Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2018-01-02 Thread Ray_Net 

WaltS48 wrote on 02-01-18 15:09:

On 1/2/18 8:06 AM, j.e.laba...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 9:34:39 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:

Seriously, have you tried finding extensions here?




Yes, and when I've done a search for extensions there, I'm finding 
most, when you go to the extension page, will then say they're for FF 
only, and want you to download FF.  It seems that if the extension at 
some time in the past had SM support, it will come up as compatible.  
No matter if it's from 5 years or so ago, and SM has changed since 
then (making the old extension incompatible), MZ can't or won't fix 
their search to make the results meaningful for the CURRENT versions 
of SM and the particular extensions.



Install this extension and try again.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/amo-browsing-for-seamonkey/ 



This is absolutely not normal that we need to install en extension to be 
able to find other extensions :-(

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2018-01-02 Thread Rubens via support-seamonkey 

j.e.laba...@gmail.com wrote on 02/01/2018 14:06:

On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 9:34:39 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:


Seriously, have you tried finding extensions here?





Yes, and when I've done a search for extensions there, I'm finding most, when 
you go to the extension page, will then say they're for FF only, and want you 
to download FF.  It seems that if the extension at some time in the past had SM 
support, it will come up as compatible.  No matter if it's from 5 years or so 
ago, and SM has changed since then (making the old extension incompatible), MZ 
can't or won't fix their search to make the results meaningful for the CURRENT 
versions of SM and the particular extensions.



I understand the problem described by the OP.

A few days ago I fell into the same situation, and had to resort  to an 
archived/cached URL to reach the original Web page from when the extension was 
still available for Seamonkey.

One resource that works for *some* FF extensions is the extension converter 
tool here:  http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2018-01-02 Thread WaltS48 

On 1/2/18 8:06 AM, j.e.laba...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 9:34:39 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:

Seriously, have you tried finding extensions here?




Yes, and when I've done a search for extensions there, I'm finding most, when 
you go to the extension page, will then say they're for FF only, and want you 
to download FF.  It seems that if the extension at some time in the past had SM 
support, it will come up as compatible.  No matter if it's from 5 years or so 
ago, and SM has changed since then (making the old extension incompatible), MZ 
can't or won't fix their search to make the results meaningful for the CURRENT 
versions of SM and the particular extensions.



Install this extension and try again.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/amo-browsing-for-seamonkey/

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2018-01-02 Thread j . e . labarre 
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 9:34:39 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:
> 
> Seriously, have you tried finding extensions here?
> 
> 


Yes, and when I've done a search for extensions there, I'm finding most, when 
you go to the extension page, will then say they're for FF only, and want you 
to download FF.  It seems that if the extension at some time in the past had SM 
support, it will come up as compatible.  No matter if it's from 5 years or so 
ago, and SM has changed since then (making the old extension incompatible), MZ 
can't or won't fix their search to make the results meaningful for the CURRENT 
versions of SM and the particular extensions.
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-31 Thread WaltS48 

j.e.laba...@gmail.com wrote:

Seriously, I suspect SM is dead because too many of the extensions are going to 
become *unusable*.  Trying to troubleshoot my brother's systems, and every 
extension I've tried with it have either not loaded at all, or report the 
downloads as corrupt.  I have tried downloading the .xpi files on other 
machines and moving them over, but they still report as corrupt.

On top of that, the Mozilla site will find various extensions in a search for SM extensions, but when you go to the extension page, it will say it's only for Firefox. 



Seriously, have you tried finding extensions here?


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-31 Thread j . e . labarre 
Seriously, I suspect SM is dead because too many of the extensions are going to 
become *unusable*.  Trying to troubleshoot my brother's systems, and every 
extension I've tried with it have either not loaded at all, or report the 
downloads as corrupt.  I have tried downloading the .xpi files on other 
machines and moving them over, but they still report as corrupt.

On top of that, the Mozilla site will find various extensions in a search for 
SM extensions, but when you go to the extension page, it will say it's only for 
Firefox.  So as of now the Mozilla extension site is outright BROKEN, and 
unless this project can find a different hosting site, or can manage to get the 
Mozilla folks to remove their heads from their derrieres, SM will become dead 
simply because nothing will work with it anymore.

Really don't want to have to move him over to FF, because with the severe UI 
breakage, re-engineering, etc they've done with it, I know he would be cursing 
up a torrent of complaints about it from the moment he starts it up.  
Thunderbird not so much, although I expect he will find something to dislike 
there as well (and TB is likely to suffer the same fate as SM from where it 
stands right now).
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-27 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey 

Mon, 18 Dec 2017 22:44:57 -0600, _Paul in Houston, TX_:


You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128; 
rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0


I'm accessing Yahoo! Mail mostly via SeaMonkey Mail (IMAP), but for 
seamless web access I've set:


general.useragent.override.mail.yahoo.com
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0

That is I'm using the override just for the mail.yahoo.com site, and I'm 
not really advertising higher Firefox version (than 52 ESR), at present.


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-26 Thread Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez 
El 19/12/17 a las 05:44, Paul in Houston, TX escribió:
> Mozilla User wrote:
>> I'm not a troll..
> 
> Please turn off the Avast.
> My Youtube and Yahoo webmail work ok.
> I did need to up the User agent override numbers though.
> 
> You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
> Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
> general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128;
> x128; rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0


Being a Yahoo! user that hardly ever access to the webmail UI, I can
confirm that:

1) Yahoo! Mail does not work with SeaMonkey "out-of-the-box", nor
checking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" with Advanced preferences.

2) Manually adding, through about:config, right-click > Add new >
string value and the preference Paul mentions, makes Yahoo! Mail works
(although I find it very sluggish).

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-22 Thread EE 

Desiree wrote:

On 12/19/2017 8:39 AM, EE wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; 
x128; rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0



User Agent Switcher still works.  If you open the .xpi file, extract
install.rdf and increase the max version number for SeaMonkey, save the
file, put it back into the archive, save the archive and install it, the
extension will install and it will work.
You can download the installer with any browser.  Just right-click the
green button and choose save.

So, it stops working without this fix in 2.49?  It works fine as is in 
2.48.


That depends on what the max version was.  It will be considered 
"incompatible" if the max version is less than the current version of 
SeaMonkey.  In fact, I took to increasing the max version in all themes 
and extensions that I use with SeaMonkey to avoid the hassle of them 
being called incompatible the next time I update SeaMonkey.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-22 Thread Ed Mullen 

On 12/22/2017 at 6:06 AM, Desiree created this epitome of digital genius:

On 12/19/2017 8:39 AM, EE wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; 
x128; rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0



User Agent Switcher still works.  If you open the .xpi file, extract
install.rdf and increase the max version number for SeaMonkey, save the
file, put it back into the archive, save the archive and install it, the
extension will install and it will work.
You can download the installer with any browser.  Just right-click the
green button and choose save.

So, it stops working without this fix in 2.49?  It works fine as is in 
2.48.


Working fine here in v2.49.1

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Desiree wrote:

User Agent Switcher works fine on SeaMonkey 2.48.  i can't update to 
2.49 internally so I just haven't done it.  What version do you have 
that User Agent Switcher won't work on?


The OP's message contains the following in its source code:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

You can see this by doing CTRL-U or View | Message Source.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-22 Thread Desiree 

On 12/19/2017 8:39 AM, EE wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128; 
rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0



User Agent Switcher still works.  If you open the .xpi file, extract
install.rdf and increase the max version number for SeaMonkey, save the
file, put it back into the archive, save the archive and install it, the
extension will install and it will work.
You can download the installer with any browser.  Just right-click the
green button and choose save.


So, it stops working without this fix in 2.49?  It works fine as is in 2.48.
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-22 Thread Desiree 

On 12/18/2017 2:39 PM, Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.

I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.

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User Agent Switcher works fine on SeaMonkey 2.48.  i can't update to 
2.49 internally so I just haven't done it.  What version do you have 
that User Agent Switcher won't work on?

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-21 Thread Pat Connors 

Ant via support-seamonkey wrote:
I use YouTube regularly with SeaMonkey 2.49.1 and have seen no 
problems at all.  Yes, I advertise Firefox.


Ditto. 


I, too, have no problems on YouTube with 2.51


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-20 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 12/20/2017 4:36 PM, meagain wrote:

On 12/19/2017 12:05 AM, Mozilla User wrote:

I just checked, Advertise Firefox compatibility is already checked.

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I use YouTube regularly with SeaMonkey 2.49.1 and have seen no problems 
at all.  Yes, I advertise Firefox.


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-20 Thread meagain 

On 12/19/2017 12:05 AM, Mozilla User wrote:

I just checked, Advertise Firefox compatibility is already checked.

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I use YouTube regularly with SeaMonkey 2.49.1 and have seen no problems 
at all.  Yes, I advertise Firefox.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread rjkrjk 

a rather strong statement
not dead for me, very much alive and working very well.

it just may be YOUR setup that is not working
try safe mode

a question is much better than your statement



Mozilla User wrote on 12/18/17 7:39 PM:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old Version 
of YT. Once
they force the switch on you, I won't be able to load YT without it freezing 
and locking up
when using scripts.

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer version 
of their
mail system. I tried to download and install the extension User Agent Switcher, 
and guess
what? SeaMonkey is not compatible with the current version of that.. no 
surprise.

I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser did.. 
and that sucks,
because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most of my history on the internet.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread EE 

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128; 
rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0


User Agent Switcher still works.  If you open the .xpi file, extract 
install.rdf and increase the max version number for SeaMonkey, save the 
file, put it back into the archive, save the archive and install it, the 
extension will install and it will work.
You can download the installer with any browser.  Just right-click the 
green button and choose save.


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread EE 

Felix Miata wrote:

Mozilla User composed on 2017-12-18 23:00 (UTC-0500):


I've got to switch to a new browser


No one is forced to use a single browser. SM remains my primary, having taken
over from Mozilla Suite, which in turn took over from Netscape 4, and prior, on
my primary PC, but on it I have two different constantly used SM profiles, using
different SM versions, several Firefox profiles, 3 in constant use, each using a
different FF version, Konqueror, and very rarely used, Chromium & Qupzilla.

SeaMonkey is my default browser still, but I found Pale Moon to be great 
as well.


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread NFN Smith 

Mozilla User wrote:


YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.



I'm running 2.49.1, and not having any problems with either one -- and I 
make extensive use of both NoScript and AdBlock plus.


When you have issues of this nature, the problem is rarely Seamonkey 
itself, but problems accumulated in your user profile.  The same 
principle applies to both Firefox and Thunderbird.


Over time, entropy can set into a profile, especially if you do much in 
the way of extensions.


See what happens when you try Seamonkey in safe mode (Help -> Restart 
with add-ons disabled). Besides temporarily extensions, it will also 
temporarily reset most of your preferences to default.  In my own 
experience, I've found that even a one-time start of Seamonkey in safe 
mode can occasionally be sufficient to clear problems.


If you have more than a couple of extensions, you might try 
uninstall/reinstall on each.


You may also want to see what you can do with a fresh profile, where 
you're really starting over from scratch.  If you use Seamonkey for 
mail, that takes a little more effort of copying your data over to a new 
profile, but if your profile is really old, it may be worth the effort.


On my own setup, I keep a spare profile that is almost entirely default 
configuration settings.  On occasions that I have troubles getting to a 
particular site (and I do have that happen some, with my use of blocking 
tools), it's easy enough to launch the alternate profile.  Although 
there's a handful of sites that demand a Firefox User Agent string, the 
default one that Seamonkey shows is usually sufficient, and I find it 
very rare that I need to resort to spoofing (in my case, PrefBar), and 
rarer still that a site will not work, if I'm spoofing.


However, making even temporary use of a near-pristine profile is enough 
to be pretty conclusive that problems aren't generic to "Seamonkey", but 
virtually always problems with the individual profile.


Smith

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

> But dead? Not quite yet.

No in zombie state and just keeps going :)

> I don't think there's been motivation to catch up since things have fallen 
so far behind and I imagine it's very difficult to garner the will to want to 
catch up.


Well for every breakage fixed in the new builds you get 2 new because of other 
"improvements" or removals of a few lines of code from core because they are 
no longer used in Fx and are such a huuugggee burden on the codebase... The 
motivation to keep up is maybe not so great anymore but SeaMonkey is still 
building. I am loonking forward to the ESR 60 release so that we can finally 
see what needs to be fixed.


We try but not enigh devs. But it has been declared dead for years and is 
still running fine :)


FRG



TCW wrote:

On 12/18/2017 6:39 PM, Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to load YT 
without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the extension 
User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not compatible with the 
current version of that.. no surprise.


I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser did.. 
and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most of my 
history on the internet.


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I'm using a build from Frank-Rainer of x64 2.53 and it works well with *some* 
stuff still needing to be fixed. But it's stable for daily use. Youtube works. 
Certainly I agree that Seamonkey is not maintained like it used to be but it's 
because of the build system. But dead? Not quite yet. I don't think there's 
been motivation to catch up since things have fallen so far behind and I 
imagine it's very difficult to garner the will to want to catch up.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread Ed Mullen 
On 12/18/2017 at 7:39 PM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


SM 2.49.1 on Win 10 Pro.  User Agent Switcher installed and working just 
fine.


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread TCW 

On 12/18/2017 6:39 PM, Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser 
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most 
of my history on the internet.


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I'm using a build from Frank-Rainer of x64 2.53 and it works well with 
*some* stuff still needing to be fixed. But it's stable for daily use. 
Youtube works. Certainly I agree that Seamonkey is not maintained like 
it used to be but it's because of the build system. But dead? Not quite 
yet. I don't think there's been motivation to catch up since things have 
fallen so far behind and I imagine it's very difficult to garner the 
will to want to catch up.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread BERTRAND Joel 

Mozilla User a écrit :

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


	I don't understand. I use Seamonkey 2.49.1 (on Linux and Free/NetBSD) 
and I don't see any trouble with YT (I have to add that last firefox has 
a lot of problems with the same version of YT).


Best regards,

JKB
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread Mozilla User 

I just checked, Advertise Firefox compatibility is already checked.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread Mozilla User 

Paul B. Gallagher escribió:

Mozilla User wrote:

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the 
newer version of their mail system. I tried to download and install 
the extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


Actually, Yahoo Mail works fine for me on SM 2.49.1 and Win7 Pro SP1 (64 
bit). I don't get the stupid upgrade prompt you posted in your other 
(deleted) message in this thread. Have you tried Edit | Preferences | 
Advanced | HTTP Networking:

 User Agent String
 [x] Advertise Firefox compatibility?


I haven't tried that.. why was the post deleted?

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread Paul in Houston, TX 

Mozilla User wrote:

I'm not a troll..


Please turn off the Avast.
My Youtube and Yahoo webmail work ok.
I did need to up the User agent override numbers though.

You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128; rv:57.0) 
Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0



I had to go to https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1  just to load
YouTube until I found out on another forum I could revert back to the previous 
version of
YouTube.

Loading up Yahoo Mail brings me to this page included in the attachment, and 
clicking on
Try It Later, just reloads the page instead of taking me to my inbox.

Like I mentioned, I wanted to load up User Agent Switcher to trick the websites 
into
thinking I was using Chrome or something else, but of course that is no longer 
supported
by SeaMonkey 2.49.1, so I'm stuck. I've got to switch to a new browser I 
suppose because
everything I use with this browser are slowly becoming unsupported.

If it's working for you, then I don't know what you are doing different. I am 
using
SeaMonkey 2.49.1, Windows 10 64bit.




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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Mozilla User wrote:

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


Actually, Yahoo Mail works fine for me on SM 2.49.1 and Win7 Pro SP1 (64 
bit). I don't get the stupid upgrade prompt you posted in your other 
(deleted) message in this thread. Have you tried Edit | Preferences | 
Advanced | HTTP Networking:

User Agent String
[x] Advertise Firefox compatibility?

But as I said upthread, I hardly ever use webmails. I had to make a 
special exception for you.


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread Felix Miata 
Mozilla User composed on 2017-12-18 23:00 (UTC-0500):

> I've got to switch to a new browser  

No one is forced to use a single browser. SM remains my primary, having taken
over from Mozilla Suite, which in turn took over from Netscape 4, and prior, on
my primary PC, but on it I have two different constantly used SM profiles, using
different SM versions, several Firefox profiles, 3 in constant use, each using a
different FF version, Konqueror, and very rarely used, Chromium & Qupzilla.
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread Mozilla User 
I'm not a troll.. I had to go to 
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1  just to load YouTube until I 
found out on another forum I could revert back to the previous version 
of YouTube.


Loading up Yahoo Mail brings me to this page included in the attachment, 
and clicking on Try It Later, just reloads the page instead of taking me 
to my inbox.


Like I mentioned, I wanted to load up User Agent Switcher to trick the 
websites into thinking I was using Chrome or something else, but of 
course that is no longer supported by SeaMonkey 2.49.1, so I'm stuck. 
I've got to switch to a new browser I suppose because everything I use 
with this browser are slowly becoming unsupported.


If it's working for you, then I don't know what you are doing different. 
I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.1, Windows 10 64bit.



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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread Paul Bergsagel 

Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.

I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.

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I am not experiencing any of the problems or issues you describe. 
SeaMonkey works perfectly for me.


Possibly you may need to check the way your computer or SeaMonkey is 
configured.


If SeaMonkey operated in the manner you describe the SeaMonkey forum 
would have many more posts than yours wondering why SeaMonkey was not 
operating correctly.


It may also be that I have a much different experience than you do since 
I am using the MacOS.


YouTube works perfectly with SeaMonkey. Nine times out of ten the only 
time SeaMonkey fails to function as expected is when a web page is badly 
written by not following the standard rules for designing web pages.


A final thought: maybe you are a troll. I hope not.
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread WaltS48 

Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


What doesn't work on YouTube?

My SeaMonkey supports all items on this page, and I have no problems 
with YT.





And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.




With all Yahoo users data being hacked in the past I wouldn't use it at 
all. I closed my Yahoo account when they announced they wouldn't support 
users Do Not Track browser setting.


I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser 
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most 
of my history on the internet.


I know the Firefox browser has millions more users than SeaMonkey. I 
think the latest figure for SM users I heard mentioned was 75,000.





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^ Hey, that antivirus software you are not being paid to advertise might 
be your problem. Have you tried disabling it on YT?


BTW You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Mozilla User wrote:


I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


Sorry you're having trouble, but I haven't noticed it at all. YouTube 
performs just as well for me as it always has. I haven't tweaked it or 
made any special accommodations. It just runs. The same goes for my 
other video sources, the main exceptions being nhl.com and mlb.com, 
which seem purposely designed to be incompatible with AdBlock Plus. ;-) 
But even mlb.com is marginally tolerable if I disable ABP and mute the 
ads. I do so hate that damn gecko!


I haven't tried uninstalling Flash, Shockwave, and VLC player, so maybe 
that matters.


And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


Here, too, I don't share your experience. Of course I've always hated 
webmails, so if there's a problem outside of POP3/IMAP/SMTP I wouldn't 
know about it. Two or three times a year I go into Gmail for a few 
minutes to tweak a setting or double-check the spam folder, but that's 
pretty much it; the rest of the time I send/receive Gmail through 
SMTP/POP3 like the rest of my accounts.


I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser 
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most 
of my history on the internet.


I really wish people wouldn't extrapolate from their own individual 
experience to the thousands of users out there in cyberspace. A sample 
size of one is nearly meaningless in global terms even if it is the most 
important one to you.


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread Paul in Houston, TX 

Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old Version 
of YT. Once
they force the switch on you, I won't be able to load YT without it freezing 
and locking
up when using scripts.

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer version 
of their
mail system. I tried to download and install the extension User Agent Switcher, 
and guess
what? SeaMonkey is not compatible with the current version of that.. no 
surprise.

I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser did.. 
and that
sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most of my history on the 
internet.

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Mine works perfectly.
There is no need to check outgoing mail and newgroup posts for viruses with 
Avast.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-18 Thread Luis Carlos González Moráles 
I know. What I know is that I liked SeaMonkey better than firefox and
thunderbird. The problem is that for a blind user I don't know if that
project will be ded or instantly revive in an other project, just thinking.

Mozilla User wrote:
> I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
>
> YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
> Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
> load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
>
> And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the
> newer version of their mail system. I tried to download and install
> the extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
> compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
>
> I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
> did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
> of my history on the internet.
>
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