channel.stalk.help
09:09:36 pref.alert.user.chat.label
09:09:36 pref.alert.user.chat.help
09:09:36 pref.bugKeyword.label
09:09:36 pref.bugKeyword.help
09:09:36 pref.websearch.url.label
09:09:36 pref.websearch.url.help
09:09:36 pref.group.general.palert.label
09:09:36 pref.group.global.palertconfig.label
09:09:36 pref.group.general.sounds.help
09:09:36 pref.group.general.soundEvts.label
09:09:36 pref.group.general.soundEvts.help
09:09:36   In 
/home/mozilla/jenkins/workspace/seamonkey-central_linux64/locales/pt-PT/extensions/irc:
 (remove these from your localization)
09:09:36 pref.group.global.soundEvts.help
09:09:36 pref.group.global.sounds.help
09:09:36 pref.group.global.soundEvts.label

Missing and/or obsolete strings in ChatZilla result in a build process failure 
(this is different to missing and obsolete strings in SeaMonkey itself, where 
during the build process they get replaced by English strings; nonetheless, 
this is still better than in the case of Lightning: that one gets simply build 
with missing strings, which usually results in a broken build :/ ).

When the pt-PT localizer updates the missing and obsolete ChatZilla strings, a 
new pt-PT build should automatically appear within 24h :)

Best,
Adrian

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Re: gstreamer1.0: Re: SeaMonkey Linux unofficial-nightlies (including L10n)

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/13/2014 o 07:14 AM, NoOp pisze:
 Adrian,
 
 Can you build a few using gstreamer1 (--enable-gstreamer=1.0) instead of
 gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg?
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806917
  (support GStreamer 1.0)


Since I use CentOS 6 (afaik the platform Mozilla uses to build Fx and
the platform official Sm will use), which does not have gstreamer 1.0
available, this won't be possible unfortunately.
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Re: Can Seamonkey bookmarks be used on Android?

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 06/11/2014 o 03:43 PM, BIll Spikowski pisze:
 Is there any way that I could export Seamonkey bookmarks and use them on
 an Android tablet?

If it is about exporting/syncing it to Firefox on Android: just set up
SeaMonkey Sync on SeaMonkey - and set up the Legacy-Mozilla-Sync on
Android (called Firefox Sync (deprecated). It works for me that way -
including the send tab feature :)

Using it works with the current SeaMonkey as well as Firefox for Android
(including nightlies). It may be not possible to set up it on the
current Android Firefox - then it may be necessarily to temporarily
downgrade Firefox (just to set it up) (iirc, Fx 25 should work:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/releases ).

Best,
Adrian
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SeaMonkey Linux unofficial-nightlies (including L10n)

[Adrian Kalla]

Some time ago I did set up a build bot that builds (unofficial)
SeaMonkey Linux nightlies every night. This are 32 and 64 bit builds
with enabled GStreamer support and in all supported locales:
http://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

Important: auto-update is not working, yet. So to update, you need to
manually download a new build.

Best,
Adrian
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Re: Security problem with Seamonkey

[Adrian Kalla]

Dnia 12/20/2013 07:00 AM, Użytkownik Wolf napisał:
 Again:
 I have Seamonkey and Firefox installed, both Seamonkey and Firefox are
 using the same  Flash Player Plug-in. Flash Player Plug-in is controlled
 by Prefbar (on/off), in SM and FF.
 
 BetterPrivacy deletes
  /Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys/settings.sol
 for both SM and FF, and only Seamonkey is rebuilding the Flash path and
 file. Which I have to delete for SM using a file manager.
 
 Though, I am quite sure this is a *severe security problem* with SeaMonkey.


I'd be quite surprised, if it was. Try to uninstall *any* extension,
that may try to mess with Flash (alternatively start SeaMonkey in
safe-moge (seamonkey -safe-mode), especially *BetterPrivacy*, as it is
not only maintained anymore - the last version does explicitly even not
support SeaMonkey. Then restart SeaMonkey.

Best,
Adrian

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Re: Build service?

[Adrian Kalla]

Dnia 12/11/2013 11:14 PM, Użytkownik Rob napisał:
 Is there some Seamonkey build service where one can request a build
 of a specific version?  (version#, language, patch to include)
 
 I would like to get a Windows version 2.20 Dutch language with patch
 156433:cc9c2520a53e but I don't have a system with all the required
 stuff required for building.  I would think the system that builds
 the daily snapshot would be able to build such a thing when it can
 be directed to do so.


Not sure if the Thunderbird try-server could be used for this, as
Thunderbird is also on comm-{branch}:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/ThunderbirdTryServer

Besides: your question is more appropriate for mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey ;)

Adrian

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