Re: Does anyone care about this?
Ray_Net schrieb: Martin Feitag wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo schrieb: Martin Feitag wrote: furthermore, there is a 2 gig limit for windows. Perhaps that is the reason for the problem That's a memory limit per application, not the file limit on the drive. I don't think SM stores all mails into RAM at a time...? no, each folder has a 2 gig limit: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit uh interesting, does anyone know why this limit exists on windows? Are you interested by initiating a very large thread ? :-) You may read this: http://www.codeguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451334 sry, but things mentioned there are partially garbage and somehow unrelated in my eyes. @unrelated: SM is not written in VB and shouldn't suffer from it's short-comings. @garbage: afaik FAT32 supports file sizes up to 4GB, not only 2 as mentioned there. That's why I am wondering about a 2GB limit. I would have expected it to be 4GB, that's why I am asking. (no I don't need a long thread (hopefully) ;-) ) (What if I would be so crazy and run SM on linux from FAT32-partition? I would run into the same trouble I guess...? So it's not a windows-issue after all but a problem with the file-system from my point of knowledge/understanding. Therefor I wanted to make things clearer to me) thanks in advance Martin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
Brian Mailman wrote: ad...@mmri.us wrote: Brian Mailman wrote: If you wish to make your messages difficult for others to read, they may oblige you and not read them. That is perfectly fine, and in order with me if they don't read my posts. Everyone is entitled to their choice. In cyberspace, no one can hear you scream. B/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
furthermore, there is a 2 gig limit for windows. Perhaps that is the reason for the problem That's a memory limit per application, not the file limit on the drive. I don't think SM stores all mails into RAM at a time...? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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ad...@mmri.us wrote: We have been through this to death. Please see previous threads. I as well as others top post as in my opinion it is outdated. Post as you wish. Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: ad...@mmri.us wrote: snip Sorryyou top post because top posting, in your opinion, is outdated!! Gee, I didn't realise that! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Whatever pleases you. Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: In that case, begone. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
Martin Feitag wrote: furthermore, there is a 2 gig limit for windows. Perhaps that is the reason for the problem That's a memory limit per application, not the file limit on the drive. I don't think SM stores all mails into RAM at a time...? no, each folder has a 2 gig limit: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
ad...@mmri.us wrote: We have been through this to death. Please see previous threads. I as well as others top post as in my opinion it is outdated. Post as you wish. If you wish to make your messages difficult for others to read, they may oblige you and not read them. B/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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That is perfectly fine, and in order with me if they don't read my posts. Everyone is entitled to their choice. Brian Mailman wrote: If you wish to make your messages difficult for others to read, they may oblige you and not read them. B/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
Martin Feitag wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo schrieb: Martin Feitag wrote: furthermore, there is a 2 gig limit for windows. Perhaps that is the reason for the problem That's a memory limit per application, not the file limit on the drive. I don't think SM stores all mails into RAM at a time...? no, each folder has a 2 gig limit: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit uh interesting, does anyone know why this limit exists on windows? Are you interested by initiating a very large thread ? :-) You may read this: http://www.codeguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451334 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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POP, The server is Exim4 and dovecote I don't expect to do this often. I have one partner who keeps her messages on the sever for a long time, as a sort of safety mechanism. She downloads them constantly. I was setting up a new computer for her and downloading the messages happened as a part of setting up a new account. As others have noted it isn't a big deal and doesn't affect getting messages.but I wondered is anyone had ever seen this before. Chris Ilias wrote: On 22/04/09 12:57 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote: Email Rob Steinmetz wrote: That is you download more than 39,897 messages the counter runs backwards? It reads; Downloading 1 of 40767 Downloading 1 of 40766 Downloading 1 of 40765 Until you get to 38,897 then it reads properly, except the maximum value is 39,897 I wonder if this is a server thing? POP or IMAP? In other words, would you say that the amount of messages you expect to download is in the tens of thousands? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Martin Feitag wrote: furthermore, there is a 2 gig limit for windows. Perhaps that is the reason for the problem I don't think so since each message is transferred and then appended to the folder(file) individually. How would the file size limit affect the first email added to a folder? I don't think the size of the download is ever calculated or transmitted to the client. The whole this is more of a curiosity than anything. BTW thank you for pointing out the files size limit, I do hope that is is going to be removed, There seems no sensible reason to have a limit not imposed by the filessystem. If large files cause performance problems the user should have to option of accepting the hit or administering the system. That's a memory limit per application, not the file limit on the drive. I don't think SM stores all mails into RAM at a time...? no, each folder has a 2 gig limit: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
ad...@mmri.us wrote: Brian Mailman wrote: If you wish to make your messages difficult for others to read, they may oblige you and not read them. That is perfectly fine, and in order with me if they don't read my posts. Everyone is entitled to their choice. In cyberspace, no one can hear you scream. B/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 04/23/2009 06:59 PM, Brian Mailman wrote: ad...@mmri.us wrote: Brian Mailman wrote: If you wish to make your messages difficult for others to read, they may oblige you and not read them. That is perfectly fine, and in order with me if they don't read my posts. Everyone is entitled to their choice. In cyberspace, no one can hear you scream. B/ The trees can. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Email Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: That is you download more than 39,897 messages the counter runs backwards? It reads; Downloading 1 of 40767 Downloading 1 of 40766 Downloading 1 of 40765 Until you get to 38,897 then it reads properly, except the maximum value is 39,897 I wonder if this is a server thing? What counter? Where? Mail? Newsgroups? I've never downloaded that many messages at one time ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo: Perhaps that is the reason for the problem If the phenomenon exists it should also be valid for newsgroups. Easy to test. Join a newsgroup with more than 40,000 postings, enter it and decide to download all headers. Hartmut, too lazy :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
ad...@mmri.us wrote: We have been through this to death. Please see previous threads. I as well as others top post as in my opinion it is outdated. Post as you wish. Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: ad...@mmri.us wrote: That's nothing. I am running over 8GB and have all my mails since 1998 and never lost anything on Linux. Here is the output of my $ du -H 8.1G/cxbro3sb.slt Before that, using NT and Win95/98 I lost mails about once every 6 months due to Windows going corrupt dumping check files all over the drive. Although there is a horde of irritating non-working things in Mozilla/Seamonkey, the entire Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey migration path I followed never sacrificed my mail and that is worth gold compared to the bugs and irritations. Outlook users I know, regularly lose their mail, approximately every 2 years or shorter. Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: thats over 2,350,00kb or 2,300mb or slightly more than 2 gigabytes Um, please bottom post or intersperse in these newsgroups (or mailing lists), thank you for your consideration in this regard see http://www.mozilla.org/community/etiquette.html And the object/intent of my message was NOT discussing how many email you can store safely in Thunderbird, but how many you can download at ONE time! You may have 8gb of mail built up since 1998, but you don't download them all at one time, and the question of the OP was why the count went backwards when you did. Your comment is superfleous ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey In that case, begone. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
