Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/22/11 1:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I have success with this site, and I have disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. My UA string is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 SeaMonkey/2.2 I tried spoofing as SeaMonkey/2.0.14 not Firefox 3.6, but no luck. That was the point I was trying to make. It's NOT a case of bad sniffing. Spoofing is not required. Thanks for this, David. When I read Doc's reply, my first thought was poor sniffing, so I replied. After reading the rest of the replies in the thread, I was beginning to doubt that it was a sniffing problem, but by then I had already posted, so.. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
On 7/20/2011 6:20 PM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. It works fine in my old SeaMonkey v2.0.18 in an old Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine. However, it uses Bing.com. Why not go there directly instead of through National Geographic's web site? -- I made my list for my birthday. --Christopher. Yeah, what'd you put on there? - A basketball or an ant farm. and This could be an ant farm. This could be a microscope or anything. --Chris from The Pursuit of Happyness movie. /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Ant wrote: On 7/20/2011 6:20 PM PT, Paul B. Gallagher typed: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. It works fine in my old SeaMonkey v2.0.18 in an old Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine. However, it uses Bing.com. Why not go there directly instead of through National Geographic's web site? Works perfectly for me SeaMonkey 2.0.14. 2.1 has killed a slew of extensions, and 2.3 has killed a slew of plugins in addition to the extensions. I expect a required plug-in need to view the map is dead, and can not be resuscitated. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
d...@kd4e.com wrote: 2.0.14 in Puppy Linux dpup 009 - it works fine. I have these Plugins ... File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-dvx.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-qt.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer RealPlayer 9 File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-rm.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA Doc, I haven't checked the other replies to Paul's post, but your success may be because you have modified your User-Agent string to include the word Firefox. -- Daniel Happy Pi day.well, not for U.S.ofA.ians maybe! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
On 7/22/11 6:02 AM, Daniel wrote: d...@kd4e.com wrote: 2.0.14 in Puppy Linux dpup 009 - it works fine. I have these Plugins ... File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-dvx.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-qt.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer RealPlayer 9 File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-rm.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA Doc, I haven't checked the other replies to Paul's post, but your success may be because you have modified your User-Agent string to include the word Firefox. I have success with this site, and I have disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. My UA string is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 SeaMonkey/2.2 -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Robert Gault wrote: Perhaps deleting the prefs.js file and letting Seamonkey recreate it might help. OK, well that was pretty scary. After I deleted prefs.js from my profile folder, SM started in the browser, displaying the start URL from mozilla.org, and when I tried to open the mail/news window, it asked me to create a profile. Fortunately, when I restored prefs.js from the Recycle Bin, all was well. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
David E. Ross wrote: I have success with this site, and I have disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. My UA string is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 SeaMonkey/2.2 I tried spoofing as SeaMonkey/2.0.14 not Firefox 3.6, but no luck. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
On 7/22/11 1:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I have success with this site, and I have disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. My UA string is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 SeaMonkey/2.2 I tried spoofing as SeaMonkey/2.0.14 not Firefox 3.6, but no luck. That was the point I was trying to make. It's NOT a case of bad sniffing. Spoofing is not required. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 6:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? No other ideas. I tried the site with both JavaScript disabled and only loading images that come from the originating server. I could not get the map. Then I tried with JavaScript enabled but still only loading images that come from the originating server. I still could not get the map. Then I reversed the settings with JavaScript disabled but accepting all images. I still could not get the map. Only when both JavaScript was enabled and I accepted all images did I get the map. By the way, I disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. Thus, this is not a case of invald sniffing. Mr. Gallaghers' UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) I use SM 2.0.14, the 64bits version what comes with Fedora15, and it works like a champ with Javascript enabled and all images. -- None love the bearer of bad news. -- Sophocles -- Gertjan Vinkesteijn ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
GerardJan wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 6:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? No other ideas. I tried the site with both JavaScript disabled and only loading images that come from the originating server. I could not get the map. Then I tried with JavaScript enabled but still only loading images that come from the originating server. I still could not get the map. Then I reversed the settings with JavaScript disabled but accepting all images. I still could not get the map. Only when both JavaScript was enabled and I accepted all images did I get the map. By the way, I disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. Thus, this is not a case of invald sniffing. Mr. Gallaghers' UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) I use SM 2.0.14, the 64bits version what comes with Fedora15, and it works like a champ with Javascript enabled and all images. Well good for you. But mimicking the postings of some true party line proponents here :-) , the politically correct answer is as written above :-) The :/ or :\ were supposed to produce wry faced smileys. Perhaps :-\ or :-/ will do better. I am/was trying to be sarcastic. The forward charge by the bull elephants to introduce new features is all well and good. But I'd like to see an army with brooms and pooper scoopers clean up the field between the charging elephants and us the plodding following mass of users. So that we can follow without stepping as much into doo-doo. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Mr. Gallagher's UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) Others with both earlier and later versions can see it. And I'm not interested in becoming a beta tester. I can live without the NG maps, but not without a workable browser/email program. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Margo Guda wrote: Do you use Noscript, or is there a way to disable javascript for external links? I noticed the map would not display for me (with Noscript enabled) until I granted permission for virtualearth.net. Allowing scripts from that address caused the map to be displayed. No, I don't have NoScript, so I can't enable/disable it. As noted previously, I have no sites listed for image blocking/allowing, so that isn't a factor. Even so, have added virtualearth.net as explicitly allowed. There seems to be no shortage of cookies from nationalgeographic.com and maps.nationalgeographic.com, so that's not it. Firewall log shows nothing blocked since Tuesday, so that's not it. Will report back after restarting and clearing browser cache. OK, no change. Error console reports: Warning: Error in parsing value for 'width'. Declaration dropped. Source File: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/css/style.css Line: 600 Warning: Selector expected. Ruleset ignored due to bad selector. Source File: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/css/widgets.css Line: 259 Warning: Expected end of value but found 'width'. Error in parsing value for 'float'. Declaration dropped. Source File: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/css/widgets.css Line: 358 Warning: Selector expected. Ruleset ignored due to bad selector. Source File: http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/sites/themes/global/c/screen.css Line: 68 Warning: Error in parsing value for 'font'. Declaration dropped. Source File: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/css/virtualearth.css Line: 16 Warning: Unexpected end of file while searching for end of comment. Source File: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/css/virtualearth.css Line: 311 Error: VEMap is not defined Source File: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/js/virtualearth-2.js Line: 89 Error: [Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) [nsISafeOutputStream.finish] nsresult: 0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) location: JS frame :: file:///C:/Program%20Files/SeaMonkey/components/nsSessionStore.js :: sss_writeFile :: line 2668 data: no] Source File: file:///C:/Program%20Files/SeaMonkey/components/nsSessionStore.js Line: 2668 Is any of this me? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Error: VEMap is not defined Source File: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/js/virtualearth-2.js Line: 89 Sounds like the js was not downloaded correctly, try shift+reload on the page. Perhaps you have a slow internet connection? -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: GerardJan wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 6:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? No other ideas. I tried the site with both JavaScript disabled and only loading images that come from the originating server. I could not get the map. Then I tried with JavaScript enabled but still only loading images that come from the originating server. I still could not get the map. Then I reversed the settings with JavaScript disabled but accepting all images. I still could not get the map. Only when both JavaScript was enabled and I accepted all images did I get the map. By the way, I disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. Thus, this is not a case of invald sniffing. Mr. Gallaghers' UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) I use SM 2.0.14, the 64bits version what comes with Fedora15, and it works like a champ with Javascript enabled and all images. Well good for you. But mimicking the postings of some true party line proponents here :-) , the politically correct answer is as written above :-) The :/ or :\ were supposed to produce wry faced smileys. Perhaps :-\ or :-/ will do better. I am/was trying to be sarcastic. FWIW, Instructing to latest stable is well and good, but I do avoid it when the issue is likely something else. In this case people on 2.2, 2.1, and 2.0.14 experienced the site working fine, which implied the issue was something else. Figuring out what was different between OPs system and all us other users where it worked fine was what would help in that case, not a blind update. Also Unless the issue is ABSOLUTELY required, I won't instruct a user to upgrade to any beta/release-candidate/alpha/whatever. I'll happily accept and recommend people who care heavily about our direction/wish to test to go on those, and advocate that our beta's are relatively stable, but see no big need to suggest it. *IF* there was a fix on a beta that is not on a stable release, I'll mention it, but along with a workaround if there is one. -- ~Justin Wood, (Callek), SeaMonkey Council Member. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Error: VEMap is not defined Source File: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/js/virtualearth-2.js Line: 89 Sounds like the js was not downloaded correctly, try shift+reload on the page. Perhaps you have a slow internet connection? I doubt that's the problem. For one thing, another user in this thread reported the same error, but he could view the map. For another, my FiOS connection generally supports downloads of 25 MB or so per minute. I routinely download 400-500 MB movie clips in 15-20 minutes without error. Since I have this trouble but others with the same version of SM do not, it seems unlikely to be a problem with the site and is more likely an issue with my settings, corruption of some configuration or program file, etc. I do use AdBlock Plus, so I tried disabling it -- first for the site alone, then globally -- and reloading the page, but it didn't help. ABP reports blocking over a hundred items on this page, but unblocking them didn't reveal the map. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Sounds like the js was not downloaded correctly, try shift+reload on the page. Perhaps you have a slow internet connection? I doubt that's the problem. For one thing, another user in this thread reported the same error, but he could view the map. For another, my FiOS connection generally supports downloads of 25 MB or so per minute. I routinely download 400-500 MB movie clips in 15-20 minutes without error. Since I have this trouble but others with the same version of SM do not, it seems unlikely to be a problem with the site and is more likely an issue with my settings, corruption of some configuration or program file, etc. I do use AdBlock Plus, so I tried disabling it -- first for the site alone, then globally -- and reloading the page, but it didn't help. ABP reports blocking over a hundred items on this page, but unblocking them didn't reveal the map. Well the idea that VEMap is a variable in the file, on that site, and an error like that will terminate script execution sounds like it *IS* that issue. OK, so how do you account for the visitors who /can/ view the map? Are their copies of SM 2.0.14 magically immune to the error? A corrupt download of the .js file specified could do that too. Try the shift+reload please. Been there, done that. Several times. I've visited the site probably 20 times since we've been discussing this -- what do you think are the chances that each and every time, this particular js file was corrupted in transit? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Mr. Gallagher's UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) Others with both earlier and later versions can see it. And I'm not interested in becoming a beta tester. I can live without the NG maps, but not without a workable browser/email program. That does not change the 'politically correct' advice to be given, in reply to your given in reply to your problem . :-\ I am only poking at the party line. :-\ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: The forward charge by the bull elephants to introduce new features is all well and good. But I'd like to see an army with brooms and pooper scoopers clean up the field between the charging elephants and us the plodding following mass of users. So that we can follow without stepping as much into doo-doo. While you're at it, don't forget the unicorns and flying monkeys. The trick here is to get your notion to dovetail with the Scratching an itch meme. Humans tend to not like doing stuff they see as unglamorous. Cleaning up the detritus left by previous occupants tends to come under that heading. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
JeffM wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: The forward charge by the bull elephants to introduce new features is all well and good. But I'd like to see an army with brooms and pooper scoopers clean up the field between the charging elephants and us the plodding following mass of users. So that we can follow without stepping as much into doo-doo. While you're at it, don't forget the unicorns and flying monkeys. I didn't forget, I just didn't see how to fit them into the picture :-) The trick here is to get your notion to dovetail with the Scratching an itch meme. It's a trick all right. One I haven't managed to so far. Humans tend to not like doing stuff they see as unglamorous. Cleaning up the detritus left by previous occupants tends to come under that heading. That's an eternal truth, like the notion of motherhood and cherry pie. I just needed to vent! in hopes of influencing the unchangeable. :-) (And I know that this is now off topic and in a wrong forum) -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
I am using 1.1.18 and I am having no problems. Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
2.0.14 in Puppy Linux dpup 009 - it works fine. I have these Plugins ... File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-dvx.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-qt.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer RealPlayer 9 File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-rm.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.9.2 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA -- Thanks! 73, KD4E David Colburn http://kd4e.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day I don't google I SEARCH! STARTPAGE.com Shop Freedom-Friendly http://kd4e.com/of.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA Also SeaMonkey 2.2 works fine for me on that page. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
On 7/20/2011 3:28 PM Paul B. Gallagher submitted the following: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA All maps including the 3D view work fine with M$ XP-Pro up-to-date and SeaMonkey 2.2 -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/ Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ A conservative is a man who believes that nothing should be done for the first time. -Alfred E. Wiggam ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Shows fine for me. (SM2.2, MacOS X, usual plug-ins, nothing special). Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. I had a brief look, and the thing is heavy with JavaScript. All the UI / user interaction is handled by this. No clue, how they get the actual map displayed, but it looks more like advanced HTML + scripting than magic plug-ins. Otherwise - if SM1.1.18 does display the thing (as posted before), the HMTL cannot be too advanced. (Canvas or other recent additions from HTML5. ;-) Do you disable JavaScript? BR/Philipp ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Philipp van Hüllen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Shows fine for me. (SM2.2, MacOS X, usual plug-ins, nothing special). Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. I had a brief look, and the thing is heavy with JavaScript. All the UI / user interaction is handled by this. No clue, how they get the actual map displayed, but it looks more like advanced HTML + scripting than magic plug-ins. Otherwise - if SM1.1.18 does display the thing (as posted before), the HMTL cannot be too advanced. (Canvas or other recent additions from HTML5. ;-) Do you disable JavaScript? My prefs from Advanced | Scripts Plugins: Enable Javascript for Browser -- yes Allow scripts to: Move or resize existing windows -- no Raise or lower windows -- no Hide the status bar -- no Change status bar text -- no Change images -- yes Disable or replace context menus -- no Enable Plugins for Mail Newsgroups -- no When additional plugins are required: Display a notification bar at the top of the content area -- yes I haven't installed Silverlight, but that shouldn't matter because the page displays in IE. I'm not getting prompted to install a plugin. I did try enabling all the Allow scripts to: options, but it didn't help. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Prefernces window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
On 7/20/11 6:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? No other ideas. I tried the site with both JavaScript disabled and only loading images that come from the originating server. I could not get the map. Then I tried with JavaScript enabled but still only loading images that come from the originating server. I still could not get the map. Then I reversed the settings with JavaScript disabled but accepting all images. I still could not get the map. Only when both JavaScript was enabled and I accepted all images did I get the map. By the way, I disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. Thus, this is not a case of invald sniffing. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? Do you use Noscript, or is there a way to disable javascript for external links? I noticed the map would not display for me (with Noscript enabled) until I granted permission for virtualearth.net. Allowing scripts from that address caused the map to be displayed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
On 20/07/2011 22:20, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? Make sure you have checked Change images on Preferences, Advanced, Scripts Plugins. Gabriel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Gabriel Cabillón wrote: Make sure you have checked Change images on Preferences, Advanced, Scripts Plugins. Asked and answered upthread. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Margo Guda wrote: Do you use Noscript, or is there a way to disable javascript for external links? I noticed the map would not display for me (with Noscript enabled) until I granted permission for virtualearth.net. Allowing scripts from that address caused the map to be displayed. No, I don't have NoScript, so I can't enable/disable it. As noted previously, I have no sites listed for image blocking/allowing, so that isn't a factor. Even so, have added virtualearth.net as explicitly allowed. There seems to be no shortage of cookies from nationalgeographic.com and maps.nationalgeographic.com, so that's not it. Firewall log shows nothing blocked since Tuesday, so that's not it. Will report back after restarting and clearing browser cache. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 6:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? No other ideas. I tried the site with both JavaScript disabled and only loading images that come from the originating server. I could not get the map. Then I tried with JavaScript enabled but still only loading images that come from the originating server. I still could not get the map. Then I reversed the settings with JavaScript disabled but accepting all images. I still could not get the map. Only when both JavaScript was enabled and I accepted all images did I get the map. By the way, I disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. Thus, this is not a case of invald sniffing. Mr. Gallaghers' UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA The same thing happens to me with IE8 and Seamonkey2.2. I've had similar problems with some sites which I tend to think is the result of a dial-up connection and/or Internet provider. I suspect timeouts leaving some scripts incomplete. In any case, the Seamonkey Error Console gives several errors and warnings for given url. In particular, map control has an error and VEMap is not defined. There is are several warnings regarding virtualearth.css. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Robert Gault wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA The same thing happens to me with IE8 and Seamonkey2.2. I've had similar problems with some sites which I tend to think is the result of a dial-up connection and/or Internet provider. I suspect timeouts leaving some scripts incomplete. In any case, the Seamonkey Error Console gives several errors and warnings for given url. In particular, map control has an error and VEMap is not defined. There is are several warnings regarding virtualearth.css. Hmmm, after playing around with about:config and removing what seemed to be some obsolete user settings, the Map appeared on the National Geographic site. Perhaps deleting the prefs.js file and letting Seamonkey recreate it might help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
