Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-05-02 Thread Reiner Schug
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: It is the usual spiel. Abuse bla bla bla and we won't have this. Even with irc you can kick and moderate users. This is imho just another attempt to silence opinions they don't like. Bet the newsgroups will follow. You can also /ignore users and when you (mozilla.org)

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-30 Thread Daniel
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 29/04/2019 6:15 PM: Reiner Schug wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: What is needed mostly are helping hands. No volunteers/devs no SeaMonkey in the long term. You can only do so much with money if you don't have the time to support paid people. Mozilla is

Re: moznet retirement (was: Staying alive - how can I help?)

2019-04-29 Thread Felix Miata
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2019-04-29 11:57 (UTC+0200): > It is the usual spiel. Abuse bla bla bla and we won't have this. Even with > irc > you can kick and moderate users. This is imho just another attempt to silence > opinions they don't like. Bet the newsgroups will follow. There is

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread GerardJan
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Reiner, please send me an email. FRG Reiner Schug wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ...     Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine!     A: IRC is not fine. ... The rest of the article explains why this is to be considered so, and yes - spam is part

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
It is the usual spiel. Abuse bla bla bla and we won't have this. Even with irc you can kick and moderate users. This is imho just another attempt to silence opinions they don't like. Bet the newsgroups will follow. FRG Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: The rest of the article explains why this

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Reiner, please send me an email. FRG Reiner Schug wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ...     Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine!     A: IRC is not fine. ... The rest of the article explains why this is to be considered so, and yes - spam is part of that. A: IRC is not

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Reiner Schug
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ... Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine! A: IRC is not fine. ... The rest of the article explains why this is to be considered so, and yes - spam is part of that. A: IRC is not fine. new Q: WTF is wrong with IRC? Explain. Why not make a

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son
Reiner Schug wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: > What is needed mostly are helping hands. No volunteers/devs no SeaMonkey in > the long term. You can only do so much with money if you don't have the time > to support paid people. Mozilla is completely nuts... now they will shutdown their

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-28 Thread Reiner Schug
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: > What is needed mostly are helping hands. No volunteers/devs no SeaMonkey in > the long term. You can only do so much with money if you don't have the time > to support paid people. Mozilla is completely nuts... now they will shutdown their IRC servers, because "In

Re: Staying alive

2019-04-26 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
What is needed mostly are helping hands. No volunteers/devs no SeaMonkey in the long term. You can only do so much with money if you don't have the time to support paid people. The plan is to discontinue 2.49 after 2.49.5. 2.49.5 is more or less at ESR 60.2. Further backporting is too costly

Re: Staying alive

2019-04-24 Thread Richmond
 Mr. Ed  wrote: > > I've been using 2.49.5 64 bit version from Bill since January.  Seems to > be fine and he has not done any updates since then. > Spending his time on 2.53 and 2.57  which I have not tried. I am concerned that there have been no security updates to comm-esr52 since feb or

Re: Staying alive

2019-04-24 Thread  Mr . Ed  via support-seamonkey
On 04/23/19 9:13 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 4/23/19 6:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Reiner Schug wrote on 23-04-19 22:09: Hi! Please, Seamonkey - stay alive. All other Browsers fucked up

Re: Staying alive

2019-04-23 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey
Ditto. :) On 4/23/2019 1:09 PM, Reiner Schug wrote: Hi! Please, Seamonkey - stay alive. All other Browsers fucked up their UI / Prefs / Privacy. It already smelled when Goodger forked Phoenix/Firebird... The UI fucked up... then he went to Google. Seamonkey is the only Browser I trust. Keep

Re: Staying alive

2019-04-23 Thread WaltS48
On 4/23/19 6:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Reiner Schug wrote on 23-04-19 22:09: Hi! Please, Seamonkey - stay alive. All other Browsers fucked up their UI / Prefs / Privacy. It already smelled when Goodger forked Phoenix/Firebird... The UI fucked up... then he went to Google. Seamonkey is the only

Re: Staying alive

2019-04-23 Thread GerardJan
Jim S wrote: On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:09:27 +0200, Reiner Schug wrote: Hi! Please, Seamonkey - stay alive. All other Browsers fucked up their UI / Prefs / Privacy. It already smelled when Goodger forked Phoenix/Firebird... The UI fucked up... then he went to Google. Seamonkey is the only

Re: Staying alive

2019-04-23 Thread Jim S
On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:09:27 +0200, Reiner Schug wrote: > Hi! > > Please, Seamonkey - stay alive. > > All other Browsers fucked up their UI / Prefs / Privacy. > > It already smelled when Goodger forked Phoenix/Firebird... > The UI fucked up... then he went to Google. > > Seamonkey is the only

Re: Staying alive

2019-04-23 Thread Reiner Schug
Ray_Net wrote: > > ... > > Why did you say that? SeaMonkey will die? The internet as we knew it is slowly dying. Seamonkey is the only survivor. ciao... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Staying alive

2019-04-23 Thread Ray_Net
Reiner Schug wrote on 23-04-19 22:09: Hi! Please, Seamonkey - stay alive. All other Browsers fucked up their UI / Prefs / Privacy. It already smelled when Goodger forked Phoenix/Firebird... The UI fucked up... then he went to Google. Seamonkey is the only Browser I trust. Keep up the good

Staying alive

2019-04-23 Thread Reiner Schug via support-seamonkey
Hi! Please, Seamonkey - stay alive. All other Browsers fucked up their UI / Prefs / Privacy. It already smelled when Goodger forked Phoenix/Firebird... The UI fucked up... then he went to Google. Seamonkey is the only Browser I trust. Keep up the good work. ciao...