Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-05 Thread asmpgmr


Bob wrote:
 asmpgmr wrote:
  Actually it *is* a SeaMonkey issue. This is caused by the file locale/
  en-US/global/fontpackage.properties within en-US.jar which contains
  the following lines:
 
  # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (handled_languages): DONT_TRANSLATE
  handled_languages=ja, ko, zh-tw, zh-cn
  name_ja=Japanese Text Display
  name_ko=Korean Text Display
  name_zh-tw=Traditional Chinese Text Display
  name_zh-cn=Simplified Chinese Text Display
  # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ja), MB is megabytes
  size_ja=5.3 MB
  # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ko), MB is megabytes
  size_ko=2.1 MB
  # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-tw), MB is megabytes
  size_zh-tw=3.9 MB
  # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-cn), MB is megabytes
  size_zh-cn=4.4 MB
  cancelButtonNoDownload=OK
  windowTitleNoDownload=Install Font
 
  If you extract this file from en-US.jar (it is just a .zip file) and
  blank out the handled_languages line and then re-add it to en-US.jar
  then the problem will go away. Note this issue does not occur with
  SeaMonkey 2.0a as the font manager is different.
 
  Frankly I don't understand why this was ever done in the first place.
  Anyone who can read these languages will already have the appropriate
  fonts on their system and anyone who can't won't so this is basically
  an unnecessary nuisance.

 Thank you asmpgmr.
 That took care of the nuisance.

One caveat, if you update to a later version of SeaMonkey 1.1.x then
you have to reapply the fix since en-US.jar will be overwritten.
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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-04 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

asmpgmr wrote:

Actually it *is* a SeaMonkey issue. This is caused by the file locale/
en-US/global/fontpackage.properties within en-US.jar which contains
the following lines:

# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (handled_languages): DONT_TRANSLATE
handled_languages=ja, ko, zh-tw, zh-cn
name_ja=Japanese Text Display
name_ko=Korean Text Display
name_zh-tw=Traditional Chinese Text Display
name_zh-cn=Simplified Chinese Text Display
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ja), MB is megabytes
size_ja=5.3 MB
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ko), MB is megabytes
size_ko=2.1 MB
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-tw), MB is megabytes
size_zh-tw=3.9 MB
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-cn), MB is megabytes
size_zh-cn=4.4 MB
cancelButtonNoDownload=OK
windowTitleNoDownload=Install Font

If you extract this file from en-US.jar (it is just a .zip file) and
blank out the handled_languages line and then re-add it to en-US.jar
then the problem will go away. Note this issue does not occur with
SeaMonkey 2.0a as the font manager is different.

Frankly I don't understand why this was ever done in the first place.
Anyone who can read these languages will already have the appropriate
fonts on their system and anyone who can't won't so this is basically
an unnecessary nuisance.


ahhh my little Padawan, I would suspect all those 
languages comes from Edit, Preferences, Navigator, and 
Languages.


Its also used as part of your User Agent:

X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; 
en-US; rv:1.8.1.18) Gecko/20081031 
SeaMonkey/1.1.13,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)


Anyways, I've disabled my windows languages and I don't 
have the problem that you or the others seem to 
experience.


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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-04 Thread JeffM
Bob wrote:
I want Seamonkey to stop asking if i want it or not.

David E. Ross wrote:
Me too.  I don't want Chinese or Japanese fonts;
I don't read either of those languages.  Instead,
I want an option to suppress the request to install those fonts.

You seem to be in an infinite loop.
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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-04 Thread asmpgmr


Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 asmpgmr wrote:
  Actually it *is* a SeaMonkey issue. This is caused by the file locale/
  en-US/global/fontpackage.properties within en-US.jar which contains
  the following lines:
 
  # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (handled_languages): DONT_TRANSLATE
  handled_languages=ja, ko, zh-tw, zh-cn
  name_ja=Japanese Text Display
  name_ko=Korean Text Display
  name_zh-tw=Traditional Chinese Text Display
  name_zh-cn=Simplified Chinese Text Display
  # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ja), MB is megabytes
  size_ja=5.3 MB
  # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ko), MB is megabytes
  size_ko=2.1 MB
  # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-tw), MB is megabytes
  size_zh-tw=3.9 MB
  # LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-cn), MB is megabytes
  size_zh-cn=4.4 MB
  cancelButtonNoDownload=OK
  windowTitleNoDownload=Install Font
 
  If you extract this file from en-US.jar (it is just a .zip file) and
  blank out the handled_languages line and then re-add it to en-US.jar
  then the problem will go away. Note this issue does not occur with
  SeaMonkey 2.0a as the font manager is different.
 
  Frankly I don't understand why this was ever done in the first place.
  Anyone who can read these languages will already have the appropriate
  fonts on their system and anyone who can't won't so this is basically
  an unnecessary nuisance.

 ahhh my little Padawan, I would suspect all those
 languages comes from Edit, Preferences, Navigator, and
 Languages.

 Anyways, I've disabled my windows languages and I don't
 have the problem that you or the others seem to
 experience.

No, this is definitely due to those 4 languages being specified in the
file. I blanked out the handled_languages= line and that fixed the
problem. I definitely don't have any language other than English
listed or installed. Please stop saying this is a Windows problem when
it is definitely a SeaMonkey issue and was fixed for SeaMonkey 2.0.
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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-04 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:20:36 -0600, /Bob/:

Can anyone tell me how to stop SM from asking if i want to install Asian 
language fonts?

(Besides installing them that is.)
I don't think it is a windows problem.  IE6 never asks.

SeaMonkey 1.1.8
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) 
Gecko/20080201 SeaMonkey/1.1.8


If I remember correctly this is fixed in SeaMonkey 2.0 by removing 
the dialog in question.  Can't give you a Bugzilla ID for this, but 
one could possibly find it.


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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-04 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/3/2009 4:03 PM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 Bob wrote:
 Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 4/2/2009 10:34 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 Bob wrote:
 Hi,
 Can anyone tell me how to stop SM from asking if i want to install 
 Asian language fonts?
 (Besides installing them that is.)
 I don't think it is a windows problem.  IE6 never asks.

 SeaMonkey 1.1.8
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) 
 Gecko/20080201 SeaMonkey/1.1.8

 Thanks,
 Bob
 sorry to say, but it is a windows problem.  Close SM, then click on 
 the windows start button, then Control Panel, then the Regional and 
 Language Options icon, then the Languages tab, and uncheck the 
 option about East Asian languages, and that should do it.  Did it?

 I have the settings you recommend.  However, certain internationalized
 Web sites still ask if they can install Chinese and Japanese fonts.
 This happens all the time when I go to validate a CSS file at W3C's
 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/.

 This is a Web site problem.  It could be mitigated if Gecko had a
 preference to ignore such requests.

 http://kb.mozillazine.org/International_characters
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Installing_East_Asian_language_support_under_Windows
  

 Interesting but it does not address the problem.  I don't want to 
 install asian support.
 I want Seamonkey to stop asking if i want it or not.
 
 you're not following: you uncheck them.
 
 Again, its a windows problem, not a SeaMonkey one.
 
 Also, in the same area, click on the Details button, 
 then the Advanced tab, and check the last box.
 
 Also, do you have the Language bar in the windows 
 SysTray?  If so, disable it. You don't need it running.
 

You are not following!

On my PC, the checkboxes are NOT checked, except the last checkbox on
the Advanced tab IS checked.  I don't have a language bar in my tray.
The problem is that some Web sites are internationalized and that Gecko
(at least within SeaMonkey 1.1.*) does not have an option to ignore the
requests regarding Asian fonts (or any other non-installed fonts).

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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/2/2009 10:34 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 Bob wrote:
 Hi,
 Can anyone tell me how to stop SM from asking if i want to install Asian 
 language fonts?
 (Besides installing them that is.)
 I don't think it is a windows problem.  IE6 never asks.

 SeaMonkey 1.1.8
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) 
 Gecko/20080201 SeaMonkey/1.1.8

 Thanks,
 Bob
 
 sorry to say, but it is a windows problem.  Close SM, 
 then click on the windows start button, then Control 
 Panel, then the Regional and Language Options icon, 
 then the Languages tab, and uncheck the option about 
 East Asian languages, and that should do it.  Did it?
 

I have the settings you recommend.  However, certain internationalized
Web sites still ask if they can install Chinese and Japanese fonts.
This happens all the time when I go to validate a CSS file at W3C's
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/.

This is a Web site problem.  It could be mitigated if Gecko had a
preference to ignore such requests.

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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-03 Thread Bob

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/2/2009 10:34 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Bob wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me how to stop SM from asking if i want to install Asian 
language fonts?

(Besides installing them that is.)
I don't think it is a windows problem.  IE6 never asks.

SeaMonkey 1.1.8
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) 
Gecko/20080201 SeaMonkey/1.1.8


Thanks,
Bob
sorry to say, but it is a windows problem.  Close SM, 
then click on the windows start button, then Control 
Panel, then the Regional and Language Options icon, 
then the Languages tab, and uncheck the option about 
East Asian languages, and that should do it.  Did it?




I have the settings you recommend.  However, certain internationalized
Web sites still ask if they can install Chinese and Japanese fonts.
This happens all the time when I go to validate a CSS file at W3C's
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/.

This is a Web site problem.  It could be mitigated if Gecko had a
preference to ignore such requests.


I agree.  Windows settings don't change the pop-up request.  It seem to be a SM and 
website annoyance.


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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-03 Thread Bob

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/2/2009 10:34 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Bob wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me how to stop SM from asking if i want to install 
Asian language fonts?

(Besides installing them that is.)
I don't think it is a windows problem.  IE6 never asks.

SeaMonkey 1.1.8
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) 
Gecko/20080201 SeaMonkey/1.1.8


Thanks,
Bob
sorry to say, but it is a windows problem.  Close SM, then click on 
the windows start button, then Control Panel, then the Regional and 
Language Options icon, then the Languages tab, and uncheck the option 
about East Asian languages, and that should do it.  Did it?




I have the settings you recommend.  However, certain internationalized
Web sites still ask if they can install Chinese and Japanese fonts.
This happens all the time when I go to validate a CSS file at W3C's
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/.

This is a Web site problem.  It could be mitigated if Gecko had a
preference to ignore such requests.



http://kb.mozillazine.org/International_characters
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Installing_East_Asian_language_support_under_Windows 


Interesting but it does not address the problem.  I don't want to install asian 
support.
I want Seamonkey to stop asking if i want it or not.
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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/3/2009 11:09 AM, Bob wrote:
 Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 4/2/2009 10:34 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 Bob wrote:
 Hi,
 Can anyone tell me how to stop SM from asking if i want to install 
 Asian language fonts?
 (Besides installing them that is.)
 I don't think it is a windows problem.  IE6 never asks.

 SeaMonkey 1.1.8
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) 
 Gecko/20080201 SeaMonkey/1.1.8

 Thanks,
 Bob
 sorry to say, but it is a windows problem.  Close SM, then click on 
 the windows start button, then Control Panel, then the Regional and 
 Language Options icon, then the Languages tab, and uncheck the option 
 about East Asian languages, and that should do it.  Did it?

 I have the settings you recommend.  However, certain internationalized
 Web sites still ask if they can install Chinese and Japanese fonts.
 This happens all the time when I go to validate a CSS file at W3C's
 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/.

 This is a Web site problem.  It could be mitigated if Gecko had a
 preference to ignore such requests.

 http://kb.mozillazine.org/International_characters
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Installing_East_Asian_language_support_under_Windows
  
 
 Interesting but it does not address the problem.  I don't want to install 
 asian support.
 I want Seamonkey to stop asking if i want it or not.

Me too.  I don't want Chinese or Japanese fonts; I don't read either of
those languages.  Instead, I want an option to suppress the request to
install those fonts.

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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-03 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Bob wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/2/2009 10:34 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Bob wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me how to stop SM from asking if i want to install 
Asian language fonts?

(Besides installing them that is.)
I don't think it is a windows problem.  IE6 never asks.

SeaMonkey 1.1.8
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) 
Gecko/20080201 SeaMonkey/1.1.8


Thanks,
Bob
sorry to say, but it is a windows problem.  Close SM, then click on 
the windows start button, then Control Panel, then the Regional and 
Language Options icon, then the Languages tab, and uncheck the 
option about East Asian languages, and that should do it.  Did it?




I have the settings you recommend.  However, certain internationalized
Web sites still ask if they can install Chinese and Japanese fonts.
This happens all the time when I go to validate a CSS file at W3C's
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/.

This is a Web site problem.  It could be mitigated if Gecko had a
preference to ignore such requests.



http://kb.mozillazine.org/International_characters
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Installing_East_Asian_language_support_under_Windows 



Interesting but it does not address the problem.  I don't want to 
install asian support.

I want Seamonkey to stop asking if i want it or not.


you're not following: you uncheck them.

Again, its a windows problem, not a SeaMonkey one.

Also, in the same area, click on the Details button, 
then the Advanced tab, and check the last box.


Also, do you have the Language bar in the windows 
SysTray?  If so, disable it. You don't need it running.


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Re: Asian Fonts - I don't want them installed.

2009-04-03 Thread asmpgmr
Actually it *is* a SeaMonkey issue. This is caused by the file locale/
en-US/global/fontpackage.properties within en-US.jar which contains
the following lines:

# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (handled_languages): DONT_TRANSLATE
handled_languages=ja, ko, zh-tw, zh-cn
name_ja=Japanese Text Display
name_ko=Korean Text Display
name_zh-tw=Traditional Chinese Text Display
name_zh-cn=Simplified Chinese Text Display
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ja), MB is megabytes
size_ja=5.3 MB
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_ko), MB is megabytes
size_ko=2.1 MB
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-tw), MB is megabytes
size_zh-tw=3.9 MB
# LOCALIZATION NOTE : (size_zh-cn), MB is megabytes
size_zh-cn=4.4 MB
cancelButtonNoDownload=OK
windowTitleNoDownload=Install Font

If you extract this file from en-US.jar (it is just a .zip file) and
blank out the handled_languages line and then re-add it to en-US.jar
then the problem will go away. Note this issue does not occur with
SeaMonkey 2.0a as the font manager is different.

Frankly I don't understand why this was ever done in the first place.
Anyone who can read these languages will already have the appropriate
fonts on their system and anyone who can't won't so this is basically
an unnecessary nuisance.
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