Re: Suite over components

[Jens Hatlak]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Lester Caine wrote:

I'm still hitting  to 'mark all read' in Linux and then
thinking 'shit' and using the mouse :(


Hmm, that works here in my Linux SeaMonkey 2 Alpha testing version...


Yes but it was only fixed a couple of months ago through bug 422757. ;-)

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Re: Suite over components

[John Doue]

Robert Kaiser wrote:
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(By the way, we now recently even did get an "Undo Mark All Read" 
menuitem so one can reverse this if doing it accidentally.)


Robert Kaiser


That is a very nice touch!
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Re: Suite over components

[Robert Kaiser]

Lester Caine wrote:

Right click on link - open in new tab - where the links are in emails or
calendar posts. After a number of years using it one sort of gets used
to it, so when it does not work one get frustrated. Firefox has
deliberately turned its back on this sort of interoperability and that
is/was my main reason for staying with Seamonkey. THAT is a gap that I'd
prefer to retain!


That's no gap, that's functionality, and we would be quite dumb to 
remove that ;-)


We still have no integrated calendar (yet), but we are working on 
getting everything in place so that the Lightning calendar extension can 
work in future SeaMonkey versions.



I'm still hitting  to 'mark all read' in Linux and then
thinking 'shit' and using the mouse :(


Hmm, that works here in my Linux SeaMonkey 2 Alpha testing version...
(By the way, we now recently even did get an "Undo Mark All Read" 
menuitem so one can reverse this if doing it accidentally.)


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Suite over components

[Lester Caine]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Lester Caine wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

The gap between Firefox and SeaMonkey is becoming a lot smaller with
SeaMonkey 2, by the way. Have you tried the recent Alpha?


I hope not ;)
Firefox does not have any of the email stuff that was my whole reason
for staying with Seamonkey. I have no problem with the browser!


What does one have to fo with the other?

?do
Right click on link - open in new tab - where the links are in emails or 
calendar posts. After a number of years using it one sort of gets used 
to it, so when it does not work one get frustrated. Firefox has 
deliberately turned its back on this sort of interoperability and that 
is/was my main reason for staying with Seamonkey. THAT is a gap that I'd 
prefer to retain!


I'm still hitting  to 'mark all read' in Linux and then 
thinking 'shit' and using the mouse :( It's the little changes that 
cause the most aggravation. The 'new improved' methods of doing things 
take a long time to become natural - and when even they change before 
you get used to them .


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Re: Suite over components

[Robert Kaiser]

Lester Caine wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

The gap between Firefox and SeaMonkey is becoming a lot smaller with
SeaMonkey 2, by the way. Have you tried the recent Alpha?


I hope not ;)
Firefox does not have any of the email stuff that was my whole reason
for staying with Seamonkey. I have no problem with the browser!


What does one have to fo with the other?

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Re: Suite over components

[Lester Caine]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

The Seamonkey development can't address the gaps left by the original
breakup, and the drift to Firefox being totally isolated seems to be
increasing? So are we reaching a point where a radical overhaul of the
roadmap is inevitable?


Which roadmap?

The gap between Firefox and SeaMonkey is becoming a lot smaller with 
SeaMonkey 2, by the way. Have you tried the recent Alpha?


I hope not ;)
Firefox does not have any of the email stuff that was my whole reason 
for staying with Seamonkey. I have no problem with the browser!


Still, I can't really answer your questions as what you are talking 
about looks very unclear to me.


I think the problem is that facilities that I had in Mozilla a number of 
years ago are simply missing nowadays. I had a perfectly usable calendar 
system and could hot key address data. THAT is something I'm looking to 
restore but at present it looks like simply replacing Seamonkey with KDE 
or other tools is a much more practical option.


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Re: Suite over components

[Robert Kaiser]

Lester Caine wrote:

Seamonkey works fine apart from a few quirks on hot keys which have been
covered already, but increasingly I'm finding that the reasons for USING
Seamonkey are being eroded. On windows things do not integrate together
nicely, the Calendar and Address Book are still separated from one
another and hot keying between links in messages and notes is lacking.


Not sure what you mean with notes, and we don't include a calendar at 
all yet, so I don't know what you are talking about.



While KDE gives me a nice 'flat
playing field' when it comes to integration. ( Although KDE4 is about as
user friendly as Vista! :( )


Then use it. And KDE 4.2 is becoming really usable, by the way - I for 
myself might finally switch from 3.5 once 4.2 is stable.



I think I can understand why the drive to split up Mozilla came about
since many developers do seem to be working on Linux rather than
Windows, and the same applies across many projects.


Wrong, most of the Mozilla developers are on Windows and Mac, only few 
are on Linux.



The Seamonkey development can't address the gaps left by the original
breakup, and the drift to Firefox being totally isolated seems to be
increasing? So are we reaching a point where a radical overhaul of the
roadmap is inevitable?


Which roadmap?

The gap between Firefox and SeaMonkey is becoming a lot smaller with 
SeaMonkey 2, by the way. Have you tried the recent Alpha?


Still, I can't really answer your questions as what you are talking 
about looks very unclear to me.


Robert Kaiser
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